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Title: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 13, 2014, 12:03:40 AM
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Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: LAMUfan on February 13, 2014, 08:11:31 AM
Is it dumb that I want that?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: GGGG on February 13, 2014, 08:45:42 AM
Gold>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Golden Eagles
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 08:55:14 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 13, 2014, 08:45:42 AM
Gold>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Golden Eagles
Gold over the lame Golden eagles any day. But it should still be the Warriors. Here we go now, as the PC Warriors come out to say that is discriminatory, and that we will never go back to that.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: warriorchick on February 13, 2014, 09:04:41 AM
LOL


http://www.youtube.com/v/DOFAnpb8I3E?version=3
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on February 13, 2014, 09:07:39 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 13, 2014, 08:45:42 AM
Gold>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Golden Eagles

Old argument, but I like the idea of dropping a mascot all-together, and just becoming "Marquette."
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on February 13, 2014, 09:04:41 AM
LOL


http://www.youtube.com/v/DOFAnpb8I3E?version=3
And we all know, or should know what he is playing with behind the screen. By the way, did Myers not play 4 roles in that movie? Dr. Evil, Goldmember, Powers, and Fat bastard?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: warriorchick on February 13, 2014, 09:18:21 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 09:08:50 AM
And we all know, or should know what he is playing with behind the screen. By the way, did Myers not play 4 roles in that movie? Dr. Evil, Goldmember, Powers, and Fat bastard?

I keep waiting for the next Austin Powers movie to come out.  Everything Michael Myers has done since has been crap.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Aughnanure on February 13, 2014, 09:35:57 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 13, 2014, 08:45:42 AM
Gold>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Golden Eagles

This. Never understood the complete freak out that happened after it was announced.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: frozena pizza on February 13, 2014, 09:38:19 AM
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on February 13, 2014, 09:07:39 AM
Old argument, but I like the idea of dropping a mascot all-together, and just becoming "Marquette."

The Marquette Marquetters.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: SERocks on February 13, 2014, 09:40:41 AM
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on February 13, 2014, 09:07:39 AM
Old argument, but I like the idea of dropping a mascot all-together, and just becoming "Marquette."

Me too.  We don't need a mascot and then we also won't be disenfranchising an entire group of MU Grads by changing/taking away their nickname. 

We Are Marquette!
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: DienerTime34 on February 13, 2014, 09:43:33 AM
It continues to boggle the mind that grown men care so much about a mascot. Most outgrow stuffed animals and cartoon characters in grade school.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 13, 2014, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: SERocks on February 13, 2014, 09:40:41 AM
Me too.  We don't need a mascot and then we also won't be disenfranchising an entire group of MU Grads by changing/taking away their nickname

We Are Marquette!

I'm no fan of the Golden Eagles nickname, but there are about 20 years worth of students who might disagree with you.  I suspect quite a few of them would feel that dropping the Golden Eagles nickname would be "disenfranchising an entire group of MU Grads by taking away their nickname."
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Coleman on February 13, 2014, 09:55:50 AM
Quote from: DienerTime34 on February 13, 2014, 09:43:33 AM
It continues to boggle the mind that grown men care so much about a mascot. Most outgrow stuffed animals and cartoon characters in grade school.

I sort of agree. Who really cares. Warriors, Golden Eagles, Gold, whatever.

I would have been down for Hilltoppers. Just go old school and end the debate there. I just want the debate over. Its a waste of time and energy. But really, the only one who keeps the debate going anymore is a very small minority.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 13, 2014, 10:00:08 AM
The truth of the matter is with each passing year the Warrior alums are dying off and the Golden Eagle alums will begin to outnumber them.

Over time, Marquette won't have to deal with this issue anymore.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 13, 2014, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 13, 2014, 10:00:08 AM
The truth of the matter is with each passing year the Warrior alums are dying off and the Golden Eagle alums will begin to outnumber them.

Over time, Marquette won't have to deal with this issue anymore.

Unless, of course, they drop the Golden Eagles nickname and start the clock running all over again.  I wonder how long it would take for a successful GE alum (DWade maybe?) to offer $1 million to change the name back.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Coleman on February 13, 2014, 10:09:56 AM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 13, 2014, 10:03:40 AM
Unless, of course, they drop the Golden Eagles nickname and start the clock running all over again.  I wonder how long it would take for a successful GE alum (DWade maybe?) to offer $1 million to change the name back.

They would never change the name back for a million. IIRC, they were offered way more than that 10 years ago and still said no.

Honestly, any change is going to piss of some constituency of donors. They are better off with status quo if money is concerned.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Norm on February 13, 2014, 10:18:59 AM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 13, 2014, 09:50:32 AM
I'm no fan of the Golden Eagles nickname, but there are about 20 years worth of students who might disagree with you.  I suspect quite a few of them would feel that dropping the Golden Eagles nickname would be "disenfranchising an entire group of MU Grads by taking away their nickname."
I doubt it. I have family who graduated in '99, '02, '05, '10 and a current junior at the school, and hanging out with them and their MU friends I've asked them about the nickname and all of them dislike the Golden Eagle. Some would like to see the Warriors come back, some don't care, but none really likes the Golden Eagle.

I say bring back the Warriors, but keep the eagle as the mascot, that way we can further distance MU from the Indian imagery.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: MarsupialMadness on February 13, 2014, 10:26:22 AM
I agree, I don't see why anyone really cares anymore.  MU has done a pretty good job of not displaying the Golden Eagle name or logo on most of it's merchandise and marketing efforts... really pushed it to the background for the most part.  Really the only time you see it is through the media (and of course the mascot).
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 13, 2014, 10:28:19 AM
If we had gone to golden warriors they'd have a hard time saying it was racist or offensive.

But at Phonathon you guys would be surprised how many people say they won't donate again till the name gets changed back. I don't mind either way because the bottom line is "the name on the front of jersey is a hell of a lot more important..." (Miracle)
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Coleman on February 13, 2014, 10:32:07 AM
Quote from: MarsupialMadness on February 13, 2014, 10:26:22 AM
I agree, I don't see why anyone really cares anymore.  MU has done a pretty good job of not displaying the Golden Eagle name or logo on most of it's merchandise and marketing efforts... really pushed it to the background for the most part.  Really the only time you see it is through the media (and of course the mascot).

You are right, although an exception to this I have found is the radio broadcast. Its all over the place "Golden Eagle basketball brought to you by...." "Official sponsor of the Golden Eagles," etc. etc.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: BenCat12 on February 13, 2014, 10:36:47 AM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 13, 2014, 10:28:19 AM
If we had gone to golden warriors they'd have a hard time saying it was racist or offensive.

But at Phonathon you guys would be surprised how many people say they won't donate again till the name gets changed back. I don't mind either way because the bottom line is "the name on the front of jersey is a hell of a lot more important..." (Miracle)
The people who claim "Warriors" is offensive, find everything offensive.  It is who they are.  Nothing better to do.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 13, 2014, 10:38:19 AM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on February 13, 2014, 10:09:56 AM
They would never change the name back for a million. IIRC, they were offered way more than that 10 years ago and still said no.

Honestly, any change is going to piss of some constituency of donors. They are better off with status quo if money is concerned.
They didn't exactly say "no." The offer initiated a re-vote, which was obviously mishandled.

All you people talking about Golden Eagles are insane. If we switched back to Warriors with a non denominational (or better yet, a Joan of Arc) mascot nobody would complain.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 10:51:01 AM
Quote from: BenCat12 on February 13, 2014, 10:36:47 AM
The people who claim "Warriors" is offensive, find everything offensive.  It is who they are.  Nothing better to do.
Yup--and Golden warriors would be considered a slight to the Indian warrior.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 10:54:59 AM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 13, 2014, 10:03:40 AM
Unless, of course, they drop the Golden Eagles nickname and start the clock running all over again.  I wonder how long it would take for a successful GE alum (DWade maybe?) to offer $1 million to change the name back.
Right--it is all about "Youth shall be served". Nothing about the glory years of the warriors--and nothing done since that compares. Kind of like the modern day mantra "We don't need no stinking constitution". Forget about history, heritage, etc. And please do not come back with Warrior is discriminatory.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 10:57:50 AM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on February 13, 2014, 09:55:50 AM
I sort of agree. Who really cares. Warriors, Golden Eagles, Gold, whatever.

I would have been down for Hilltoppers. Just go old school and end the debate there. I just want the debate over. Its a waste of time and energy. But really, the only one who keeps the debate going anymore is a very small minority.
Yeah sure--but debating about the Coaches, PG, PF, RPI, schedule, recruits etc. is all OK. "At this point in time Senator, what difference does it really make" Who cares--the debate is over.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 13, 2014, 11:09:17 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 10:54:59 AM
Right--it is all about "Youth shall be served". Nothing about the glory years of the warriors--and nothing done since that compares. Kind of like the modern day mantra "We don't need no stinking constitution". Forget about history, heritage, etc. And please do not come back with Warrior is discriminatory.

I kind of thought my login name would give an indication of where I stand on the issue.  I would love for it to return to the Warriors, but don't think that will ever happen.  I was just pointing out that the "over time they won't have to deal with this anymore" comment is only true if they stay with the status quo.  If they make any sort of change, that will just keep the issue alive for another decade or two.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2014, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 13, 2014, 10:38:19 AM
They didn't exactly say "no." The offer initiated a re-vote, which was obviously mishandled.

All you people talking about Golden Eagles are insane. If we switched back to Warriors with a non denominational (or better yet, a Joan of Arc) mascot nobody would complain.

Someone would complain, someone always does.

That being said, that is the right solution and has been for 2 decades now.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 13, 2014, 11:16:24 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 10:54:59 AM
Right--it is all about "Youth shall be served". Nothing about the glory years of the warriors--and nothing done since that compares. Kind of like the modern day mantra "We don't need no stinking constitution". Forget about history, heritage, etc. And please do not come back with Warrior is discriminatory.

que political debate in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Henry Sugar on February 13, 2014, 11:33:39 AM
Quote from: Norm on February 13, 2014, 10:18:59 AM
I doubt it. I have family who graduated in '99, '02, '05, '10 and a current junior at the school, and hanging out with them and their MU friends I've asked them about the nickname and all of them dislike the Golden Eagle. Some would like to see the Warriors come back, some don't care, but none really likes the Golden Eagle.

I say bring back the Warriors, but keep the eagle as the mascot, that way we can further distance MU from the Indian imagery.

All of this, but especially the part in bold.

Golden Eagles is the worst mascot in sports.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Dawson Rental on February 13, 2014, 11:42:39 AM
Quote from: frozena pizza on February 13, 2014, 09:38:19 AM
The Marquette Marquetters.

Yeah!

The Marquetting Marquette Marquetters Marquettingly Marquetted you up!
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: humanlung on February 13, 2014, 11:46:40 AM
Marquette Utterly Neutrals.

With the possible exception of cows, this should end all debate on offending any group.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: mr.MUskie on February 13, 2014, 12:08:52 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 13, 2014, 10:38:19 AM
They didn't exactly say "no." The offer initiated a re-vote, which was obviously mishandled.

All you people talking about Golden Eagles are insane. If we switched back to Warriors with a non denominational (or better yet, a Joan of Arc) mascot nobody would complain.


WARRIORS!

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/028/b/1/joan_of_arc_by_dashinvaine-d4nvcoz.jpg)
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: nathanziarek on February 13, 2014, 12:17:31 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 10:54:59 AMKind of like the modern day mantra "We don't need no stinking constitution"

What in god's name are you rambling on about?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: nathanziarek on February 13, 2014, 12:19:21 PM
Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 13, 2014, 11:33:39 AMGolden Eagles is the worst mascot in sports.

It's bland, no doubt, but golden eagles are vicious, awesome animals. I can see why they went with it initially.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Avenue Commons on February 13, 2014, 12:21:32 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 13, 2014, 08:45:42 AM
Gold>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Golden Eagles

+Eleventy Billion
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: bradley center bat on February 13, 2014, 12:24:20 PM
Quote from: frozena pizza on February 13, 2014, 09:38:19 AM
The Marquette Marquetters.
Marquette MUers
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: MU82 on February 13, 2014, 12:31:27 PM
I still can't believe my write-in vote for The Blue was ignored!
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 13, 2014, 12:33:12 PM
Current student here. I really doubt MU will ever go back to the Warriors but that doesnt stop the student section from chanting "Lets go Warriors" I as well as many other students have Warrior t-shirts. But since I know the admin will never change it back i say we go to something they would change it to, like the hilltoppers for example.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: mujivitz06 on February 13, 2014, 12:50:01 PM
Please someone make the point that everyone is missing. Is Golden Eagles better than Lightning? I'm sure you would all be crying if we were the lightning for the last 20 years. What a tired, annoying debate.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: Utile et Dulce on February 13, 2014, 12:17:31 PM
What in god's name are you rambling on about?
Think about it--maybe it will dawn upon you.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 01:03:07 PM
Quote from: Henry Sugar on February 13, 2014, 11:33:39 AM
All of this, but especially the part in bold.

Golden Eagles is the worst mascot in sports.
And the one that dances on the court is as ugly as Blueteaux.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 01:05:25 PM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 13, 2014, 11:16:24 AM
que political debate in 3...2...1...
Ha--it did not come and by the way, "que" is what in Spanish. "Cue" is the correct terminology you were searching for.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Coleman on February 13, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 01:03:07 PM
And the one that dances on the court is as ugly as Blueteaux.

watch it
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: leever on February 13, 2014, 01:06:58 PM
How about Marquette Scoopers.

Chicos could be the mascot.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 01:15:58 PM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on February 13, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
watch it
Sorry, no offense intended--but does the truth hurt?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 13, 2014, 01:22:04 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 01:05:25 PM
Ha--it did not come and by the way, "que" is what in Spanish. "Cue" is the correct terminology you were searching for.

Very true it didn't shame on you for almost starting one though. And thank you for that correction. 
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 01:28:06 PM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 13, 2014, 01:22:04 PM
Very true it didn't shame on you for almost starting one though. And thank you for that correction. 
Wasn't trying to start one, just an analogy to current culture. We can agree on Warriors, can't we?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 13, 2014, 06:23:49 PM
I actually don't think anyone on this site is opposed to Warriors. I would love to be the Warriors again. I also think most of the current students would embrace it. I also think it is possible. In order for it to happen, we need to stop praising the old Indian mascots. No more Willie Wampum. no more Indians as avatar pictures, and no more headresses in the student section.

The only thing blocking us from being the Warriors is that the tribes believe that alumni and students would immediately break out all their old racist Warrior gear. Maybe if we stop, they could see that we could be a non-Indian Warrior.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: muwarrior69 on February 13, 2014, 06:46:25 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 13, 2014, 10:00:08 AM
The truth of the matter is with each passing year the Warrior alums are dying off and the Golden Eagle alums will begin to outnumber them.

Over time, Marquette won't have to deal with this issue anymore.

I think we Warriors should petition the government to declare us an endangered species.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 13, 2014, 06:59:19 PM
Guys. Guys! GUYS!

I think I found the answer to our mascot issues!












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Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: MUBasketball on February 13, 2014, 07:07:22 PM
Quote from: DienerTime34 on February 13, 2014, 09:43:33 AM
It continues to boggle the mind that grown men care so much about a mascot. Most outgrow stuffed animals and cartoon characters in grade school.

Exactly!!!!!!! Who cares? Lions, Tigers, Bears, Cardinals, Eagles....most nicknames are pretty generic and nobody else cares.

And anybody supporting Gold has lost their mind. It was loudly mocked and rightfully so.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 13, 2014, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: MUBasketball on February 13, 2014, 07:07:22 PM
Exactly!!!!!!! Who cares? Lions, Tigers, Bears, Cardinals, Eagles....most nicknames are pretty generic and nobody else cares.

And anybody supporting Gold has lost their mind. It was loudly mocked and rightfully so.

"Nah, I gotta go call somebody"
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on February 13, 2014, 07:15:26 PM
Quote from: MUBasketball on February 13, 2014, 07:07:22 PM
Exactly!!!!!!! Who cares? Lions, Tigers, Bears, Cardinals, Eagles....most nicknames are pretty generic and nobody else cares.

And anybody supporting Gold has lost their mind. It was loudly mocked and rightfully so.

Paragraph 1: Who cares about nicknames?
Paragraph 2: Those who liked Gold are insane and should be mocked.

Got it.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Warrior Code on February 13, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
I fully support the idea of going back to Warriors with Joan of Arc as the mascot. Does any other school have a female logo/mascot?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: warriorchick on February 13, 2014, 07:33:53 PM
Quote from: WarriorCode on February 13, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
I fully support the idea of going back to Warriors with Joan of Arc as the mascot. Does any other school have a female logo/mascot?

You might be onto something....go with the groundbreaking diversity angle......
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: MUBasketball on February 13, 2014, 07:34:30 PM
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on February 13, 2014, 07:15:26 PM
Paragraph 1: Who cares about nicknames?
Paragraph 2: Those who liked Gold are insane and should be mocked.

Got it.

Haha! Touche sir.

I dont care at all about nicknames, but c'mon seriously....Gold?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 13, 2014, 07:59:06 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on February 13, 2014, 07:33:53 PM
You might be onto something....go with the groundbreaking diversity angle......

I kind of like this idea...
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 13, 2014, 08:06:48 PM
Quote from: WarriorCode on February 13, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
I fully support the idea of going back to Warriors with Joan of Arc as the mascot. Does any other school have a female logo/mascot?

Been saying this forever - go the warrior woman angle and suddenly many of the PC left leaners become allies. Consensus building 101.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 13, 2014, 08:30:07 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 13, 2014, 08:06:48 PM
Been saying this forever - go the warrior woman angle and suddenly many of the PC left leaners become allies. Consensus building 101.

as long as Joan is kinda slutty, ZFB is on board.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: mr.MUskie on February 13, 2014, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 13, 2014, 08:30:07 PM
as long as Joan is kinda slutty, ZFB is on board.


I was thinking we give her short hair and get the lesbian vote.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: wildbill sb on February 13, 2014, 08:34:00 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on February 13, 2014, 07:33:53 PM
You might be onto something....go with the groundbreaking diversity angle......

I agree, and it does have a tie in to the history of MU being the first Catholic institution of higher education to admit women into degree-granting programs.  (I think I stated that accurately.)  And we do have the Joan of Arc chapel at the center of the campus, and legend has it that she actually prayed in said chapel. And the undergrad student population of MU is 50+% women.  And while we're at it, why not seriously consider a woman candidate for university president?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: mr.MUskie on February 13, 2014, 08:37:55 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 13, 2014, 08:30:07 PM
as long as Joan is kinda slutty, ZFB is on board.

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/008/a/4/joan_of_arc_cover__colors_by_dawn_mcteigue-d5qx34o.jpg)
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 13, 2014, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: wildbill sb on February 13, 2014, 08:34:00 PM
And while we're at it, why not seriously consider a woman candidate for university president?
Now you're being ridiculous.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: mr.MUskie on February 13, 2014, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 13, 2014, 08:38:14 PM
Now you're being ridiculous.

Yeah, that's just crazy talk.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: wildbill sb on February 13, 2014, 08:44:06 PM
Not at all.  There are women presidents at many major universities.  Why not MU?  
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: warriorchick on February 13, 2014, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on February 13, 2014, 08:37:55 PM
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/008/a/4/joan_of_arc_cover__colors_by_dawn_mcteigue-d5qx34o.jpg)

Careful there.  Joan was a teenager.  You are flirting with child pornography charges.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Coleman on February 13, 2014, 10:12:21 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 13, 2014, 06:23:49 PM
I actually don't think anyone on this site is opposed to Warriors. I would love to be the Warriors again. I also think most of the current students would embrace it. I also think it is possible. In order for it to happen, we need to stop praising the old Indian mascots. No more Willie Wampum. no more Indians as avatar pictures, and no more headresses in the student section.

The only thing blocking us from being the Warriors is that the tribes believe that alumni and students would immediately break out all their old racist Warrior gear. Maybe if we stop, they could see that we could be a non-Indian Warrior.

You've nailed it. Unfortunately that isn't going to happen anytime soon
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Coleman on February 13, 2014, 10:29:54 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on February 13, 2014, 08:45:57 PM
Careful there.  Joan was a teenager.  You are flirting with child pornography charges.

19 when she died
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 13, 2014, 10:32:50 PM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on February 13, 2014, 10:29:54 PM
19 when she died

No gripes here. Only 20 so it doesnt sound weird. I actually think I have some friends who would make great candidates for the JoA mascot.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 13, 2014, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: esard2011 on February 13, 2014, 10:32:50 PM
No gripes here. Only 20 so it doesnt sound weird. I actually think I have some friends who would make great candidates for the JoA mascot.

give that biscuit a spear and a horse, galloping around the BC, screaming a war cry with a single breast exposed.  I'll pony up a $100k I4 donation.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 13, 2014, 11:09:46 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 13, 2014, 10:51:05 PM
give that biscuit a spear and a horse, galloping around the BC, screaming a war cry with a single breast exposed.  I'll pony up a $100k I4 donation.

Thats very specific.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 13, 2014, 11:13:22 PM
Quote from: esard2011 on February 13, 2014, 11:09:46 PM
Thats very specific.

gotta have vision, bro.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: T.V. Diener 34 on February 13, 2014, 11:30:04 PM
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on February 13, 2014, 07:15:26 PM
Paragraph 1: Who cares about nicknames?
Paragraph 2: Those who liked Gold are insane and should be mocked.

Got it.

I lol'd
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2014, 11:55:20 PM
Quote from: DienerTime34 on February 13, 2014, 09:43:33 AM
It continues to boggle the mind that grown men care so much about a mascot. Most outgrow stuffed animals and cartoon characters in grade school.

I could give 8 craps about the mascot, I care about the name.

Just as if you were to take away the name "Packers", you would have a rebellion in the state of Wisconsin.  If you were to take away the name Knicks, New Yorkers would burn Gotham.

The mascot doesn't mean crap, it's the name and more importantly, its the fact that a bunch of PC liberal bastards changed it for an incredibly stupid reason.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: jesmu84 on February 14, 2014, 12:03:49 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2014, 11:55:20 PM
I could give 8 craps about the mascot, I care about the name.

Just as if you were to take away the name "Packers", you would have a rebellion in the state of Wisconsin.  If you were to take away the name Knicks, New Yorkers would burn Gotham.

The mascot doesn't mean crap, it's the name and more importantly, its the fact that a bunch of PC liberal bastards changed it for an incredibly stupid reason.

I'm a younger guy, so I don't know the whole story in detail, but I thought the incredibly stupid reason = $$$?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 14, 2014, 01:05:49 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 14, 2014, 12:03:49 AM
I'm a younger guy, so I don't know the whole story in detail, but I thought the incredibly stupid reason = $$$?

DiUlio changed from Warriors to Golden Eagles for money?

No

Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: keefe on February 14, 2014, 01:08:08 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 14, 2014, 01:05:49 AM
DiUlio changed from Warriors to Golden Eagles for money?

No



If memory serves, there was a financial dimension to the decision. Didn't the Potawatami's offer some incentives for the change?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 14, 2014, 01:31:41 AM
Quote from: keefe on February 14, 2014, 01:08:08 AM
If memory serves, there was a financial dimension to the decision. Didn't the Potawatami's offer some incentives for the change?

He said he changed it because human beings shouldn't be mascots.  Was their financial gain in addition, who knows.  Would DiUlio say one thing and not the whole story....I'll let others decide.

In his liberal paternalism he said, "it was simply the right thing to do.  The decision will not be reversed'.   Translation:  Father Al knows best and you can pound sand.


Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: keefe on February 14, 2014, 02:36:12 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 14, 2014, 01:31:41 AM
He said he changed it because human beings shouldn't be mascots. 

Did he tell Purdue?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: warriorchick on February 14, 2014, 07:42:57 AM
Quote from: keefe on February 14, 2014, 02:36:12 AM
Did he tell Purdue?

Or West Virginia?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: dgies9156 on February 14, 2014, 07:46:06 AM
My nickname idea is still open....

The Marquette Inquisition -- named after a wonderful period of time in part brought to you by the Jesuits. Think of what we could do to a heretic at halftime!

The Marquette Flames -- Named after the centerpiece of our campus, St. Joan of Arc church. I don't want to think about what we could do to a cheerleader at halftime!

I suggested both when Father DiUlio asked for recommendations on the nickname. Funny, I never heard back from him, thanking me for my ideas!
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: dgies9156 on February 14, 2014, 07:49:01 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 01:03:07 PM
And the one that dances on the court is as ugly as Blueteaux.

HE'S A FURRY BIRD!!!!!!!

WHO HAS EVER HEARD OF A FRICKIN FURRY BIRD???????????????
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 14, 2014, 08:09:32 AM
Quote from: dgies9156 on February 14, 2014, 07:46:06 AM
I suggested both when Father DiUlio asked for recommendations on the nickname. Funny, I never heard back from him, thanking me for my ideas!

I suggested the Fighting Conformists.  He didn't respond to me either.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: dgies9156 on February 14, 2014, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 14, 2014, 08:09:32 AM
I suggested the Fighting Conformists.  He didn't respond to me either.

No wonder he was bounced as President. Important alumni with meaningful ideas and we didn't hear from him!

Father doesn't always know best!
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: dgies9156 on February 14, 2014, 10:48:32 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 14, 2014, 01:31:41 AM
He said he changed it because human beings shouldn't be mascots. 

Or Florida State? (Seminoles)

Or Southern California? (Trojans)

Or BYU? (Pioneers)

Or Western Illinois University? (Leathernecks)


Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 14, 2014, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: dgies9156 on February 14, 2014, 10:48:32 AM

Or BYU? (Pioneers)

I've never heard that.  Were they the Pioneers before they became the Cougars?
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: GGGG on February 14, 2014, 11:22:18 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 14, 2014, 01:31:41 AM
He said he changed it because human beings shouldn't be mascots.  Was their financial gain in addition, who knows.  Would DiUlio say one thing and not the whole story....I'll let others decide.


I fully believe that he would do so.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: willie warrior on February 14, 2014, 11:23:17 AM
Quote from: dgies9156 on February 14, 2014, 10:48:32 AM
Or Florida State? (Seminoles)

Or Southern California? (Trojans)

Or BYU? (Pioneers)

Or Western Illinois University? (Leathernecks)



Man, too bad for USC--how embarrassing to be named after a prophylactic. Of course supporters of USC can always argue that they are safe, healthy, protective, and when used properly can provide additional pleasure/satisfaction.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: GGGG on February 14, 2014, 11:26:42 AM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on February 13, 2014, 08:37:55 PM
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/008/a/4/joan_of_arc_cover__colors_by_dawn_mcteigue-d5qx34o.jpg)


This might be the single greatest idea ever generated by Scoopers.

But of course it would make the Warrior debate look mild by comparison.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 14, 2014, 11:28:22 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 14, 2014, 11:26:42 AM

This might be the single greatest idea ever generated by Scoopers.

But of course it would make the Warrior debate look mild by comparison.

I feel like there would be a lot of angry females on campus.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: GGGG on February 14, 2014, 11:31:30 AM
Quote from: esard2011 on February 14, 2014, 11:28:22 AM
I feel like there would be a lot of angry females on campus.


Not to mention the entire country of France.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 14, 2014, 11:33:39 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 14, 2014, 11:31:30 AM

Not to mention the entire country of France.

From a military strength standpoint...same difference.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Earl Tatum on February 14, 2014, 11:43:17 AM
IT'S WARRIORS, WARRIORS, WARRIORS! WARRIORS! Why in the HELL are the good padres so afraid
of the Native Americans who think different. I would be proud of the name WARRIORS. All WARRIORS are not native americans. The "Gold" sucks and Golden Eagles just as bad. So. it's WARRIORS Dammit. I don't care
all you people think. GO MU!
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: seakm4 on February 14, 2014, 02:01:59 PM
How much did Barry Bonds' 73rd home run ball go for?  Should we all pool in ad buy this and imprint an asterisks on it, or we could go more ritualistic and blow it up like the chubbies fans did for steve bartman's interfered foul ball.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: dgies9156 on February 14, 2014, 03:34:09 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 14, 2014, 10:54:34 AM
I've never heard that.  Were they the Pioneers before they became the Cougars?

Ooops... my lunacy

Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: AZWarrior on February 14, 2014, 03:58:38 PM
Quote from: esard2011 on February 14, 2014, 11:28:22 AM
I feel like there would be a lot of angry females on campus.

Envious, perhaps.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: keefe on February 14, 2014, 04:03:31 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on February 14, 2014, 07:46:06 AM
My nickname idea is still open....


The Marquette Flames --


I think that nickname has already been taken


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VnO-neKMYSs/TyU2B3ydkDI/AAAAAAAAA0U/ZG6tYN_iuIg/s400/2728779512_bb2ef7cb67.jpg)
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Dawson Rental on February 14, 2014, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: keefe on February 14, 2014, 02:36:12 AM
Did he tell Purdue?

Quote from: warriorchick on February 14, 2014, 07:42:57 AM
Or West Virginia?

Quote from: dgies9156 on February 14, 2014, 10:48:32 AM
Or Florida State? (Seminoles)

Or Southern California? (Trojans)

Or Western Illinois University? (Leathernecks)

Or, I don't know, Notre Dame?

Simple change, they could become the paddy wagons.  They could have an old time one circle the field after touchdowns, and it would be on hand to deal with the new inebriated fan threat!
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Dawson Rental on February 14, 2014, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 14, 2014, 11:31:30 AM

Not to mention the entire country of France.

France: "We want our chapel back.  We've suddenly realized that it is a prized cultural icon."
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 14, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
DiUlio wanted a legacy.

Changing Warriors after my freshman year was his legacy.
For better or for worse.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: keefe on February 14, 2014, 06:32:38 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on February 14, 2014, 04:22:33 PM
France: "We want our chapel back.  We've suddenly realized that it is a prized cultural icon."

I guess they could say that after they return all of the cultural artifacts they took from Africa, Asia, and Oceana. I love the fact that obelisks lasted for thousands of years in Egypt and the Middle East but have decayed significantly since being installed outdoors in France.

 
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 14, 2014, 06:46:32 PM
Quote from: esard2011 on February 14, 2014, 11:28:22 AM
I feel like there would be a lot of angry females on campus.

You think?   ;)    The fems would be in convulsions.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: chapman on February 14, 2014, 07:50:51 PM
We should be the Interims.  It's a unique name, and fitting since pretty much everyone employed by the university has an Interim tag.  And whatever character we put out as a mascot wouldn't have to last long, since it would be the Interim mascot.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 14, 2014, 10:02:48 PM
Quote from: chapman on February 14, 2014, 07:50:51 PM
We should be the Interims.  It's a unique name, and fitting since pretty much everyone employed by the university has an Interim tag.  And whatever character we put out as a mascot wouldn't have to last long, since it would be the Interim mascot.

+1
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Tums Festival on February 15, 2014, 06:41:21 PM
I've never liked the Golden part of the current nickname, why not just the Eagles since we have to be called something.

We were the Warriors when I was a student and that's the nickname I'll always identify with.
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: 79Warrior on February 15, 2014, 06:56:52 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 14, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
DiUlio wanted a legacy.

Changing Warriors after my freshman year was his legacy.
For better or for worse.

No. His legacy is damn near destroying the University. The name chane was one of many miscues by him,
Title: Re: Proof Marquette Still Wants to be The Gold
Post by: Earl Tatum on February 15, 2014, 09:34:09 PM
For That DiUlio Sucks
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