From Slam Magazine
"Star Notice
Five non-McDonald's All-Americans who can make the NBA.
Ahmed Hill, Aquinas (GA)
PG, 6-5, 190
Committed to Marquette
Simply put, I think Hill is the most underrated player in the country. Great size for a point guard at 6-5. Tight handle and strong frame to penetrate and finish through contact, and an extremely high basketball IQ—Hill can run your team as a freshman. He's a playmaker, a hungry competitor, and a true leader.
Hill can play both guard positions, but if I were a coach, I'd give Hill the keys to the offense and let him operate. He handles the ball against pressure, surveys the floor with poise, and can finish at the rim. I've seen all the top point guards in the Class of 2014, and in my opinion, there's not a PG who Ahmed Hill can't compete with. He could put Marquette back on the map in a hurry."
Quote from: beer baby on February 23, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
Great size for a point guard at 6-5.
Hill can run your team as a freshman.
PG hey? Hill can run YOUR team as a freshman maybe, but not OUR team.
Good stuff--thanks for posting. Can't wait for Med to arrive.
Quote from: beer baby on February 23, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
From Slam Magazine
"Star Notice
Five non-McDonald's All-Americans who can make the NBA.
Ahmed Hill, Aquinas (GA)
PG, 6-5, 190
Committed to Marquette
Simply put, I think Hill is the most underrated player in the country. Great size for a point guard at 6-5. Tight handle and strong frame to penetrate and finish through contact, and an extremely high basketball IQ—Hill can run your team as a freshman. He's a playmaker, a hungry competitor, and a true leader.
Hill can play both guard positions, but if I were a coach, I'd give Hill the keys to the offense and let him operate. He handles the ball against pressure, surveys the floor with poise, and can finish at the rim. I've seen all the top point guards in the Class of 2014, and in my opinion, there's not a PG who Ahmed Hill can't compete with. He could put Marquette back on the map in a hurry."
[Salivating]
Duane Wilson
Ahmed Hill
Deonte Burton
Luke Fischer
Sathcel Pierce
Young.........but very intriguing.
According to the announcers yesterday, Ox is next.
This is already making me frustrated.
We got Todd and JJJ
then factor in Duane and Hill
but you know Derrick is going to play.
Someone is getting left out, because someone isn't sticking around.
Quote from: beer baby on February 23, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
He could put Marquette back on the map in a hurry.
When were we off the map?
I know everybody is excited to see him in a MU uniform but lets remember the last time a player got this much hype. Just taper you expectations a bit so we dont have the board blow up with transfer rumors again.
Quote from: moomoo on February 23, 2014, 10:59:50 AM
Duane Wilson
Ahmed Hill
Deonte Burton
Luke Fischer
Sathcel Pierce
Young.........but very intriguing.
i like it, rotating todd, jjj, and derek into the mix...very nice.
Quote from: moomoo on February 23, 2014, 10:59:50 AM
Duane Wilson
Ahmed Hill
Deonte Burton
Luke Fischer
Sathcel Pierce
Young.........but very intriguing.
I would prefer
Duane Wilson
Ahmed Hill
Mayo/JJJ
Burton/Fischer
Taylor
We all know who's starting at PG next year.
DG is NOT NBA. Kid struggles to run to defend the three and will get blown by.
Quote from: beer baby on February 23, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
From Slam Magazine
"Star Notice
Five non-McDonald's All-Americans who can make the NBA.
Ahmed Hill, Aquinas (GA)
PG, 6-5, 190
Committed to Marquette
Simply put, I think Hill is the most underrated player in the country. Great size for a point guard at 6-5. Tight handle and strong frame to penetrate and finish through contact, and an extremely high basketball IQ—Hill can run your team as a freshman. He's a playmaker, a hungry competitor, and a true leader.
Hill can play both guard positions, but if I were a coach, I'd give Hill the keys to the offense and let him operate. He handles the ball against pressure, surveys the floor with poise, and can finish at the rim. I've seen all the top point guards in the Class of 2014, and in my opinion, there's not a PG who Ahmed Hill can't compete with. He could put Marquette back on the map in a hurry."
Slam apparently hasn't seen the currently running 9 page post about our team's coaching ability...or has it!!??!! hmmmmmmm ?-( ;) ?-(
Quote from: real chili 83 on February 23, 2014, 11:22:34 AM
According to the announcers yesterday, Ox is next.
Physically, Jamil is the most prototypical NBA player.
Ox needs to lower his BFP. He has amazing touch for a big man, though.
Quote from: moomoo on February 23, 2014, 10:59:50 AM
Duane Wilson
Ahmed Hill
Deonte Burton
Luke Fischer
Sathcel Pierce
Young.........but very intriguing.
yall think a Freshmen is starting at Marquette along with 3 people who havent played a game here... ha ha ha thats not happening....
Derrick and Mayo will certainly be starting next year...
Quote from: Nevada233 on February 23, 2014, 02:25:02 PM
yall think a Freshmen is starting at Marquette along with 3 people who havent played a game here... ha ha ha thats not happening....
Derrick and Mayo will certainly be starting next year...
You may be right. But a lineup of:
Derrick/Dawson
Mayo
JJJ
Burton
Taylor/Fischer
Would be very strong. There is no guarantee that despite the hoopla that Hill or Duane Wilson are better than Derrick/Dawson or Mayo/JJJ.
Quote from: forgetful on February 23, 2014, 02:27:29 PM
You may be right. But a lineup of:
Derrick/Dawson
Mayo
JJJ
Burton
Taylor/Fischer
Would be very strong. There is no guarantee that despite the hoopla that Hill or Duane Wilson are better than Derrick/Dawson or Mayo/JJJ.
JJJ's gonna have to add about 15 lbs and play some defense before he starts at MU. If he's not even playing at all now he's got a world of work to do.
Quote from: Nevada233 on February 23, 2014, 02:25:02 PM
yall think a Freshmen is starting at Marquette along with 3 people who havent played a game here... ha ha ha thats not happening....
Derrick and Mayo will certainly be starting next year...
Maybe. But then the second string will still be a look into a great future.
Sad to say it but none of the juniors or seniors currently on this team will play in the Association. Maybe some of the freshmen though. Too soon to tell, but I really like Burton.
Quote from: moomoo on February 23, 2014, 10:59:50 AM
Duane Wilson
Ahmed Hill
Deonte Burton
Luke Fischer
Sathcel Pierce
Young.........but very intriguing.
Buzz won't allow this. Sad but true
Quote from: Bleuteaux on February 23, 2014, 06:05:34 PM
Sad to say it but none of the juniors or seniors currently on this team will play in the Association. Maybe some of the freshmen though. Too soon to tell, but I really like Burton.
+10000
I am sure Ahmed Hill will benefit from a year riding the pine watching our PG being defended sagged off by 10 feet and shooting less than 50% at the later throw line. Too early to start Ahmed Hill transfer rumors?
Quote from: Nevada233 on February 23, 2014, 02:25:02 PM
yall think a Freshmen is starting at Marquette along with 3 people who havent played a game here... ha ha ha thats not happening....
Derrick and Mayo will certainly be starting next year...
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
I am sure Ahmed Hill will benefit from a year riding the pine watching our PG being defended sagged off by 10 feet and shooting less than 50% at the later throw line. Too early to start Ahmed Hill transfer rumors?
+10000
If I was Ahmed Hill I wouldnt want to be coached by Buzz.
Slight chance for Jamil and Devante. Getting to the tournament is a must.
Imagine the potential of this lineup in 2015-2016:
Duane Wilson
Ahmed Hill
Deonte Burton
Luke Fischer
Diamond Stone
From all I saw of Hill so far he does look like the real deal. But I gotta agree with you HH32, we have a logjam of wing players and guards next year. I really like Derrick Wilson but it's a bit worrying to think he may be playing just as much next year. I really hope he comes off the bench next year as a defensive stopper if Duane lives up to the hype.
Quote from: Dreadman24 on February 23, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
+10000
If I was Ahmed Hill I wouldnt want to be coached by Buzz.
Wow--Dreadman this is a new low even for you.
It may have just been that guys opinion, but hopefully hill doesn't expect to play point next year. Hope he prefers to play off the ball because there are zero minutes available at the 1 next year regardless of incoming/returning talent level.
Great find. Hopefully the author is correct.
I have a good feeling about Hill. I still remember an interview with him where he said that he is coming to Maquette because Buzz is willing to build the offense around him. When I read it, I thought he was just talking. I didn't think Buzz would every promise a high school player something like that. But maybe this frosh is special.
We will see. I'm not convinced. But I hope that he is even better than advertised.
Since people were posting guesses as to what the starting lineups will be, I have:
Derrick
Mayo
Burton
Taylor
Fischer
Bench:
Johnson
Du Wilson
Anderson
Hill
Pierce
Everyone else is a benchwarmer
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 23, 2014, 10:36:02 PM
Great find. Hopefully the author is correct.
I have a good feeling about Hill. I still remember an interview with him where he said that he is coming to Maquette because Buzz is willing to build the offense around him. When I read it, I thought he was just talking. I didn't think Buzz would every promise a high school player something like that. But maybe this frosh is special.
We will see. I'm not convinced. But I hope that he is even better than advertised.
Since people were posting guesses as to what the starting lineups will be, I have:
Derrick
Mayo
Burton
Taylor
Fischer
Bench:
Johnson
Du Wilson
Anderson
Hill
Pierce
Everyone else is a benchwarmer
Considering how long it takes Buzz to install the offense, I hope he already started! :D
Do they adjust the ratings after every year? I know ESPN rankings are completely pointless (Just look at Davante) but just curious to see if he could make the jump to a 5 star.
Quote from: esard2011 on February 23, 2014, 10:57:56 PM
Do they adjust the ratings after every year? I know ESPN rankings are completely pointless (Just look at Davante) but just curious to see if he could make the jump to a 5 star.
Most services do their final class ranking after the Spring AAU circuit.
Quote from: Dreadman24 on February 23, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
+10000
If I was Ahmed Hill I wouldnt want to be coached by Buzz.
Guess it's a good thing you aren't Med then. Pretty sure Buzz wouldn't want to deal with your whining either.
FWIW, Jamil and Ox were invited to the PIT (Portsmouth Invit.)
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 23, 2014, 07:17:05 PM
Wow--Dreadman this is a new low even for you.
This is what trolls have to do. They have to get more and more insane for people to give them the attention they crave.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 24, 2014, 01:13:48 AM
Guess it's a good thing you aren't Med then. Pretty sure Buzz wouldn't want to deal with your whining either.
Yeah, I really doubt Buzz would have any interest in him.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 23, 2014, 10:36:02 PM
Great find. Hopefully the author is correct.
I have a good feeling about Hill. I still remember an interview with him where he said that he is coming to Maquette because Buzz is willing to build the offense around him. When I read it, I thought he was just talking. I didn't think Buzz would every promise a high school player something like that. But maybe this frosh is special.
We will see. I'm not convinced. But I hope that he is even better than advertised.
Since people were posting guesses as to what the starting lineups will be, I have:
Derrick
Mayo
Burton
Taylor
Fischer
Bench:
Johnson
Du Wilson
Anderson
Hill
Pierce
Everyone else is a benchwarmer
Since Fischer isn't going to be around until December, here is what I think:
Derrick / Duane / Dawson
Todd / Hill / Duane
Anderson / Johnson / Cohen
Burton / Shayok / Cohen
Taylor / Pierce
Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on February 24, 2014, 08:31:44 AM
Since Fischer isn't going to be around until December, here is what I think:
Derrick / Duane / Dawson
Todd / Hill / Duane
Anderson / Johnson / Cohen
Burton / Shayok / Cohen
Taylor / Pierce
Agree on that lineup for day 1. At the start of BE play I would love to see...
Duane
Mayo
JJJ
Burton
Fischer
With Ahmed as super sub only if he is good as advertised
Next 4 in Derrick, Taylor, Juan, Satchel (I think Satchel might get second most PT of the frosh just due to need. If Mbao got playing time as a frosh, no reason to think pierce won't.)
Early in the year, STjr and Juan will be starting up front, possibly with Deonte. Backcourt is a jambalaya. I won't even try to predict how it shakes out. But Pierce isn't going to start from day 1 and Buzz is not going to go with STjr and Deonte at the 4-5 spots. Too small, nightmare defensively. MU is just going to be small next year until Fischer is eligible.
Quote from: muvanwilder on February 24, 2014, 09:09:38 AM
Agree on that lineup for day 1. At the start of BE play I would love to see...
Duane
Mayo
JJJ
Burton
Fischer
With Ahmed as super sub only if he is good as advertised
Next 4 in Derrick, Taylor, Juan, Satchel (I think Satchel might get second most PT of the frosh just due to need. If Mbao got playing time as a frosh, no reason to think pierce won't.)
100% chance that Juan Anderson starts.
Quote from: tower912 on February 24, 2014, 09:18:52 AM
But Pierce isn't going to start from day 1 and Buzz is not going to go with STjr and Deonte at the 4-5 spots. Too small, nightmare defensively.
Is this what you meant to say? Because otherwise I don't seem to know who you think will guard the five.
And I actually think that will be Steve. Remember Lazar guarded the five in Buzz's first year...
Yes. I see STjr and Juan starting up front early next year. STjr at the 5 and Juan at the 4. Pierce will get spot minutes. Assuming status quo, IMO Taylor, Anderson, Mayo and DeWilson can be penciled in to start early in the season. When Fischer becomes eligible, that gives Buzz flexibility up front, the ability to, say, start Fischer and Burton with Mayo, and Hill. Should be interesting to watch. Not always enjoyable, but always interesting.
Quote from: tower912 on February 24, 2014, 09:53:29 AM
Yes. I see STjr and Juan starting up front early next year. STjr at the 5 and Juan at the 4. Pierce will get spot minutes. Assuming status quo, IMO Taylor, Anderson, Mayo and DeWilson can be penciled in to start early in the season. When Fischer becomes eligible, that gives Buzz flexibility up front, the ability to, say, start Fischer and Burton with Mayo, and Hill. Should be interesting to watch. Not always enjoyable, but always interesting.
Personally, I'm looking forward to Luke Fischer playing 13 minutes off the bench in his MU debut and having several posters lose their mind because he didn't start and play 32 minutes.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 24, 2014, 09:59:55 AM
Personally, I'm looking forward to Luke Fischer playing 13 minutes off the bench in his MU debut and having several posters lose their mind because he didn't start and play 32 minutes.
And we win by 2.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 24, 2014, 09:19:28 AM
100% chance that Juan Anderson starts.
I agree, but I doubt he gets starter's minutes. I don't think he will get more than 15-20 minutes per game. Barring him tapping new found potential.
Quote from: tower912 on February 24, 2014, 09:53:29 AM
Yes. I see STjr and Juan starting up front early next year. STjr at the 5 and Juan at the 4. Pierce will get spot minutes. Assuming status quo, IMO Taylor, Anderson, Mayo and DeWilson can be penciled in to start early in the season. When Fischer becomes eligible, that gives Buzz flexibility up front, the ability to, say, start Fischer and Burton with Mayo, and Hill. Should be interesting to watch. Not always enjoyable, but always interesting.
I agree with you completely.
I think what this season has taught us is that no matter what experience= trust to Buzz and that means our seniors and junior will be starting. I see Derrick, Todd, Juan, Burton, Taylor. Till Fisher comes in and then Burton moves down to the 6th man and Taylor to 4 with Fisher at 5. I actually don't think Pierce gets many minutes.
By the way why has nobody speculated about Harris in the lineup at all? According to Hunt he still wants to come and we'll take him if we can haha
Quote from: iwasbanned24 on February 24, 2014, 12:53:28 PM
Buzz coaching philosophy is baffling. A starting lineup with Anderson and Wilson? Where will the points come from next year? Not the starting lineup thats for sure
You do realize that a Buzz starting line up is oftentimes meaningless. It's the total minutes that count right?
Quote from: iwasbanned24 on February 24, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
Does coach k, roy williams, and bill self coach that way? No. Buzz is like a high school coach by wanting to make is seniors or upperclassmen happy. That doesnt work in D1 athletics.
seeing as it's worked till this season I wouldn't cry about it. His way of coaching balances classes and is designed to keep us reliably good while developing others. Unfortunately a departure and injuries threw that off.
Also you can't compare MU to programs that are consistently getting McDonald's AAs
Quote from: iwasbanned24 on February 24, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
Does coach k, roy williams, and bill self coach that way? No. Buzz is like a high school coach by wanting to make is seniors or upperclassmen happy. That doesnt work in D1 athletics.
Hey...you're Dreadman!!!
Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on February 24, 2014, 12:59:08 PM
You do realize that a Buzz starting line up is oftentimes meaningless. It's the total minutes that count right?
Oh boy--now the starting lineup is meaningless. Not according to Buzz. The hardest workers in practice get the nod, according to Buzz--is that meaningless? Otule starts so we are ensured of getting the first possession--now IMO, that is meaningless, but not to others. Anderson starts because he deserves to--is that meaningless?
You can't have it both ways--that it is meaningless--or it isn't. Why do guys like Anderson and Otule start if it is meaningless? It must mean something to somebody!
Quote from: willie warrior on February 24, 2014, 01:23:50 PM
Oh boy--now the starting lineup is meaningless.
In terms of how it oftentimes relates to total minutes.