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Title: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: chapman on March 21, 2014, 07:05:06 PM
Will try to keep this updated.  If you have a Tweet or other source that isn't purely speculative, please post and I'll get it in the OP.


Current Players

Juan Anderson

Deonte Burton - STAYING  
@AndrewGruman: Deonte Burton said this doesn't have any impact on his status at Marquette. Says he's staying.


John Dawson- STAYING  
david d. dawson ‏@dddawson1  1h
@Daily_Eagle @BBaranowski lol don't get it twisted I could coach those men but they have great coaches still on board and big names applying


Luke Fischer

Jajuan Johnson

Todd Mayo

Steve Taylor, Jr.

Derrick Wilson

Duane Wilson - STAYING
Chosen One ‏@SwaggyDu1  37m
We will work harder than ever and to keep the tradition going no matter who they bring in. We will bounce back. #WeAreMarquette #mubb





Recruits

Sandy Cohen - DE-COMMITTED, NOT RELEASED
Chief Cohen ▲ ‏@SandyCohenIII  12m
I have been released of my NLI my window for recruitment is wide open
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/251781261.html

Phillip Flory

Malek Harris

Ahmed Hill

Nick Noskowiak - COMMITTED
Paint Touches ‏@PaintTouches  4m
2015 commit Nick Noskowiak to PT: "As of right now I am verbally committed to Marquette." #mubb


Satchel Pierce

Marial Shayok
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 21, 2014, 07:05:56 PM
Harris will end up at Tech, guaranteed.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Windyplayer on March 21, 2014, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: chapman on March 21, 2014, 07:05:06 PM
Will try to keep this updated.  If you have a Tweet or other source that isn't purely speculative, please post and I'll get it in the OP.


Current Players

Juan Anderson

Deonte Burton - STAYING 
@AndrewGruman: Deonte Burton said this doesn't have any impact on his status at Marquette. Says he's staying.


John Dawson

Luke Fischer

Jajuan Johnson

Todd Mayo

Steve Taylor, Jr.

Derrick Wilson

Duane Wilson - STAYING
Chosen One ‏@SwaggyDu1  37m
We will work harder than ever and to keep the tradition going no matter who they bring in. We will bounce back. #WeAreMarquette #mubb





Recruits

Sandy Cohen

Phillip Flory

Malek Harris

Ahmed Hill

Nick Noskowiak

Satchel Pierce

Marial Shayok

Two solid commitments to the program. Good start!
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Class71 on March 21, 2014, 07:08:37 PM
Quote from: windyplayer on March 21, 2014, 07:06:41 PM
Two solid commitments to the program. Good start!

I expect 2 starters for next year.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 21, 2014, 07:10:09 PM
Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass who goes and who stays. Let it play out
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
Flory is an MU guy I am not concerned. Duane is a popular guy alot of the younguns like him it seems so I think alot of them stay. Luke will stay as he is from here.

Todd will stay he has put up with too much at this school to leave now!

Dawson...back.
Derrick...PLEASE leave oops
Juan....ditto


All recruits God knows
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Marqus Howard on March 21, 2014, 07:12:09 PM
Paint Touches ‏@PaintTouches  1m
2015 commit Nick Noskowiak to PT: "As of right now I am verbally committed to Marquette." #mubb
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: radome on March 21, 2014, 07:13:47 PM
Regardless of all else going on, I truly hope that the players and the recruits heard this from someone in the program. They deserve that.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 21, 2014, 07:14:04 PM
Quote from: JerseyWarrior on March 21, 2014, 07:12:09 PM
Paint Touches ‏@PaintTouches  1m
2015 commit Nick Noskowiak to PT: "As of right now I am verbally committed to Marquette." #mubb


Sounds like he gone
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: ecompt on March 21, 2014, 07:14:09 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
Flory is an MU guy I am not concerned. Duane is a popular guy alot of the younguns like him it seems so I think alot of them stay. Luke will stay as he is from here.

Todd will stay he has put up with too much at this school to leave now!

Dawson...back.
Derrick...PLEASE leave oops
Juan....ditto


All recruits God knows




You are assuming Todd will be eligible to stay
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: mr.MUskie on March 21, 2014, 07:15:22 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 21, 2014, 07:14:04 PM

Sounds like he gone


Yep, that verbal commit not worth the paper it's not written on.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: chapman on March 21, 2014, 07:25:17 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
Dawson...back.
Derrick...PLEASE leave oops
Juan....ditto

Hoping Mr. Dawson can give us confirmation soon.  Really hope John remains at MU.

Derrick, been here three years, one remaining.  Would likely be used in a role better suited for him.  If he wants to stay, he deserves a spot and his degree.

Same goes for Juan.  This Tweet by him is iffy though:

Juan Anderson ‏@juanonjuan10  2h
Y'all seem to forget that this is all a BUSINESS. transfers, jumping jobs, etc. Gotta do what's best for YOU.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 21, 2014, 07:27:12 PM
All business, that's correct. Kinda like puttin' in an honest day's work for an honest paycheck, hey?
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Coleman on March 21, 2014, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: chapman on March 21, 2014, 07:25:17 PM
Hoping Mr. Dawson can give us confirmation soon.  Really hope John remains at MU.

Derrick, been here three years, one remaining.  Would likely be used in a role better suited for him.  If he wants to stay, he deserves a spot and his degree.

Same goes for Juan.  This Tweet by him is iffy though:

Juan Anderson ‏@juanonjuan10  2h
Y'all seem to forget that this is all a BUSINESS. transfers, jumping jobs, etc. Gotta do what's best for YOU.

Jesus Christ, he is a student. This is a business for buzz, not him
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 07:32:10 PM
I asked him how much he was getting paid...


he said "enough"

Kid is an idiot. Good riddance Juan.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 21, 2014, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: chapman on March 21, 2014, 07:25:17 PM

Juan Anderson ‏@juanonjuan10  2h
Y'all seem to forget that this is all a BUSINESS. transfers, jumping jobs, etc. Gotta do what's best for YOU.

Something tells me he didn't run that tweet past the NCAA. A business? Ridiculous. They're student athletes participating on amateur athletics.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Dish on March 21, 2014, 07:40:23 PM
Is Tyshawn Taylor still coming?
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: avid1010 on March 21, 2014, 07:56:47 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 07:32:10 PM
I asked him how much he was getting paid...


he said "enough"

Kid is an idiot. Good riddance Juan.

really?  i would say it's a kid who put a lot of trust in buzz...and is trying to rationalize why buzz left him.  calling him an idiot...well, it makes you look like an idiot. 
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Eldon on March 21, 2014, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 07:32:10 PM
I asked him how much he was getting paid...


he said "enough"

Kid is an idiot. Good riddance Juan.

I interpreted that tweet as a defense of Buzz, not "I'm leaving Marquette."
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 21, 2014, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: chapman on March 21, 2014, 07:25:17 PM
Same goes for Juan.  This Tweet by him is iffy though:

Juan Anderson ‏@juanonjuan10  2h
Y'all seem to forget that this is all a BUSINESS. transfers, jumping jobs, etc. Gotta do what's best for YOU.

This sounds to me like Juan is just commenting on Buzz's motivation/situation.  Buzz gotta do what's best for Buzz.  
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: chapman on March 21, 2014, 08:01:52 PM
Quote from: MUDish on March 21, 2014, 07:40:23 PM
Is Tyshawn Taylor still coming?

On the plus side, we may no longer have a roadblock to recruiting St. Anthony players any longer.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 21, 2014, 08:23:17 PM
I don't fault Nick to state "as of right now"...he's honoring the verbal commitment, but keeping his options open with the new hire.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: jeffreyweee on March 21, 2014, 08:45:29 PM
To be honest, Bane and Duane are the two i wanted back the most. If we can keep JJJ, Fisher and Mayo at minimum then I'll be more than happy. Whoever comes in will have his hands loaded and oozing with talent. Let's get someone with a history of developing talent.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on March 21, 2014, 08:00:30 PM
This sounds to me like Juan is just commenting on Buzz's motivation/situation.  Buzz gotta do what's best for Buzz.  

You think Juan would tweet so senselessly if he was staying?

Juan is gone I almost guarantee it.

Call me an idiot. Defend a guy who is awful and has done nothing for MU basketball. Woopty friggin doo.

Kid said he got paid. He is a moron and he said it on twitter. Let me be clear. He is an IDIOT.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: BM1090 on March 21, 2014, 08:51:53 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
You think Juan would tweet so senselessly if he was staying?

Juan is gone I almost guarantee it.

Call me an idiot. Defend a guy who is awful and has done nothing for MU basketball. Woopty friggin doo.

Kid said he got paid. He is a moron and he said it on twitter. Let me be clear. He is an IDIOT.


sorry, think you're reading way too much into it
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: avid1010 on March 21, 2014, 08:55:51 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
You think Juan would tweet so senselessly if he was staying?

Juan is gone I almost guarantee it.

Call me an idiot. Defend a guy who is awful and has done nothing for MU basketball. Woopty friggin doo.

Kid said he got paid. He is a moron and he said it on twitter. Let me be clear. He is an IDIOT.

he didn't say he got paid...idiot (and that's used because you called a kid who's been nothing but a positive hard worker at MU an idiot).  i'm willing to be he's done more for MU than you have. 
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 09:16:18 PM
How is anything Juan has done a positive????? He is awful at basketball....

I explicitly asked Juan Anderson on twitter...

If it is a business how much do you get paid?


He said "Enough....lol"

As for your saying he has done more for MU than I have...maybe he's scored more points on the basketball court but as a 22 year old alum I will seek to prove you wrong on that one in the coming years
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 21, 2014, 09:17:28 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
You think Juan would tweet so senselessly if he was staying?

Juan is gone I almost guarantee it.

Call me an idiot. Defend a guy who is awful and has done nothing for MU basketball. Woopty friggin doo.

Kid said he got paid. He is a moron and he said it on twitter. Let me be clear. He is an IDIOT.


You "almost guarantee it", what a load of gobbledy gook.  I don't think that you're an idiot.  That's not the proper title for someone who hounds a 20 year old who just got an emotional shock on twitter.  Stalker, that might be it.  Maybe, sick puppy.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 09:21:25 PM
Yeah you know I saw his tweet and said if its a business how much do you get paid and that defines "Hounding"....

When Juan announces his transfer to some school in California I will be pretty happy.

With my job and commute I have so much time to hound Marquette's whole team I just sit in my basement all day talking to them on twitter.


Lets relax.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: ecompt on March 21, 2014, 09:21:33 PM
Juan is a kid, and kids say dumb things sometimes. I am sure he is shocked because Buzz took him back when no one else wanted him.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 21, 2014, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
You think Juan would tweet so senselessly if he was staying?

Juan is gone I almost guarantee it.

Call me an idiot. Defend a guy who is awful and has done nothing for MU basketball. Woopty friggin doo.

Kid said he got paid. He is a moron and he said it on twitter. Let me be clear. He is an IDIOT.


He's just a kid defending his coach..  Hardly a moron, especially if he is in good academic standing.  I think some of us need to step back a bit and get our emotions under control lets we say things we will later regret.  I am proud of all ur guys and it is probably an emotional time for them as well. Shurely their careers are up in the air right now.. lets remember that.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: brandx on March 21, 2014, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
You think Juan would tweet so senselessly if he was staying?

Juan is gone I almost guarantee it.

Call me an idiot. Defend a guy who is awful and has done nothing for MU basketball. Woopty friggin doo.

Kid said he got paid. He is a moron and he said it on twitter. Let me be clear. He is an IDIOT.


Speaking of idiots.... go look in the mirror. You easily get the award for stupidest posts of the day.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 09:26:26 PM
Quote from: elephantraker on March 21, 2014, 09:23:53 PM
He's just a kid defending his coach..  Hardly a moron, especially if he is in good academic standing.  I think some of us need to step back a bit and get our emotions under control lets we say things we will later regret.  I am proud of all ur guys and it is probably an emotional time for them as well. Shurely their careers are up in the air right now.. lets remember that.

Shurely!
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: MUCam on March 21, 2014, 09:27:11 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 09:21:25 PM
Yeah you know I saw his tweet and said if its a business how much do you get paid and that defines "Hounding"....

When Juan announces his transfer to some school in California I will be pretty happy.

With my job and commute I have so much time to hound Marquette's whole team I just sit in my basement all day talking to them on twitter.


Lets relax.

You may want to sit out the rest of this one. Buzz Williams left Marquette. Not Juan. At some point, Juan may leave, but tonight, he isn't the one bolting to Va Tech. There is absolutely no reason to take pot shots against players that may not have reached your heightened expectations just because you are upset at Buzz's departure.

Grow up and act like the Marquette alum that you were hopefully taught to be while at Marquette.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: 🏀 on March 21, 2014, 09:29:18 PM
Quote from: MUCam on March 21, 2014, 09:27:11 PM
You may want to sit out the rest of this one. Buzz Williams left Marquette. Not Juan. At some point, Juan may leave, but tonight, he isn't the one bolting to Va Tech. There is absolutely no reason to take pot shots against players that may not have reached your heightened expectations just because you are upset at Buzz's departure.

Grow up and act like the Marquette alum that you were hopefully taught to be while at Marquette.

+1
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: brandx on March 21, 2014, 09:24:30 PM
Speaking of idiots.... go look in the mirror. You easily get the award for stupidest posts of the day.

I didn't take pot shots at Juan...

I asked how much do you get paid...he said enough.

I said he was an idiot because of that response...more correctly the post was idiotic.

Marquette doesn't exactly preach to you...Now go respect those basketball players. Marquette's curriculum actually doesn't even include religion as a whole outside of freshman year...

If you think a current (as of now) MU player saying he gets paid enough is all kosher and intelligent you can go right on ahead and do it.

If you think Vander Blue punching a kid in the face for being called Vander Orange doesn't make him an idiot you go right on ahead...

20 years old is HARDLY a kid...but if you all believe that that is fine with me. I won't call you an idiot or attack your status as an MU alum for your opinions but you can go ahead and do that to me that works just fine for me.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 21, 2014, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 09:26:26 PM
Shurely!

Awesome how you swatted that olive branch right out elephantraker's hand.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 21, 2014, 11:11:41 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 21, 2014, 07:27:12 PM
All business, that's correct. Kinda like puttin' in an honest day's work for an honest paycheck, hey?
The Butcher, The Baker, The Candlestick maker......blah blah blah

Look out for #1, everyone does it including the person I see in the mirror every morning
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: GB Warrior on March 21, 2014, 11:16:06 PM
The only silver lining on this clusterf*** was the ptospect of Juan transferring, and you guys are telling me it won't happen?

Also, Nick is gone. No doubts. Deals with adversity just like his coach.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: chapman on March 21, 2014, 11:23:15 PM
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on March 21, 2014, 11:16:06 PM
Also, Nick is gone. No doubts. Deals with adversity just like his coach.

By responding that with nothing tying him to pick one way or the other now that he needs to think, rationalize, and without making a rash decision, we should consider his current status unchanged?  Sounds much more stable to me.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: GB Warrior on March 21, 2014, 11:26:17 PM
Quote from: chapman on March 21, 2014, 11:23:15 PM
By responding that with nothing tying him to pick one way or the other now that he needs to think, rationalize, and without making a rash decision, we should consider his current status unchanged?  Sounds much more stable to me.

Would like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he sounds totally unenthused about the prospect of playing at Marquette
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Eldon on March 21, 2014, 11:27:32 PM
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on March 21, 2014, 11:26:17 PM
Would like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he sounds totally unenthused about the prospect of playing at Marquette

Where are you getting this from?  What led you to this conclusion?
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: GB Warrior on March 21, 2014, 11:29:44 PM
Quote from: ElDonBDon on March 21, 2014, 11:27:32 PM
Where are you getting this from?  What led you to this conclusion?

I try not to project tone on Twitter, much less from 16 year olds, but "As of now" isn't exactly a vote of confidence.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: keefe on March 21, 2014, 11:33:22 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 21, 2014, 07:05:56 PM
Harris will end up at Tech, guaranteed.

Malek wants to get an engineering degree, does he?
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 21, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
Wait until we get a new coach, then see how they respond.

Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: NivTastic on March 21, 2014, 11:45:29 PM
Quote from: ecompt on March 21, 2014, 09:21:33 PM
Juan is a kid, and kids say dumb things sometimes. I am sure he is shocked because Buzz took him back when no one else wanted him.

Juan is a kid smarter than Clam Chowder (also a kid).  Would love to see them do tag team long division. 
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: MUSF on March 21, 2014, 11:51:56 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 09:16:18 PM
How is anything Juan has done a positive????? He is awful at basketball....

I explicitly asked Juan Anderson on twitter...

If it is a business how much do you get paid?


He said "Enough....lol"

As for your saying he has done more for MU than I have...maybe he's scored more points on the basketball court but as a 22 year old alum I will seek to prove you wrong on that one in the coming years

Maybe he views the scholarship that pays for his education, room, and board as being "paid enough".

Doesn't seem so idiotic to me.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: brandx on March 21, 2014, 11:58:12 PM
Quote from: MUSF on March 21, 2014, 11:51:56 PM
Maybe he views the scholarship that pays for his education, room, and board as being "paid enough".

Doesn't seem so idiotic to me.

+1. We all saw who the idiot really was in this thread (not Juan).
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: forgetful on March 22, 2014, 12:07:48 AM
Quote from: brandx on March 21, 2014, 09:24:30 PM
Speaking of idiots.... go look in the mirror. You easily get the award for stupidest posts of the day.

This season has accomplished one thing for me.  Never before have I ignored anyone...this year I just have to keep ignoring more people.  Clam goes to the list for the posts in this thread.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: MUSF on March 22, 2014, 12:13:55 AM
Quote from: keefe on March 21, 2014, 11:33:22 PM
Malek wants to get an engineering degree, does he?

This made me laugh. Well done.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Eldon on March 22, 2014, 12:17:07 AM
Quote from: keefe on March 21, 2014, 11:33:22 PM
Malek wants to get an engineering degree, does he?

Yes, but that's because he thinks that the "tech" in Virginia Tech stands for "pyrotechnics."
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 22, 2014, 03:04:47 AM
Let's not forget that Noskowiak said Marquette was his "dream school." I think he is disappointed that Buzz left but I bet he still ends up here. Same goes for Cohen and Fischer.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: murphmurphy on March 22, 2014, 03:15:03 AM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
Flory is an MU guy I am not concerned. Duane is a popular guy alot of the younguns like him it seems so I think alot of them stay. Luke will stay as he is from here.

Todd will stay he has put up with too much at this school to leave now!

Dawson...back.
Derrick...PLEASE leave oops
Juan....ditto


All recruits God knows

I think Derrick and Juan might as well leave if they aren't going to complete a degree because the new MU coach would probably get fired if these two see any game PT.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on March 22, 2014, 04:15:14 AM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 21, 2014, 07:32:55 PM
Something tells me he didn't run that tweet past the NCAA. A business? Ridiculous. They're student athletes participating on amateur athletics.
No they're not. Get real. It is a business...period. He's right. You are being very naive.

Don't make me explain to you plainly that it is a business. He's being real...
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 22, 2014, 05:31:02 AM
Mizzou is all over Hill on twitter

Hoosiers taking pot shots at Luke for leaving
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 22, 2014, 07:15:15 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 22, 2014, 05:31:02 AM
Mizzou is all over Hill on twitter

Hoosiers taking pot shots at Luke for leaving

We should not let them out of their LOI until the new coach gets to talk to them.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 22, 2014, 07:19:19 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 22, 2014, 07:15:15 AM
We should not let them out of their LOI until the new coach gets to talk to them.

That is the way it works.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: martyconlonontherun on March 22, 2014, 07:57:26 AM
You guys are really an entitled bunch here. Yeah it would be cool if a kid honored a commitment but these a re 18 year old kids. What do they owe us? These kids developed a relationship with buzz and the staff. Could you imagine if you were an engineering student and suddenly half the profossers left? Wouldn't you have your doubts about going to that school until you saw how it shook out?
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 22, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on March 22, 2014, 04:15:14 AM
No they're not. Get real. It is a business...period. He's right. You are being very naive.

Don't make me explain to you plainly that it is a business. He's being real...

Teal is for losers.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 22, 2014, 10:00:36 AM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 21, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
You think Juan would tweet so senselessly if he was staying?

Juan is gone I almost guarantee it.

Call me an idiot. Defend a guy who is awful and has done nothing for MU basketball. Woopty friggin doo.

Kid said he got paid. He is a moron and he said it on twitter. Let me be clear. He is an IDIOT.


And you sound like a hot headed kid.  Congrats, you're a moron.  Twitter wars are for kids.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: BM1090 on March 22, 2014, 10:51:43 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 22, 2014, 05:31:02 AM
Mizzou is all over Hill on twitter

Hoosiers taking pot shots at Luke for leaving

I'm not one to encourage talking to recruits on Twitter, but if someone here regularly interacts with our commits it may not be a bad idea to send them a couple tweets
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: MattyWarrior on March 22, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
How many follow Buzz and/or leave? I would think we'll have a lot of scholarships available. 
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 22, 2014, 11:06:47 AM
Quote from: Blueprint on March 22, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
How many follow Buzz and/or leave? I would think we'll have a lot of scholarships available.  
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on March 22, 2014, 10:51:43 AM
I'm not one to encourage talking to recruits on Twitter, but if someone here regularly interacts with our commits it may not be a bad idea to send them a couple tweets

Nothing will happen until we name the new coach and he talks to his players.  Then things will move in a hurry.

Could be a mass exodus.  Could be minimal.  Tell me who our coach is next weekend and I'll tell you which it will be.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Goose on March 22, 2014, 11:07:24 AM
Let a new guy decide who he wants. Guys leaving today but change their minds when new coach comes. Change is always opportunity IMO.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 22, 2014, 11:09:55 AM
Nothing is Constant but Change
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 22, 2014, 11:10:15 AM
Quote from: Goose on March 22, 2014, 11:07:24 AM
Let a new guy decide who he wants. Guys leaving today but change their minds when new coach comes. Change is always opportunity IMO.

They cannot leave today.  They are "under contract" via a NLI or scholarship.  They have to be formally released by MU before they can leave, and we can place restrictions on where they go (i.e., no BE or Wisc)
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Goose on March 22, 2014, 11:12:10 AM
Heisenberg

I know, just saying let dust settle. Lot can happen in a week period. We might be in better place next Saturday.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: jsglow on March 22, 2014, 11:33:39 AM
Personally, building a team around Bane, Duane and probably Luke (wouldn't he need to sit ANOTHER year if he left) is a great start.

I want to avoid the notion that MU basketball is always about the coach.  Nobody has a greater commitment other than Duke.  Our new coach will be very well paid, have world class facilities, fly via private jet to see recruits, and have the full attention of the Marquette community.  For whatever reason, it wasn't for Buzz anymore and he's having breakfast at Waffle House right now.  If any existing player feels the same way once the new coach is hired, that's okay too.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Goose on March 22, 2014, 11:35:39 AM
jsglow


+1
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: MUAlum99 on March 22, 2014, 11:44:48 AM
@GravettMatt (Twitter) saying Malek Harris will follow Buzz to VaTech
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: tower912 on March 22, 2014, 11:48:13 AM
Depending on who the hire is, it could be brutal.    No point in obsessing about it.   Embrace the stink. 
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 22, 2014, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: MUAlum99 on March 22, 2014, 11:44:48 AM
@GravettMatt (Twitter) saying Malek Harris will follow Buzz to VaTech

Time to unfollow. LOL
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: marquette09 on March 22, 2014, 12:05:10 PM
Quote from: MUAlum99 on March 22, 2014, 11:44:48 AM
@GravettMatt (Twitter) saying Malek Harris will follow Buzz to VaTech

Can't say I'm shocked
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: vacinator on March 22, 2014, 12:09:32 PM
Did MU really want a kid who was kicked off his HS team?
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: insidetheleague on March 22, 2014, 12:15:40 PM
Marquette Basketball is in trouble unless they can pull off a big name coach who can bring in his own culture and rebuild the program his way. The players didn't go to Marquette to play in Milwaukee or to play in the Bradley Center. They certainly didn't go to Marquette to play for the most 2 way fans. They went to Marquette to play for Coach Buzz. And now that Buzz and the entire coaching staff are out, players who have options are going to leave as well. The program needs to have a sense of urgency in order to retain a high level of play.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Markusquette on March 22, 2014, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: insidetheleague on March 22, 2014, 12:15:40 PM
Marquette Basketball is in trouble unless they can pull off a big name coach who can bring in his own culture and rebuild the program his way. The players didn't go to Marquette to play in Milwaukee or to play in the Bradley Center. They certainly didn't go to Marquette to play for the most 2 way fans. They went to Marquette to play for Coach Buzz. And now that Buzz and the entire coaching staff are out, players who have options are going to leave as well. The program needs to have a sense of urgency in order to retain a high level of play.

The players still have a lot even without Buzz.  It's a setback, but if they value camaraderie and their teammates I see most of them sticking together.  We still have one of the best basketball programs in the nation with or without Buzz.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: cheebs09 on March 22, 2014, 01:16:21 PM
Buzz's first year the team really bonded together and had a great year. Granted with the Amigos it's a different situation, but it sounds like this team was lacking some chemistry. Maybe give them a common stick it to Buzz mantra and a good coach and we could have a bounceback year.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Class71 on March 22, 2014, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: vacinator on March 22, 2014, 12:09:32 PM
Did MU really want a kid who was kicked off his HS team?

Were we not over on schollies? Remember if Buzz were here next year as a freshman he would not have played. Do not know about the HS issues, if they were so significant or not.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: cheebs09 on March 22, 2014, 01:26:30 PM
The one downside of Howland would be him not having any recruits to take with him. However, I think his name and resume would keep some recruits around though.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Norm on March 22, 2014, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: insidetheleague on March 22, 2014, 12:15:40 PM
Marquette Basketball is in trouble unless they can pull off a big name coach who can bring in his own culture and rebuild the program his way. The players didn't go to Marquette to play in Milwaukee or to play in the Bradley Center. They certainly didn't go to Marquette to play for the most 2 way fans. They went to Marquette to play for Coach Buzz. And now that Buzz and the entire coaching staff are out, players who have options are going to leave as well. The program needs to have a sense of urgency in order to retain a high level of play.
"The most 2 ways fans"? Are you kidding? Marquette has a pretty steady fans base and one of the highest attendance in college basketball most every year.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Eldon on March 22, 2014, 01:47:29 PM
Quote from: Norm on March 22, 2014, 01:44:12 PM
"The most 2 ways fans"? Are you kidding? Marquette has a pretty steady fans base and one of the highest attendance in college basketball most every year.

I remember insidetheleague posted some stuff about NBA interest in Trent Lockett and many blew him off.  Then Lockett was the last guy cut from the Kings.  So I'm inclined to put some stock into what he says.

However, I'm not sure what the "2 way fans" comment means.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: tower912 on March 22, 2014, 02:12:57 PM
I wouldn't dismiss insidetheleague.    There was a fair amount of turnover from Crean to Buzz.   This time, with so much tied up with an incoming class that were all Buzz's kind of guys......could be ugly.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 22, 2014, 03:21:03 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 22, 2014, 02:12:57 PM
I wouldn't dismiss insidetheleague.    There was a fair amount of turnover from Crean to Buzz.   This time, with so much tied up with an incoming class that were all Buzz's kind of guys......could be ugly.

To be honest if Marial, and Peirce leave im ok with that. Wanna see Hill and Cohen stick around though.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 22, 2014, 03:43:31 PM
Quote from: insidetheleague on March 22, 2014, 12:15:40 PM
Marquette Basketball is in trouble unless they can pull off a big name coach who can bring in his own culture and rebuild the program his way. The players didn't go to Marquette to play in Milwaukee or to play in the Bradley Center. They certainly didn't go to Marquette to play for the most 2 way fans. They went to Marquette to play for Coach Buzz. And now that Buzz and the entire coaching staff are out, players who have options are going to leave as well. The program needs to have a sense of urgency in order to retain a high level of play.

I think that the fate of the assistant coaches is still to be determined, not that they are out.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: insidetheleague on March 22, 2014, 04:27:02 PM
The assistants are following Buzz to VT. The players found out yesterday. And by 2 way fans, I'm talking about the people they see on twitter and in person who love them one minute and rip them apart another. I have seen it first hand, it's difficult for these college kids to restrain but they always do. Vander had it worst which is one the main reasons he had to leave.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: nyg on March 22, 2014, 04:33:46 PM
Quote from: insidetheleague on March 22, 2014, 04:27:02 PM
The assistants are following Buzz to VT. The players found out yesterday. And by 2 way fans, I'm talking about the people they see on twitter and in person who love them one minute and rip them apart another. I have seen it first hand, it's difficult for these college kids to restrain but they always do. Vander had it worst which is one the main reasons he had to leave.

Well, hate to see Chew leave.  Hope someone in B-ball is contacting the signed recruits and telling them all will be OK. 
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: willie warrior on March 22, 2014, 04:59:05 PM
Quote from: insidetheleague on March 22, 2014, 04:27:02 PM
The assistants are following Buzz to VT. The players found out yesterday. And by 2 way fans, I'm talking about the people they see on twitter and in person who love them one minute and rip them apart another. I have seen it first hand, it's difficult for these college kids to restrain but they always do. Vander had it worst which is one the main reasons he had to leave.
Man, if true, Buzz is even a bigger douche than I give him credit for. taking the whole gang with him? Talk about "I'm out of here"--everybody's boy Buzz leaving the cupboard bare. PLEASE take derrick with you--after all, he is a "game changer"
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: tower912 on March 22, 2014, 05:32:29 PM
Players tend to commit to coaches, not institutions.   There was fallout when Crean left.   It is naive to think that there will be none this time.   
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: MUSF on March 22, 2014, 05:37:17 PM
Quote from: insidetheleague on March 22, 2014, 12:15:40 PM
Marquette Basketball is in trouble unless they can pull off a big name coach who can bring in his own culture and rebuild the program his way. The players didn't go to Marquette to play in Milwaukee or to play in the Bradley Center. They certainly didn't go to Marquette to play for the most 2 way fans. They went to Marquette to play for Coach Buzz. And now that Buzz and the entire coaching staff are out, players who have options are going to leave as well. The program needs to have a sense of urgency in order to retain a high level of play.

So many people believed the exact same thing six years ago when Crean left. We ended up being just fine with an unproven assistant. I bet we'll be okay this time too.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: TheFarEastMovement on March 22, 2014, 06:15:59 PM
"Marquette Basketball is in trouble unless they can pull off a big name coach who can bring in his own culture and rebuild the program his way. The players didn't go to Marquette to play in Milwaukee or to play in the Bradley Center. They certainly didn't go to Marquette to play for the most 2 way fans. They went to Marquette to play for Coach Buzz. And now that Buzz and the entire coaching staff are out, players who have options are going to leave as well. The program needs to have a sense of urgency in order to retain a high level of play."

I agree with this. Based on my previous interactions with some of the basketball players in the past and some of their twitter posts, a lot of these players do not really come to MU because of the institution or the city. It is largely due to the coach and Buzz did a great job recruiting. I hate to sound like a debbie downer but the sad reality is that Milwaukee is not a big market city with flashy lights, the winters are cold and there isn't much going on. One can make the argument that not much is going on in Durham, North Carolina or Louisville, Kentucky but they have legendary coaches. Whoever gets this job has a huge task of placing MU on the MAP and staying here for a while and ensuring that there is some sort of stability. To start with, we have on of the best fan bases in the nation. Now the administration needs to step it up in hiring someone that believes in the tradition, values and who are they are willing to support. Hiring an alum like Wardle might be a starting point even though he is not completely proven. Hiring Howland is another option as he will probably stay 10+, since he is already 57 and knows the pressure involved in coaching a premier program like UCLA.  It could be his last stint as basketball coach. He could possibly play the same role Steve Fisher is playing for SDSU. Personally, I am all in for Howland. At this point, it is about gaining some stability within our basketball program.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: Earl Tatum on March 22, 2014, 06:56:43 PM
We need stability and get rid that freakin' name. It's WARRIORS!
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: JustinLewisFanClubPres on March 22, 2014, 07:05:23 PM
I'm surprised that so many of us are shocked that the assistants would leave. Assistants, even moreso than head coaches, are mercenaries. They'll go wherever they think is best to ultimately get them a HC position. That's not at MU with no head coach in place.  Our new coach will bring in his assistants and it's better that way.

Does anyone here think that Isaac Chew cares about any school he coaches at? He left Illinois after 2 weeks for Marquette.
Title: Re: Status Thread: Players Eligible To Return and Committed Recruits
Post by: BCHoopster on March 23, 2014, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: MU7703 on March 22, 2014, 07:05:23 PM
I'm surprised that so many of us are shocked that the assistants would leave. Assistants, even moreso than head coaches, are mercenaries. They'll go wherever they think is best to ultimately get them a HC position. That's not at MU with no head coach in place.  Our new coach will bring in his assistants and it's better that way.

Does anyone here think that Isaac Chew cares about any school he coaches at? He left Illinois after 2 weeks for Marquette.

Chew had a deal at MU that was second to none as an assistant, I think if he gets an increase in this salary to stay, he might.  He is a Chicago kid, who wants to go to Vtech from Chicago, I would say nobody.  The school drew 5,000 fans last year, that is not big time basketball, not even close.
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