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Title: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: jficke13 on February 12, 2014, 10:39:17 PM
Watch him upstage a game by ejecting a fan:

http://deadspin.com/referee-ejects-unruly-front-row-memphis-fan-1521849551

Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: Boozemon Barro on February 12, 2014, 11:14:28 PM
(http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/947188/jim-burr-s-drunken-jig-o.gif)
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: River rat on February 12, 2014, 11:30:01 PM
meanwhile there is a near meltdown in Bloomington.  Fans are really questioning clappy the clown.  comments usch as " this is what we have from Crean in year 6 at a program like Indiana??!!"
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 12, 2014, 11:55:30 PM
Quote from: River rat on February 12, 2014, 11:30:01 PM
meanwhile there is a near meltdown in Bloomington.  Fans are really questioning clappy the clown.  comments usch as " this is what we have from Crean in year 6 at a program like Indiana??!!"

Smile, fellow MUers.

Though not as high hopes as the Hoosier base, our both our teams are 14-10 but we're 6-5 in conference play (they're 4-7).

Delicious tears... http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/conversation?gameId=400510025

They'll probably beat Purdue, but if they don't...Hoosier fans will want his head!

Watch I4 tackle the difficult questions: http://indiana.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1609308
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: brandx on February 13, 2014, 01:36:40 AM
Quote from: River rat on February 12, 2014, 11:30:01 PM
meanwhile there is a near meltdown in Bloomington.  Fans are really questioning clappy the clown.  comments usch as " this is what we have from Crean in year 6 at a program like Indiana??!!"

And that is with at 2 probable lottery picks on the team.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: kryza on February 13, 2014, 02:11:45 AM
Quote from: River rat on February 12, 2014, 11:30:01 PM
meanwhile there is a near meltdown in Bloomington.  Fans are really questioning clappy the clown.  comments usch as " this is what we have from Crean in year 6 at a program like Indiana??!!"

I've never been a Crean basher, but his post-game comments (http://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/12/video-tom-crean-reacts-loss-penn-state/) were ridiculous. Blaming the entire loss on a bunch of 18-23 year olds? That's a new low for him.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 13, 2014, 02:12:57 AM
nvm
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: g0lden3agle on February 13, 2014, 06:29:15 AM
How did Tom Crean get into my Jim Burr thread?
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: NavinRJohnson on February 13, 2014, 07:48:25 AM
Quote from: kryza on February 13, 2014, 02:11:45 AM
I've never been a Crean basher, but his post-game comments (http://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/12/video-tom-crean-reacts-loss-penn-state/) were ridiculous. Blaming the entire loss on a bunch of 18-23 year olds? That's a new low for him.

Idk. ID love to agree with you, but aside from his pud whack attitude, I don't really have an issue with anything he said there.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 09:04:33 AM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 12, 2014, 11:55:30 PM
Smile, fellow MUers.

Though not as high hopes as the Hoosier base, our both our teams are 14-10 but we're 6-5 in conference play (they're 4-7).

Delicious tears... http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/conversation?gameId=400510025

They'll probably beat Purdue, but if they don't...Hoosier fans will want his head!

Watch I4 tackle the difficult questions: http://indiana.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1609308
Gee, too bad for Crean if he gets the axe--which IMO that would not happen this year. And doesn't he have about 5 or 6 years on his contract left? If so, he will have plenty of walking around money to hang with the Harbaughs for a few years. And somebody else would snap him up immediately, to which he can respond: "It was Indiana, It was Indiana" Hell, ESPN would probably hire him for their Sunday football show--they need a couple more guys to make an even dozen, and he could offer fascinating analysis on the Harbaugh brothers.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 13, 2014, 09:11:55 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 09:04:33 AM
Gee, too bad for Crean if he gets the axe--which IMO that would not happen this year. And doesn't he have about 5 or 6 years on his contract left? If so, he will have plenty of walking around money to hang with the Harbaughs for a few years. And somebody else would snap him up immediately, to which he can respond: "It was Indiana, It was Indiana" Hell, ESPN would probably hire him for their Sunday football show--they need a couple more guys to make an even dozen, and he could offer fascinating analysis on the Harbaugh brothers.

CTC would actually be great on ESPN as an analyst.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: Newsdreams on February 13, 2014, 09:28:02 AM
TC to Depaul
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: MerrittsMustache on February 13, 2014, 09:35:17 AM
Quote from: g0lden3agle on February 13, 2014, 06:29:15 AM
How did Tom Crean get into my Jim Burr thread?

And why hasn't the Derrick-Dawson debate gotten here yet?

Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: connie on February 13, 2014, 09:41:23 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 13, 2014, 09:35:17 AM
And why hasn't the Derrick-Dawson debate gotten here yet?


I thought we morphed that one into Jake/JJJ?

I'm behind. :-\
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: JWags85 on February 13, 2014, 09:44:50 AM
Quote from: newsdrms on February 13, 2014, 09:28:02 AM
TC to Depaul

Honestly, thats the kind of program he could probably do alright at.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 10:59:46 AM
Quote from: newsdrms on February 13, 2014, 09:28:02 AM
TC to Depaul
Better yet--to Bucky IF Bo ever retires.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: Tommy Brice for Coach on February 13, 2014, 11:05:04 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 10:59:46 AM
Better yet--to Bucky IF Bo ever retires.

Either one of these would make for an awesome rivalry for us... I'd love to see him go to DPU or UW
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 13, 2014, 11:09:14 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 13, 2014, 09:11:55 AM
CTC would actually be great on ESPN as an analyst.

You think? The TC I've encountered has never uttered an original sentence. He's a walking cliche'. If that's what they want out of an analyst, I suppose.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: GooooMarquette on February 13, 2014, 11:47:23 AM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 13, 2014, 11:09:14 AM
You think? The TC I've encountered has never uttered an original sentence. He's a walking cliche'. If that's what they want out of an analyst, I suppose.

They seem to like that out of Dukie V.....
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: Dawson Rental on February 13, 2014, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: g0lden3agle on February 13, 2014, 06:29:15 AM
How did Tom Crean get into my Jim Burr thread?

See the gun?  Just get out from behind the wheel of this thread, watch us drive away and no one gets hurt.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 13, 2014, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: chuncken on February 13, 2014, 11:05:04 AM
Either one of these would make for an awesome rivalry for us... I'd love to see him go to DPU or UW

UW- Milwaukee
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2014, 01:07:10 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 12, 2014, 11:55:30 PM
Smile, fellow MUers.

Though not as high hopes as the Hoosier base, our both our teams are 14-10 but we're 6-5 in conference play (they're 4-7).

Delicious tears... http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/conversation?gameId=400510025

They'll probably beat Purdue, but if they don't...Hoosier fans will want his head!

Watch I4 tackle the difficult questions: http://indiana.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1609308

They play in the Big Ten, we don't.  Kind of hard to compare conference records.  They beat Wisconsin, we didn't.  Would we beat Michigan...doubtful.  OSU beat us, be curious to see how they do against OSU.  In fact, we're 0-2 against the Big Ten this year.  IU is what IU is this year, a team that lost four 1000 point starters and they've struggled.

Go to the UW board 3 weeks ago, they wanted Bo Ryan fired.  Go to the UNC board a month ago, they wanted Roy Williams fired.  Go to the UCLA board 2 weeks ago, Alford should be fired.  Etc, etc.

Did you know that Jim Burr has worked 16 Final Fours.  On the heels of what happened with Mr. Smart the other day, not surprising.

Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 13, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2014, 01:07:10 PM

Did you know that Jim Burr has worked 16 Final Fours.  On the heels of what happened with Mr. Smart the other day, not surprising.



What Jim Burr has done in the past has no relation to the current time. He is an awful referee. He is the worst ref I have ever seen since I came to Marquette in 2011, bar none. I have never seen a game where Burr has reffed and said "Well that was good officiating" He needs to retire. I dont care what he has done in the past but the current Jim Burr is awful.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2014, 01:26:45 PM
Quote from: esard2011 on February 13, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
What Jim Burr has done in the past has no relation to the current time. He is an awful referee. He is the worst ref I have ever seen since I came to Marquette in 2011, bar none. I have never seen a game where Burr has reffed and said "Well that was good officiating" He needs to retire. I dont care what he has done in the past but the current Jim Burr is awful.

Didn't say otherwise....it was more tongue in cheek since the thread was, I think, about Jim Burr.

Don't worry, the second he retires someone here will anoint the next worst ref in the world that is screwing MU (and only MU) out of wins.   ;)
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: ATVSandKARATE on February 13, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
What I hate most about Jim Burr is his Blocking call. His old wobbly ass comes tumbling down the floor as he desperately tries to follow the play. He then does that dramatic "I need to hop on one foot while leaning on a 45 degree angle to stop" pose as he then violently slams his hands on his hips, as if almost telling us to "suck it." What an ass.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: hdog1017 on February 13, 2014, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: esard2011 on February 13, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
What Jim Burr has done in the past has no relation to the current time. He is an awful referee. He is the worst ref I have ever seen since I came to Marquette in 2011, bar none. I have never seen a game where Burr has reffed and said "Well that was good officiating" He needs to retire. I dont care what he has done in the past but the current Jim Burr is awful.

I echo everything you said about Jim Burr. 
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: River rat on February 13, 2014, 02:26:24 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2014, 01:07:10 PM
They play in the Big Ten, we don't.  Kind of hard to compare conference records.  They beat Wisconsin, we didn't.  Would we beat Michigan...doubtful.  OSU beat us, be curious to see how they do against OSU.  In fact, we're 0-2 against the Big Ten this year.  IU is what IU is this year, a team that lost four 1000 point starters and they've struggled.

Go to the UW board 3 weeks ago, they wanted Bo Ryan fired.  Go to the UNC board a month ago, they wanted Roy Williams fired.  Go to the UCLA board 2 weeks ago, Alford should be fired.  Etc, etc.

Did you know that Jim Burr has worked 16 Final Fours.  On the heels of what happened with Mr. Smart the other day, not surprising.



Like clockwork to Tommy's rescue!!  Must of been some incredible reach arounds he must have given you back in the day.  Did you have your beers before or after?
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2014, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: River rat on February 13, 2014, 02:26:24 PM
Like clockwork to Tommy's rescue!!  Must of been some incredible reach arounds he must have given you back in the day.  Did you have your beers before or after?



Classy.  I enjoyed your other usernames in the past, to be perfectly honest.  For someone with only 97 posts since December and so many dedicated to me personally, it's interesting.  I missed you.  Why did you take such a long break from the board?   ::)

I also know how people here would react if we lost four 1,000 point scorers from the most recent team and struggled the next year.  We would say, "we lost four 1,000 point scorers".  I mean, hell, we were actually picked to win the Big East this year and that was AFTER Vander had already left...we already get excuses.  Fans just seem to have one set of "standards" for their own team and a different one for other teams.  Go figure.

I really did miss you.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 13, 2014, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 13, 2014, 09:11:55 AM
CTC would actually be great on ESPN as an analyst.
He'd be horrendous. He's got zero personality, zero charisma and zero sense of humor. Other than that...he'd be Dick Vitale.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: Coleman on February 13, 2014, 04:30:30 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 13, 2014, 04:25:58 PM
He'd be horrendous. He's got zero personality, zero charisma and zero sense of humor. Other than that...he'd be Dick Vitale.

Bullsh!t, tan Tommy looks great on the screen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANsZfk5G8vA
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: River rat on February 13, 2014, 04:45:48 PM
chicos can make excuses for him all he wants.
 Everyone can see he is a horrible coach.  Mu fans had the same issues with him at MU, how many threads started on the fact that he needed to hire a older sage to help him with his lack of coaching ability.  yet his arrogance would not allow it and he just turned over young assistnts one after another.  i recall there were 2-3 years in a row where he lost his entire staff.  And few of them for better gigs.
When a coach is not a very good coach yet holds himself as an arrogant prick he gets alot of nicknames...one of my favorites is "Tommy Naismith" from Bob Huggins.
 What chicos is also glossy over and failing to defend is how they are losing.  They are getting out coached in the second half.  Coaches are pulling Buzz williams over Butler in the second half last week type moves on Crean.  Sad thing for IU, and us back in the day was it is still happening.  They throw something different or God forbid a zone at him and he soils himself.  How many times when he was at MU and now at IU do teams that literally never zone throw the zone at him.  he soils himself.  Still hasnt beaten Syracuse!! LOL
This year has been even more plaesurable as teams throw a change at IU late the large blown leads in the last minutes have been epic and downright comical.  The Titanic is sinking and ol Tommy Boy is just a pacing and clapping, taking a few hits from his diet cola and adjusting his ill-fitting pleated slacks.  My Goodness they were up 11 with 2 minutes left.  
I think the IU faithful are not as upset with the losses as the fact that they have a clueless coach blowing nice late leads and they know he is powerless against it.  It's a train wreck in slow motion and I need more popcorn!!  
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: mugrad2006 on February 13, 2014, 04:57:26 PM
Man I hate Jim Burr. My wife knows if he's calling a game I'll be insufferable to sit next to. And I don't think he has it out for MU, I think he's just terrible at his job now, regardless of past experience. The thing that gets me more than anything is the calls he makes when he's clearly not in position (ie calling a foul or possession on balls knocked out of bounds from half court when there's another ref right at the baseline on top of the play).
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: barfolomew on February 13, 2014, 05:05:53 PM
Quote from: ATVSandKARATE on February 13, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
He then does that dramatic "I need to hop on one foot while leaning on a 45 degree angle to stop" pose as he then violently slams his hands on his hips, as if almost telling us to "suck it." What an ass.

+1

"Burr (n.) - an annoying prick that often clings to one's pantleg"

I try not to call out officiating I think is unfair, because I know I'm biased, but I will call out bad officiating. He makes the game of basketball less enjoyable for those playing and watching.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: Logi4three on February 13, 2014, 09:46:26 PM
Quote from: barfolomew on February 13, 2014, 05:05:53 PM
+1

"Burr (n.) - an annoying prick that often clings to one's pantleg"

I try not to call out officiating I think is unfair, because I know I'm biased, but I will call out bad officiating. He makes the game of basketball less enjoyable for those playing and watching.


I completely understand that it is a thankless job and that I am biased as far as MU games go, but this year's officiating seems to be the worst I have ever seen (and that is as true for non-MU games as MU games).  Some games they call the new hand check calls, other games they let all out mauling.  A lot of Eurosteps seem to be getting the pass and phantom out of bounds.  I don't have the footage to prove my point, but I like to think that I am somewhat impartial on this issue (at least when MU is not involved).  Anyone else feel this way?  Anyone hear of others making the same complaint on other boards or any articles?
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 13, 2014, 10:08:05 PM
Quote from: MARQCAT on February 13, 2014, 09:46:26 PM
I completely understand that it is a thankless job and that I am biased as far as MU games go, but this year's officiating seems to be the worst I have ever seen (and that is as true for non-MU games as MU games).  Some games they call the new hand check calls, other games they let all out mauling.  A lot of Eurosteps seem to be getting the pass and phantom out of bounds.  I don't have the footage to prove my point, but I like to think that I am somewhat impartial on this issue (at least when MU is not involved).  Anyone else feel this way?  Anyone hear of others making the same complaint on other boards or any articles?

Agree with everything except the Eurostep. Technically its not a travel because youre picking up your dribble as you are taking that one jab step before you go up with the ball. Kind of like a jump stop except your only using one leg and keep your momentum going forward.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: keefe on February 14, 2014, 02:05:33 AM
Speaking of larger than life sports officiating, Bruce Froemming's son went to Marquette. Froemming was a regular at Marquette games.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: real chili 83 on February 14, 2014, 04:54:47 AM
Quote from: keefe on February 14, 2014, 02:05:33 AM
Speaking of larger than life sports officiating, Bruce Froemming's son went to Marquette. Froemming was a regular at Marquette games.

84 alum, if I recall.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: The Lens on February 14, 2014, 09:00:38 AM
Quote from: River rat on February 13, 2014, 04:45:48 PM

It's a train wreck in slow motion and I need more popcorn!!  


A fantastic line.  For a man who sometimes struggles with the paragraph, you went Keefe on that line.  Brilliant!
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 14, 2014, 10:09:19 AM
Ahoyaballscout, Canadian Dimes, Mr. Hayward, Blackswan, RiverRat,

Where you been?
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: willie warrior on February 14, 2014, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: mugrad2006 on February 13, 2014, 04:57:26 PM
Man I hate Jim Burr. My wife knows if he's calling a game I'll be insufferable to sit next to. And I don't think he has it out for MU, I think he's just terrible at his job now, regardless of past experience. The thing that gets me more than anything is the calls he makes when he's clearly not in position (ie calling a foul or possession on balls knocked out of bounds from half court when there's another ref right at the baseline on top of the play).
Agree on most of what you said on Burr, except I have no inside knowledge of you being insufferable. However, Burr definitely has a hate woody for MU, and especially Gardner. Don't know why about Gardner, except ,maybe Burr is jealous that Gardner has slimmed down and Burr hasn't.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 14, 2014, 11:33:34 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 14, 2014, 10:09:19 AM
Ahoyaballscout, Canadian Dimes, Mr. Hayward, Blackswan, RiverRat,

Where you been?


Hanging out with Hoopaloop?
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 14, 2014, 11:35:20 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 14, 2014, 11:32:23 AM
Agree on most of what you said on Burr, except I have no inside knowledge of you being insufferable. However, Burr definitely has a hate woody for MU, and especially Gardner. Don't know why about Gardner, except ,maybe Burr is jealous that Gardner has slimmed down and Burr hasn't.

Meh, I can easily see how refs can be irritated with Gardner. Tries to draw a lot of calls. Exaggerates a lot has a lot of those stupid plays where he walks through guys after a play with his hands up. I love Ox but I can easily see how he can annoy fans of opposing teams and refs.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: River rat on February 14, 2014, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: The Lens on February 14, 2014, 09:00:38 AM
A fantastic line.  For a man who sometimes struggles with the paragraph, you went Keefe on that line.  Brilliant!

Thank you... ;D

i chuckled at that one too. 
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: willie warrior on February 14, 2014, 01:44:39 PM
Quote from: esard2011 on February 14, 2014, 11:35:20 AM
Meh, I can easily see how refs can be irritated with Gardner. Tries to draw a lot of calls. Exaggerates a lot has a lot of those stupid plays where he walks through guys after a play with his hands up. I love Ox but I can easily see how he can annoy fans of opposing teams and refs.

Greatest defense of Burr I have ever seen--blame it on Gardner. About as rational as Burr being jealous of
Gardner for slimming down. And by the way, Gardner is literally hacked on most of his inside moves to the basket, and many of those are not called.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: willie warrior on February 14, 2014, 01:45:55 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2014, 01:26:45 PM
Didn't say otherwise....it was more tongue in cheek since the thread was, I think, about Jim Burr.

Don't worry, the second he retires someone here will anoint the next worst ref in the world that is screwing MU (and only MU) out of wins.   ;)
Why wait until Burr retires, Chicos, we should have that thread started now.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 14, 2014, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 14, 2014, 01:44:39 PM
Greatest defense of Burr I have ever seen--blame it on Gardner. About as rational as Burr being jealous of
Gardner for slimming down. And by the way, Gardner is literally hacked on most of his inside moves to the basket, and many of those are not called.

Trust me, I am in no way supporting Burr I can just see how Ox annoys people.
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: starting5 on February 14, 2014, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: esard2011 on February 13, 2014, 10:08:05 PM
Agree with everything except the Eurostep. Technically its not a travel because youre picking up your dribble as you are taking that one jab step before you go up with the ball. Kind of like a jump stop except your only using one leg and keep your momentum going forward.
Eurostep is a normal layup with a misdirection step.  Refs get confused
Title: Re: Since everyone here hates Jim Burr
Post by: Newsdreams on February 14, 2014, 02:12:01 PM
Eurostep tutorial  ;D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDbqFYn38ao
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