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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: River rat on February 26, 2014, 11:10:00 AM
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Play a college player 1 game after getting a DUI?
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Don't know--who has? Can't imagine Shady has with all the talent he has to slide in there.
Let's see: Maybe Crean has, maybe Coach K, but sure don't know.
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A DUI is one thing, but he was at least 2x over the limit and it was 4am in the middle of the week. How much does a 6'8" 240 lb man have to drink to blow over .15?
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......is this Marquette related? Who had a DUI?
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......is this Marquette related? Who had a DUI?
Player for Indiana was suspended for one game and was reinstated to play against Wisconsin last night.
He logged two minutes.
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Player for Indiana was suspended for one game and was reinstated to play against Wisconsin last night.
He logged two minutes.
How come I was able to take a stab in the dark on Crean and come up with the right answer? Just something about the tanned one, I guess.
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A DUI is one thing, but he was at least 2x over the limit and it was 4am in the middle of the week. How much does a 6'8" 240 lb man have to drink to blow over .15?
I'd go with your screen name. Yes, the whole bar.
Hey, ZFB, wake up 4ever. He's not going to want to miss this.
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To be fair, he sat him out 2 games and the kid did everything he was asked to do for almost 11 whole days.
This is a strange decision, particularly considering the guy isn't a prime rotation guy and playing him or not playing him won't make a difference in Indiana's W-L record this season. So you really can't say he's doing it for competitive advantage. I agree that it doesn't send the right message. I'm sure Crean has his reasons, though I can't figure what they are.
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Dakich had a few issues about it on the broadcast last night. He felt no way the IN faithful would be behind the short suspension and that Crean's "the kid did everything he was asked to do" was a joke as in "What about before the DUI?".
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what did they ask him to? #1-don't drink #2-don't drink and drive #3-go to class #4-study #5-don't beat your girlfriend #6-study your playbook
#7-..............
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To be fair, he sat him out 2 games and the kid did everything he was asked to do for almost 11 whole days.
This is a strange decision, particularly considering the guy isn't a prime rotation guy and playing him or not playing him won't make a difference in Indiana's W-L record this season. So you really can't say he's doing it for competitive advantage. I agree that it doesn't send the right message. I'm sure Crean has his reasons, though I can't figure what they are.
In the two games included one gae that was never played and he will most likely play in when it is eventually played. Pathitic, but hen again we are talking about Clappy the Clown.
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The Tommy Naismith school of coaching day 1:
ok now watch me class.
Crouch down and clap a bunch of times. Stand up and adjust your ill fitting Chess King pants, adjust your glasses and walk to the end of the bench clapping while you walk. Crouch down again and give a befuddled look while you do nothing as your team blows yet another second half lead, but keep clapping. Stand up again, adjust pants and glasses, keep clapping and walk to the front of the bench again. Kneel down and instruct your PG to dribble in place for 30 seconds before calling one of your 1000 amazing plays. Keep clapping.
Now repeat.
and remember if you lose completely blame your players becuase thats what great coaches and leaders do.
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In the two games included one gae that was never played and he will most likely play in when it is eventually played. Pathitic, but hen again we are talking about Clappy the Clown.
No, he sat out two games, the Purdue game on the 15th and the Northwestern game on the 22nd. I think this is interesting because I can't figure what is in it for TC to bring the kid back so soon. It makes him look bad and it doesn't really help Indiana on the court all that much.
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The Tommy Naismith school of coaching day 1:
ok now watch me class.
Crouch down and clap a bunch of times. Stand up and adjust your ill fitting Chess King pants, adjust your glasses and walk to the end of the bench clapping while you walk. Crouch down again and give a befuddled look while you do nothing as your team blows yet another second half lead, but keep clapping. Stand up again, adjust pants and glasses, keep clapping and walk to the front of the bench again. Kneel down and instruct your PG to dribble in place for 30 seconds before calling one of your 1000 amazing plays. Keep clapping.
Now repeat.
and remember if you lose completely blame your players becuase thats what great coaches and leaders do.
Where's the Diet Pepsi? Or Coke? And no 3 man weave up top until a desperation 3 pointer goes up at the end of the shot clock? Things they are a'changin'!
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Play a college player 1 game after getting a DUI?
Seven.
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Play a college player 1 game after getting a DUI?
None.
Who are you implying did? I could not tell with the third grade spelling you used above.
I read recently of an adult player (over the age of 21) that was arrested for a misdemeanor DUI and was suspended indefinitely and missed two games, would have missed three but one was canceled. Instead played in what would have been the 4th game for 2 minutes.
Not sure if that is who you were referencing. If you are having trouble reading this, I'll write in a language you can understand based on your other inputs.
Nun
Who r you implieing did? I could not tell with the 3rd grade spelling you used above.
I read recently of an adult payer (ovr the age of 21) that was arested for a mesdeamor DUI who was supended indifinitly and missed 2 games, would have mised 3 but one was cancelled. Instaed played in what should have been his 4th game for 2 minuts.
Not sure if that is who you were refarancing.
River Rat, the first to question someone's facts. LOL
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Chicos to Tommy's rescue, like the sun in the East. Maybe some day you can describe those reach arounds you used to enjoy, maybe over a beer?
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Chicos to Tommy's rescue, like the sun in the East. Maybe some day you can describe those reach arounds you used to enjoy, maybe over a beer?
An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.
I'm sure Chicos' amorous engagements with TC are relevant to some argument, but I don't think it's this one.
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BTW dude, broads is not the preferred nomenclature anymore...
Chicks?
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An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.
I'm sure Chicos' amorous engagements with TC are relevant to some argument, but I don't think it's this one.
Umm my original claim was dead on... What lack of character slimeball brings a kid back after getting pulled over at twice the limit at 4 am?? It grabbed national discussion!
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None.
Who are you implying did? I could not tell with the third grade spelling you used above.
I read recently of an adult player (over the age of 21) that was arrested for a misdemeanor DUI and was suspended indefinitely and missed two games, would have missed three but one was canceled. Instead played in what would have been the 4th game for 2 minutes.
Not sure if that is who you were referencing. If you are having trouble reading this, I'll write in a language you can understand based on your other inputs.
Nun
Who r you implieing did? I could not tell with the 3rd grade spelling you used above.
I read recently of an adult payer (ovr the age of 21) that was arested for a mesdeamor DUI who was supended indifinitly and missed 2 games, would have mised 3 but one was cancelled. Instaed played in what should have been his 4th game for 2 minuts.
Not sure if that is who you were refarancing.
River Rat, the first to question someone's facts. LOL
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None.
Who are you implying did? I could not tell with the third grade spelling you used above.
I read recently of an adult player (over the age of 21) that was arrested for a misdemeanor DUI and was suspended indefinitely and missed two games, would have missed three but one was canceled. Instead played in what would have been the 4th game for 2 minutes.
Wow, what a downplay. If this happened at MU you'd be shrieking that Buzz is bringing in low-characters guys and tarnishing the sanctitiy of the program and your degree. And if it was a JUCO player at MU your keyboard would explode. Talk about hypocrisy, coming from the one who claims to fight the good fight against it.
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No, he sat out two games, the Purdue game on the 15th and the Northwestern game on the 22nd. I think this is interesting because I can't figure what is in it for TC to bring the kid back so soon. It makes him look bad and it doesn't really help Indiana on the court all that much.
Yeah I agree with this. Bizarre decision, when it was definitely an opportunity to save face with fans by falling back on the "at least I run a clean, high character program" card by holding him out longer. It's not like he's a major factor for them anyway.
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Umm my original claim was dead on... What lack of character slimeball brings a kid back after getting pulled over at twice the limit at 4 am?? It grabbed national discussion!
What should he have done? Kick him off the team? Suspend him for a season?
Tell us for the record what you think a good high character coach should do? If he made the wrong decision, what's the right one?
I guess I understand your perspective but the judgmental vitriol you are spewing, without any inside knowledge of the situation, is over the top. There are fans of other schools that use this same language to describe our coach. I think they are completely off base, but just like you they cherry pick some unsavory events and make a logical leap to justify painting Buzz with the same slimeball brush.
BTW, I think you missed the point of my last thread.
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Chicos to Tommy's rescue, like the sun in the East. Maybe some day you can describe those reach arounds you used to enjoy, maybe over a beer?
Robbie, here's the deal. You got quite bent the last couple of days claiming a lack of facts by posters. Each time, you were shown to be in error. Again, with this thread, you are wrong again with your facts. You are then corrected with the facts, and you response is like a 15 year old boy talking about reach arounds. You were just wrong, again. No one is coming to anyone's rescue, just pointing out that in your obsession with that coach and in your daily tantrums to take him down, you can't even do it properly without distorting facts, making really bad boners, or maybe just lying (one would assume you are just stupid and not intentionally making things up, but is anyone really that stupid?)
I'd love to know what the Sun in the East is doing...is it rising or setting?
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What should he have done? Kick him off the team? Suspend him for a season?
Tell us for the record what you think a good high character coach should do? If he made the wrong decision, what's the right one?
I guess I understand your perspective but the judgmental vitriol you are spewing, without any inside knowledge of the situation, is over the top. There are fans of other schools that use this same language to describe our coach. I think they are completely off base, but just like you they cherry pick some unsavory events and make a logical leap to justify painting Buzz with the same slimeball brush.
BTW, I think you missed the point of my last thread.
I'm not going to decide whether Crean is in the wrong here or not, but what "inside knowledge of the situation" does one need when the kid was driving a car while being intoxicated to the point of being nearly 2 times the legal limit? Under no circumstances is that okay. That is incredibly serious and he is very lucky it did not lead to something way more serious (the serious injury or death of someone else or himself). In this case, I don't think "inside knowledge of the situation" is needed to come up with an opinion of your own on the situation.
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How come I was able to take a stab in the dark on Crean and come up with the right answer?
This is MUSCOOP; you should be surprised if a thread is started about anyone other than Crean.
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You are then corrected with the facts, and you response is like a 15 year old boy talking about reach arounds.
If you are having trouble reading this, I'll write in a language you can understand based on your other inputs.
Nun
Who r you implieing did? I could not tell with the 3rd grade spelling you used above.
I read recently of an adult payer (ovr the age of 21) that was arested for a mesdeamor DUI who was supended indifinitly and missed 2 games, would have mised 3 but one was cancelled. Instaed played in what should have been his 4th game for 2 minuts.
Not sure if that is who you were refarancing.
River Rat, the first to question someone's facts. LOL
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Umm my original claim was dead on... What lack of character slimeball brings a kid back after getting pulled over at twice the limit at 4 am?? It grabbed national discussion!
Grabbed national attention....so did two sexual assault accusations. So did a bunch of MU players underage at a club serving alcohol and fighting http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7784847/six-marquette-golden-eagles-players-were-fight-club-police-report-says. So on and so forth.
Your original claim was not dead on, it included incorrect facts...it couldn't have been more dead wrong.
Now let's get at the root of it all. No one condones drinking while driving...no one. Why don't you tell us what the proper punishment should have been? Then, if you will, tell us what the punishments should be for say, punching your girlfriend. Or, punching a student as a player. How about underage drinking. Sexual assault. Driving under the influence. Etc. That way we can have a handbook available, since all of these things have happened to MU players some recently and some further in the past.
What's missing for these punishments by MU or IU or whomever ..... what else is going on? What other treatment or punishment are they going through....information none of us is privy too.
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You cant claim buzz is shady and then over look your boyfriend. Can you wax poetic again about mu's failures when we had 3 all americans. Your trolling about all of mu's downfalls is pathetic n a true reflection on your character. Again you had a whole thread on how mu failed with 3 burger boys please expound....
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Trolling? You clearly don't understand the word. Starting a thread like you did with this one, is a trolling thread.
Using incorrect information just adds to it. You were wrong in this thread with your information. Wrong about the McD's information. Wrong about business owner. You've made quite a comeback. Pat yourself on the back.
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You still have not explained why you claimed that Mu missed the tourney with 3 mcdonalds all americans when that was never the case?
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You still have not explained why you claimed that Mu missed the tourney with 3 mcdonalds all americans when that was never the case?
Holy smokes. First off, I never said they missed the tournament. Please..R E A D.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39824.msg574804#msg574804
Second, I said having McD's All-Americans doesn't guarantee success and I gave MU as an example.
Finally, yes, I did explain quite clearly that the success wasn't there...one NCAA tournament win while we had these guys. In some years we had 2, in some years only one, but in total those three McD's All-Americans produced 1 NCAA tournament win. In fact, other posters also explained it for you as well. I'm not sure what you aren't processing.
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Cowards insinuate n then back off
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Cowards insinuate n then back off
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Cowards insinuate n then back off
You've outdone yourself. Start a thread with falsehoods...flat out wrong facts which you have been called out on repeatedly, and then you finish it in this fashion.
Bravo
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I hope this thread doesnt get locked....it is quite amusing!
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Should be a great walleye run this spring.
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Should be a great walleye run this spring.
I'm worried we will still have ice for our opener in May.
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Where u live?
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Where u live?
Minnesota. Fish WI and Ontario too.
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Oh nice, i hit spooner area each year n usually a bwca trip. Also will hit ashland n sturgeon bay this summer for bronze backs
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Oh nice, i hit spooner area each year n usually a bwca trip. Also will hit ashland n sturgeon bay this summer for bronze backs
I know the area well.
At our cabin, we catch 4-5 pound smallies by accident on lindey rigs going after Waldo. We are 45 min north of Spooner.
In spooner, I have access to a lake with monster bluegills. My favorite fish.
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Wonder what "he has done everything we've asked him to" means?
"Yes, for the past several days he has not gotten blitzed and hopped in a car... he's gone to class and came to practice. We are so thankful."
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I know the area well.
At our cabin, we catch 4-5 pound smallies by accident on lindey rigs going after Waldo. We are 45 min north of Spooner.
In spooner, I have access to a lake with monster bluegills. My favorite fish.
Care to share any spots in the spooner area? I have been going for tge last three years, but the cabin i go to has a boat so we r restricted to that lake. Good pike, crappie n LMB fishing but i am gonna take my boat this year and have no clue where to go
Any help would be much appreciated
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Wonder what "he has done everything we've asked him to" means?
Standard reply from coaches of kids suspended.....I guess the wondering is out there often. ;)
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/2013/12/14/notre-dame-coach-welcomes-back-golson/4025327/
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/gators-set-return-suspended-wilbekin-192106345--ncaab.html
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24024000/justin-blackmon-set-to-return-after-4game-suspension
http://acc.blogs.starnewsonline.com/32175/suspension-served-c-j-wilson-ready-to-return-for-wolfpack/
http://nypost.com/2013/04/28/j-r-s-suspension-complicates-knicks-sweep/
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Standard reply from coaches of kids suspended.....I guess the wondering is out there often. ;)
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/2013/12/14/notre-dame-coach-welcomes-back-golson/4025327/
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/gators-set-return-suspended-wilbekin-192106345--ncaab.html
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24024000/justin-blackmon-set-to-return-after-4game-suspension
http://acc.blogs.starnewsonline.com/32175/suspension-served-c-j-wilson-ready-to-return-for-wolfpack/
http://nypost.com/2013/04/28/j-r-s-suspension-complicates-knicks-sweep/
You always deflect questions with a "two wrongs make a right".
Every situation is different in life.
In the case of Hanner, what do you think it means? I think what you're saying is that Crean's comments are a bunch of b.s. because he has to say something. Is that accurate?
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Haha
I guess there is no better way to kill a thread than to ask a fella for fishing intel.
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Haha
I guess there is no better way to kill a thread than to ask a fella for fishing intel.
Ha.
The lake I know best in Spooner has only private access. Small lake with amazing bluegills and tons of bucket mouths.
You should consider sliding to the east and Hayward. World class mewskieloongers. Many lakes in the area with good smallies too. A good lake try is Lac Coutre Ourielles. Phipps in Hayward is a noteworthy establishment.
If you have pair of waders, the Brule river is a world class destination. Many easy spots to walk in. Also easy to rent a canoe. Start at Stones Bridge and go to either the Winnibijou Wagon Bridge, or even up to hwy 2. The scenery on the Brule is unforgettable.
For bit of nostalgia, pick up a couple of books by Gordom MacQuarrie. Before he wrote for the Journal, he wrote for the Superior Telegram. He was also a Superior native. He writes a lot about fly fishing the area for not only trout, but smallies too.
Lake St. Croix in Solon Springs is a productive fishery. Big body of water....headwaters of the St. Croix river.
Also, downstream from the Gordon dam, many fish smallies from canoes. Very productive body of water.
The St. Louis River will offer you everything from huge Walleyes, to Muskies to great smallies. If you hit the river early in the season, you can have a shot at multiple wall hanger walleyes.
On our lake, I love fishing in the pre dawn in the summer casting plastics into the shore. Have caught a number of big smallies that way. Just got to get my a$$ out of bed by 4 am to do it right.
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Haha
I guess there is no better way to kill a thread than to ask a fella for fishing intel.
What time of year will you be there? Early season, hit the St. Louis River.
Also, keep an eye on lake Superior. There is great early season top water action right outside the port of Superior. Great multi species for lakers, coho, steelhead, and big ass walleyes. The guides don't like to talk about how big the walleyes are to keep the crowds down and the big one for the their clients.
PM me when you are coming up.