How do you defend against Doug McDermott? Creighton's next highest scorer is a drop in 15 ppg from McDermott. Start Steve Taylor over Jamil? I can see Jamil getting some quick fouls and becoming a non-factor for the game. Play a zone? Go defensive minded with Otule or offensive mined with Davante? Maybe our best defense against McDermott is to run all our offense to him. Pound the ball with Jamil, Davante, Steve, Chris and Deonte repeatedly till he has to sit.
Quote from: NCMUFan on February 19, 2014, 01:07:05 AM
How do you defend against Doug McDermott? Creighton's next highest scorer is a drop in 15 ppg from McDermott. Start Steve Taylor over Jamil? I can see Jamil getting some quick fouls and becoming a non-factor for the game. Play a zone? Go defensive minded with Otule or offensive mined with Davante? T
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Quote from: NCMUFan on February 19, 2014, 01:07:05 AM
How do you defend against Doug McDermott? Creighton's next highest scorer is a drop in 15 ppg from McDermott. Start Steve Taylor over Jamil? I can see Jamil getting some quick fouls and becoming a non-factor for the game. Play a zone? Go defensive minded with Otule or offensive mined with Davante? Maybe our best defense against McDermott is to run all our offense to him. Pound the ball with Jamil, Davante, Steve, Chris and Deonte repeatedly till he has to sit.
I think the defensive line up will start and Juan will be guarding McDermott man-to-man.
You don't need to fundamentally change what you do. Creighton is a good team no doubt, but let's not make them out to be unbeatable. Buzz has faced, and beaten, better teams since he has been here.
Yeah but, their strength is our weakness.
And vice versa. Creighton isn't a lock down defensive team by any means. Marquette will score.
I just don't think you sit back and let them do what they do. I think you apply the zone pressure to take time off the clock, get up in their face, and make them run their stuff. If that doesn't work, you can do something to change it up, but I just think you have to play the game that you are built to play.
Need to play aggressive man to man with as little help as possible. Switch multiple guys on McDermott to give him a lot of different looks.
We have nobody capable of guarding McBuckets, because he can score in or out. Start Juan on him because he can waste 3 fouls on him in the first 5 minutes. Then let Burton come in and mug him for a while. Then switch around a bit with Jake, Mayo and Jamil taking turns on him. None of these will be able to handle him.
Buzz should tell Burton: You want to play big minutes in this game? Your job is to stop McBuckets, and as long as you are doing that reasonably well, you are my guy." Hell it's worth a try.
Put Jimmy Butler in Juan's jersey ;)
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 19, 2014, 08:38:42 AM
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Dylan Flood is always good for 5 fouls.
Quote from: CTWarrior on February 19, 2014, 09:05:03 AM
Need to play aggressive man to man with as little help as possible. Switch multiple guys on McDermott to give him a lot of different looks.
yes, limit the help defense. Clogging the middle just gives CU more open looks from 3.
We need someone with the al McGuire vs bob Cousy attitude
Quote from: willie warrior on February 19, 2014, 09:05:07 AM
Buzz should tell Burton: You want to play big minutes in this game? Your job is to stop McBuckets, and as long as you are doing that reasonably well, you are my guy." Hell it's worth a try.
What could you possibly have seen this season to indicate it is worth a try? It would be a one man layup line.
If MU is able to hold him reasonably in check, it will likely be because Jamil Wilson played a very good game defensively. I don't necessarily think that's going to happen, but I thinks it's the most likely 'if' scenario.
Juan is our best shot. Tell him to squeeze inside of McD's jersey, and not come out.
Jamil is the only other guy we have who has the length and ability to slow McD down, so I'd rotate him there when Juan goes to the bench.
What if we just don't guard him? He's bound to get tired and thrown off a little bit!
I think you guard McBuckets by trapping their PG. They operate out of the half court. If you put pressure on them as they bring the ball up, they can't set up their offense. It may disrupt them...
Of course, if the press gets broken, someone will probably be open for a three.
I've heard Buzz use the phrase "play them high on the floor", which basically means getting them to initiate their offense closer to half court than the three point line. It gets their offense out of rhythm and leaves them less shot clock to work through their offensive paces. I think we have the defenders and the depth to make it work. Think back to what Derrick Wilson did to Jordan Taylor, or what Jimmy Butler did to Tu Holloway. The ball was forced from their hands early and far from the basket. The player receiving the pass was in space where he was no threat to shoot. The opponent offense was out of rhythm from the start of the possession. I'd love some redemption for Derrick Wilson in a tough defensive performance.
Also worth noting from a defensive strategy standpoint... a few big east opponents conceded McDermott will score his points by guarding him w/o doubles. They instead tried to deny Wragge. St. John's had Jakar Sampson on him McDermott. Doug went for 30 plus, Wragge did little. SJU took the game to the wire when the inexplicably let Doug McD loose for a last second three.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 19, 2014, 10:31:39 AM
I think you guard McBuckets by trapping their PG. They operate out of the half court. If you put pressure on them as they bring the ball up, they can't set up their offense. It may disrupt them...
Of course, if the press gets broken, someone will probably be open for a three.
Cause weve had so much success pressing this year...Just let Derrick do his thing and hopefully its enough to where Dougie doesnt get as many touches as he normally does. I think its all about limiting his touches rather then just hoping to guard him with the ball.
Quote from: esard2011 on February 19, 2014, 10:33:59 AM
Cause weve had so much success pressing this year...Just let Derrick do his thing and hopefully its enough to where Dougie doesnt get as many touches as he normally does. I think its all about limiting his touches rather then just hoping to guard him with the ball.
He didn't say press...he said pressure. Pressuring their PG and making him waste time and getting the ball out of his hands, without necessarily shooting for a turnover, is a Buzz staple.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 19, 2014, 09:28:05 AM
What could you possibly have seen this season to indicate it is worth a try? It would be a one man layup line.
If MU is able to hold him reasonably in check, it will likely be because Jamil Wilson played a very good game defensively. I don't necessarily think that's going to happen, but I thinks it's the most likely 'if' scenario.
I agree that Burton is not an ace defensively. What I have seen is a guy who is not afraid to mix it up. If you give him the assignment that his minutes depend on him guarding the guy well, it is worth a try. And he likely has the strength to guard him. And if he can't guard him, only use him to spot others. Juan sure as hell does not have the strength to guard the guy.
And Ja. Wilson, with his softness and ole' defense?. Surely, you are joking.
Since McDermott seems to hate physical contact I would try to knock him down a few times early. Juan would be good for some wasted fouls and try to knock him off his game or out of the game
Quote from: melissasmooth on February 19, 2014, 10:47:46 AM
Since McDermott seems to hate physical contact I would try to knock him down a few times early. Juan would be good for some wasted fouls and try to knock him off his game or out of the game
I was just gonna rush the court and see if I could get a couple good hooks in before being arrested.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 19, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
I was just gonna rush the court and see if I could get a couple good hooks in before being arrested.
Solid idea
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 19, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
I was just gonna rush the court and see if I could get a couple good hooks in before being arrested.
Ah, the Providence defense!
Quote from: mr.MUskie on February 19, 2014, 08:37:09 AM
Baseball bat to the knee caps.
Ah, the Tanya Harding ploy.
Quote from: AZWarrior on February 19, 2014, 10:58:37 AM
Ah, the Tanya Harding ploy.
Anytime you can successfully mention Tanya Harding in a thread you know its a good one.
I like the idea of high pressure on the PG.
Otherwise, for me, the bigger question is about defensive strategy on Wragge. I absolutely would NEVER leave him open for a 3-pointer. If that means doubling McDermott with someone else's man or trying to defend McDermott 1-on-1 (or some combination thereof), I'm willing to live with some other guys getting open 3s. If another player goes off from 3-point range, you adjust the strategy on the fly.
Quote from: AZWarrior on February 19, 2014, 10:58:37 AM
Ah, the Tanya Harding ploy.
Was going to throw out Jeff Gillooly...
Quote from: willie warrior on February 19, 2014, 09:05:07 AM
We have nobody capable of guarding McBuckets, because he can score in or out. Start Juan on him because he can waste 3 fouls on him in the first 5 minutes. Then let Burton come in and mug him for a while. Then switch around a bit with Jake, Mayo and Jamil taking turns on him. None of these will be able to handle him.
Buzz should tell Burton: You want to play big minutes in this game? Your job is to stop McBuckets, and as long as you are doing that reasonably well, you are my guy." Hell it's worth a try.
I actually think Burton may be our best option on him (Jamil may get too many fouls). Burton is actually quite a good 1 on 1 defender, he is really bad as a team/help defender. It would have just had to been emphasized to him that you never leave McBuckets, that he should be in his hip pocket at all times and seriously bother him. Burton is quick enough that he wouldn't have to ever give any space at all and athletic/strong enough to bother him in the post.
Hey, wait a minute -- what about the bat?
Quick -- somebody run to the BC and open the doors!
Unless Buzz changes his philosophy of not guarding the three, this game will get ugly in a hurry
A Scooper in the rafters with a dart-gun.
Quote from: forgetful on February 19, 2014, 11:19:41 AM
I actually think Burton may be our best option on him (Jamil may get too many fouls). Burton is actually quite a good 1 on 1 defender, he is really bad as a team/help defender. It would have just had to been emphasized to him that you never leave McBuckets, that he should be in his hip pocket at all times and seriously bother him. Burton is quick enough that he wouldn't have to ever give any space at all and athletic/strong enough to bother him in the post.
+1. I remember thinking that Burton did a pretty good job when guarding McDermott man to man the first time around (I went back to one of the post game threads and saw a comment of mine to that effect). We defended them OK but could not get anything going on the offensive end of the court. That first game was the pinnacle of my personal exasperation with Derrick Wilson. I think he will look inside tonight more (impossible not to) and Gardner will get more touches in a position to do some damage and we will be in this one to the end.
Quote from: Untucked on February 19, 2014, 12:12:01 PM
Unless Buzz changes his philosophy of not guarding the three, this game will get ugly in a hurry
+1 It's the only thing that matters. If they get 35 attempts again from '3', we lose.
Quote from: Untucked on February 19, 2014, 12:12:01 PM
Unless Buzz changes his philosophy of not guarding the three, this game will get ugly in a hurry
Of course this theory relies upon the faulty premis that Buzz has a philosophy if not guarding the three. Creighton is a team where you do need to pick your poison to some extent. If its me, I will invite McDermot to shoot 3s over me, but he's not getting in the lane. Of course that creates other potential issues, but if they're gonna beat me, its going to be because McDermott is making his 3s or giving it up to other guys, not getting in the lane or to the line.
Quote from: esard2011 on February 19, 2014, 10:33:59 AM
Cause weve had so much success pressing this year...Just let Derrick do his thing and hopefully its enough to where Dougie doesnt get as many touches as he normally does. I think its all about limiting his touches rather then just hoping to guard him with the ball.
Agree. We need to turn them over and one way is to play them high forcing bad passes, cutting off the passing lanes, hitting the ball from behind when CU brings the ball up, out hustling them, be aggressive and take some chances going for the steal. Do nothing and McDouggie scores, so take defensive chances necessary to disrupt their game. A little or a lot of Louisville's chaos defense is needed.