Everyone has an opinion and a guy they want as coach and I appreciate that. That said, in what appears to be a cluster fxxk please tell me who anyone wanted that has signed elsewhere.
We have best job open and no one is going anywhere until MU makes a decision. We can chase Shaka or whomever and until we lose someone else why all the anger?
Or at least until Izzo goes to the NBA.
im just chilling on this next target, a lot less F5
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Quote from: melissasmooth on March 27, 2014, 08:58:29 PM
im just chilling on this next target, a lot less F5
And more Jack Daniels, hey?
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Chico's
Not great stamina, just common sense. Seriously, who on our list has signed elsewhere. We are in drivers seat. When I was young I was taught great lesson, when in drivers seat...drive.
Think MU is driving the bus and good will happen.
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Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:05:14 PM
Chico's
Not great stamina, just common sense. Seriously, who on our list has signed elsewhere. We are in drivers seat. When I was young I was taught great lesson, when in drivers seat...drive.
Think MU is driving the bus and good will happen.
I do too. Thanks for the rationality here Goose. The board has needed at least a pinch of it!
What does it mean when a thread is moved behind the bar?
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 08:56:15 PM
Everyone has an opinion and a guy they want as coach and I appreciate that. That said, in what appears to be a cluster fxxk please tell me who anyone wanted that has signed elsewhere.
We have best job open and no one is going anywhere until MU makes a decision. We can chase Shaka or whomever and until we lose someone else why all the anger?
Thank you Goose. My thought as well. Appreciate you and Freeport Warrior, Richard Shaw, etc.
One quick question. Since the Cuonzo Martin rumors kind of came out of nowhere, do you think that has to do with the fact that he has recruited Diamond Stone and has a relationship with him?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 27, 2014, 09:02:43 PM
And more Jack Daniels, hey?
Got some of that stuff to share, 4ever?
Quote from: csmithjump on March 27, 2014, 09:07:15 PM
What does it mean when a thread is moved behind the bar?
The link to that thread is dead. Mods?
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:05:14 PM
Chico's
Not great stamina, just common sense. Seriously, who on our list has signed elsewhere. We are in drivers seat. When I was young I was taught great lesson, when in drivers seat...drive.
Think MU is driving the bus and good will happen.
I don't know who is on our list. ;D
I guess I find it odd that Bullseye is going so wild right now if he thought it was still going to happen. The other part of the equation is that it doesn't really matter if someone on our list hasn't signed with anyone else. Most guys aren't going to leave at all....they're going to stay put. If they stay put, that's no different if they chose BC, Wake Forest or somewhere else....still not here.
I agree we are the best job open, just not sure that equates to landing anyone no our "list"...or the A part of the list. Guess we find out, should be fun.
Quote from: csmithjump on March 27, 2014, 09:07:15 PM
What does it mean when a thread is moved behind the bar?
Not fit for human consumption.
Quote from: csmithjump on March 27, 2014, 09:07:15 PM
What does it mean when a thread is moved behind the bar?
It is dead and locked. That was due to the political and racism comments made. Along with insults.
Very true, just worried Howland will sign with someone else like Wake Forest.
Quote from: nyg on March 27, 2014, 09:09:16 PM
It is dead and locked. That was due to the political and racism comments made. Along with insults.
too bad a third of that thread was insightful
Since the other thread got killed, this was my reaction to Goose saying Shaka is still in play...
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Quote from: csmithjump on March 27, 2014, 09:07:15 PM
What does it mean when a thread is moved behind the bar?
Keep lookin' for the "Behind the bar tab" on your keyboard.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 27, 2014, 09:08:44 PM
I don't know who is on our list. ;D
I guess I find it odd that Bullseye is going so wild right now if he thought it was still going to happen. The other part of the equation is that it doesn't really matter if someone on our list hasn't signed with anyone else. Most guys aren't going to leave at all....they're going to stay put. If they stay put, that's no different if they chose BC, Wake Forest or somewhere else....still not here.
Bullseye going wild is weird. His facts don't mesh properly with the facts I have heard from different sources, so it feels like he is both a little out of the loop AND a little bit loopy at the moment. Kinda weird. I'm just gonna keep the faith and sit tight. And give the gift of gifs
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Quote from: dinger on March 27, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
Since the other thread got killed, this was my reaction to Goose saying Shaka is still in play...
I don't know why, but I still want to believe he is still in play as well. Maybe just delusional from staring at the screen for so many days.
So, with his record, would Shaka be such a hot commodity if his name was Bob Jones? Does the cool name play into the mystique?
Quote from: My source on March 27, 2014, 09:13:34 PM
So, with his record, would Shaka be such a hot commodity if his name was Bob Jones? Does the cool name play into the mystique?
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Quote from: dinger on March 27, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
Since the other thread got killed, this was my reaction to Goose saying Shaka is still in play...
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Yes I would love to hear more on that. IWB even stated on his podcast that it was dead. But as Ellis Redding once said, "hope is a dangerous thing."
It isn't dead til Shaka says it's dead.
And never trust a mouse.
Chico's
You if anyone knows your stuff. We need one guy to say yes and everyone else can stand pat. Our job is best in country this year and guys are lining up. If we dance with Shaka for a week and nothing happens it might be time well spent.
So the guy saying DONE DEAL says it is dead? Well, it would seem to me Miller, IWB, Bullseye are connected....that's not a bad thing, they should be based on their jobs, etc. If Bullseye says it then it only makes sense IWB and likely Miller say the same thing. Mark started pushing others, however, a few days ago like NIU's coach. But early on he was all in as well. Probably all getting the same information from the same source or sharing amongst themselves?
For the record...I want Marshall. I am not banging on Shaka drum because he is my only guy. I think he would be great hire and hope we get who school wants.
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:17:56 PM
Chico's
You if anyone knows your stuff. We need one guy to say yes and everyone else can stand pat. Our job is best in country this year and guys are lining up. If we dance with Shaka for a week and nothing happens it might be time well spent.
Hope so. In 2008 I was on vacation when the announcement came. I'm going on vacation tomorrow for the next 8 days skiing. Can't imagine we have a vacancy when I return.
OK, then here's another question I have: how sure are we that Howland will not make a move to Wake (BC ain't happening) if we keep stalling with this Shaka fiasco? The difference between him and the next candidate (sans Marshall) is pretty great in my opinion. I probably prefer Howland to Shaka anyway, especially after hearing all of the demands he's asking for and not coming through on.
In other words, are we thinking that he's given us the OK to check out Shaka/whoever and that he won't do anything until we've made a move?
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:20:14 PM
For the record...I want Marshall. I am not banging on Shaka drum because he is my only guy. I think he would be great hire and hope we get who school wants.
I'm down with that.
Here's my view. We just lost a coach that didn't really want to be here. Why spend so much time trying to woo a guy who seems like he doesn't want to be here?
Quote from: My source on March 27, 2014, 09:13:34 PM
So, with his record, would Shaka be such a hot commodity if his name was Bob Jones? Does the cool name play into the mystique?
There's definitely something about the guy that makes him the "cool" candidate. IMO, his being Black helps in that respect. He campaigned for Obama and is an outspoken liberal politically, which endears him to the vast majority of sportswriters and the media in general, as well as college kids. This all makes him seem a bit larger than life and, in all reality, better than he's actually been as a coach. He's the "it" guy, no doubt about it. If he had come to MU, I have no doubt Hill affirms his commitment immediately.
Was in the bank a few days ago, and guys in line were actually talking about Shaka Smart possibly coming to MU and how great it would be. You never hear people talking about MU. The topic had captured the public's imagination.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 27, 2014, 09:29:10 PM
There's definitely something about the guy that makes him the "cool" candidate. IMO, his being Black helps in that respect. He campaigned for Obama and is an outspoken liberal politically, which endears him to the vast majority of sportswriters and the media in general, as well as college kids. This all makes him seem a bit larger than life and, in all reality, better than he's actually been as a coach. He's the "it" guy, no doubt about it. If he had come to MU, I have no doubt Hill affirms his commitment immediately.
Was in the bank a few days ago, and guys in line were actually talking about Shaka Smart possibly coming to MU and how great it would be. You never hear people talking about MU. The topic had captured the public's imagination.
Wasn't once enough for you douchebag? GO AWAY!!!!!
Seems like the right spot to repost these thoughts, which I originally posted on the CS twitter feed two days ago.
Although I got caught up in Shakawatch like everyone else, I was never convinced he was the absolute best candidate.
It was pretty clear he was prioritizing TO% as his top focus. Except that it should be eFG%
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VCU's eFG% hasn't been great. Twice in the 200s offensively; worse than 100 defensively 3x. Granted, I would have had a lot of fun complaining about eFG% for the next six years, but it definitely concerned me.
He wasn't a slam dunk or significantly better than any other candidate.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 27, 2014, 09:29:10 PM
There's definitely something about the guy that makes him the "cool" candidate. IMO, his being Black helps in that respect. He campaigned for Obama and is an outspoken liberal politically, which endears him to the vast majority of sportswriters and the media in general, as well as college kids. This all makes him seem a bit larger than life and, in all reality, better than he's actually been as a coach. He's the "it" guy, no doubt about it. If he had come to MU, I have no doubt Hill affirms his commitment immediately.
Was in the bank a few days ago, and guys in line were actually talking about Shaka Smart possibly coming to MU and how great it would be. You never hear people talking about MU. The topic had captured the public's imagination.
You're awful. Just awful. Posters on the VCU board are howling at your expense right now. I feel sorry for your offspring.
I just thought I would share a quote that I heard tonight from someone close to the program. "Lack of AD is [messing] things up. Anything you hear is bullsh!t."
Quote from: Henry Sugar on March 27, 2014, 09:33:33 PM
Seems like the right spot to repost these thoughts
Although I got caught up in Shakawatch like everyone else, I was never convinced he was the absolute best candidate.
It was pretty clear he was prioritizing TO% as his top focus. Except that it should be eFG%
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VCU's eFG% hasn't been great. Twice in the 200s offensively; worse than 100 defensively 3x. Granted, I would have had a lot of fun complaining about eFG% for the next six years, but it definitely concerned me.
He wasn't a slam dunk or significantly better than any other candidate.
Do you have the same info for A.Miller, Marshall, or Martin. I would expect all may be better.
Quote from: csmithjump on March 27, 2014, 09:35:31 PM
I just thought I would share a quote that I heard tonight from someone close to the program. "Lack of AD is [messing] things up. Anything you hear is bullsh!t."
I think that was obvious when cords said he was staying for another year.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 27, 2014, 09:20:52 PM
Hope so. In 2008 I was on vacation when the announcement came. I'm going on vacation tomorrow for the next 8 days skiing. Can't imagine we have a vacancy when I return.
Is it hard to refresh the page while goin' downhill?
Quote from: Henry Sugar on March 27, 2014, 09:33:33 PM
Seems like the right spot to repost these thoughts
Although I got caught up in Shakawatch like everyone else, I was never convinced he was the absolute best candidate.
It was pretty clear he was prioritizing TO% as his top focus. Except that it should be eFG%
VCU's eFG% hasn't been great. Twice in the 200s offensively; worse than 100 defensively 3x. Granted, I would have had a lot of fun complaining about eFG% for the next six years, but it definitely concerned me.
He wasn't a slam dunk or significantly better than any other candidate.
Henry, have always appreciated your posts.
Allow me to share my thoughts on the issue. I do think Shaka is still finding the proper balance with his system. I believe his ideal version is closer to something that Florida runs. He's just needed the right athletes. I consider it a minor miracle that his numbers have been what they are with the recruits he's had to work with. Mostly 1 and 2 star guys that were brought in for CAA play. He's finally bringing in the big guns beginning with next year: ~6'8" guys that have guard-like skills and can press effectively.
I've been told that he talks to Pomeroy on a regular basis and I have no reason to doubt that fact. So, if that is in fact true, I'm sure he's well aware of the eFG% issue. His offense is evolving so I'm willing to give him a few years with the newer recruits to see if he can balance the two ratings.
Quote from: brandx on March 27, 2014, 09:35:48 PM
Do you have the same info for A.Miller, Marshall, or Martin. I would expect all may be better.
I did the Marshall information here (sorta)
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2014/03/some-coaching-candidates-by-numbers.html
Quote from: Warrior Ram on March 27, 2014, 09:38:49 PM
Henry, have always appreciated your posts.
Allow me to share my thoughts on the issue.
At this point, I don't really care if Shaka fixes his eFG% issue or not.
My point was that he wasn't a slam dunk.
You never know what tomorrow brings. March 28 is big day in school history if memory serves me.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 27, 2014, 09:38:32 PM
Is it hard to refresh the page while goin' downhill?
Exactly
This is how I've felt these last few days with people posting nonsense.
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Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 27, 2014, 09:20:52 PM
Hope so. In 2008 I was on vacation when the announcement came. I'm going on vacation tomorrow for the next 8 days skiing. Can't imagine we have a vacancy when I return.
Sunriver Oregon I hope
This has been interesting to watch. You guys still think he's in play?
tried to do gif. Failed..... some other time.
Quote from: jakeec on March 27, 2014, 09:49:18 PM
This has been interesting to watch. You guys still think he's in play?
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I think this might be the echo chamber we had the last few days.
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Hoping the search doesn't end like this......
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Thanks Stone Cold.
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:44:07 PM
You never know what tomorrow brings. March 28 is big day in school history if memory serves me.
67-59. Good times!
Quote from: brandx on March 27, 2014, 09:37:09 PM
I think that was obvious when cords said he was staying for another year.
Particularly when this little gem of news commands its own press conference...
why else would MU call a press conference about nothing? They are sending a message that the new coach will get to be involved in the AD hire, which is not a bad thing, necessarily, as they both need to get along....
Still, the situation is not ideal. This is like hiring a head football coach without a GM in place, Packers have been there, done that...
Quote from: TX_AZ_Warrior on March 27, 2014, 10:21:59 PM
Hoping the search doesn't end like this......
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I hope there was some netting down below...
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 27, 2014, 09:46:30 PM
Sunriver Oregon I hope
Mt Hood and Mt Bachelor is good skiing. I prefer Hood but Bachelor is near Bend which is a great western town.
My view on events of this week is that the week isn't over and the heavy set female has yet to warble. Color me an optimist but I think the jury is still out.
Quote from: keefe on March 28, 2014, 03:25:48 AM
My view on events of this week is that the week isn't over and the heavy set female has yet to warble. Color me an optimist but I think the jury is still out.
Are you saying the MU-Shaka saga is not over?
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:17:56 PM
Chico's
You if anyone knows your stuff. We need one guy to say yes and everyone else can stand pat. Our job is best in country this year and guys are lining up. If we dance with Shaka for a week and nothing happens it might be time well spent.
No Goose--we need the right guy to say yes. How do you feel about Wardle saying yes?
frankly, I am glad that Smart turned us down. A prima donna who would likely do Obamacare commercials in his free time.
Quote from: CoachingSearchNightmare on March 27, 2014, 09:04:13 PM
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Quote from: TX_AZ_Warrior on March 27, 2014, 10:21:59 PM
Hoping the search doesn't end like this......
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I hate cats....this made me smile
Quote from: keefe on March 28, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
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Can you make it bigger next time?
Quote from: keefe on March 28, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
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color=teal]Can you make it bigger next time?[/color]
I have heard magnifying glasses can work. That is what my source told me this morning.