I know how bad this board got after Providence.
Please be civil. Tough loss and a tough season. That's all I can say.
But this is the internet!!!
But I had our game-plan for Creighton all figured out too!
Darn. Ehh, I hope we play Indiana somehow.
+1
The team battled tonight. Very entertaining game.
I enjoyed watching the last three games. Twas a shame that we lost them. Looking forward to an NIT run!
I am not entertained by losses in March. In December, maybe, in March any loss sucks.
How's this for civil...I thought we played really, really well tonight. Burton, Derrick, Mayo all had great games. We lost. They beat us. We are not that good and that's that. I look forward to an NIT bid, which I hope is forthcoming.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 13, 2014, 10:53:43 PM
+1
The team battled tonight. Very entertaining game.
If that's what it's come to...being satisfied that it was an entertaining game....then this program has gone pretty far downhill. Xavier is no powerhouse, and a decent game from MU would have won. But MU is no better in it's last game than it was in it's first.
It was a good game. Saw tonight that some of the seniors leaving really might not be the worst thing. The FT shots summed up alot of Jamil this year. That should have been an insult to him. Instead he made Mack look like a genius.
Todd can be THE GUY next year. We needed someone to be THE GUY this year and he did it for us the last 3 games. It is time for the Mayo and Burton show and I am pretty excited for that.
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:55:25 PM
If that's what it's come to...being satisfied that it was an entertaining game....then this program has gone pretty far downhill. Xavier is no powerhouse, and a decent game from MU would have won. But MU is no better in it's last game than it was in it's first.
Dude, we played pretty well tonight. X played better...and they got away with a cheap shot by Reynolds
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:55:25 PM
If that's what it's come to...being satisfied that it was an entertaining game....then this program has gone pretty far downhill. Xavier is no powerhouse, and a decent game from MU would have won. But MU is no better in it's last game than it was in it's first.
Uh...Xavier's got two Elite 8s and three Sweet 16s in the last ten years. MU?
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:55:25 PM
If that's what it's come to...being satisfied that it was an entertaining game....then this program has gone pretty far downhill. Xavier is no powerhouse, and a decent game from MU would have won. But MU is no better in it's last game than it was in it's first.
It's come down to the realization of what the talent-level and potential of this year's team was. The team had numerous weaknesses. They lacked that go-to leader, not only at the end of games, but that motivated the team through rough patches. We were a poor shooting 3-point shooting team. We had a poor offensive back court. We couldn't defend the 3. We were not special defensively. We couldn't beat any tournament teams. We couldn't win the tight games that we used to win with ease in year's past.
All that being said, I still loved watching this year's team. It was different, yet very special. A lot of flawed pieces were mixed and mashed to try and find that winning combo. There just wasn't one.
Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 13, 2014, 10:57:05 PM
It was a good game. Saw tonight that some of the seniors leaving really might not be the worst thing. The FT shots summed up alot of Jamil this year. That should have been an insult to him. Instead he made Mack look like a genius.
Todd can be THE GUY next year. We needed someone to be THE GUY this year and he did it for us the last 3 games. It is time for the Mayo and Burton show and I am pretty excited for that.
Will Buzz allow him to be the guy (plural)? I want desperately to believe that!
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 13, 2014, 10:54:44 PM
We are not that good and that's that.
This is it. Despite people wanting to believe that the back-up QB is going to lead the team to a Superbowl, this team just is not that good. There are a lot of reasons for it and a lot of blame to pass around. Ultimately, it has been a great ride for awhile, but I suppose we were due for a down year.
The junior and sophomore classes were useless and the senior class underachieved. The frosh were benched. I don't know how this season got us any closer to being an above average team. Ultimately, I disagree that this was a fun team to watch. Too frustrating.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on March 13, 2014, 11:15:57 PM
The junior and sophomore classes were useless and the senior class underachieved. The frosh were benched. I don't know how this season got us any closer to being an above average team. Ultimately, I disagree that this was a fun team to watch. Too frustrating.
Mayo was "useless?"
Correction: Mayo was solid. Wished he was a starter and regular offensive option.
Thanks hoopers for giving it a go all year, in the end they were over-rated and under performed BUT not for lack of effort. We are still Marquette
Let's go next year, future is bright if none of the frosh decide to bail on MU and if Buzz learns some coaching lessons and sticks around
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 13, 2014, 10:54:44 PM
How's this for civil...I thought we played really, really well tonight. Burton, Derrick, Mayo all had great games. We lost. They beat us. We are not that good and that's that. I look forward to an NIT bid, which I hope is forthcoming.
It's comments like these that inspire incivility.
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 13, 2014, 11:07:30 PM
Will Buzz allow him to be the guy (plural)? I want desperately to believe that!
I think Buzz would allow Mayo to be the guy as long as he doesn't screw-up academically, etc. I think Mayo would have played more earlier in the year if not for the ankle injury that kept him out for a week or two? And probably slowed his practice/development, plus the suspension for whatever it was, late to practice?
Is Jamil still on the team?
Oh wait ... that probably wasn't civil.
Quote from: newsdrms on March 13, 2014, 11:32:05 PM
I think Buzz would allow Mayo to be the guy as long as he doesn't screw-up academically, etc. I think Mayo would have played more earlier in the year if not for the ankle injury that kept him out for a week or two? And probably slowed his practice/development, plus the suspension for whatever it was, late to practice?
I have the faith in Buzz that he will allow that to happen. A learning year for everyone.
Quote from: BenCat12 on March 13, 2014, 11:23:39 PM
It's comments like these that inspire incivility.
+1000 - and are what spawn the debate...I didn't chime in on it because of who posted it...
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 13, 2014, 10:54:44 PM
How's this for civil...I thought we played really, really well tonight. Burton, Derrick, Mayo all had great games. We lost. They beat us. We are not that good and that's that. I look forward to an NIT bid, which I hope is forthcoming.
Civil. And accurate.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 13, 2014, 11:50:19 PM
Civil. And accurate.
::) You mean civil and inaccurate
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 13, 2014, 11:50:19 PM
Civil. And accurate.
Do you genuinely believe Derrick played a great game tonight Lenny? I certainly can say he played better than he has the last 3 outings...but I cannot call tonight's performance anything better than serviceable...
Yes thank you
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 13, 2014, 11:50:19 PM
Civil. And accurate.
Tend to agree, though "great" is not how I would describe DWill. Thought DWill played pretty well, not great, but pretty well.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 13, 2014, 10:54:44 PM
How's this for civil...I thought we played really, really well tonight. Burton, Derrick, Mayo all had great games. We lost. They beat us. We are not that good and that's that. I look forward to an NIT bid, which I hope is forthcoming.
No matter what I do not look forward to the NIT. In some ways I would prefer to decline but know that honor dictates otherwise.
There is a great scene in one of the last episodes of Band of Brothers where the victorious Americans are driving eastward while the Wehrmacht marches westward. The Maj. Winters character notes their dignity even in defeat. There is nobility in honor that no defeat can ever erase.
Quote from: newsdrms on March 13, 2014, 11:32:05 PM
I think Buzz would allow Mayo to be the guy as long as he doesn't screw-up academically, etc. I think Mayo would have played more earlier in the year if not for the ankle injury that kept him out for a week or two? And probably slowed his practice/development, plus the suspension for whatever it was, late to practice?
Mayo had a great second half of the season, but until he learns to play in control the whole game and quit trying to drive to the hole with 3 or 4 defenders there, he will still have poor games. Mayo and Burton will have to be our go to guys next year, but when Derrick is still playing 35 minutes at PG, we will struggle even more than this year.
Quote from: Automatic, 77% of the time on March 13, 2014, 10:52:16 PM
I know how bad this board got after Providence.
Please be civil. Tough loss and a tough season. That's all I can say.
Congrats on your first post
Quote from: willie warrior on March 14, 2014, 06:40:12 AM
Mayo had a great second half of the season, but until he learns to play in control the whole game and quit trying to drive to the hole with 3 or 4 defenders there, he will still have poor games. Mayo and Burton will have to be our go to guys next year, but when Derrick is still playing 35 minutes at PG, we will struggle even more than this year.
While I don't disagree, Mayo is one of the few guys out there trying to initiate offense. Sometimes he forces it, but he's not often presented with a better alternative.
For example, at some point in the 1H last night, we were doing our usual three man weave at the top of the key and JT ended up with the ball deep into the shot clock. He couldn't find the perfect shot, so he deferred to Derrick, a high character kid that lacks the ability to run a competent D1 offense. Derrick left Todd holding the bag w/ about 3-4 seconds left on the clock, resulting in a turnover and subsequent substitution for Todd.
Quote from: PistolPete on March 14, 2014, 11:35:42 AM
While I don't disagree, Mayo is one of the few guys out there trying to initiate offense. Sometimes he forces it, but he's not often presented with a better alternative.
For example, at some point in the 1H last night, we were doing our usual three man weave at the top of the key and JT ended up with the ball deep into the shot clock. He couldn't find the perfect shot, so he deferred to Derrick, a high character kid that lacks the ability to run a competent D1 offense. Derrick left Todd holding the bag w/ about 3-4 seconds left on the clock, resulting in a turnover and subsequent substitution for Todd.
We agree. If Mayo learns not to force the O when it isn't there, then he can become a really good player. He is not there quite yet.