No inside scoop at the moment, but I am latching onto Marshall and hope we land him.
Hope you are right, don't think it will happen
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/warning-schools-interested-gregg-marshall-won-t-easy-145403691--ncaab.html
I'm with you Goose. As I stated in another thread, this would be the perfect job for him.
Also, that article is a year old. Things change, see Williams, Buzz.
My gut tells me we land him. It would be signature hire and one is needed.
His quotes seem par for any coach in a non-power school, but he's ruthless so he will leave eventually...just don't think it will us.
Rather get Howland quickly than have to wait a week or more just to try for Marshall.
Sometimes waiting is best plan of attack. I would wait him out all day long.
Quote from: Goose on March 22, 2014, 01:21:08 PM
My gut tells me we land him. It would be signature hire and one is needed.
Love to get him but I don't see it happening. I agree we need a sold hire but that is easier said than done.
I'm all for Marshall as well. I see chicos article and agree he seems attached, but that's so common. Some of his recruiting tactics given the flack Buzz got could be an issue (juco), but he probably had to do that more at Wichita than he would at Marquette now that he is pretty established. Buzz had to go that route because no one knew who he was and when they learned he no longer had to go that route.
1 - Marshall
2 - Howland
3 - long shots and no shots like Bennett (I don't care about his style, he wins), Smart
Really would rather avoid the risk of an "up and coming" assistant.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 22, 2014, 01:21:43 PM
His quotes seem par for any coach in a non-power school, but he's ruthless so he will leave eventually...just don't think it will us.
Rather get Howland quickly than have to wait a week or more just to try for Marshall.
Howland ain't goin anywhere... he'll still be in the same place next week as he is right now if we don't hire him... unemployed.. this kind of a hire shouldn't be rushed and we should try to contact ALL desired candidates even if there's only a glimmer of hope we land them (i.e. Shaka, Marshall, etc.)
Goose
He would be a great hire but is there mutual interest? Howland is keen. I love the thought of him developing Luke Fischer along the lines of Kevin Love.
The future is bright, my friend. We are better off today than 48 hours ago.
Quote from: Goose on March 22, 2014, 01:15:23 PM
No inside scoop at the moment, but I am latching onto Marshall and hope we land him.
So would this be called the Marshall Plan?
Quote from: T.V. Diener 34 on March 22, 2014, 01:26:51 PM
Howland ain't goin anywhere... he'll still be in the same place next week as he is right now if we don't hire him... unemployed.. this kind of a hire shouldn't be rushed and we should try to contact ALL desired candidates even if there's only a glimmer of hope we land them (i.e. Shaka, Marshall, etc.)
Jay Bee made a great point. He is unemployed because
he wants to beIMO, we need to jump on him. I believe Wake and BC are also still looking for coaches (and perhaps still more will after Madness ends)
Quote from: T.V. Diener 34 on March 22, 2014, 01:26:51 PM
Howland ain't goin anywhere... he'll still be in the same place next week as he is right now if we don't hire him... unemployed.. this kind of a hire shouldn't be rushed and we should try to contact ALL desired candidates even if there's only a glimmer of hope we land them (i.e. Shaka, Marshall, etc.)
I am confident MU is being very proactive in their search. I also think Howland is an attractive hire for a number of schools.
Quote from: keefe on March 22, 2014, 01:29:21 PM
I am confident MU is being very proactive in their search. I also think Howland is an attractive hire for a number of schools.
I don't doubt they are... I would hope and expect for nothing less.
Marshall is easily option #1 in my mind. As much as I want Wichita St. to win the whole thing, I always root for whatever is in Marquette's best interests so I hope they bow out early giving us to make a strong run at him soon.
If it's not possible, I want Masiello or a young guy like him that has at least a modicum of successful HC experience, recruiting experience as an assistant at a power school, playing experience at a D1 school, and plays an exciting uptempo style. With the player base we have, a guy like that could thrive immediately and gain instant recruiting credibility while maintaining a congruent Marquette "brand."
The more I think about it, a guy like Howland does nothing for me.
Why would he leave Wichita State after the run he's had the last couple seasons?
Norm,
I can probably think of a few million reasons off the top of my head.
Quote from: Goose on March 22, 2014, 01:56:04 PM
Norm,
I can probably think of a few million reasons off the top of my head.
Marshall makes 1.75M a year right now.
Quote from: Norm on March 22, 2014, 01:50:27 PM
Why would he leave Wichita State after the run he's had the last couple seasons?
Because it will be hard to duplicate and fans wil expect him to do it again. Butler made it to final four two straignt years, because the core players had an intangible ability to win NCAA games. Stephen's could of stayed at Butler another 30 years and never got back to final four. It might be time for Marshall to move, but I am not sure MU is a program to move to. The one advantage MU has, is that there are not really any big jobs open.
Does not sound like 2.8 million to me. MU has money to burn on the program.
Lance Allan @lanceallan 10m
When you mention Marquette men's basketball head coaching candidates don't forget Kevin O'Neill whom interim AD Bill Cords is considering
Quote from: Norm on March 22, 2014, 01:50:27 PM
Why would he leave Wichita State after the run he's had the last couple seasons?
Cleanthony Early (their best player) is a senior along with two other starters. He'd walk into a fresh roster here at a higher ceiling program, along with a honeymoon period and an extra ~$1 mil/year in his pocket. Not that far-fetched, hope he sees it that way too.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 22, 2014, 02:01:42 PM
Cleanthony Early (their best player) is a senior along with two other starters. He'd walk into a fresh roster here at a higher ceiling program, along with a honeymoon period and an extra ~$1 mil/year in his pocket. Not that far-fetched, hope he sees it that way too.
A higher ceiling? We just went 17-15. His team is 35-0, went to a Final Four last year, and a 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament. Even if WSU isn't as good of a team next year, they will still have a shining record next year and win their conference/be in the NCAA. Sorry, but a higher ceiling isn't why he would come here. His ceiling is about as high as it gets.
Quote from: mufansince72 on March 22, 2014, 02:00:52 PM
Lance Allan @lanceallan 10m
When you mention Marquette men's basketball head coaching candidates don't forget Kevin O'Neill whom interim AD Bill Cords is considering
Blech. No retreads please. O'Neill was pretty much lobbying for the job it seemed with all of his fond reminiscences during broadcasts. And if they're considering him for interim purposes, EVEN WORSE. No flameout retreads, no interim coaches.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 22, 2014, 02:03:54 PM
A higher ceiling? We just went 17-15. His team is 35-0, went to a Final Four last year, and a 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament. Even if WSU isn't as good of a team next year, they will still have a shining record next year and win their conference/be in the NCAA. Sorry, but a higher ceiling isn't why he would come here. His ceiling is about as high as it gets.
Look at it this way. Both Wichita St. and Marquette have openings after the tournament. I'll even assume Wichita St. goes to the final four again this year. You're a coach considering one or the other. Which program has a higher ceiling to you?
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 22, 2014, 02:07:42 PM
Look at it this way. Both Wichita St. and Marquette have openings after the tournament. I'll even assume Wichita St. goes to the final four again this year. You're a coach considering one or the other. Which program has a higher ceiling to you?
But we're not looking at it that way. We're looking trying to steal a coach from them.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 22, 2014, 02:09:26 PM
But we're not looking at it that way. We're looking trying to steal a coach from them.
But that's essentially what it is for him. He looks at two programs. One he can stay at, the other he can go to. Which one has a higher ceiling long term? He would be the coach at both, so take that out of consideration when looking at Wichita St. It's a choice he'll have to make, but it's undeniable that MU is a higher-ceiling basketball program when looked at from that perspective.
I'm not saying he'll even consider it, as other factors such as comfort, familiarity, job security, relationship with admin, relationship with fan base, and other things will obviously come into play. I was simply responding to the question of why he would even consider leaving Wichita St. after the run he has been on.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 22, 2014, 02:20:05 PM
But that's essentially what it is for him. He looks at two programs. One he can stay at, the other he can go to. Which one has a higher ceiling long term? He would be the coach at both, so take that out of consideration when looking at Wichita St. It's a choice he'll have to make, but it's undeniable that MU is a higher-ceiling basketball program when looked at from that perspective.
I'm not saying he'll even consider it, as other factors such as comfort, familiarity, job security, relationship with admin, relationship with fan base, and other things will obviously come into play. I was simply responding to the question of why he would even consider leaving Wichita St. after the run he has been on.
I don't see how you can say that. If WSU goes on to win the National Championship they are the first team to go undefeated in college basketball since 1976 and just won a National Championship. If they do that how do you raise the ceiling above that? It's literally not possible. Even if they lose to Kentucky you're coming off of a Final Four followed a 35-1 season. I would love to see Marquette reach that ceiling. I don't see it happening anytime soon.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 22, 2014, 02:24:22 PM
I don't see how you can say that. If WSU goes on to win the National Championship they are the first team to go undefeated in college basketball since 1976 and just won a National Championship. If they do that how do you raise the ceiling above that? It's literally not possible. Even if they lose to Kentucky you're coming off of a Final Four followed a 35-1 season. I would love to see Marquette reach that ceiling. I don't see it happening anytime soon.
Final 4 followed by round of 32? Pretty sure he'd see himself as capable of replicating that at MU over a 7-8 year contract. Losing Early and two other starters, would he see himself as able to do the same again at Wichita St. over the next 7 years? Brad Stevens went to back to back finals then ended up CBI round of 32 and unable to restock the cupboard. Early is not coming back. MU has a young talented roster to walk into in a much better conference with much greater financial support (does he have a private jet at Wichita St.? I honestly don't know but I doubt it). It could definitely look enticing is all I'm saying.
Oh my goodness, no way, not Kevin O'Neill. That would be like a Marquette Gold move. Move forward please and don't screw this up.
Goose, I'm with you.
Marshall is the one.
O'Neill would LOVE the job.
And he does have a good relationship with Cords.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if guys like Howland or Marshall fall through.
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Chico ?
Quote from: GoldenEagle2002 on March 22, 2014, 02:44:50 PM
Oh my goodness, no way, not Kevin O'Neill. That would be like a Marquette Gold move. Move forward please and don't screw this up.
Yep, that can't happen. If a coach ever wanted him on staff, I'd be all about it. As the head guy, it wouldn't be too special the second time around.
Quote from: keefe on March 22, 2014, 01:29:21 PM
I am confident MU is being very proactive in their search. I also think Howland is an attractive hire for a number of schools.
DePaul would kill to get him, but no chance there.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 22, 2014, 01:18:03 PM
Hope you are right, don't think it will happen
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/warning-schools-interested-gregg-marshall-won-t-easy-145403691--ncaab.html
He's not exactly shutting that door in the article when he says:
"This could be a destination job for me.
Now it may not be, but I'm just saying I'm not in a big hurry and I never have been."
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 22, 2014, 03:07:36 PM
O'Neill would LOVE the job.
And he does have a good relationship with Cords.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if guys like Howland or Marshall fall through.
Nice to hear from you Kevin
I would think Greg Gard or Saul Phillips would be a good hire. I don't see them getting Marshall.
Quote from: jakeec on March 22, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
I would think Greg Gard or Saul Phillips would be a good hire. I don't see them getting Marshall.
::) Absolutely not. No Badger ties.
The article said Marshall didn't want to mess with happy. Deja vu all over again.