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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: wadesworld on December 31, 2013, 09:52:45 PM

Title: Todd
Post by: wadesworld on December 31, 2013, 09:52:45 PM
Why is he in the game? Missed shots, missed defensive assignments, stupid turnovers. Find the bench kid.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: Markusquette on December 31, 2013, 09:55:53 PM
Calm down.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 31, 2013, 09:57:38 PM
Todd, Jake, Derrick.....it don't matter.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 31, 2013, 09:58:31 PM
He's having an awful game, again
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: Nevada233 on December 31, 2013, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: TSmith34 on December 31, 2013, 09:58:31 PM
He's having an awful game, again

Todd passing like Tony Romo Today. .
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: NickelDimer on December 31, 2013, 10:01:33 PM
It's no longer even worth assigning blame to an individual or two.  We're just bad collectively
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 31, 2013, 10:05:26 PM
Quote from: Nevada233 on December 31, 2013, 09:59:43 PM
Todd passing like Tony Romo Today. .

Romo had a great year....you may have meant Seneca Wallace
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: MuMark on December 31, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
Somebody has to play....if those are the criteria for benching we can't field a team

Quote from: wadesworld on December 31, 2013, 09:52:45 PM
Why is he in the game? Missed shots, missed defensive assignments, stupid turnovers. Find the bench kid.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: wadesworld on December 31, 2013, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: MuMark on December 31, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
Somebody has to play....if those are the criteria for benching we can't field a team


Most do 1 or 2 of the 3. Not all 3, at least 1 every possession. Just brutal. I'll gladly take a guy who doesn't score but doesn't make mistakes (Derrick, Juan, Jake) on the court over a guy who doesn't score and makes brutal mistakes (Todd).
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: Nevada233 on December 31, 2013, 10:11:03 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 31, 2013, 10:05:26 PM
Romo had a great year....you may have meant Seneca Wallace

Hey more like Eli manning lol....
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 31, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
Another -4 point swing from Mayo there.  Don't understand why Buzz is keeping him in there
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: raul on December 31, 2013, 11:51:11 PM
Terrible game by Todd. Wouldn't miss him next year if he left early.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: Nevada233 on December 31, 2013, 11:53:43 PM
Quote from: raul on December 31, 2013, 11:51:11 PM
Terrible game by Todd. Wouldn't miss him next year if he left early.

early to go where... OJ's Couch... lmfao
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: MUfan12 on January 01, 2014, 01:05:52 AM
I give Buzz credit... I woulda run him after the UW game, and sure would have after tonight. He was abysmal in every facet of the game.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 04:56:13 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 31, 2013, 09:52:45 PM
Why is he in the game? Missed shots, missed defensive assignments, stupid turnovers. Find the bench kid.

Are you kiddimg
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 04:57:01 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 31, 2013, 09:52:45 PM
Why is he in the game? Missed shots, missed defensive assignments, stupid turnovers. Find the bench kid.

Are you kiddimg? You call put Todd


Of all players on this team.....
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: Goose on January 01, 2014, 07:49:27 AM
I have backed Todd for 2+ years and I finally give up.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: bilsu on January 01, 2014, 11:09:50 AM
Last night I was thinking, if we had Todd for the Arizona St and UW games, we would of lost those games by a bigger margin.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: setyoursightsnorth on January 01, 2014, 11:16:15 AM
Todd is my boy. I will always have his back.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: NersEllenson on January 01, 2014, 04:10:11 PM
Blows me away we have those who are unrelenting in their support of Derrick, who puts up games like Todd did last night - consistently - yet Todd has his worst game of the year, and now he sucks?  Look at the season stats - he's our 3rd best player.

I'll take some turnovers if a guy is at least trying to be a playmaker either for himself or others.  Wish our PG had the same mentality.

There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it - what ails this team is our PG.  The loss of Vander is a blow, yet Vander wouldn't be functioning nearly as well with this PG, as there is virtually no transition game, and Junior along with Vander were great in transition.

As for Gardner - think the guy has really regressed to this point, through not putting any work in the past off season??  By all accounts he worked really hard.  He has the same skills as always, but now just better conditioning and quickness - yet he's having a rough year??  Gee...wonder why?
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on January 01, 2014, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2014, 04:10:11 PM
Blows me away we have those who are unrelenting in their support of Derrick, who puts up games like Todd did last night - consistently - yet Todd has his worst game of the year, and now he sucks?  Look at the season stats - he's our 3rd best player.

I'll take some turnovers if a guy is at least trying to be a playmaker either for himself or others.  Wish our PG had the same mentality.

There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it - what ails this team is our PG.  The loss of Vander is a blow, yet Vander wouldn't be functioning nearly as well with this PG, as there is virtually no transition game, and Junior along with Vander were great in transition.

As for Gardner - think the guy has really regressed to this point, through not putting any work in the past off season??  By all accounts he worked really hard.  He has the same skills as always, but now just better conditioning and quickness - yet he's having a rough year??  Gee...wonder why?
Because if he's not scoring he's not playing hard.  That's why.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: GGGG on January 01, 2014, 04:58:52 PM
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2014, 04:10:11 PM
Blows me away we have those who are unrelenting in their support of Derrick, who puts up games like Todd did last night - consistently - yet Todd has his worst game of the year, and now he sucks?  Look at the season stats - he's our 3rd best player.


The problem with Todd in people's eyes is that he hasn't taken that next step.  I think he is what he is.  A volume shooter who will get hot occasionally, but will rarely be a guy who can put the team on his back and lead them to victory.

But yeah, I think the criticism is unwarranted. 
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: NersEllenson on January 01, 2014, 05:00:51 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 01, 2014, 04:41:53 PM
Because if he's not scoring he's not playing hard.  That's why.

That's simply a cop out of an excuse....Gardner has been one of the most efficient players in college hoops each of the past 3 seasons, and now, in his senior year, in his best condition - he all of a sudden isn't playing hard enough to score??  Umm....okay.

Gardner isn't effective this year because the opposition's defense has ZERO fear of our perimeter game, and the least concern with Derrick - who gets more minutes on the team than anyone.  Derrick has 3 of his 53 assists for the year to Gardner....what more evidence do you need that our PG cannot help create decent shot opportunities for Gardner?

Title: Re: Todd
Post by: Markusquette on January 01, 2014, 05:10:18 PM
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2014, 05:00:51 PM
That's simply a cop out of an excuse....Gardner has been one of the most efficient players in college hoops each of the past 3 seasons, and now, in his senior year, in his best condition - he all of a sudden isn't playing hard enough to score??  Umm....okay.

Gardner isn't effective this year because the opposition's defense has ZERO fear of our perimeter game, and the least concern with Derrick - who gets more minutes on the team than anyone.  Derrick has 3 of his 53 assists for the year to Gardner....what more evidence do you need that our PG cannot help create decent shot opportunities for Gardner?


It's true.  As good as Gardner is/was at creating his own shot inside, a lot of his points came off of easy, wide open lay-ups fed to him by Cadougan and Blue.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 01, 2014, 04:58:52 PM

The problem with Todd in people's eyes is that he hasn't taken that next step.  I think he is what he is.  A volume shooter who will get hot occasionally, but will rarely be a guy who can put the team on his back and lead them to victory.

But yeah, I think the criticism is unwarranted. 

He is definitely streaky. But what's mind boggling is Todd is still treated by buzz with the freshman. 1 mistake, he's back to the bench.

Jake could be the equivalent to a traffic cone and he will only come out for standard rest. I know we are limited with PG options but Derrick has made some AWFUl passes, namely on in bounds plays. If that's Todd, he would be lucky to play again.

then it's crazy that people on here are so quick to defend the players that simply are not that talented, but then hammer on Ox and Todd.

Title: Re: Todd
Post by: wadesworld on January 01, 2014, 05:45:52 PM
At least we don't have to wonder whether Derrick will be eligible to play from game to game.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: GGGG on January 01, 2014, 06:05:32 PM
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 05:12:41 PM
He is definitely streaky. But what's mind boggling is Todd is still treated by buzz with the freshman. 1 mistake, he's back to the bench.


Hmmmmm....

I wonder why that could be?

Hmmmmmm.....
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: keefe on January 01, 2014, 06:10:34 PM
Quote from: Goose on January 01, 2014, 07:49:27 AM
I have backed Todd for 2+ years and I finally give up.


Joe, I'd hate to think where we would be without him, though.

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Title: Re: Todd
Post by: Eldon on January 01, 2014, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: setyoursightsnorth on January 01, 2014, 11:16:15 AM
Todd is my boy. I will always have his back.

+1
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 01, 2014, 07:05:17 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 01, 2014, 06:05:32 PM

Hmmmmm....

I wonder why that could be?

Hmmmmmm.....

I think everyone is wondering. Big reason why were 8-6 and praying for a CIT invite.
Title: Re: Todd
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on January 01, 2014, 07:35:10 PM
Quote from: keefe on January 01, 2014, 06:10:34 PM

Joe, I'd hate to think where we would be without him, though.

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In 4ever's crib? 

I don't get it.   ;D
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