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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TheFarEastMovement on March 28, 2014, 10:08:22 AM

Poll
Question: Which candidate would you like to see at MU as a coach?
Option 1: Dwayne Stephens (MSU Assistant) votes: 16
Option 2: Lavall Jordan (Michigan Assistant) votes: 4
Option 3: Tony Bennett votes: 26
Option 4: Scott Drew votes: 3
Option 5: Archie Miller votes: 9
Option 6: Cuonzo Martin votes: 9
Title: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: TheFarEastMovement on March 28, 2014, 10:08:22 AM
Which candidate would you like to see at MU as a coach?
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Rockmic87 on March 28, 2014, 10:09:31 AM
Another redundant thread...
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: LAZER on March 28, 2014, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: Rockmic87 on March 28, 2014, 10:09:31 AM
Another redundant thread...

But there's a poll!
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Warrior_2002 on March 28, 2014, 10:10:39 AM
The one I would "like to see" won't happen.  TB.  Wanted him last time.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Aughnanure on March 28, 2014, 10:10:58 AM
The one that is going to win this poll is the one we won't be able to get.

So I'm going with Martin.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Warrior_2002 on March 28, 2014, 10:12:30 AM
Of the realistic candidates listed I'll take Cuonzo. But that won't make me happy.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 28, 2014, 10:18:31 AM
I do admit LaVall Jordan is intriguing. Just not sure, but the guy has worked for both Bielein and Brad Stevens. That's pretty good company to keep.

Given that nobody but Howland excites me,might be worth a thought.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 10:18:41 AM
Tony needs to be taken off. Hes not a realistic candidate
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: TheFarEastMovement on March 28, 2014, 10:21:28 AM
My first choice would be Archie Miller. If not, I would rather go with Dwayne Stephens. He is a former MU assistant, he recruits pretty well for MSU and he is from the Tom Izzo coaching tree. Tony Bennett being coach at MU is like watching Bo Ryan coaching at MU (it will be boring to watch).
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Rockmic87 on March 28, 2014, 10:22:55 AM
I'd say we consider Terry Porter.  It's a wild card, but I think a risk worth taking if our best option is hiring a current Assistant.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Porter
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 28, 2014, 10:24:32 AM
Quote from: Rockmic87 on March 28, 2014, 10:22:55 AM
I'd say we consider Terry Porter.  It's a wild card, but I think a risk worth taking if our best option is hiring a current Assistant.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Porter

No college experience or recruiting connections.  Would be a total rebuild.

No thanks.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 28, 2014, 10:25:16 AM
Anybody but Bennett. Hes good but he hasnt been anything spectacular except for this year. Plus I think I would fall asleep during games.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Daniel on March 28, 2014, 10:27:20 AM
Why do we think any still playing would come to MU?  We could not have gauged their interest by directly speaking with any still coaching in the Tourney.  Maybe agents talking to us?  I have no idea but this seems like a longer shot than Shaka.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Rockmic87 on March 28, 2014, 10:33:17 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 28, 2014, 10:24:32 AM
No college experience or recruiting connections.  Would be a total rebuild.

No thanks.

Terry Porter has NBA coaching experience. Could surround himself with an elite staff.  Has his own AAU program (Terry Porter Elite), which Burton was apart of.

Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: TheFarEastMovement on March 28, 2014, 10:40:28 AM
Quote from: Daniel on March 28, 2014, 10:27:20 AM
Why do we think any still playing would come to MU?  We could not have gauged their interest by directly speaking with any still coaching in the Tourney.  Maybe agents talking to us?  I have no idea but this seems like a longer shot than Shaka.


Dwayne Stephens and Lavall Jordan are assistants. I am sure a head coaching job at MU would be quite intriguing to them. Marquette is definitely a step up from Dayton, which could possibly lead to Archie Miller joining us. Cuonzo Martin was on the hot seat until he made the S16, which could prompt him to leave Tennessee as well. I agree Scott Drew and Tony Bennett coming to MU might be a long shot.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 28, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
Look at it this way:

Johnny Dawkins - no longer playing
Either Cuonzo Martin or LaVall Jordan will be out by 9PM tonight.
Ben Howland is available.
Bruce Weber is currently available.
Archie Miller more than likely will be out by tomorrow night.

What's the point? By Monday morning we should be able to figure out who their guy is. If Howland or Bruce Weber or one of the guys who comes available by their team being eliminated doesn't emerge almost immediately after,  will be pretty safe to assume that the guy still playing is who it's going to be...or at least who they want it to be.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 11:03:51 AM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 28, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
Look at it this way:

Johnny Dawkins - no longer playing
Either Cuonzo Martin or LaVall Jordan will be out by 9PM tonight.
Ben Howland is available.
Bruce Weber is currently available.
Archie Miller more than likely will be out by tomorrow night.

What's the point? By Monday morning we should be able to figure out who their guy is. If Howland or Bruce Weber or one of the guys who comes available by their team being eliminated doesn't emerge almost immediately after,  will be pretty safe to assume that the guy still playing is who it's going to be...or at least who they want it to be.

Archie already said no to us
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 28, 2014, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 11:03:51 AM
Archie already said no to us

Fine if its true, I don't think he was a very likely candidate anyway, but when did he do that?
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: TheFarEastMovement on March 28, 2014, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 11:03:51 AM
Archie already said no to us

I am not sure if Archie said no to us but I believe he signed an extension with Dayton. In today's world of college ball, that does not mean anything. Steve Alford did the same thing last year with New Mexico but he ended up at UCLA.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: brandx on March 28, 2014, 11:11:53 AM
Stephens and Martin both have relationships with Stone. That's a plus in their favor.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 11:13:01 AM
Quote from: TheFarEastMovement on March 28, 2014, 11:08:38 AM
I am not sure if Archie said no to us but I believe he signed an extension with Dayton. In today's world of college ball, that does not mean anything. Steve Alford did the same thing last year with New Mexico but he ended up at UCLA.

@SIPeteThamel Archie is a rising star. The guy didn't even listen to Marquette, either.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 11:13:31 AM
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on March 28, 2014, 10:25:16 AM
Anybody but Bennett. Hes good but he hasnt been anything spectacular except for this year. Plus I think I would fall asleep during games.

As opposed to Buzz's thrill-a-minute offense?
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 11:14:07 AM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 28, 2014, 11:08:06 AM
Fine if its true, I don't think he was a very likely candidate anyway, but when did he do that?

Not sure but goodman mentioned it yesterday
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 28, 2014, 11:15:02 AM
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 11:13:31 AM
As opposed to Buzz's thrill-a-minute offense?

Wasnt a fan of this years offense but in years prior, especially in 2012 you had the patented, run own the court with Jae trailing for a 3. That was a lot of fun.  
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Aughnanure on March 28, 2014, 11:17:33 AM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 11:13:01 AM
@SIPeteThamel Archie is a rising star. The guy didn't even listen to Marquette, either.

That tweet does not exist.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 11:19:01 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 28, 2014, 11:17:33 AM
That tweet does not exist.
If you follow goodman u will see it on his timeline
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Aughnanure on March 28, 2014, 11:21:42 AM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 11:19:01 AM
If you follow goodman u will see it on his timeline


Oh, you made it seem like it was coming from Thamel. Atrribute tweets correctly!


I hate Goodman. Earlier he was saying Archie is 24 seconds away from becoming head coach at Marquette.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 11:24:32 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 28, 2014, 11:21:42 AM
Oh, you made it seem like it was coming from Thamel. Atrribute tweets correctly!


I hate Goodman. Earlier he was saying Archie is 24 seconds away from becoming head coach at Marquette.

Sorry, man
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: LAZER on March 28, 2014, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 28, 2014, 11:21:42 AM
Oh, you made it seem like it was coming from Thamel. Atrribute tweets correctly!


I hate Goodman. Earlier he was saying Archie is 24 seconds away from becoming head coach at Marquette.

I think Goodman meant this as almost a compliment to Marquette, like "i can't believe he wouldn't even talk to them"
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Aughnanure on March 28, 2014, 11:25:19 AM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 11:24:32 AM
Sorry, man

/not that serious.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 11:25:57 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 28, 2014, 11:25:19 AM
/not that serious.

I know right
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: AshyLarry on March 28, 2014, 11:32:18 AM
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on March 28, 2014, 11:15:02 AM
Wasnt a fan of this years offense but in years prior, especially in 2012 you had the patented, run own the court with Jae trailing for a 3. That was a lot of fun. 

I miss our speed.  Prior to this year we would inbound from an opponents made shot and tear @$$ down the court in about 3 seconds for a quick fast break bucket.  Clearly, we were missing that this year.  Obviously our PG situation made that an issue. 
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 28, 2014, 11:34:04 AM
Quote from: AshyLarry on March 28, 2014, 11:32:18 AM
I miss our speed.  Prior to this year we would inbound from an opponents made shot and tear @$$ down the court in about 3 seconds for a quick fast break bucket.  Clearly, we were missing that this year.  Obviously our PG situation made that an issue. 

Not next year! I am convinced, that no matter who the new coach is we will be seeing a heave dose of Duane and Dawson. Has a nice ring to it as well.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: AshyLarry on March 28, 2014, 11:38:40 AM
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on March 28, 2014, 11:34:04 AM
Not next year! I am convinced, that no matter who the new coach is we will be seeing a heave dose of Duane and Dawson. Has a nice ring to it as well.

I have no doubt that Duane will bring that element back to our attack.  Dawson would help that as well.  Both guys have speed.  I just remember how often that worked and frustrated to watch that strategy totally sidelined this year for no reason at all.  No disrespect to DWil, he was put in a position by his coach to fail.  But I am really looking forward to the next wave of MU talent and forgetting this past year even happened. 
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Earl Tatum on March 28, 2014, 11:39:11 AM
Like Josh Pastner or Ben Howland.  Stephens and Jordan are Assistants and are young enough to use
MU as a "Stepping Stone" in a few years. Martin is fine. Tony Bennett would be super. But Pastner and Howland can recruit.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: Earl Tatum on March 28, 2014, 11:46:05 AM
IT'S NOW OR NEVER be an elite.
Title: Re: Possible coaching candidates that are in the tournament
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 28, 2014, 12:19:44 PM
After completely rushed and haphazard consideration, I have settled on the following as my personal choices in order (of seemingly viable candidates still in play)

1. Ben Howland - has been and remains my number one choice by a wide margin.




2. LaVall Jordan - seems to have a career trajectory similar to that of Crean and Buzz, though doesn't appear to be anywhere near as big of a dick or nut job. I love the guys he has worked with/for in Beilein, Stevens, and even Lichliter...they don't come much smarter. Michigan has recruited extremely well and been extremely good while he's been there. Young. Could inject some energy back into the program.

3. Johnny Dawkins - some success, very good lineage. Don't know that he gets MU much beyond good though.

4. Cuonzo Martin - see Dawkins, Johnny.

5. Bruce Weber - fine...they'll be ok, but really underwhelming.

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