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I think Wardle is going to run away with this, but just curious. I left Howland out. I don't see how many could be too angry with that hire.

I don't have season tickets!  >:(

Can you please add an all of the above option ?

I voted Wardle...however, if they don't hire Howland I am likely getting rid of mine.  Forcing Buzz out without a plan in place is foolish enough.  Failing to hire a big name coach who has stated he wants to coach at your school is unacceptable.  I'll spend my money on the Bills this year as I have to think their days here in Buffalo are numbered.

I included the worst candidates I could lol I just wanted to see who everyone thought was our worst option here. Howland has to be everyone's new hope here.

They are ALL horrible candidates. But what do I know? I hated the Buzz hire.

Quote from: CoachingSearchNightmare on March 27, 2014, 08:01:18 PM
They are ALL horrible candidates. But what do I know? I hated the Buzz hire.

I hated the Buzz hire too...but it wasn't as though we had a 3 time Final Four coach lobbying for the job back then. 

I would stop caring about the program if wardle were hired. Would still feel obligated to follow and know what's going on but wouldn't care. With that big budget we could give Brian barone a nice raise as well.

Hire Wardle at his current salary and cut everyone's tuition.

i was getting rid of mine until i heard smart was coming.  now they're gone no matter what.  i'll sit home and watch :(

Not local, but I'm not going to care to continue to get to a home and road game each year, or let the athletic department touch what I give when I can't stand the product.  Of the choices listed, Hopkins is the only one that would be acceptable, because he would leave us in a decent position in two or three years and we would ideally not have to pull someone six years removed from the job from a cabin in Idaho to conduct the next search.

It would be fascinating to see .. the re-seating donations of 2012 vs 2013 vs 2014, although I suppose 2012 would be near normal, since that was before the change from 2 to 1 year reseating came about.

Howland hiring could salvage 2014 .. but the product is severely damaged however you cut it.

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 27, 2014, 09:12:24 PM
It would be fascinating to see .. the re-seating donations of 2012 vs 2013 vs 2014, although I suppose 2012 would be near normal, since that was before the change from 2 to 1 year reseating came about.

Howland hiring could salvage 2014 .. but the product is severely damaged however you cut it.

Agree. I'm keeping mine, whoever they hire.  I've always wondered what the general season ticket holder opinion was of the team versus this board.  Does the typical "Season Ticket Holder of the Game," really care who we hire? 

You are all idiots.  Have big names not worked out before? Yes. How interested is Howland actually no one knows.  We've hired two assistants in a row as head coaches and they both worked out pretty well.  What had Buzz Wiliams proven before he was given the head coaching job? Nothing.  Brian Wardle hhas head coaching experience and is a MU alum.  I won't give up my tickets without giving a coach a chance.  Our last two guys have proved that to me.  I feel like all you posters that freak out on here and talk shi% about potential coaches are the same people booing this season at the bradley. 

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 27, 2014, 08:20:52 PM
i was getting rid of mine until i heard smart was coming.  now they're gone no matter what.  i'll sit home and watch :(

.                              I don't think we'll miss you much

Quote from: zrjones13 on March 27, 2014, 09:32:44 PM
You are all idiots.  Have big names not worked out before? Yes. How interested is Howland actually no one knows.  We've hired two assistants in a row as head coaches and they both worked out pretty well.  What had Buzz Wiliams proven before he was given the head coaching job? Nothing.  Brian Wardle hhas head coaching experience and is a MU alum.  I won't give up my tickets without giving a coach a chance.  Our last two guys have proved that to me.  I feel like all you posters that freak out on here and talk shi% about potential coaches are the same people booing this season at the bradley. 

Keeping my tickets, UW on schedule next year, be nice to beat an elite 8 team, Who ever hired Buzz needs to be on his Xmas card list for life

I think you have to factor in the lack of big name teams in the new big east in addition to the potential of a bland hire.  Buzz was a nobody but you still had a ton of fun opponents coming in.  Now you may have a so-so coach and teams far less desirable than a Syracuse or Louisville.

Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 27, 2014, 09:45:03 PM
I think you have to factor in the lack of big name teams in the new big east in addition to the potential of a bland hire.  Buzz was a nobody but you still had a ton of fun opponents coming in.  Now you may have a so-so coach and teams far less desirable than a Syracuse or Louisville.

The dogs of Rutgers, USF and new AAC schools of Tulane, UCF, Tulsa and East Carolina if MU  would've stayed.

Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 27, 2014, 09:45:03 PM
I think you have to factor in the lack of big name teams in the new big east in addition to the potential of a bland hire.  Buzz was a nobody but you still had a ton of fun opponents coming in.  Now you may have a so-so coach and teams far less desirable than a Syracuse or Louisville.

But are you a fan of marquette or their opponents.  If you had a bad team in the old big east you get blown out.  I don't care whose on Syracuse if Marquette's not good.  The conference has potential.  I'm just more pissed that people are trolling Wardle.  I'm sure if you went back to the muscoop threads when Buzz got hired all these people were freaking out saying they were getting rid of their tickets.  Just let whatever happens happen.

Quote from: The Hutch on March 27, 2014, 09:39:26 PM
.                              I don't think we'll miss you much

what the h is your problem?  you don't even know who i am dude.  pretty uncalled for... long time season ticket holder. an alum with 2 degrees, spent 9 years at mu, sent 2 kids who have graduated.  many more extended family have gone to mu...just because i stated my opinion of a question that was being posed to the board, doesn't call for a response like that.   

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 27, 2014, 10:30:12 PM
what the h is your problem?  you don't even know who i am dude.  pretty uncalled for... long time season ticket holder. an alum with 2 degrees, spent 9 years at mu, sent 2 kids who have graduated.  many more extended family have gone to mu...just because i stated my opinion of a question that was being posed to the board, doesn't call for a response like that.   

.             All that and yet still not renewing....

No season tickets long as you know who is playing you know how many minutes a night. No way

Quote from: Nevada233 on March 27, 2014, 10:48:50 PM
No season tickets long as you know who is playing you know how many minutes a night. No way

What does this mean?

D wil

Quote from: "The Bull" in a China Shop on March 27, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
D wil

+100

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 27, 2014, 10:30:12 PM
what the h is your problem?  you don't even know who i am dude.  pretty uncalled for... long time season ticket holder. an alum with 2 degrees, spent 9 years at mu, sent 2 kids who have graduated.  many more extended family have gone to mu...just because i stated my opinion of a question that was being posed to the board, doesn't call for a response like that.   

Please, gentlemen, Please...


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Quote from: The Hutch on March 27, 2014, 10:46:29 PM
.             All that and yet still not renewing....

dude-understand this is an emotional time.  you can see it with all the posting.  maybe i'll come around,  i've been a fan since the mcguire years-marched down wisco ave, 1977.  but, understand that marquette has changed, politically.  our past 3 presidents have made some bad decisions imho.  not trying to get political, but, just when ya think we've got something pretty good going and you believe a guy(buzz) when ya think he's bleeding blue and gold.  i was really looking forward to next year with the recruiting class that buzz had lined up and the next_____ years and really thought we had some momentum...hoping the next guy is going to blow our socks off, but right now, don't really know...and now the re-seating process?  your comment was way out of bounds    

The fact that more than half of scoopers will give up their season tickets because of a coaching hire says a lot about scoopers. Nothing good in that "a lot"

We will hire the best coach who is available. That should be good enough for us.

If we start whining and moaning before the coach is even hired, what coach would want to have us as his fan base?

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 27, 2014, 11:51:29 PM
The fact that more than half of scoopers will give up their season tickets because of a coaching hire says a lot about scoopers. Nothing good in that "a lot"

We will hire the best coach who is available. That should be good enough for us.

If we start whining and moaning before the coach is even hired, what coach would want to have us as his fan base?

Let's hope they are all men of their words. All I can say is "See ya later" to all of them. And hopefully they'll stay away from Scoop as well. We're better than that - they are a bunch of "summer patriots".

The real Marquette fans will still be here.

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 27, 2014, 11:51:29 PM
The fact that more than half of scoopers will give up their season tickets because of a coaching hire says a lot about scoopers. Nothing good in that "a lot"

We will hire the best coach who is available. That should be good enough for us.

If we start whining and moaning before the coach is even hired, what coach would want to have us as his fan base?

It's like people saying they are moving to Canada is so and so is elected.  Well, Alec Baldwin never left and I suspect most of these folks won't either. 

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2014, 01:25:28 AM
It's like people saying they are moving to Canada is so and so is elected.  Well, Alec Baldwin never left and I suspect most of these folks won't either. 

When has Cords missed?  Besides the Mike Deane hiring, he's 3/4.  My guess is that we will get someone that isn't a big name.  As soon as the name is announced or #donedeal we will probably have to look the person up online.  Who had heard of Tom Crean?  Who had heard of Mike Deane?  We only new Buzz from being an assistant, but he wasn't even the first choice.  He's out there....... waiting ........

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 01:30:15 AM
When has Cords missed?  Besides the Mike Deane hiring, he's 3/4.  My guess is that we will get someone that isn't a big name.  As soon as the name is announced or #donedeal we will probably have to look the person up online.  Who had heard of Tom Crean?  Who had heard of Mike Deane?  We only new Buzz from being an assistant, but he wasn't even the first choice.  He's out there....... waiting ........

Everyone knew the hot assistants in 1999 were Tom Crean and Quin Snyder.  Cords didn't hire Buzz.

KO was considered the #1 or #2 assistant in the country at Arizona.

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2014, 01:32:58 AM
Everyone knew the hot assistants in 1999 were Tom Crean and Quin Snyder.  Cords didn't hire Buzz.

KO was considered the #1 or #2 assistant in the country at Arizona.

Good to know.  I wasn't old enough to be that detailed about College BBall.  It does give some good perspective.  Well, I will have to go back and find the assistant ranking list.  My guess is that there's a guy on there that we will hire. 

I must say, I trust Cords, and his advisors (Doc), to choose a good coach.  As for season tickets, about 4000 tickets are sold if MU played in the WIAC and went 3-15.  For the other 3000 of us, we're a little more fickle.  We want to see high qaulity non conference games, wins, and the best players in the sport.  So, season ticket renewals will fall, but it won't be due to the coach.  It will be due to the decreased caliber of conference opponents.  there really is nothing MU can do about that, and they made the best choice available under the circumstances.

The only thing keeping me getting my tickets now is that I cannot give up my points that have accumulated since 1956. I may have to get the worse seats in the house and not go to games just to keep my longevity going. I was already considering doing this before the hire. As long as the majority of games are on TV, I am losing interst in driving 100 miles on snowy roads to see a game I can watch in my living room.

Quote from: bilsu on March 28, 2014, 07:21:21 AM
The only thing keeping me getting my tickets now is that I cannot give up my points that have accumulated since 1956. I may have to get the worse seats in the house and not go to games just to keep my longevity going. I was already considering doing this before the hire. As long as the majority of games are on TV, I am losing interst in driving 100 miles on snowy roads to see a game I can watch in my living room.

Right, the product on the floor last year was not worth the price of admission, parking or gas. You can just watch it home.

This thread is embarrassing.  Stay home fair weather old timers.

Quote from: bilsu on March 28, 2014, 07:21:21 AM
The only thing keeping me getting my tickets now is that I cannot give up my points that have accumulated since 1956. I may have to get the worse seats in the house and not go to games just to keep my longevity going. I was already considering doing this before the hire. As long as the majority of games are on TV, I am losing interst in driving 100 miles on snowy roads to see a game I can watch in my living room.

I wold suggest that this sums up much of the sentiment...those saying Wardle would be enough not to renew are likely teetering on the edge as it is...more about needing a reason to come back, than it is being given a reason not to.

Won't give up my season tickets .. but the draw to take a year off and spend $250 instead of $1400 for lower bowls is awfully tempting.  (to keep the B&G points going.)

Quote from: We R Final Four on March 28, 2014, 07:40:33 AM
This thread is embarrassing.  Stay home fair weather old timers.

Let us know when you start voting with your pocketbook.

Quote from: bilsu on March 28, 2014, 07:21:21 AM
The only thing keeping me getting my tickets now is that I cannot give up my points that have accumulated since 1956. I may have to get the worse seats in the house and not go to games just to keep my longevity going. I was already considering doing this before the hire. As long as the majority of games are on TV, I am losing interst in driving 100 miles on snowy roads to see a game I can watch in my living room.

I am on the much younger and lower points/financial end of this spectrum but I echo those sentiments. My drive in for games is probably longer than most. Tough to get excited for this past years team, not hiring the coach I'm excited for/have confidence in would probably cause me to reevaluate my purchase/B&G Donation. I wouldn't want to lose the points, but if the choice is between moving down (a decision I have been mulling) or just buying seats in row XX and being much more selective about games... I might chose the latter.

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 27, 2014, 11:51:29 PM
The fact that more than half of scoopers will give up their season tickets because of a coaching hire says a lot about scoopers. Nothing good in that "a lot"

We will hire the best coach who is available. That should be good enough for us.

If we start whining and moaning before the coach is even hired, what coach would want to have us as his fan base?

a good coach, if he even looks at this board, would use the naysayers as motivation to produce a product that would give guys like me, who are on the fence, a proverbial middle finger.  there is something "good" in that "a lot". 

Quote from: brandx on March 28, 2014, 12:19:28 AM
Let's hope they are all men of their words. All I can say is "See ya later" to all of them. And hopefully they'll stay away from Scoop as well. We're better than that - they are a bunch of "summer patriots".

The real Marquette fans will still be here.

didn't realize you had to have season tickets to post on this board.  i don't think they are in the prerequisites. some of us "older fans"?  a couple of things, wait a minute, i'm not that old(early 50's)-we and the "older older" fans have paved the way for you youngsters and those before us,likewise.  and i'm willing to go out on a limb and guess we provide a little more $$ to the blue and gold fund and the university than some of you who are seem a little wet behind the ears yet.  it might be a good idea not to piss off the alumni who continue to provide a lot of financial donations to the school in appreciation for the education we got which enabled us to live a decent life.  i believe many of us will come around, but let us be mad for awhile.  we may or may not re-new our tickets, but my suggestion is to not further anger the alumni base either.  that is not a threat.  it is just a suggestion similar to when many on this board will intimate that the critique of potential recruits could be prohibitive toward them coming here or not.     

I suspect the people who would drop their tix based solely on a coaching choice are in the minority.   I would keep the tix I've had for more than 20 years, and make the 9+ hour round trip drive to most home games like I have been doing for the past 16 years now.

That said, a coach like Howland or Smart would make me more excited about making extra B&G contributions.  Wardle, Weber, Martin?  Let's just say I'd lose some of that enthusiasm....

Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 28, 2014, 10:30:29 AM
I suspect the people who would drop their tix based solely on a coaching choice are in the minority.   I would keep the tix I've had for more than 20 years, and make the 9+ hour round trip drive to most home games like I have been doing for the past 16 years now.

That said, a coach like Howland or Smart would make me more excited about making extra B&G contributions.  Wardle, Weber, Martin?  Let's just say I'd lose some of that enthusiasm....

seriously, you are a great american and great marquette warrior-super kudos to you. you deserve special recognition for going above and beyond.  you are setting an excellent example for guys like me who sit here with a woe is me attitude. i admire your ambassadorship and it has me re-thinking my position on the season ticket thing-thank you-and i'm embarrassed to admit that i'm only 20 minutes away  ?-(-go mu!!

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 28, 2014, 08:03:42 AM
Let us know when you start voting with your pocketbook.

It's the Great American Way! (not to be confused with the Chicago Way, which involves voting with deceased relatives). As someone who has spent time in a lobbyist role: it's what gets things done.

Seriously though, everyone is kind of touchey today. I wish our PR had a better lid on it, so we could go back to not freaking out about everything and acting convinced that every move is the death knell to thebasketball program.

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 28, 2014, 10:10:39 AM
didn't realize you had to have season tickets to post on this board.  i don't think they are in the prerequisites. some of us "older fans"?  a couple of things, wait a minute, i'm not that old(early 50's)-we and the "older older" fans have paved the way for you youngsters and those before us,likewise.  and i'm willing to go out on a limb and guess we provide a little more $$ to the blue and gold fund and the university than some of you who are seem a little wet behind the ears yet.  it might be a good idea not to piss off the alumni who continue to provide a lot of financial donations to the school in appreciation for the education we got which enabled us to live a decent life.  i believe many of us will come around, but let us be mad for awhile.  we may or may not re-new our tickets, but my suggestion is to not further anger the alumni base either.  that is not a threat.  it is just a suggestion similar to when many on this board will intimate that the critique of potential recruits could be prohibitive toward them coming here or not.     

This is the reason I really do not want to get tickets anymore. They really pissed me off, when they did not want to give me passes to the hospitality room. I donated $3,000 for reseating. My mandatory donation for four tickets is $2,400. You need to donate $2,500 to qualify for hospitality room, but they changed the rule that it is for donations after June 30, so the reseating donations do not count. I gave them their extra $100, but it pissed me off so much that I thought I am done donating and I am still mad about it. Last season's performance and coaching change has nothing to do with it. A new coach might get me excited, but they certainly will not get a reseating donation from me.

Quote from: "The Bull" in a China Shop on March 27, 2014, 08:10:39 PM
Hire Wardle at his current salary and cut everyone's tuition.

Screw that.  Cut the cost of my tickets.

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 28, 2014, 08:03:42 AM
Let us know when you start voting with your pocketbook.

Do you mean by keeping my season tickets?

Ok--I'm letting you know.

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