I don't do twitter, but just heard that we released him. Can someone confirm?
Per his twitter, his recruitment is wide open
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 7m
Here we go. 2014 former commit. #mubb RT @SandyCohenIII: I have been released of my NLI my window for recruitment is wide open
Just saw its official....
HIRE HOWLAND NOW!!!!
"I have been released"? Did you ask for it???????
Well that's craptastic.
Surprised MU wouldn't wait 48 hours on that. Unless they aren't close on reeling in a coach.
Per his twitter.
Here. We. Go.
Unless he knows he wants to follow Buzz.
Thought Marquette was his dream school?
Seems like we ought to hire a new coach before we grant any releases...
Relax Bros., all of Buzz' recruits will be granted their release. No biggie.
Quote from: mr.MUskie on March 22, 2014, 08:58:51 PM
Unless he knows he wants to follow Buzz.
Well it is Uncle Buzz to him
(http://ukdesperatehousewifeusa.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/deliverance.jpg)
Thought Marquette was his dream school? It will be a bigger loss if we lose Hill.
Doubt MU is close to any big name hire if they granted his release this quickly.
MU looks to be in a world of hurt. And it will only get worse if recruits start to bail.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 22, 2014, 09:00:32 PM
Relax Bros., all of Buzz' recruits will be granted their release. No biggie.
What about Chew's recruits....
Care face. Was a benchwarmer.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 22, 2014, 08:59:54 PM
Seems like we ought to hire a new coach before we grant any releases...
Isn't that the norm? Even if Cords/Broeker decided they didn't want Cohen for some reason, it now sets a precedent for Hill/Pierce/Shayok to claim unfair treatment if they ask for their release and are told to wait. Only way this makes sense is if the new coach is already lined up.
Chew's new residence will be in VA. Besides, recruits commit to the head dude.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 22, 2014, 09:00:32 PM
Relax Bros., all of Buzz' recruits will be granted their release. No biggie.
Only if they ask for it.
Quote from: mhendrick on March 22, 2014, 09:01:27 PM
Thought Marquette was his dream school? It will be a bigger loss if we lose Hill.
+1
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 22, 2014, 09:03:16 PM
Care face. Was a benchwarmer.
Only on Buzz's squad he would have been. No need to rip on the dude already.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 22, 2014, 09:03:16 PM
Care face. Was a benchwarmer.
Indeed. He looks soft, you can see it in his eyes.
Quote from: MarqLaw on March 22, 2014, 09:06:13 PM
Indeed. He looks soft, you can see it in his eyes.
haha this is a joke right?
Quote from: chapman on March 22, 2014, 09:03:39 PM
Isn't that the norm? Even if Cords/Broeker decided they didn't want Cohen for some reason, it now sets a precedent for Hill/Pierce/Shayok to claim unfair treatment if they ask for their release and are told to wait. Only way this makes sense is if the new coach is already lined up.
You would figure MU would say, wait until you meet with our new coach, etc., then we can discuss it. Makes no sense unless the kid signed up to play specifically for Buzz and not MU. If Ahmed Hill goes, then it is bad.
So far:
McKay gone
Harris gone
Cohen gone
Remember HS kids sign up to play for coaches, not schools, despite what they say. http://painttouches.com/2013/08/01/sandy-cohens-jump-from-anonymity-to-marquette/
That sucks, but if he wanted to be here so badly that he couldn't even wait a full day before asking for his release then good riddance.
Sandy,
Buzz is a phony. He has been exposed as an average game coach and a prima donna. Send a PM to some of the people on here and you will get some stories for sure, especially now that they can speak candidly.
And, if in doubt, ask DJ Newbill about Buzz and loyalty, relationships. Or rather, ask Buzz about Newbill and loyalty. And then watch Buzz squirm. I guarantee he looks to the ground once you ask.
Take it easy on the kid. He made a decision to play at my based on buzz being here. Buzz leaves and he wants to take control of his future. There is nothing wrong with that and there is no reason to take shots at him. He is a high school kid.
Some come some go. Marquette will be fine. Next coach should be selected, in part, to provide stability. MU pays well so why worry.
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on March 22, 2014, 09:24:54 PM
Take it easy on the kid. He made a decision to play at my based on buzz being here. Buzz leaves and he wants to take control of his future. There is nothing wrong with that and there is no reason to take shots at him. He is a high school kid.
But you would think that unless he plans to follow Buzz he would wait to see who the new coach is.
Seems like a quick decision.
Seems odd to release a kid at 8pm on Saturday?
Can't blame any of the recruits for fully exploring their options. They are all in a tough spot.
Stay calm, fella's. Let everything settle out. Who knows maybe new coach will be glad he opted out.
We should have pulled a Uthoff and told him he could not commit to Wisconsin.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 22, 2014, 09:41:20 PM
We should have pulled a Uthoff and told him he could not commit to Wisconsin.
Yeah cuz that worked out so well for Bo.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on March 22, 2014, 09:06:09 PM
Only on Buzz's squad he would have been. No need to rip on the dude already.
Depends where he ends up. Were you really that impressed?
I was never sold on this kid. My instinct says he is a big fish in a small pond. This gives our new coach some flexibility. If he is solid and our new coach is solid he will come back.
Buzz will poach all the recruits and take the assistants, we stand decimated.
If you thought this year was crap, wait for the next two. DePaul may be laughing at us.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 22, 2014, 09:02:22 PM
What about Chew's recruits....
Why would Chew stay on a sinking ship? We lose his recruits, this is bottom-feeder A-10 school the next two years.
Maybe the new coach didn't want him...
This shouldnt surprise anyone. Recruits commit to coaches, period. We'll lose all the commits we currently have and the new guy will bring in his batch
Quote from: ecompt on March 22, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
If you thought this year was crap, wait for the next two. DePaul may be laughing at us.
Have a drink, man.
We will be fine. We have cash money.
Quote from: vacinator on March 22, 2014, 09:55:00 PM
Maybe the new coach didn't want him...
But we don't have a name for that yet. Howlanced? Shakarood?
Quote from: MUeng on March 22, 2014, 09:56:16 PM
This shouldnt surprise anyone. Recruits commit to coaches, period. We'll lose all the commits we currently have and the new guy will bring in his batch
2014 is all dried up, so the batch has to start with 2015. Mayo and JJJ must return for halfway decent 2014.
Ahmed Hill is the key for 2014 class. He comes, then if Stone and others in 2015, MU fine.
Lose Hill and either Mayo or JJJ, then start to worry bigtime.
Let's not panic folks. The world has not come to an end. Let's see who the new coach is and the players he selects. Did anyone think these freshman were going to play under Buzz as freshman? It is time we get a coach for the next level and it works out. Have some faith that MU is more than one coach.
We have Burton and DuWil locked up. This is very comforting.
If I hear that Todd and Dawson are coming back, then I will feel a whole lot better. A lot better.
I heard Howland cooled on Cohen
Quote from: ecompt on March 22, 2014, 09:52:33 PM
Why would Chew stay on a sinking ship? We lose his recruits, this is bottom-feeder A-10 school the next two years.
Might as well fold up the program.
Remember that Buzz on the CBS interview said that he called all the recruits and had a chance to talk..I am sure he stated his case the way he say it.
I am sure that Cohen still believed in him and he probally has read all the MU message boards and decided MU was not his kind of school anymore.
Quote from: Class71 on March 22, 2014, 10:03:28 PM
Let's not panic folks. The world has not come to an end. Let's see who the new coach is and the players he selects. Did anyone think these freshman were going to play under Buzz as freshman? It is time we get a coach for the next level and it works out. Have some faith that MU is more than one coach.
Quote from: MUUWUWM on March 22, 2014, 10:10:35 PM
Remember that Buzz on the CBS interview said that he called all the recruits and had a chance to talk..I am sure he stated his case the way he say it.
I am sure that Cohen still believed in him and he probally has read all the MU message boards and decided MU was not his kind of school anymore.
Remember when Crean did that in 2008 and people here lost their minds.
Quote from: MUUWUWM on March 22, 2014, 10:10:35 PM
I am sure that Cohen still believed in him and he probally has read all the MU message boards and decided MU was not his kind of school anymore.
Well, then he is probably not right for Marquette, then. Not a tragedy by any stretch.
Can everyone just take a second to breathe, our two top 50 recruits, duane (fr) and deonte have already said they will remain, id bet that fischer (another top 50) will also stay, his decision to come here seemed to be more homesickness, rather than buzz. I can't imagine mayo leaving before his senior year. Still just over one day removed from the situation. There are still a lot of dominoes to fall, but lets not start making sensationalist statements comparing us to depaul.
Buzz recruited players that suited his style of basketball, we have no idea who our next coach is going to be and in turn don't know his style of basketball, it would be a mistake for the program to hire a head coach just to make their incoming recruiting class/current players happy, they need to think long term for the program, my hope is that they look for someone who looks at marquette as the destination rather than a stop on the way to their destination
Quote from: chapman on March 22, 2014, 10:11:03 PM
Agree. And we already have a start - if given the pick of two players on the roster that we'd want to return, it's probably Burton and Duane, the two who have already let us know they're committed to MU. Still a few more coaching dominoes to fall which could cause decommits in the '14 class, still graduate transfers to consider, etc. Really don't see where the depressive panic is coming from.
I think it comes from the fact that there is no leadership in place. If the leadership was in place finding a coach wouldn't be as big of a deal. The problem is there seems to be no stability. Even if they hire Howland, which would be a good hire in my opinion, we still don't know if he will be here for the long haul or if he will mesh with future leadership. I love that Duane and Deonte are committed to the university but it will be tough to win if they are all that remains. I believe the entire 2014 class will be gone. I trust the alumni and boosters to always make Marquette a successful basketball program, but the leadership needs to be set, and stay that way for a long time, to ensure success.
Recruits leave when coaches change. It happens. We aren't going to keep everyone. Cohen won't be the last.
We'll be fine.
Who at MU is making the decision to grant these releases? Why the rush? Why not just tell the kid that we are working out a plan to handle the releases, they may be conditioned or that may not, we will get this done in x weeks. At least by doing that you hold off the feeding frenzy that will occur when these guys are back on the market until hopefully we have named a coach.
Didn't we hold up the LOI releases when Crean left until Buzz was at least named.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 22, 2014, 10:31:20 PM
Who at MU is making the decision to grant these releases? Why the rush? Why not just tell the kid that we are working out a plan to handle the releases, they may be conditioned or that may not, we will get this done in x weeks. At least by doing that you hold off the feeding frenzy that will occur when these guys are back on the market until hopefully we have named a coach.
Didn't we hold up the LOI releases when Crean left until Buzz was at least named.
Some were released very quickly, others like Tyshawn were kept around to see if Buzz could salvage them.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 22, 2014, 10:32:47 PM
Some were released very quickly
Are you speaking of when Crean sh1tcanned Nick Williams from IIII?
Hours later and nothing from Marquette...
Sandy hasn't been released. Guessing...
Quote from: PTM on March 22, 2014, 10:54:36 PM
Hours later and nothing from Marquette...
Sandy hasn't been released. Guessing...
It is Saturday.
IWBs board says Cohen has not been released, and it was a misunderstanding. He may eventually get released, but isn't yet.
Quote from: mr.MUskie on March 22, 2014, 10:56:43 PM
It is Saturday.
Someone usually confirms it on twitter.
I find it kinda funny people keep saying there's no leadership at Marquette. Fr. Wild was president for 15 years and is continuing to provide guidance until a permanent president is named. Cords was AD for 25 years and still has Marquette's best interests at heart. There are plenty of schools that change presidents and ADs without any coaching exodus. It's WE ARE MARQUETTE, not WE ARE PRESIDENT X or ATHLETIC DIRECTOR Y.
Sandy would be great to have,but if he doesn't want to be here so be it,A Hill is by far the most important recruit for the next class.I live in the fox valley and have seen Sandy play
I wouldn't be stunned if we lost all the recruits. That happens pretty often after a coaching change.
I wish it wasn't so. But I don't plan to get on a ledge over something I can't control.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 22, 2014, 11:05:38 PM
I find it kinda funny people keep saying there's no leadership at Marquette. Fr. Wild was president for 15 years and is continuing to provide leadership until a permanent president is named. Cords was AD for 25 years and still has Marquette's best interests at heart. There are plenty of schools that change presidents and ADs without any coaching exodus. It's WE ARE MARQUETTE, not WE ARE PRESIDENT X or ATHLETIC DIRECTOR Y.
Exactly. We have two of the best possible men sitting in the most important seats. I am confident they have the full confidence of the Marquette Board. Their successors will understand and endorse any decisions these two have made or they wouldn't be worthy replacements.
Looks like we aren't the only program losing players due to Buzz:
http://www.roanoke.com/sports/columns_and_blogs/blogs/courtside/updated-blog-trevor-thompson-to-transfer/article_2bb7922a-b1ec-11e3-ac3e-0017a43b2370.html
QuoteAccording to Thompson's father, Williams had eyed Trevor when Trevor was in prep school and Williams was coaching Marquette. Thompson's father said that at the time, Williams told Trevor's prep school coaches that Trevor was "soft."
QuoteSo "he calls Trevor out basically in front of his teammates and says if you want a release, I'll give it to you now," Ryan Thompson said. "It was 50-50 going into that and that just basically nailed the coffin."
Quote from: keefe on March 22, 2014, 11:08:59 PM
Exactly. We have two of the best possible men sitting in the most important seats. I am confident they have the full confidence of the Marquette Board. Their successors will understand and endorse any decisions these two have made or they wouldn't be worthy replacements.
Right, we do, but for how long? That is the problem. Nothing says the replacements won't get an ego of their own and want to do things "their way" and hire "their guy." Nobody likes it, but there is uncertainty.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 22, 2014, 08:58:57 PM
Thought Marquette was his dream school?
Guess the dream is dead :o
Quote from: MU82 on March 22, 2014, 11:07:54 PM
I wouldn't be stunned if we lost all the recruits. That happens pretty often after a coaching change.
I wish it wasn't so. But I don't plan to get on a ledge over something I can't control.
The problem is that the last time (Crean's departure) Buzz rebuilt quickly with JC players. If JC players (and for that matter other recruits viewed as risks) are off the table we could be in for a longer dry spell. A season like 2014 doesn't hurt us much if we quickly recover. A few more no bid seasons and the momentum of the last 8 years could be gone. Got to stay relevant as someone said earlier.
Watch him go to Bucky...
Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 22, 2014, 11:43:32 PM
The problem is that the last time (Crean's departure) Buzz rebuilt quickly with JC players. If JC players (and for that matter other recruits viewed as risks) are off the table we could be in for a longer dry spell. A season like 2014 doesn't hurt us much if we quickly recover. A few more no bid seasons and the momentum of the last 8 years could be gone. Got to stay relevant as someone said earlier.
The problem is not JC's. The issue is players who do not meet admission requirements or, worse, have significant character issues.
Current recruits could not be less important in this whole thing. There's been a significant change. Some may want to change their minds, and they should, its ok. You don't rush to hire a coach to hang on to 2 or 3 kids that may or may no turn out to be good players. If he goes elsewhere, he goes elsewhere. His scholarship will go to someone else. Who gives a damn?
QuoteAccording to Thompson's father, Williams had eyed Trevor when Trevor was in prep school and Williams was coaching Marquette. Thompson's father said that at the time, Williams told Trevor's prep school coaches that Trevor was "soft."
So "he calls Trevor out basically in front of his teammates and says if you want a release, I'll give it to you now," Ryan Thompson said. "It was 50-50 going into that and that just basically nailed the coffin."
Way to be a dick, Buzz.
meh, looking at his hs high school, looked like he was going to be erik williams 2.0
Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 22, 2014, 11:55:41 PM
Way to be a dick, Buzz.
But it's all about relationships
45 min ago Dodds posted on TOS that Cohen has NOT been released from his NLI. Let's hope the kid waits to talk with the new coach before deciding.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on March 23, 2014, 01:19:49 AM
Harsh words. Can't we have less embarrassing fans?
You're right. It's not fair to Sandy Cohen. Just extremely disappointing since, if there was one player I pegged as an MU guy no matter what, it was him. I really do wish him the best, so long as his release doesn't give him the option of VT. Just hard to see the fabric of the next few years unravel, especially for those of us that didn't truly experience the immediate chaos of the post-Crean aftermath.
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on March 23, 2014, 01:25:13 AM
You're right. It's not fair to Sandy Cohen. Just extremely disappointing since, if there was one player I pegged as an MU guy no matter what, it was him. I really do wish him the best, so long as his release doesn't give him the option of VT. Just hard to see the fabric of the next few years unravel, especially for those of us that didn't truly experience the immediate chaos of the post-Crean aftermath.
You make no sense.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 22, 2014, 10:13:53 PM
Remember when Crean did that in 2008 and people here lost their minds.
Yep! ...still lost, looking and unable to find it.
None of Buzz's incomin' class will show up
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 23, 2014, 07:34:14 AM
None of Buzz's incomin' class will show up
Same thing happened when Crean left.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 23, 2014, 07:41:40 AM
Same thing happened when Crean left.
Otule & Erik Williams stayed in the fold. What that means to me is that we have 6 years of Satchel Pierce to look forward to!!
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 23, 2014, 07:44:22 AM
Otule & Erik Williams stayed in the fold. What that means to me is that we have 6 years of Satchel Pierce to look forward to!!
Hold this discussion for a week or so and let's see how things work out.
Changing head coaches means change for everyone, VT even lost a player because Buzz is coming.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 23, 2014, 07:47:46 AM
Hold this discussion for a week or so and let's see how things work out.
Changing head coaches means change for everyone, VT even lost a player because Buzz is coming.
I get it man, it was a joke.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 23, 2014, 07:41:40 AM
Same thing happened when Crean left.
Difference is, Crean didn't have the class the phony had recruited.
Quote from: ecompt on March 23, 2014, 08:07:06 AM
Difference is, Crean didn't have the class the phony had recruited.
Can't believe all of the recruits will de-commit. With Harris, who did not sign, that's five.
Harris - gone
Cohen - who knows about the tweet and release statement
Hill
Shayock
Pierce
When Crean left, he was replaced by Buzz. Nick Williams was dedicated to Crean, no question. Taylor was influenced by his HS Coach Hurley, who basically said, "Who the heck is Buzz Williams?" and bye-bye.
If Howland, Marshall or another noted coach is hired, at least the recruit will have knowledge of the coach and maybe play an integral part in the decision.
Quote from: ecompt on March 23, 2014, 08:07:06 AM
Difference is, Crean didn't have the class the phony had recruited.
Don't know about that.
If anyone in this class has a better college career than Tyshawn Taylor, I'll be surprised.
Point plankn.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 08:50:49 AM
Don't know about that.
If anyone in this class has a better college career than Tyshawn Taylor, I'll be surprised.
Point plankn.
I'd put money on Med Hill
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 23, 2014, 08:54:48 AM
I'd put money on Med Hill
OK. I'll put you down for having Ahmed Hill as a second-team All-American (or better) and represent the U.S. in the U-19 World Championships.
Jude 1:10
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 09:01:59 AM
OK. I'll put you down for having Ahmed Hill as a second-team All-American (or better) and represent the U.S. in the U-19 World Championships.
Two political honors are not how I would judge a college career. Regardless, yes, I believe Med Hill will have a better college career than Tyshawn Taylor.
Quote from: ecompt on March 22, 2014, 09:52:33 PM
Why would Chew stay on a sinking ship? We lose his recruits, this is bottom-feeder A-10 school the next two years.
Chew is tied to Buzz. he can't be blamed for following him. A new coach will want to bring in his people. Chew wants to preserve his job. Hope he enjoys the coal country.
Quote from: nyg on March 22, 2014, 09:12:13 PM
You would figure MU would say, wait until you meet with our new coach, etc., then we can discuss it. Makes no sense unless the kid signed up to play specifically for Buzz and not MU. If Ahmed Hill goes, then it is bad.
So far:
McKay gone
Harris gone
Cohen gone
McKay may be much smarter than we all credited him for. He will be jamming baskets for the Mayor in Ames. Hoiberg is building a nice dynasty there.
Quote from: Goose on March 22, 2014, 09:40:50 PM
Stay calm, fella's. Let everything settle out. Who knows maybe new coach will be glad he opted out.
The kid likely is talented, and it is sad to see this. But it is the reality fallout of Buzz's idiotic move.
If we can get a good coach and MU is Cohen's dream school, then hopefully we can get him to re-sign. But it is his choice.
In fact, it may be good PR what MU did. If he was told no, we won't release you until the new guy talks to you, that might just piss him and his family off more.
Thank you El Bozo "I'm outta Here" Williams"
Quote from: willie warrior on March 23, 2014, 09:27:28 AM
Chew is tied to Buzz. he can't be blamed for following him. A new coach will want to bring in his people. Chew wants to preserve his job. Hope he enjoys the coal country.
Fairly certain that aside from the fat paycheck we threw at him, Marquette's appeal to Chew was that he loves Chicago and it was even closer to home for him than Champaign, IL. Blacksburg may not be all that appealing to him, and if the new coach wants him to stay I could see him being convinced. He's the only one I'd assign a non-zero probability to in that department though.
Quote from: keefe on March 22, 2014, 10:04:47 PM
I heard Howland cooled on Cohen
Keefe--have you been eating too many hamhocks? That can't be true this quickly?
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 23, 2014, 09:33:53 AM
Fairly certain that aside from the fat paycheck we threw at him, Marquette's appeal to Chew was that he loves Chicago and it was even closer to home for him than Champaign, IL. Blacksburg may not be all that appealing to him, and if the new coach wants him to stay I could see him being convinced. He's the only one I'd assign a non-zero probability to in that department though.
A city guy like Chew will not like Blacksburg. But what is his devotion level, to Buzz or MU?
You can change your avatar now. Please......
Quote from: keefe on March 22, 2014, 10:14:42 PM
Well, then he is probably not right for Marquette, then. Not a tragedy by any stretch.
Exactly. He may read the message board, but the kid would not base that decision on that--unless he also wanted to follow Buzz.
Quote from: keefe on March 22, 2014, 11:08:59 PM
Exactly. We have two of the best possible men sitting in the most important seats. I am confident they have the full confidence of the Marquette Board. Their successors will understand and endorse any decisions these two have made or they wouldn't be worthy replacements.
Yep!
Quote from: nyg on March 23, 2014, 09:36:52 AM
A city guy like Chew will not like Blacksburg. But what is his devotion level, to Buzz or MU?
You can change your avatar now. Please......
Haha laziness and typing from a phone. Soon enough
Just hope that Fischer, Taylor and Johnson will stay with Burton and Du-Wil. That would be a good start.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 23, 2014, 09:21:20 AM
Two political honors are not how I would judge a college career. Regardless, yes, I believe Med Hill will have a better college career than Tyshawn Taylor.
So, the determination of whether you are correct will be based upon your personal unstated criteria?
That seems objective and reasonable.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 23, 2014, 07:47:46 AM
Hold this discussion for a week or so and let's see how things work out.
Changing head coaches means change for everyone, VT even lost a player because Buzz is coming.
VT is also going to lose their ass with Buzz coming!
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 23, 2014, 09:33:53 AM
Fairly certain that aside from the fat paycheck we threw at him, Marquette's appeal to Chew was that he loves Chicago and it was even closer to home for him than Champaign, IL. Blacksburg may not be all that appealing to him, and if the new coach wants him to stay I could see him being convinced. He's the only one I'd assign a non-zero probability to in that department though.
Chew is easy enough replaceable. New coach should and will bring in his own posse.
Quote from: Earl Tatum on March 23, 2014, 09:39:31 AM
Just hope that Fischer, Taylor and Johnson will stay with Burton and Du-Wil. That would be a good start.
Have a hard time believing that Fischer, who reportedly transferred to be closer to home, transfers away from home and sits out yet another year. To MU's benefit, he's pretty much stuck.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 09:41:31 AM
Have a hard time believing that Fischer, who reportedly transferred to be closer to home, transfers away from home and sits out yet another year. To MU's benefit, he's pretty much stuck.
Will try to be more optimistic here. "Stuck" may be how it looks now, but when all the dust settles, he just may be better off.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 09:41:31 AM
Have a hard time believing that Fischer, who reportedly transferred to be closer to home, transfers away from home and sits out yet another year. To MU's benefit, he's pretty much stuck.
Not really. Would probably "get to" use more competition eligibility by transferring elsewhere.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 23, 2014, 10:14:53 AM
Not really. Would probably "get to" use more competition eligibility by transferring elsewhere.
Explain further.
I'm under the impression that since he's enrolled at MU, he'd have to sit out even more time as a transfer.
Plus there's the question of where he could end up, given intra-conference transfer rules. UWGB? Milwaukee? A-10? (not exactly close to home)
Forgot Dawson. Think he will be glue
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 10:19:59 AM
Explain further.
I'm under the impression that since he's enrolled at MU, he'd have to sit out even more time as a transfer.
Sure. (Not trying to give him any ideas. We could really use his help.)
You're right - he needs to sit out a year in residence, as defined. He used one year of eligibility in 2013-14 so he has 4 years left to play 3 seasons.
If he remains at MU, he can begin playing when the first semester ends in December. Then, he'd have two years left of competition eligibility. So, at MU he would likely play 2.5-ish years.
If he transferred this summer, he'd sit out all of 2014-15. However, he'd then have three years left to play three years. Thus, he'd likely actually play MORE elsewhere than he would if he stayed at MU.
(Not trying to argue the obvious counters such as not getting to play until fall 2015, potential restrictions on landing spots, etc... just saying he's not as stuck as you might think.)
Cohen not released. Hunt just posted correction
Hunt with some juicy info, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 23, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
Hunt with some juicy info, hey?
Who knew?
Maybe he only gives his best effort when a hint of scandal is involved....
http://m.jsonline.com/251781261.htm
You guys really think the NLI be workin dis weekend?
Anyway, a release wouldn't be much more than a formality. The issue is what Cohen's words were.
Thoughts and decisions sometimes change, but right now if he's saying he's wide open (Cohen, not Mike Hunt), then you know where things stand. Ground that is less than firm.
Can't be released according to cordsuntil he talks to new coach. A marquette all sports policy.
Quote from: melissasmooth on March 23, 2014, 11:09:32 AM
Can't be released according to cordsuntil he talks to new coach. A marquette all sports policy.
Policies are sometimes deviated from.
Just stating what cords said in article
Quote from: melissasmooth on March 23, 2014, 11:24:47 AM
Just stating what cords said in article
I deal in the business of reality, Merissa!
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 23, 2014, 11:06:42 AM
You guys really think the NLI be workin dis weekend?
Anyway, a release wouldn't be much more than a formality. The issue is what Cohen's words were.
Thoughts and decisions sometimes change, but right now if he's saying he's wide open (Cohen, not Mike Hunt), then you know where things stand. Ground that is less than firm.
Firm? It's like standin' in cow pies, hey?