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Title: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: KipsBayEagle on March 21, 2014, 10:33:47 PM
You sign him tonight. He would be a perfect fit for Marquette, and apparently really wants this opening. He is still a big time coach, and would crush it in the big east.  Plus he is at that age where Marquette may be the final stop for him, especially after what happened to him at ucla.
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 21, 2014, 10:36:15 PM
Someone said they "heard" things might be announced by next Wednesday.  That would probably eliminate most current coaches but would not eliminate Howland.
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: keefe on March 21, 2014, 10:41:00 PM
This would be an outstanding choice. I say hire him now.
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 21, 2014, 10:43:45 PM
Quote from: keefe on March 21, 2014, 10:41:00 PM
This would be an outstanding choice. I say hire him now.

Ditto
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: Warrior3211 on March 21, 2014, 10:45:49 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/magazine/02/28/ucla/

Is this really the guy everyone wants?

Also, Gregg Marshall can't control his staff or players. Last year I witnessed WSU beat an opponent in the final seconds of a game, Ron Baker gave double birds to the opposing fans, and then there was a scuffle started by WSU assistants against their opponents assistants in the tunnel. The coaches had to be separated by police. Good coach.  No class.
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: Eldon on March 21, 2014, 10:47:09 PM
Quote from: Warrior1214 on March 21, 2014, 10:45:49 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/magazine/02/28/ucla/

Is this really the guy everyone wants?

Also, Gregg Marshall can't control his staff or players. Last year I witnessed WSU beat an opponent in the final seconds of a game, Ron Baker gave double birds to the opposing fans, and then there was a scuffle started by WSU assistants against their opponents assistants in the tunnel. The coaches had to be separated by police. Good coach.  No class.

Didn't you watch the Requiem documentary?  That's classic Big East right there.  Ratings for the new FS1
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: Norm on March 21, 2014, 10:47:46 PM
Doesn't Howland have a fairly grating personality who did not get along with the press at all? Or was that only out in LA?

I'm not doubting his resume, but is he going to want to do some of the selling of the program that is required? He is an older coach, who was broomed out of his last job for failure to properly oversee his program.
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 21, 2014, 10:52:48 PM
Press? I didnt know that was even a consideration in MKE

Quote from: Norm on March 21, 2014, 10:47:46 PM
Doesn't Howland have a fairly grating personality who did not get along with the press at all? Or was that only out in LA?
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: Pakuni on March 21, 2014, 10:57:32 PM
I don't think "is chummy with press" is particularly high on the list of job essentials.
Just win, baby.
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: keefe on March 21, 2014, 11:02:19 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2014, 10:57:32 PM
I don't think "is chummy with press" is particularly high on the list of job essentials.
Just win, baby.

But then you never want to piss off Mike Hunt.
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: Goose on March 21, 2014, 11:04:58 PM
Keefe

You rock!!!
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: GB Warrior on March 21, 2014, 11:10:50 PM
If he's dumb enough to sign with all of the crap going on at this university and the fact that there is no evidence this conference aspires to consistent high major status, you let the idiot do it. Worst he can do is leave after a couple seasons for a cellar dweller job. It's no longer unprecedented.
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: Norm on March 21, 2014, 11:15:08 PM
I'm not saying he has to be "chummy" with the press, just not antagonistic. It helps, especially when you first starting a job, to make yourself available, do interviews, try to sell the program to the fans in the area. I'm just wondering if he's the kind of guy to do that, or would he chafe at that type of work?
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 21, 2014, 11:17:59 PM
Quote from: Norm on March 21, 2014, 10:47:46 PM
Doesn't Howland have a fairly grating personality who did not get along with the press at all? Or was that only out in LA?

I'm not doubting his resume, but is he going to want to do some of the selling of the program that is required? He is an older coach, who was broomed out of his last job for failure to properly oversee his program.

Correct, though in Milwaukee that is not much of an issue.  My worry would be more about recruiting and his ability to grind it out to get players.  He can coach kids up, but can he get the kids needed without UCLA on the business card.  At age 57, is he willing to bust arse the next 10 years?
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: 79Warrior on March 22, 2014, 12:31:02 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 21, 2014, 11:17:59 PM
Correct, though in Milwaukee that is not much of an issue.  My worry would be more about recruiting and his ability to grind it out to get players.  He can coach kids up, but can he get the kids needed without UCLA on the business card.  At age 57, is he willing to bust arse the next 10 years?

How is Steve Fisher doing at 68???

Ben is a coach and he will do what it takes.
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: chapman on March 22, 2014, 01:00:26 AM
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 22, 2014, 12:31:02 AM
How is Steve Fisher doing at 68???

Ben is a coach and he will do what it takes.

Yep, and he can just hand them a list of players he's coached.  Then again, I hear talking about everything in life except basketball with recruits really appeals to them.
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 22, 2014, 01:18:59 AM
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 22, 2014, 12:31:02 AM
How is Steve Fisher doing at 68???

Ben is a coach and he will do what it takes.

I still think SDSU is so overrated it isn't funny.  They also proved it again last night.  Playing in that league allows you to get on a 10 or 12 game winning streak and run up the rankings. 
Title: Re: If Ben howland really does want this job....
Post by: WesleyPipes on March 22, 2014, 01:19:12 AM
Quote from: Warrior1214 on March 21, 2014, 10:45:49 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/magazine/02/28/ucla/

Is this really the guy everyone wants?

Also, Gregg Marshall can't control his staff or players. Last year I witnessed WSU beat an opponent in the final seconds of a game, Ron Baker gave double birds to the opposing fans, and then there was a scuffle started by WSU assistants against their opponents assistants in the tunnel. The coaches had to be separated by police. Good coach.  No class.

I couldn't take any more of that article so I just skimmed the rest... What I gathered is that Howland was the assistant coach to problems beyond his control. Yes he recruited these players, but I'm sure his discipline was at the behest of the alumni.
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