I follow Mizzou some, and yesterday they lost out on Devin Booker (son of Mizzou's Melvin Booker) yesterday who committed to Kentucky. Now their message boards are saying that they think its a full court press to get Ahmed Hill to flip to them. They state reasons like he had said in the past he'd like to play with current Mizzou commit Jakeenan Gant, and that if they can get him to visit, they think they can get him to flip.
Personally, I think Miz just put all of their eggs in the Booker basket and are now scrambling to try to replace his spot. Is there any concern on Marquette's side that he may keep looking now or is he pretty rock solid? Would love to watch him play every week in the BC!
Verbal commitments are worth the paper they are written on. Deeply skeptical, but anything is possible.
Here's their board saying that, which has the worst set-up imaginable.
http://tigerboard.com/boards/list.php?board=1
He's signing in 12 days, doubt they're going to manage it. Though I suppose harassing someone verbally committed to another school is far down Frank Haith's list of ethical transgressions.
Their fans are certainly going all in on Twitter (creepily), which was being encouraged on their board.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%40MedHill_14&src=typd
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 01, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
Their fans are certainly going all in on Twitter (creepily), which was being encouraged on their board.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%40MedHill_14&src=typd
MY GOD!!!! THOSE AREN'T BOOSTERS ARE THEY???
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 01, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
Their fans are certainly going all in on Twitter (creepily), which was being encouraged on their board.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%40MedHill_14&src=typd
I think Chicos needs to go over there and regulate.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on November 01, 2013, 11:04:59 AM
MY GOD!!!! THOSE AREN'T BOOSTERS ARE THEY???
Yup. It's fun watching 40+ year olds grovel and beg in the digital world. It's also creepy and pathetic....and against NCAA rules.
QuoteYup. It's fun watching 40+ year olds grovel and beg in the digital world. It's also creepy and pathetic....and against NCAA rules.
Agreed, but the NCAA doesn't follow its own rules...so theres that
you fail to mention that your described " full court press to get Ahmed Hill to flip to them."
is really a message board discussing starting a twitter mob to convince him to come to Mizzou..
not too worried about that...
Quote from: kolby on November 01, 2013, 10:44:05 AM
I follow Mizzou some, and yesterday they lost out on Devin Booker (son of Mizzou's Melvin Booker) yesterday who committed to Kentucky. Now their message boards are saying that they think its a full court press to get Ahmed Hill to flip to them. They state reasons like he had said in the past he'd like to play with current Mizzou commit Jakeenan Gant, and that if they can get him to visit, they think they can get him to flip.
Personally, I think Miz just put all of their eggs in the Booker basket and are now scrambling to try to replace his spot. Is there any concern on Marquette's side that he may keep looking now or is he pretty rock solid? Would love to watch him play every week in the BC!
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 01, 2013, 10:51:20 AM
Here's their board saying that, which has the worst set-up imaginable.
http://tigerboard.com/boards/list.php?board=1
Wow, that made my eyes hurt.
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 01, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
Their fans are certainly going all in on Twitter (creepily), which was being encouraged on their board.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%40MedHill_14&src=typd
Wow. I don't think I have ever seen this big of a twitter surge for an already committed player. Kind of disgusting.
No chance he flips. Ahmed is going to be in Blue and Gold come next Fall and will be pushing Mayo and JJJ for the starting job.
Quote from: Captain Awesome on November 01, 2013, 11:05:13 AM
I think Chicos needs to go over there and regulate.
Don't worry... Stone Cold's already on it, apparently.
To give Mizzou some dignity back, I read the thread and most of their fans are calling the others idiots
Quote from: mr.MUskie on November 01, 2013, 11:12:14 AM
Wow, that made my eyes hurt.
The absolute worst major message board for ANY sports team/program/etc I've ever seen. It really is embarrassing, like, do they really enjoy it?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 01, 2013, 11:14:38 AM
To give Mizzou some dignity back, I read the thread and most of their fans are calling the others idiots
This is just precious.
FWIW per rivals Hill has visit to MIZZOU 11/1/13 - Moball2play MU - 10/31/13 21:30:02
Old info from before his commitment (nm) - Johnny Utah MU - 10/31/13 21:30:47
You can tak your woe is me attitude to the homo board(nm) - tigerboardnoob MU - 11/1/13 04:58:33
Quote from: madtownwarrior on November 01, 2013, 11:10:36 AM
you fail to mention that your described " full court press to get Ahmed Hill to flip to them."
is really a message board discussing starting a twitter mob to convince him to come to Mizzou..
not too worried about that...
True, its just fans venting on losing out on a highly ranked legacy, but I know it seemed like Missouri was in the running for Hill. Mizzou fans go through the 7 stages of grieving quickly, it was all Booker for weeks, and now that they missed out, they think they can just talk about Hill and that will spurn him to switch. I just wondered if Haith may make one last push to get Hill to visit or something.
Quote from: Benny B on November 01, 2013, 11:17:43 AM
This is just precious.
FWIW per rivals Hill has visit to MIZZOU 11/1/13 - Moball2play MU - 10/31/13 21:30:02
Old info from before his commitment (nm) - Johnny Utah MU - 10/31/13 21:30:47
You can tak your woe is me attitude to the homo board(nm) - tigerboardnoob MU - 11/1/13 04:58:33
So do we not get a homo board because MU is Catholic? Uh...because...a friend wants to know.
Quote from: kolby on November 01, 2013, 11:20:09 AM
True, its just fans venting on losing out on a highly ranked legacy, but I know it seemed like Missouri was in the running for Hill. Mizzou fans go through the 7 stages of grieving quickly, it was all Booker for weeks, and now that they missed out, they think they can just talk about Hill and that will spurn him to switch. I just wondered if Haith may make one last push to get Hill to visit or something.
I know very little about Mizzou basketball, but it seems the Wright commitment had a bigger impact on Hill's recruitment than Booker. I would also expect Haith (and every other coach for that matter) to spend the little time he has left before the signing period on other recruits that haven't pledged to play at other schools.
Quote from: damuts222 on November 01, 2013, 11:10:31 AM
Agreed, but the NCAA doesn't follow its own rules...so theres that
Nor does our own country, law enforcement, etc...so theres that
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on November 01, 2013, 11:20:27 AM
So do we not get a homo board because MU is Catholic? Uh...because...a friend wants to know.
At first, I thought Scoop was the homo board. Then I thought Mizzou must have another message board where the threads that are much cleaner and better organized given that the homos are running it.
Mizzou's pitch: "Now that we missed out on who we really wanted, we realize how awesome you are!"
Good luck with that, Zou.
A few thoughts on my mind...
1. Hill committed after madness. Gant could have convinced him long ago to go to Missouri and was unsuccessful. He took his time and here we are a week+ away from national signing day? I can't see much changing in a short amount of time IMO
2. Social Media...everyone is a booster, can't be enforced by NCAA.
3. I would hope a twitter campaign has zero influence on a player's decision
But overall I feel bad what recruits go through in today's era. The amount of stuff sent there way via social media good and bad. I believe the ugly side of college recruiting article was mentioned on Scoop...Diamond Stone being called and such. Sad to think about the amount of tainting that occurs.
Regardless of what Hill decides...if I were a college recruit, I would be skeptical of a coach who just got slapped with an NCAA suspension.
Quote from: INDYWarrior on November 01, 2013, 12:39:45 PM
3. I would hope a twitter campaign has zero influence on a player's decision
Buzz has mentioned in passing in the past that the glorification of players via social media before they even arrive on campus is something of a wall that he has to break through.
Quote from: INDYWarrior on November 01, 2013, 12:39:45 PM
A few thoughts on my mind...
1. Hill committed after madness. Gant could have convinced him long ago to go to Missouri and was unsuccessful. He took his time and here we are a week+ away from national signing day? I can't see much changing in a short amount of time IMO
2. Social Media...everyone is a booster, can't be enforced by NCAA.
3. I would hope a twitter campaign has zero influence on a player's decision
But overall I feel bad what recruits go through in today's era. The amount of stuff sent there way via social media good and bad. I believe the ugly side of college recruiting article was mentioned on Scoop...Diamond Stone being called and such. Sad to think about the amount of tainting that occurs.
Regardless of what Hill decides...if I were a college recruit, I would be skeptical of a coach who just got slapped with an NCAA suspension.
I think if the NCAA really wanted to, you could. It would violate someone's rights probably, but you could say if you wish to be considered a D1 recruit, you have to turn off the functionality to accept tweets, new friends (Facebook), etc. There is no way you can enforce what all these idiots do in terms of begging and slathering over a 17 year old, too many weirdos out there. However, you can control (or attempt to control) the recipients of the pleas. As I mentioned earlier, the NCAA is going to have to address it at some point. I can put money via paypal or other source into someone's account at any time with very little information. What starts as "oh please Johnny Junior, come play for my school" becomes "Johnny Jr., check your account and I'll get 500 other people to throw in $20 or $50....just because we love you"
The one way a University could stop some of it is to not allow identified violators buy tickets to home games. There has to be some risk to repeated violators. I not sure if the Packers have ever taken away someones season tickets, but they say a season ticket holder is responsible for the people using their tickets and that they could lose their tickets for inappropriate behavior by anyone using their tickets.
Quote from: bilsu on November 01, 2013, 02:40:36 PM
The one way a University could stop some of it is to not allow identified violators buy tickets to home games.
You are assuming that a university would care enough to go through the effort.
Quote from: bilsu on November 01, 2013, 02:40:36 PM
The one way a University could stop some of it is to not allow identified violators buy tickets to home games.
So then I'd have to have my buddy/girlfriend/roommate/uncle/random wino on the street buy my ticket.
Quote from: mr.MUskie on November 01, 2013, 03:29:29 PM
So then I'd have to have my buddy/girlfriend/roommate/uncle/random wino on the street buy my ticket.
Better yet, have them set up the dummy twitter account.
Christ, they really are trying hard over there.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%40MedHill_14&src=typd&f=realtime
Coach gets a five game NCAA suspension for approving a boatload of cash be given to assistant coaches. School boosters violate NCAA social media booster rules and encourage coaches to violate NCAA verbal commitment rules by continuing to recruit Hill. Welcome to the SEC, Zou! You are officially a full member.
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 01, 2013, 04:06:17 PM
Christ, they really are trying hard over there.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%40MedHill_14&src=typd&f=realtime
Yes - I especially love the part about Frank Haith being "a good Christian man." Whatever that means. Shameless bunch.
Quote from: siliconwarrior on November 01, 2013, 04:08:33 PM
Yes - I especially love the part about Frank Haith being "a good Christian man." Whatever that means. Shameless bunch.
While they're at it they should fake an injury at crunch time of an NCAA tourney game to substitute a FT shooter. Oh wait, that's been done.
Nice culture of cheating they have down there. Mike Anderson, Fraink Haith or their fanbase - you can keep them.
meanwhile on the other mu board the discussion on hill surrounds diamond stone saying how hard hill is working at recruiting him to mu.
Stone coming to MU is far more likely than Hill going to Mizzery. :P
I'm not sure if we got mu.edu by being the superior MU or them being not bright enough to deserve a .edu domain. Bunch of trailer trash.
as i was reading the mizzou boards, i had the thought of: why dont we push for Jakennan gant to come here and play with Ahmed?
Basketball is king here, no FB to compete with, we have great facilities, Buzz and a rising program.
Like to think we have more class than that. Hell, they're only athletes who are fortunate enough to get their education for free. No wonder some of these kids turn into punks with all the idolization thrown their way. C'mon man
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 01, 2013, 08:08:54 PM
Like to think we have more class than that. Hell, they're only athletes who are fortunate enough to get their education for free. No wonder some of these kids turn into punks with all the idolozation thrown their way. C'mon man
Is that a serious post by 4never? Hell hath frozen over.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 01, 2013, 08:08:54 PM
Like to think we have more class than that. Hell, they're only athletes who are fortunate enough to get their education for free. No wonder some of these kids turn into punks with all the idolozation thrown their way. C'mon man
I've always had a chip on my shoulder. I wonder what I would have been like if I had so many old cats pumping me full of steam when I was a young buck.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 01, 2013, 09:13:19 PM
Is that a serious post by 4never? Hell hath frozen over.
I have succeeded then.
Retiring from Scoop.
For the night.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 01, 2013, 09:13:19 PM
Is that a serious post by 4never? Hell hath frozen over.
It is his new grainless diet.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 01, 2013, 07:00:48 PM
as i was reading the mizzou boards, i had the thought of: why dont we push for Jakennan gant to come here and play with Ahmed?
Basketball is king here, no FB to compete with, we have great facilities, Buzz and a rising program.
On principle I have to say no. However, I think this would be the ultimate come back to this situation and would be no less than what Mizzou fans deserve.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 01, 2013, 07:00:48 PMas i was reading the mizzou boards, i had the thought of: why dont we push for Jakennan gant to come here and play with Ahmed?
Gant was among the Mizzou people tweeting Hill to come visit. I realize he is allowed, but I don't think he's ditching his version of MU any time soon. Also, when people called out Mizzou fans for their behavior, he pointed to Buzz4Pres doing the same. Funny that he found one of maybe 5-6 Marquette fans that do this compared to what seems like at least dozens of Mizzou fans currently recruiting Ahmed Hill.
Quote from: mr.MUskie on November 01, 2013, 03:29:29 PM
So then I'd have to have my buddy/girlfriend/roommate/uncle/random wino on the street buy my ticket.
They would probably install facial identification to stop you.
We should start contacting Gant, if Haith starts contacting Hill.