Derrick Wilson is the worst player in the history of Marquette basketball.
You can say false. But you would be wrong.
Stupid post
Quote from: brandx on January 01, 2014, 12:20:58 PM
Stupid post
0-6
I could play point guard and we would be in the situation
Anthony Candelino. Brandon Bell. Niv Berkowitz. Herb Harrison. Roman Mueller. Rod Grosse. Mbao.
Nope Wilson is the worst pg I have ever seen at Marquette. Just terrible.
Nope Wilson is the worst pg I have ever seen at Marquette. Just terrible.
False. Just the worst scholarship player this side of Mbao.
Claussen, human moving screen
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 12:19:28 PM
Derrick Wilson is the worst player in the history of Marquette basketball.
You can say false. But you would be wrong.
This post is the worst in Scoop history.
You can say false but you would be wrong.
Through his practice ethics and that fact he will be a senior, he will still be starting next year. The discussion/issue will continue into 2015.
He is not the worst, but the timing was not good for the young fella. He would be a nice back-up, but with no one else, Buzz feels he is the best right now. Time will tell.
You obviously didn't watch the team in the late 90s, when I was fortunate enough to attend MU.
Wilson is not terrible, it's just amplified because no other guard or wing can score the ball. He played 27 minutes yesterday and didn't turn the ball over, it's not his fault that Duane got hurt, he's not meant to be a starting PG. He's a solid backup PG that should be getting 8-12 minutes per game.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 01, 2014, 01:07:43 PM
didn't turn the ball over
He also doesn't create. When I was in Strategic Planning at PepsiCo we had a Planning Meeting at Vail. CEO Wayne Calloway asked us who had made a major-league bad decision in the previous year. A few guys raised their hands. Calloway rewarded them on the spot, not for their honesty, but the fact that they were taking risks. The Marquette PG needs to create opportunities for his team. Some here cite his low TO rate as a positive. Like Wayne Calloway, I see a leader who is risk averse.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 12:19:28 PM
Derrick Wilson is the worst player in the history of Marquette basketball.
You can say false. But you would be wrong.
I thought you couldn't get worse after your "worst MU team in history" post. But I was wrong. I award you negative points and may God have mercy on your soul.
I am trying to figure out why Haywards is intentionally trying to undermine his entire credibility over the course of a day. Either that or he has an incredibly short and/or selective memory regarding MU basketball.
I would like you to meet Derrick, and try to find the courage to say that to his face.
I can tell you first hand that he is the kind of person we can be proud of as a fellow alum.
Yes, his play has not risen to the level of expectation...
You may want to consider modifying your original post and thread title to "NM".
I don't care if he's a Rhodes Scholar, he hurts the team currently. I'd say it to his face....learn how to shoot jacka..
Quote from: Stone Cold on January 01, 2014, 02:17:51 PM
I don't care if he's a Rhodes Scholar, he hurts the team currently. I'd say it to his face....learn how to shoot jacka..
Sure you would. Just like you said you would.
Lighten up friend.
Well maybe... he looks about 5'10" and unlike Farley I know which way the weight room is.
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 01, 2014, 02:01:41 PM
I would like you to meet Derrick, and try to find the courage to say that to his face.
I can tell you first hand that he is the kind of person we can be proud of as a fellow alum.
Yes, his play has not risen to the level of expectation...
You may want to consider modifying your original post and thread title to "NM".
I hate this type of response.
The say it to his face? Are you implying im two faced? In person I would tell him he's awesome?
Or are you implying he would beat me up?
If so, that would just prove my point. A random fan tells him he sucks and he brings out the fists.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 03:05:07 PM
I hate this type of response.
The say it to his face? Are you implying im two faced? In person I would tell him he's awesome?
Or are you implying he would beat me up?
If so, that would just prove my point. A random fan tells him he sucks and he brPings out the fists.
Grow up.
This thread is pathetic. These are 18-21 year old kids.
Quote from: john31 on January 01, 2014, 12:41:22 PM
This post is the worst in Scoop history.
You can say false but you would be wrong.
Well played.
This thread angers me. These are kids, who attend a university I love, and for the most part represent it with class. This season has been disappointing, but if you can't handle a loss without coming on an internet message board and anonymously talking sh!t about these kids, perhaps you should seek professional help, and in the meantime, stay off Scoop. We would all be better off.
And to answer the question, Derek is nowhere close to the worst in MU history. You are either guilty of hyperbole, have a very short memory or have only been an MU fan for a short while.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on January 01, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
Well played.
This thread angers me. These are kids, who attend a university I love, and for the most part represent it with class. This season has been disappointing, but if you can't handle a loss without coming on an internet message board and anonymously talking sh!t about these kids, perhaps you should seek professional help, and in the meantime, stay off Scoop. We would all be better off.
+1 million.
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on January 01, 2014, 04:18:13 PM
This thread is pathetic. These are 18-21 year old kids.
Have to agree...... What bothers me more is that in another thread someone mentioned red light, green light. Do they have the red light and can't shoot until he gives them the go ahead?
If we don't take perimeter shots until ball goes in and/or 4 passes that is too predictable and why teams jump our passes and stack the paint. Is that why we consistently dig ourselves a big hole to climb out of in the beginning of games?
Quote from: Bleuteaux on January 01, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
Well played.
This thread angers me. These are kids, who attend a university I love, and for the most part represent it with class. This season has been disappointing, but if you can't handle a loss without coming on an internet message board and anonymously talking sh!t about these kids, perhaps you should seek professional help, and in the meantime, stay off Scoop. We would all be better off.
And to answer the question, Derek is nowhere close to the worst in MU history. You are either guilty of hyperbole, have a very short memory or have only been an MU fan for a short while.
Ding Ding Ding. Exactly what I was thinking. The way some people bash these kids makes you think if they really are fans
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 03:05:07 PM
I hate this type of response.
The say it to his face? Are you implying im two faced? In person I would tell him he's awesome?
Or are you implying he would beat me up?
If so, that would just prove my point. A random fan tells him he sucks and he brings out the fists.
Are you really that dense? He's calling you a coward. And, he's right. Get lost.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on January 01, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
Well played.
This thread angers me. These are kids, who attend a university I love, and for the most part represent it with class. This season has been disappointing, but if you can't handle a loss without coming on an internet message board and anonymously talking sh!t about these kids, perhaps you should seek professional help, and in the meantime, stay off Scoop. We would all be better off.
And to answer the question, Derek is nowhere close to the worst in MU history. You are either guilty of hyperbole, have a very short memory or have only been an MU fan for a short while.
A loss? We have 6.
Isn't the point of a message board to discuss whatever the board is aimed at?
A movie message board you discus the movie. It's good, it sucks
Sports you discuss sports. I'm not allowed to say a player is bad? I have to believe every body is good?
He's an athlete. It comes with the territory. Ironic thing is, you are probably more upset than he would be if I said it to him
You are anonymously defending a basketball player who has no idea you even exist over a message board, yet I need the professional help.
Quote from: 94Warrior on January 01, 2014, 04:56:54 PM
He's calling you a coward.
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Quote from: 94Warrior on January 01, 2014, 04:56:54 PM
Are you really that dense? He's calling you a coward. And, he's right. Get lost.
Are you really that dense?
I flat out said in my response if he was implying I would be afraid to say it to his face.
I wouldn't.
Why should I be afraid to tell it how it is?
You didn't say he was bad, you said he was the worst player in Marquette basketball history.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 01, 2014, 05:02:35 PM
You didn't say he was bad, you said he was the worst player in Marquette basketball history.
Yeah true. But the point remains. They were upset, that I was talking negative about an athlete.
Sorry, but that is completely normal. You can call out athletes. For being good, bad, the best ever, the worst ever.
I mean unless you want to tell yourself all basketball players are equal.
Derrick=LeBron!! Everyone happy now?
You don't get it.
You didn't present some sort of balanced argument that he was a poor player. You hyperbolically stated that he was the "worst ever." If you can't tell the difference, then I don't know what to say.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 05:07:03 PM
Yeah true. But the point remains. They were upset, that I was talking negative about an athlete.
Sorry, but that is completely normal. You can call out athletes. For being good, bad, the best ever, the worst ever.
I mean unless you want to tell yourself all basketball players are equal.
Derrick=LeBron!! Everyone happy now?
It's not because you are talking negative about an athlete.
When your criticism contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion and makes you look like a simpleton, people are going to flame you. Facts of life.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 05:07:03 PM
Yeah true. But the point remains. They were upset, that I was talking negative about an athlete.
Sorry, but that is completely normal. You can call out athletes. For being good, bad, the best ever, the worst ever.
I mean unless you want to tell yourself all basketball players are equal.
Derrick=LeBron!! Everyone happy now?
Any thoughts on the worst school president in Marquette history?
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 01, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
You don't get it.
You didn't present some sort of balanced argument that he was a poor player. You hyperbolically stated that he was the "worst ever." If you can't tell the difference, then I don't know what to say.
No, you don't get it.
The comments strictly said "bashing" a player.
Making it sound as if bashing an athlete is completely unwarranted.
I was told I need professional help for bashing a player, not for calling him the worst ever .
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 12:19:28 PM
Derrick Wilson is the worst player in the history of Marquette basketball.
You can say false. But you would be wrong.
True or false:
HaywardsHeros32 is a short man with an extremely small penis.
False.
I love his defensive intensity but he just can't make it up with his offensive shortcomings.
In about 10 games, Deonte and JJJ could have topped him in career points at MU.
Worst player ever? Hard to name. Mark Harris comes to mind just because he was a bad matchup every time he was out there.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 05:16:05 PM
No, you don't get it.
The comments strictly said "bashing" a player.
Making it sound as if bashing an athlete is completely unwarranted.
I was told I need professional help for bashing a player, not for calling him the worst ever .
You were bashing a player. You offered nothing by a hyperbolic opinion.
If you can't see that, then I don't know what to say.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 05:16:05 PM
No, you don't get it.
The comments strictly said "bashing" a player.
Making it sound as if bashing an athlete is completely unwarranted.
I was told I need professional help for bashing a player, not for calling him the worst ever .
I have less issue with you ripping a player and more issue with your opinion being ridiculous. My guess is you just like to get a rise out of people, or you're a moron.
He's not even the worst play on THIS team. For this year, I'll take Wilson over Thomas, Dawson, and probably Mayo. His role has been effected by injury Blue leaving early.
I think it's fine if someone has a thoughtful, analytical criticism of Derek or his play. If they have thoughts on how the team could be more efficient or successful, and that includes something to the effect of Derek sitting, etc. that's all well and good.
I actually agree with you that there is a certain level of criticism these kids have to take, that goes along with being a high level D1 athlete. It's going to show up on message boards, TV, social media, etc. They need to have tough skin and I'm sure Derek does.
My issue is that your criticism was not thoughtful or analytical in anyway. I'm sure you know the difference. And I'm not worried about protecting Derek. He will be fine. I'm more concerned by the image of this message board that is being projected when threads like this are started. I apologize for saying you need help. That was probably an over the top response, but that was an over the top post.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on January 01, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
Well played.
This thread angers me. These are kids, who attend a university I love, and for the most part represent it with class. This season has been disappointing, but if you can't handle a loss without coming on an internet message board and anonymously talking sh!t about these kids, perhaps you should seek professional help, and in the meantime, stay off Scoop. We would all be better off.
And to answer the question, Derek is nowhere close to the worst in MU history. You are either guilty of hyperbole, have a very short memory or have only been an MU fan for a short while.
+1000 - except it isn't the thread - it is just one fool.
Dricks guy can essentially play help defense without consequence, so we're playing 4 on 5 on offense. I could dribble it up and pass it off to the wing....needs to develop one of a floater, jump shot, hell even finish at the rim ability.
Sometimes it's best just to ignore on here. HH32 has his fair share of garbage posts over the years (sorry man). As for Derrick - clearly not the best starting point guard we have had. But this season has been the way it is for many more reasons besides the offensive ineptitude of Derrick.
I don't fault Vander at all, but if he stayed, there would be nothing but praise for Derrick's D off the bench as it was his first two years. Jake wouldn't be around to get blamed. Juan wouldn't be around either. Would we be doing a lot better? Definitely. But it is what it is.
Quote from: 94Warrior on January 01, 2014, 04:56:54 PM
Are you really that dense? He's calling you a coward. And, he's right. Get lost.
94 Warrior, I was not calling him a coward. I appreciate your response.... Yes , Hayward's is a .......
My point with him is that he finds it easy to be über negative. Over the top negative.
It's all about how we finish, a'ina?
It is criminal to post something like this about a student. What a total low-life, douche bag Haywards must be.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 01, 2014, 05:33:33 PM
True or false:
HaywardsHeros32 is a short man with an extremely small penis.
False. According to my sources, he actually is dickless.