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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: LastWarrior on March 26, 2014, 10:56:55 PM

Poll
Question: Take all the drama away, who do you want to coach MU next year?
Option 1: Shaka Smart
Option 2: Ben Howland
Title: Shaka or Howland
Post by: LastWarrior on March 26, 2014, 10:56:55 PM
Tough call in my book...
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: 🏀 on March 26, 2014, 10:58:12 PM
Neither...
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: The Process on March 26, 2014, 10:58:26 PM
Let me drink on it first.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: T.V. Diener 34 on March 26, 2014, 11:00:16 PM
I want Shaka but it's so close that if it meant waiting on him to decide and losing Howland in the process... I would take Howland 100 times out of 100.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: Eldon on March 26, 2014, 11:00:29 PM
I know Howland isn't the sexy pick.  He also may be missing the cool factor that Shaka has (although playing beer pong is pretty cool with students, IMO).

The guy has proven himself.  Nothing recruits better than success, both on the court and putting guys in the NBA.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: wadesworld on March 26, 2014, 11:00:51 PM
Relax.  Respect the process.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: Groin_pull on March 26, 2014, 11:00:58 PM
I'd be happy with either one.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: keefe on March 26, 2014, 11:02:01 PM
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Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: NivTastic on March 26, 2014, 11:03:09 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 26, 2014, 11:00:51 PM
Relax.  Respect the process.

Is there someone else?  Not asking for a name?
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: wadesworld on March 26, 2014, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: NivTastic on March 26, 2014, 11:03:09 PM
Is there someone else?  Not asking for a name?

Well let's hope so.  Shaka won't be easy to convince to leave VCU and Howland will be expensive.  No guarantee we get either.  Hopefully there is a backup plan.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: Newsdreams on March 26, 2014, 11:16:27 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 26, 2014, 11:13:40 PM
Well let's hope so.  Shaka won't be easy to convince to leave VCU and Howland will be expensive.  No guarantee we get either.  Hopefully there is a backup plan.
Oh, not Jeter or Wardle please!!!
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: 314warrior on March 26, 2014, 11:18:08 PM
Quote from: T.V. Diener 34 on March 26, 2014, 11:00:16 PM
I want Shaka but it's so close that if it meant waiting on him to decide and losing Howland in the process... I would take Howland 100 times out of 100.

Excellent point. I think I also fall in this camp.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: LastWarrior on March 27, 2014, 08:56:52 AM
I ended up going with Shaka not because I think he's the better coach but because I think he's going to be the better recruiter.  Kids will be lining up to play for this guy at MU.  That said, i'd be extremely happy with Howland as the coach and as long as he hires a young assistant with Chicago AAU ties there won't be drop in recruiting.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 27, 2014, 08:57:35 AM
Quote from: RTP on March 26, 2014, 11:00:51 PM
Relax.  Respect the process.

WADE
SAYS
RELAX
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 27, 2014, 09:03:03 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 27, 2014, 08:57:35 AM
WADE
SAYS
RELAX

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Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: tower912 on March 27, 2014, 09:04:51 AM
Shaka would probably be the better recruiter at MU and play a more exciting brand of basketball.   But with Howland, I wouldn't be worried about who was going to pry him away from MU.    Almost a coin flip. 
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: We R Final Four on March 27, 2014, 09:05:07 AM
Quote from: RTP on March 26, 2014, 11:13:40 PM
Well let's hope so.  Shaka won't be easy to convince to leave VCU and Howland will be expensive. 
FYI--SS isn't gonna be cheap either.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: PVMagic on March 27, 2014, 09:15:03 AM
Shaka has turned down a lot of good jobs in the past... anyone else feel like if (I know, big IF) he would come to MU, it would be because he wants to be in a big, basketball focused conference?  If he was just looking to coach here for a few years before moving on, he'd have no reason to leave VCU.  He may leave, eventually (he's probably got 25-30 years of coaching left) but I think we'd have him at least 5, possibly/probably longer... maybe at least as longa s we are expecting Howland to stick around.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on March 27, 2014, 09:19:42 AM
Quote from: RTP on March 26, 2014, 11:00:51 PM
Relax.  Respect the process.

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Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 27, 2014, 09:27:50 AM
Howland.  Proven he can win anywhere. 
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on March 27, 2014, 09:31:21 AM
I want Shaka.  But if he says no, does Howland's price stay up or go up further, knowing he's the next choice? 

I know.....respect the process.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 27, 2014, 09:38:46 AM
Quote from: PTM on March 26, 2014, 10:58:12 PM
Neither...

Haha, exactly!
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 27, 2014, 09:43:58 AM
I would be happy with ether Shaka or Howland.  Anxious to hear the announcement.  Also, happy we will have new assistant coaches.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: Sunbelt15 on March 27, 2014, 09:51:51 AM
If you don't know, the Big East is slowly falling into A-10 status. Other than money, there's no reason for Smart to leave VCU. I hope he comes, but doubts it.

The BE has been down-talked and disrespected this whole season. Now with no team making the Sweet 16, it will only add to the negativity. At this rate, we might be happy getting two teams in the big dance, down the line.

The BE isn't what it used to be, and many recognize it. We need to schedule stronger non-conference games, and win them, to get our respect back.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 27, 2014, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on March 27, 2014, 09:51:51 AM
If you don't know, the Big East is slowly falling into A-10 status. Other than money, there's no reason for Smart to leave VCU. I hope he comes, but doubts it.

The BE has been down-talked and disrespected this whole season. Now with no team making the Sweet 16, it will only add to the negativity. At this rate, we might be happy getting two teams in the big dance, down the line.

The BE isn't what it used to be, and many recognize it. We need to schedule stronger non-conference games, and win them, to get our respect back.

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Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: Windyplayer on March 27, 2014, 09:58:29 AM
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on March 27, 2014, 09:51:51 AM
If you don't know, the Big East is slowly falling into A-10 status. Other than money, there's no reason for Smart to leave VCU. I hope he comes, but doubts it.

The BE has been down-talked and disrespected this whole season. Now with no team making the Sweet 16, it will only add to the negativity. At this rate, we might be happy getting two teams in the big dance, down the line.

The BE isn't what it used to be, and many recognize it. We need to schedule stronger non-conference games, and win them, to get our respect back.
I don't agree with your premise, and let's not write off money. Money IS the driving force for almost every coach. As for the new BE, no, it isn't what it used to be--no conference ever will be. Someone brought this comparison up earlier and blasted it for good reason. The new Big East is still a very good conference--you shouldn't overlook that because it's no longer the best college basketball conference in the universe.
Title: Re: Shaka or Howland
Post by: bilsu on March 27, 2014, 10:03:27 AM
I voted Shaka, because he has not taken a year off from recruiting.
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