Posted 9/23/13
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If Becky gets Looney and Stone it will be bedlam around here
Not sure what this author means by 'Can he match the recruiting of the Badgers?'
"Buzz Williams would love to add the big man to his roster, but can he match the recruiting of the Badgers?" WTF? Since when did Bo Ryan become such a dynamic recruiter?
Quote from: LAZER on October 18, 2013, 11:33:49 PM
Not sure what this author means by 'Can he match the recruiting of the Badgers?'
From way out there in North Carolina, it probably seems like the Badgers get every Wisconsin big man because they have in the past when they were all from out-state Wisconsin. Also, MU's new status as the "cool school" in Wisconsin probably hasn't reached them yet.
Wonder what the Kentucky board thinks?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 18, 2013, 11:32:48 PM
If Becky gets Looney and Stone it will be bedlam around here
And if Becky loses Looney and we get Stone, it will be bedlam on their boards. What's your point? Kinda seems like you actively want that to happen so you can polish Bo's knob and troll here more.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 18, 2013, 11:32:48 PM
If Becky gets Looney and Stone it will be bedlam around here
If that happens, they'll be cuttin' down the nets.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 19, 2013, 06:41:23 AM
If that happens, they'll be cuttin' down the nets.
And if we land Stone with all the talent we have at the 1-4 we wouldn't? These are hardly UW-specific statements.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on October 19, 2013, 07:01:20 AM
And if we land Stone with all the talent we have at the 1-4 we wouldn't? These are hardly UW-specific statements.
Cuz 4Ever thinks Looney is the second coming--Stone is just the icing on the cake.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on October 19, 2013, 06:12:58 AM
And if Becky loses Looney and we get Stone, it will be bedlam on their boards. What's your point? Kinda seems like you actively want that to happen so you can polish Bo's knob and troll here more.
A chance for a couple hundred posts on what a great coach/recruiter Bo is, I guess MU isn't really the cool school in Wisconsin, how the board would have gone nuts if TC lost two top in state guys to UW? He'd be in his own peculiar, "ironic" version of heaven.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 18, 2013, 11:32:48 PM
If Becky gets Looney and Stone it will be bedlam around here
And it would be justified.
I just hope they are correct. I'll take 1 of 2 with Wisconsin over 1 of 5 with the others in the mix.
I'd bet against him staying in the state.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 19, 2013, 06:41:23 AM
If that happens, they'll be cuttin' down the nets.
Nice to say, but still highly unlikely. That assumes Looney stays 2 years and assumes that somehow Bo Ryan with 2 top-10s automatically beats guys like K and Cal who will still have more decorated talent in terms of quantity and quality (considering the guys they get will probably still be rated higher than Looney or Stone).
Funny, Bo says they'd cut the nets down with just Looney alone. Must just be recrutin' talk, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 19, 2013, 09:44:24 AM
Funny, Bo says they'd cut the nets down with just Looney alone. Must just be recrutin' talk, hey?
Oh, now I see where you were going with that
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 19, 2013, 09:44:24 AM
Funny, Bo says they'd cut the nets down with just Looney alone. Must just be recrutin' talk, hey?
Let's see; Kaminsky (Sr), Looney (Fr), Dekker (Jr), Gasser (Sr), and Koenig (So) with little quality depth. Yeah, just recruiting talk.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 19, 2013, 06:41:23 AM
If that happens, they'll be cuttin' down the nets.
Nope. Bo will do for them what he did for Brian Butch. They'll still find a way to lose in the dance.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 19, 2013, 10:01:22 AM
Let's see; Kaminsky (Sr), Looney (Fr), Dekker (Jr), Gasser (Sr), and Koenig (So) with little quality depth. Yeah, just recruiting talk.
That line-up isn't a world beater.
When Diamond comes to Marquette, he will be a star, a focal point, and the offense will really run through him - with him scoring or opening lanes and opportunities for the others. With the talent around him, there is no reason to think that MU would not be in a serious hunt for the title. Go Marquette !
Quote from: Daniel on October 19, 2013, 11:40:17 AM
When Diamond comes to Marquette, he will be a star, a focal point, and the offense will really run through him - with him scoring or opening lanes and opportunities for the others. With the talent around him, there is no reason to think that MU would not be in a serious hunt for the title. Go Marquette !
This.
Think of Otule. Cyclops has starred in the 5 for MU pretty much most of his healthy career!
Diamond in the center spot is pretty much a lock for most of his freshman year and the rest of his career in blue and gold.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on October 19, 2013, 10:33:51 AM
That line-up isn't a world beater.
Really? You have a decent big man, two solid scoring options on the front line, a defensive guard in Gasser and a supposedly decent PG in Koenig.
That's a good line up.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 18, 2013, 11:32:48 PM
If Becky gets Looney and Stone it will be bedlam around here
Eh....life goes on. I feel perfectly comfortable with Marquette's program.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 19, 2013, 11:50:31 AM
This.
Think of Otule. Cyclops has starred in the 5 for MU pretty much most of his healthy career!
Diamond in the center spot is pretty much a lock for most of his freshman year and the rest of his career in blue and gold.
Starred?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 19, 2013, 06:41:23 AM
If that happens, they'll be cuttin' down the nets.
Put Stone and Looney in the same class, send thrm to Becy and it's still far from a lock that they're cutting down nets.
Kentucky had three top 10 kids in the class of 2012 ... and didn't make the tournament.
I4 had two of the top 4 picks in the NBA draft, and couldn't get out of the S16.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on October 19, 2013, 06:12:58 AM
And if Becky loses Looney and we get Stone, it will be bedlam on their boards. What's your point? Kinda seems like you actively want that to happen so you can polish Bo's knob and troll here more.
If I had a dollar for every time a scooper necessarily provoked Chicos...
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 19, 2013, 12:10:52 PM
Eh....life goes on. I feel perfectly comfortable with Marquette's program.
Agree completely, but the crowd that believes Bo can't recruit and Wisconsin doesn't get pros, etc, would be beside themselves. Odds are, they won't get those kids either, but if they do the popcorn will be going watching craziness here.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 19, 2013, 02:34:47 PM
If I had a dollar for every time a scooper necessarily provoked Chicos...
I wouldn't have known....that hideous avatar he has creeps me out so he's on ignore, but if that is what he said it is hardly surprising. Comical, really.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 19, 2013, 02:34:47 PM
If I had a dollar for every time a scooper necessarily provoked Chicos...
I'm guessing that you meant
unnecessarily. Stay out of that tall grass Chicos!
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 19, 2013, 12:06:43 PM
It ain't bad.
Well, it certainly pales in comparison to programs boasting two lottery draft picks. Such a well stocked larder ought to be a contender for the National Championship. Only deficient coaching and erratic personal behavior on the part of leadership would prevent a team featuring two lottery draft choices from cashing in on such magnificent promise. Failure under such circumstances should trigger an immediate look into the quality of command.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 19, 2013, 04:03:01 PM
I'm guessing that you meant unnecessarily. Stay out of that tall grass Chicos!
Whoops...fruedian slip?
Quote from: Pakuni on October 19, 2013, 12:37:32 PM
Put Stone and Looney in the same class, send thrm to Becy and it's still far from a lock that they're cutting down nets.
Kentucky had three top 10 kids in the class of 2012 ... and didn't make the tournament.
I4 had two of the top 4 picks in the NBA draft, and couldn't get out of the S16.
Give me a break...you are either lying, a homer or delusional because if both Looney and Stone end up there in Madison along with the guys they have coming from Chicago and what they have now and the fact Bo can coach his a-- off they can win it all!
I love MU to death and respect the Badgers, but I am not stupid or an idiot. Those two kids would be what they rarely have up there in Madison and I would be happy for them.
But you are crazy, that would be a lock. Kentucky had a major injury that year...Noel was out. You know that. If they got both...LOOK OUT!
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 19, 2013, 12:08:52 PM
Really? You have a decent big man, two solid scoring options on the front line, a defensive guard in Gasser and a supposedly decent PG in Koenig.
That's a good line up.
IGNORE THAT .....it is a world beater. They would be world beaters. You really need to examine those guard UW has coming in this year and add those two kids next year. Wow.
Both UW football and basketball could be National Title contenders in two years, if they stay that long. I know this is an MU forum, but I am just keeping it real...
They are both EXACTLY what they need. If they get them both you can hide and front all you want to MU fans...and I am as big an MU fan as there is but even I would tip my hat to our cousins to the north if they get these two gems a Diamond and Looney.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 19, 2013, 11:40:44 PM
IGNORE THAT .....it is a world beater. They would be world beaters. You really need to examine those guard UW has coming in this year and add those two kids next year. Wow.
Both UW football and basketball could be National Title contenders in two years, if they stay that long. I know this is an MU forum, but I am just keeping it real...
They are both EXACTLY what they need. If they get them both you can hide and front all you want to MU fans...and I am as big an MU fan as there is but even I would tip my hat to our cousins to the north if they get these two gems a Diamond and Looney.
Go get yourself some Dog Hause, a couple glasses of water, and find a pillow. Start posting again after your 2:00 lunch in the McCormick cafeteria tomorrow when the headache settles.
Quote from: keefe on October 19, 2013, 08:12:29 PM
Well, it certainly pales in comparison to programs boasting two lottery draft picks. Such a well stocked larder ought to be a contender for the National Championship. Only deficient coaching and erratic personal behavior on the part of leadership would prevent a team featuring two lottery draft choices from cashing in on such magnificent promise. Failure under such circumstances should trigger an immediate look into the quality of command.
You took the troll bait..
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on October 19, 2013, 08:53:28 AM
And it would be justified.
Just a rhetorical question for those speculating about both Looney and Stone going to Bucky: Should we not be questioning why we are not in the running for both, but Bucky is? After all, the only we have in our control to stop that from happening is to land one or both.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 19, 2013, 11:40:44 PM
They are both EXACTLY what they need. If they get them both you can hide and front all you want to MU fans...and I am as big an MU fan as there is but even I would tip my hat to our cousins to the north if they get these two gems a Diamond and Looney.
Madison is west of Milwaukee-- which is where Marquette University is, not in the suburbs of Chicago.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 19, 2013, 11:40:44 PM
They are both EXACTLY what they need. If they get them both you can hide and front all you want to MU fans...and I am as big an MU fan as there is but even I would tip my hat to our cousins to the north if they get these two gems a Diamond and Looney.
I'm pretty certain UWGB isn't in the running for either of them.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 19, 2013, 11:35:45 PM
Give me a break...you are either lying, a homer or delusional because if both Looney and Stone end up there in Madison along with the guys they have coming from Chicago and what they have now and the fact Bo can coach his a-- off they can win it all!
Who do they have coming from Chicago?
Their class of 2014 so far encompasses a three-star kid from western Illinois.
Bo is a good coach and all, but his tourney record leaves a lot to be desired. We're talking about a guy with a 4-10 record against opponents with single-digit seeds. He's
never beaten a team seeded higher than 5th.
QuoteI love MU to death and respect the Badgers, but I am not stupid or an idiot.
You just play one on the Internet.
QuoteBut you are crazy, that would be a lock. Kentucky had a major injury that year...Noel was out. You know that. If they got both...LOOK OUT!
Kentucky was 17-7 and ranked 25th when Noel got hurt. They weren't on their way to cutting down nets.
And even without Noel, they still had two top 10 recruits, the equivalent of Stone and Looney, from that year's class. And didn't make the tourney.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 20, 2013, 12:09:58 AM
Go get yourself some Dog Hause, a couple glasses of water, and find a pillow. Start posting again after your 2:00 lunch in the McCormick cafeteria tomorrow when the headache settles.
lol. Exactly what I thought when I read his string of posts last night.
Quote from: We R Final Four on October 20, 2013, 07:51:13 AM
Madison is west of Milwaukee-- which is where Marquette University is, not in the suburbs of Chicago.
Well, to be fair, to many Milwaukee people, anywhere in Wisconsin not named Racine or Kenosha is considered "up north."
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 19, 2013, 12:08:52 PM
Really? You have a decent big man, two solid scoring options on the front line, a defensive guard in Gasser and a supposedly decent PG in Koenig.
That's a good line up.
Good lineup? Yes. World-beater? Hardly. From an on-paper perspective, it's still worse than the average starting five at UK, Duke, Kansas, UNC, or Ohio State. It probably makes them a top-ten team, but if Bo is telling Looney that he alone will result in UW cutting down nets, he must be planning Madness event with a net-cutting ceremony after the Red/White scrimmage, because they won't be Big Ten favorites with that lineup much less NC favorites.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 20, 2013, 07:38:37 AM
Just a rhetorical question for those speculating about both Looney and Stone going to Bucky: Should we not be questioning why we are not in the running for both, but Bucky is? After all, the only we have in our control to stop that from happening is to land one or both.
The only one to blame for MU not having a shot at Looney is Fr. Pilarz as he consistently refused to consider moving Marquette out of Milwaukee just to gain one recruit.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 20, 2013, 03:56:43 PM
The only one to blame for not having a shot at Looney is Fr. Pilarz as he consistently refused to consider moving Marquette out of Milwaukee just to gain one recruit.
How dare he?!?!?! Must be why Wild is back...expect the announcement next friday at 5:03pm. ;D
nm
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 20, 2013, 03:56:43 PM
The only one to blame for MU not having a shot at Looney is Fr. Pilarz as he consistently refused to consider moving Marquette out of Milwaukee just to gain one recruit.
I heard the reason was the admin's refusal to change name back to Warriors.
Quote from: keefe on October 19, 2013, 08:12:29 PM
Well, it certainly pales in comparison to programs boasting two lottery draft picks. Such a well stocked larder ought to be a contender for the National Championship. Only deficient coaching and erratic personal behavior on the part of leadership would prevent a team featuring two lottery draft choices from cashing in on such magnificent promise. Failure under such circumstances should trigger an immediate look into the quality of command.
Like Duke, UNC, Kentucky, etc....I agree. Sometimes teams with two top 5 picks don't win the national title. In fact, in the twelve times it has happened, only 3 won the title....25%.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 21, 2013, 01:25:57 PM
Like Duke, UNC, Kentucky, etc....I agree. Sometimes teams with two top 5 picks don't win the national title. In fact, in the twelve times it has happened, only 3 won the title....25%.
Four, actually. Here's the rundown:
National Champions:
1.Michigan State,1979
2.UCONN,2004
3.North Carolina, 2005
4.Kentucky, 2012
National Runner-ups:
1.Ohio State, 2007
Final Four Semi Finalists:
1.North Carolina,1995
2.North Carolina,1998
3.UCLA, 2008
4.Kentucky,2010
Elite Eight losers:
None
Sweet 16 losers:
1.North Carolina, 1984
2.Duke, 2002
3.Indiana,2013
So, eleven teams shared IU's profile. Nine (82%) made the Final Four. Pretty amazing for a crapshoot. The two that didn't (UNC in 84, Duke in 02) will be remembered as the most disappointing in Dean Smith's and Coach K's careers. So TC has that going for him, which is nice.
I was talking the post 64 team field. But for giggles, 4 won the title, 8 did not.
Thank you
Sincerely,
Crap Shoot
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We all know the crystal ball can turn in an instant but it's kind of cool to see Marquette got the first prediction for Diamond Stone. It was by Matt Gravett, the founder of The Gopher Report.
http://247sports.com/Player/Diamond-Stone-20022 (http://247sports.com/Player/Diamond-Stone-20022)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 21, 2013, 04:15:08 PM
I was talking the post 64 team field. But for giggles, 4 won the title, 8 did not.
Thank you
Sincerely,
Crap Shoot
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Four won the title, but nine went to the Final Four. IU tied two teams for the earliest exit, and they were routed, not edged like the other two. So of the twelve teams in NCAA history that shared the characteristic of having two top 5 picks in the ensuing draft, Indiana's performance was twelfth out of twelve. Cling to your bad luck, "crap shoot", excuse making all you want but the fact is that IU laid one very large egg. All CRAP, no SHOOT.
Is there any indication that Stone is going to decide before next fall?
If not, then I can stop clicking on any Stone threads for a while, since these threads, like all threads, tend to be way off topic anyway.