via Tim Ring, sports anchor from Phoenix, who graduated from DePaul.
Hearing that DePaul's Oliver Purnell's days are winding down and the school will target former UCLA coach Ben Howland as his replacement.
https://twitter.com/timring3TV/status/438392111503663104
That would be sweet.
Quote from: Aughnanure on February 25, 2014, 02:56:49 PM
via Tim Ring, sports anchor from Phoenix, who graduated from DePaul.
Hearing that DePaul's Oliver Purnell's days are winding down and the school will target former UCLA coach Ben Howland as his replacement.
https://twitter.com/timring3TV/status/438392111503663104
Interesting. On a related note, I'm "targeting" the White House in 2016.
Wardle to DePaul!
Quote from: windyplayer on February 25, 2014, 03:01:37 PM
Interesting. On a related note, I'm "targeting" the White House in 2016.
Cmon now you just got scoop on the watch list now.
That woud be a great get for them
They need to become relevant again.
Since we r talking about coaching changes....
Bruce Pearl's show cause expires after this season. Boston College is rumored to be interested. I really think the addition of Pitt and SU will help that athletic department.
Quote from: Atticus on February 25, 2014, 03:18:23 PM
Since we r talking about coaching changes....
Bruce Pearl's show cause expires after this season. Boston College is rumored to be interested. I really think the addition of Pitt and SU will help that athletic department.
I can't stand Pearl, but BC could do a lot worse.
Would the Jesuits give their blessing to that hire?
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 25, 2014, 03:31:34 PM
Would the Jesuits give their blessing to that hire?
Fr. Leahy (formerly at MU) is the president of BC. I'd be stunned if he'd even consider Pearl. He doesn't have much tolerance for the type of ego that comes with Pearl.
Wardle to BC.
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 25, 2014, 03:31:34 PM
Would the Jesuits give their blessing to that hire?
Lol. That was my first reaction. IMO, he would be a huge step up.
Also, I think BC's demise since they joined the ACC is MASSIVELY overblown. Their football has been fine. Oh, and they weren't really ever good in bball. And they were charter manners of the BE.
Quote from: Aughnanure on February 25, 2014, 02:56:49 PM
via Tim Ring, sports anchor from Phoenix, who graduated from DePaul.
Hearing that DePaul's Oliver Purnell's days are winding down and the school will target former UCLA coach Ben Howland as his replacement.
https://twitter.com/timring3TV/status/438392111503663104
Another retread?
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 25, 2014, 03:52:03 PM
Another retread?
Correct.
That is what DePaul does, it recycles retreads.
And why stop with Howland? How about Billy Gillespie? Skip Plosser? Kevin O'Neill? Larry Eustachy?
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 25, 2014, 03:52:03 PM
Another retread?
Howland is a retread? He went to 3 final fours and got fired the year he won the Pac-12. I'd go after him in a heartbeat if Buzz ever left.
Quote from: Atticus on February 25, 2014, 03:47:41 PM
Also, I think BC's demise since they joined the ACC is MASSIVELY overblown. Their football has been fine. Oh, and they weren't really ever good in bball. And they were charter manners of the BE.
BC also survived a 1978-1979 point shaving scandal.
Wikipedia entry here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978%E2%80%9379_Boston_College_basketball_point_shaving_scandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978%E2%80%9379_Boston_College_basketball_point_shaving_scandal)
Sports Illustrated story here:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1124224/1/index.htm (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1124224/1/index.htm)
As for the football program, it survived a similar scandal in 1996.
SI article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1009060/1/index.htm (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1009060/1/index.htm)
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 25, 2014, 03:52:03 PM
Another retread?
I think Ben Howland is a bit of a different kind of retread than Purnell was. Howland certainly knows how to recruit
Quote from: Atticus on February 25, 2014, 03:47:41 PM
Lol. That was my first reaction. IMO, he would be a huge step up.
Also, I think BC's demise since they joined the ACC is MASSIVELY overblown. Their football has been fine. Oh, and they weren't really ever good in bball. And they were charter manners of the BE.
I think the biggest problem is that their AD decided to replace fairly successful football and basketball coaches with guys who were worse.
Quote from: Atticus on February 25, 2014, 03:47:41 PM
Lol. That was my first reaction. IMO, he would be a huge step up.
Also, I think BC's demise since they joined the ACC is MASSIVELY overblown. Their football has been fine. Oh, and they weren't really ever good in bball. And they were charter manners of the BE.
BC made the tourney 7 times from '00-'10, they haven't been back since 2009. They weren't a powerhuose but they had a nice stretch of success.
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 25, 2014, 03:55:49 PM
Correct.
That is what DePaul does, it recycles retreads.
And why stop with Howland? How about Billy Gillespie? Skip Plosser? Kevin O'Neill? Larry Eustachy?
Ouch.
Quote from: LAZER on February 25, 2014, 04:07:38 PM
BC made the tourney 7 times from '00-'10, they haven't been back since 2009. They weren't a powerhuose but they had a nice stretch of success.
Huh 2010? BC made the tourney 7 times from '00-'10, they haven't been back since 2009.
Quote from: Aughnanure on February 25, 2014, 03:57:06 PM
Howland is a retread? He went to 3 final fours and got fired the year he won the Pac-12. I'd go after him in a heartbeat if Buzz ever left.
DePauls biggest problem is they cannot make significant inroads in the sleazy public league. Howland is not going to fix that. I believe he'd be a horrible hire. If Minnesota can grab Pitino's son and Northwestern can get Dukes top assistant, surely DePaul can get a young, fresh coach hungry to prove himself? Howland's best days are behind him. Might as well hire Gene Bartow.
If I'm Howland, I make sure the commitment to basketball starts at the top.
If the University Prez is not onboard, I wait it out.
Marquette was not relevant again until Fr. Wild bought in, brought in a real AD, and put $$ toward the program.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 25, 2014, 04:26:12 PM
DePauls biggest problem is they cannot make significant inroads in the sleazy public league. Howland is not going to fix that. I believe he'd be a horrible hire. If Minnesota can grab Pitino's son and Northwestern can get Dukes top assistant, surely DePaul can get a young, fresh coach hungry to prove himself? Howland's best days are behind him. Might as well hire Gene Bartow.
Wardle to DePaul!!!!
Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on February 25, 2014, 03:59:26 PM
BC also survived a 1978-1979 point shaving scandal.
Wikipedia entry here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978%E2%80%9379_Boston_College_basketball_point_shaving_scandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978%E2%80%9379_Boston_College_basketball_point_shaving_scandal)
Sports Illustrated story here:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1124224/1/index.htm (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1124224/1/index.htm)
As for the football program, it survived a similar scandal in 1996.
SI article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1009060/1/index.htm (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1009060/1/index.htm)
Henry Hill.
BC, Betting Central.
Until DePaul makes changes at the top (Athletic Director), the school will continue to suffer.
Quote from: mu-rara on February 25, 2014, 04:26:45 PM
If I'm Howland, I make sure the commitment to basketball starts at the top.
If the University Prez is not onboard, I wait it out.
Marquette was not relevant again until Fr. Wild bought in, brought in a real AD, and put $$ toward the program.
Howland will be 57 starting next season, figure he has one more go-round on the coaching carousel. Considering his remarkable pedigree as a program builder and coach -- why would he choose DePaul? Maybe he will, but first things first at DPU -- fix the issue at AD and demonstrate an institutional commitment to playing at an elite level.
Quote from: NYWarrior on February 25, 2014, 04:42:28 PM
Howland will be 57 starting next season, figure he has one more go-round on the coaching carousel. Considering his remarkable pedigree as a program builder and coach -- why would he choose DePaul? Maybe he will, but first things first at DPU -- fix the issue at AD and demonstrate an institutional commitment to playing at an elite level.
Like building a brand new stadium?
I think Howland can get a much better job than DePaul, why put up with that mess?
Quote from: PunchingPiper on February 25, 2014, 04:46:16 PM
Like building a brand new stadium?
That's one element & there are certainly dozens of others yet to be resolved, like the AD and overall program spending.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 25, 2014, 04:26:12 PM
DePauls biggest problem is they cannot make significant inroads in the sleazy public league. Howland is not going to fix that. I believe he'd be a horrible hire. If Minnesota can grab Pitino's son and Northwestern can get Dukes top assistant, surely DePaul can get a young, fresh coach hungry to prove himself? Howland's best days are behind him. Might as well hire Gene Bartow.
Gulp ... agree totally with PRN here.
Howland is a really good coach, but I don't think he's going to have the patience, desire and energy to deal with the CPL. And no coach ever has, or ever will, succeed consistently at DePaul without recruiting the public league.
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 25, 2014, 03:55:49 PM
Correct.
That is what DePaul does, it recycles retreads.
And why stop with Howland? How about Billy Gillespie? Skip Plosser? Kevin O'Neill? Larry Eustachy?
FYI, Skip Prosser has been dead for 7 years now.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 25, 2014, 03:52:03 PM
Another retread?
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 25, 2014, 03:55:49 PM
Correct.
That is what DePaul does, it recycles retreads.
And why stop with Howland? How about Billy Gillespie? Skip Plosser? Kevin O'Neill? Larry Eustachy?
Gentlemen, gentlemen, the retread argument has been debunked. Must we go there again?
Actually, Howland would be the first hire to qualify as a retread seeing as he was actually let go by his previous employer.
Quote from: PunchingPiper on February 25, 2014, 04:01:17 PM
I think Ben Howland is a bit of a different kind of retread than Purnell was. Howland certainly knows how to recruit
Purnell was no retread he was hired away from an ACC school where he was having previously unheard of success.
Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on February 25, 2014, 04:06:39 PM
I think the biggest problem is that their AD decided to replace fairly successful football and basketball coaches with guys who were worse.
Was that before or after he gloated publicly about ESPN convincing the ACC to offer membership to Pitt and 'Cuse after the Big East turned down ESPN's TV offer? There's a hot seat watch for you!
Quote from: KC_Warrior on February 25, 2014, 04:56:57 PM
FYI, Skip Prosser has been dead for 7 years now.
True ... But is he an upgrade over Purnell?
I have a lot of respect for Howland. And I recognize the tools that Depaul has (but seems unable to utilize). I would be curious to see what Howland could do with Depaul
Does anyone really think the new arena will help the program? I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just honestly curious.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on February 25, 2014, 05:23:38 PM
Does anyone really think the new arena will help the program? I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just honestly curious.
Not while Lenti-Ponsetto allocates a large chunk of the Big East cash and most of her time and attention to the non-revenue programs.
Howland would be interesting.
He essentially had to sit out this year to collect $$$ from UCLA based on the somewhat unique terms of his termination. He may be scouting this season and be prepared to elevate the Blue Demons (to second to last or so).
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 25, 2014, 05:11:02 PM
True ... But is he an upgrade over Purnell?
One could make that argument, yes.
Quote from: Aughnanure on February 25, 2014, 02:56:49 PM
via Tim Ring, sports anchor from Phoenix, who graduated from DePaul.
Hearing that DePaul's Oliver Purnell's days are winding down and the school will target former UCLA coach Ben Howland as his replacement.
https://twitter.com/timring3TV/status/438392111503663104
;)
Based on what I heard 2 weeks ago at a UCLA game, I'd say this rumor has a lot of truth to it. We shall see, but out of the mouths of babes to my ears...
Didn't DePaul try to get Howland last time, and get laughed at? Or was it Jamie Dixon?
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 25, 2014, 03:55:49 PM
Correct.
That is what DePaul does, it recycles retreads.
And why stop with Howland? How about Billy Gillespie? Skip Plosser? Kevin O'Neill? Larry Eustachy?
Yeah, this is just silly. UCLA isn't exactly struggling this year either, and that's not because of Alford. Top 3 are all guys Howland left behind. Only 2 freshmen really making any kind of meaningful contributions to a team that's having a pretty decent year.
DePaul (and consequenty the rest of he conference) would be lucky to get such a retread. He'll get better offers.
I read the DU board from time to time to cheer myself up from this season and they are delusional in who the candidates would be if Purnell gets fired. They aren't getting Howland, Pearl etc., they need a KO or Crean type that we hired back in the day. They need someone with energy that in addition to recruiting and coaching will be a salesman for the program, they are so far down they need more than an x and o coach. BTW they need to can the AD.I admire the 5 fans left who post on their board, it reminds me every day to thank KO for resurrecting us from oblivion 20+ years ago.
Quote from: LittleMurs on February 25, 2014, 05:31:17 PM
Not while Lenti-Ponsetto allocates a large chunk of the Big East cash and most of her time and attention to the non-revenue programs.
She is the problem. The AD should be fired and replaced, then get a new coach. She has done NOTHING to improve that program and should be tossed out.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 25, 2014, 06:01:08 PM
Yeah, this is just silly. UCLA isn't exactly struggling this year either, and that's not because of Alford. Top 3 are all guys Howland left behind. Only 2 freshmen really making any kind of meaningful contributions to a team that's having a pretty decent year.
DePaul (and consequenty the rest of he conference) would be lucky to get such a retread. He'll get better offers.
UCLA won the Pac 12 title last year as well. People forget this. The problem is that they had Shabazz last year, a McD's player that had to get his touches, etc. In my view, he made them much less of a team than this year's squad. Addition by subtraction.
DePaul should have gone after Chris Collins two years ago.
Quote from: Atticus on February 25, 2014, 03:18:23 PM
Since we r talking about coaching changes....
Bruce Pearl's show cause expires after this season. Boston College is rumored to be interested. I really think the addition of Pitt and SU will help that athletic department.
How do you feel that RPI has the ACC ranked fifth, and Sagarin has them ranked fifth?
Just wondering your reaction since it seemed that you were saying the ACC was the greatest league ever assembled the world over.
Quote from: LAZER on February 25, 2014, 04:48:35 PM
I think Howland can get a much better job than DePaul, why put up with that mess?
Agree. DePaul needs much more than just a new arena.
They better get somebody. Just watched some of the Depaul-Seton Hall game and seriously, there are like 1,000 people in attendance. Actually, it may even be less.
Another dagger to the heart of the DePaul basketball team. Had a 10 point lead in the first half, and are now down 6 to Seton Hall.
Quote from: LittleMurs on February 25, 2014, 05:31:17 PM
Not while Lenti-Ponsetto allocates a large chunk of the Big East cash and most of her time and attention to the non-revenue programs.
Until Jean Lenti-Ponsetto is gone, sorry to day, DePaul will be a doormat in the Big East. I think she's afraid men's basketball again may someday eclipse women's basketball at DePaul.
Ray Meyer must be rolling over in his grave and poking the top trying to get out and scream, "stop the madness!"
If Purnell is fired, is Garrett Sr. retained as an assistant coach, in order to keep his kid at DePaul?
Quote from: slack00 on February 25, 2014, 04:13:05 PM
Ouch.
Agree, ouch. Let's see are they relevant? How about a 2 point game against us? There is relatively little difference between 8 of 10 teams in the BE on many nights. Think our focus should be on how we improve. The other teams will develop, rest assure. They have the same financial incentives we have.
How land is one of the top three highest paid public employees in CA along with Mike Montgomery (Cal).
Quote from: dgies9156 on February 25, 2014, 10:14:36 PM
Until Jean Lenti-Ponsetto is gone, sorry to day, DePaul will be a doormat in the Big East. I think she's afraid men's basketball again may someday eclipse women's basketball at DePaul.
Ray Meyer must be rolling over in his grave and poking the top trying to get out and scream, "stop the madness!"
I am not even sure she is the problem. There needs to be a University-wide commitment to the program. The AD and the Coach are very, very important but there is more to it than that. There are a a lot of intangibles there. One just has to look at our new BE brethren such as Xavier, Butler, and to a lesser extent Creighton. They have had successful programs despite multiple coaches and ADs over many years.
That being said, the BE needs doormats too. Perhaps this year there is too much parity. :P
Quote from: mugrack on February 25, 2014, 10:28:46 PM
If Purnell is fired, is Garrett Sr. retained as an assistant coach, in order to keep his kid at DePaul?
A big fat, resounding "yes."
Quote from: 79Warrior on February 25, 2014, 07:16:09 PM
She is the problem. The AD should be fired and replaced, then get a new coach. She has done NOTHING to improve that program and should be tossed out.
And that's why DePaul will stay DePaul. The DePaul president was just tickled to give her a five year contract extension because she didn't ask for any raises during the contract. At least Lenti-Ponsetto was clever enough to pass on raises in order to get a contract that runs well past the time that DePaul will be able to keep her.
Quote from: mugrack on February 25, 2014, 10:28:46 PM
If Purnell is fired, is Garrett Sr. retained as an assistant coach, in order to keep his kid at DePaul?
I can just hear the DePaul administration making its pitch to Howland and other coaching candidates. "Oh, and you'll have to agree to keep this guy with no college experience prior to last year on staff as one of your three assistants."
Looks like OP is likely back for another year
http://voices.suntimes.com/sports/next-season-could-be-last-for-depauls-purnell/