Per Paint Touches tweet:
"Ahmed Hill has committed to Marquette, a source told Paint Touches. Big news for the Golden Eagles."
Way to go Buzz!!!!!!!
Excellent
sexy
Alright, alright, alright!!
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0154330a8b54970c-500wi)
Next Step: Charles Matthews and Diamond Stone
One of the best things about Madness - the hangover is usually pretty nice.
SCOUTING REPORT ON AHMED HILL
by Eric Bossi - 09/25/2013
A scorer from Georgia, his ranking took a dip after a bit of an off summer. He is a two guard with pretty good size, pretty good athleticism and the ability to knock down shots. A bit passive at times and will rise back to form as he learns to put more pressure on defenders with the dribble.
Awesome!! Welcome to the family Ahmed Hill. Great choice.
Excellent news, and breaks our streak of commitment-less Madnesses. Excellent get and gives us another legitimate scorer going forward. Really big get.
Another great back to back class with three top 100 kids in tow now. Wow!
Yesssssssss!!! :o
Quote from: mubb34 on October 12, 2013, 12:30:40 PM
Next Step: Charles Matthews and Diamond Stone
If we somehow manage to get both of them along with Noskowiak that by far overshadows the 2013 class and would be Buzz's (and I'm sure Marquette's) best class.
Brilliant! ;D
When this class gets on campus & is ready to play distributing only 200 minutes is going to be an issue. Perhaps 40 minuts of hell with lots of substitutions.
Add a commitment from Tory Miller and I will be a very happy fan.
Cohen, Harris, and Hill is a great class any year.
Tweet from Hill himself:
"Thanks to all the fans and coaches that have supported me through this process. It's been a great run, but I have committed to Marquette!!"
So awesome. Buzz & staff continue to amaze on the recruiting trail. The ceiling on this program gets raised almost daily. Really fun watching it all play out.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on October 12, 2013, 12:40:57 PM
If we somehow manage to get both of them along with Noskowiak that by far overshadows the 2013 class and would be Buzz's (and I'm sure Marquette's) best class.
That would most likely be a 2 McD's AA class. Not only would it be MU's likely best ever class, it'd certainly be one of the country's best classes. Top-5 for sure.
Welcome to MU
Wasn't Hill within the past year ranked in the top 25?
Quote from: mubb34 on October 12, 2013, 12:30:40 PM
Next Step: Charles Matthews and Diamond Stone
Can anyone confirm Matthews was at madness?
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on October 12, 2013, 02:11:04 PM
Wasn't Hill within the past year ranked in the top 25?
Yes. He had a rough AAU summer circuit and saw his stock and rankings drop. Despite that, Buzz stuck with him when the big boys backed off. Probably a big key in Marquette landing Hill.
Wow--what a fantastic get for MU!
Jajaunnaman nailed it--and what an unbelievable job for a f***ing junior college guy at a small private Catholic school in Milwaukee Wisconsin. Way to go Buzz!!
Welcome Ahmed!
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 12, 2013, 02:12:35 PM
Can anyone confirm Matthews was at madness?
I remember seeing a tweet saying that he was spotted behind the autograph table with Stone
Quote from: mubb34 on October 12, 2013, 02:20:55 PM
I remember seeing a tweet saying that he was spotted behind the autograph table with Stone
Thanks. I noticed now that Matthews is visiting again in November to watch the Ohio State game. Maybe him and Diamond can get together to watch that! :)
I can confirm.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 12, 2013, 02:12:35 PM
Can anyone confirm Matthews was at madness?
All I can say is oh yeah baby what a heck of a class
Is this the same dude who went to Princeton and played in the Association with the Clippers, Sonics, and Bucks?
MU set at SG for a few years now. Mayo/Johnson/Hill next year, and Johnson/Hill after that. With the Wilson(s) and Dawson for more years at PG, pretty nice situation.
Yes. Same guy. Because when players hit 60 years old, they can change their name and reset their NCAA eligibility clock. Hopefully Buzz can also land Will Walton and finally land the 5-star big that willie's been begging for all these years.
Darn that new conference limiting MU's ability to recruit. ;D
Welcome to the family Mr. Hill.
Quote from: tower912 on October 12, 2013, 02:58:44 PM
Darn that new conference limiting MU's ability to recruit. ;D
We'll be just fine in the recruiting department as long as Buzz is here. The talent he's bringing in and depth of current roster are remarkable - far better than anything I recall at MU in the 25 years I've been following MU hoops hardcore.
So glad Pilarz is gone too. And love that Buzz came out to the Country Road's song and did a little two step with it at Madness. That is epic..and I think speaks to his level of happiness at MU right now.
The BE has had some very good recruiting success this year.
Country roads was funny, the faithful loved it.
Wonder if Tommy Crean will still continue recruitin' Hill?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 12, 2013, 04:24:43 PM
Wonder if Tommy Crean will still continue recruitin' Hill?
He will at the very least be thinking about him a lot this weekend.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 12, 2013, 04:30:57 PM
He will at the very least be thinking about him a lot this weekend.
But will he obsess about him like 4ever does TC?
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 12, 2013, 12:37:07 PM
Excellent news, and breaks our streak of commitment-less Madnesses. Excellent get and gives us another legitimate scorer going forward. Really big get.
Not really. He basically had already decided on MU, but was not going to announce before his visit.
Quote from: bilsu on October 12, 2013, 06:00:12 PM
Not really. He basically had already decided on MU, but was not going to announce before his visit.
Yes really. He committed at Madness. Many reports that Blue made his mind up before Madness and didn't announce until after. Does that not count either? Let's just be happy about this one and hope for another 1-2 within the week.
MU is gonna be back as a school with great guards...last couple years we have had good guards but the frontcourt was better.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 12, 2013, 04:30:57 PM
He will at the very least be thinking about him a lot this weekend.
That was good.
+1.
https://twitter.com/MedHill_14
Quote from: GoldenZebra on October 12, 2013, 06:20:21 PM
MU is gonna be back as a school with great guards...last couple years we have had good guards but the frontcourt was better.
DJO? Vander? Maybe not as complete of a backcourt as past years, but still a very good guard each year.
Excellent news. Welcome to the Marquette family Mr. Hill.
Get me some Shayok/Miller and some Stone/Matthews and I will be one satisfied fan.
Welcome to our family Mr. Hill!
Welcome to Marquette, Ahmed!
From ESPN.com
Scout's Take: Ahmed Hill to Marquette
October, 12, 2013
Oct 12
3:14
PM ET
By Reggie Rankin | ESPN.com
ESPN 100 shooting guard Ahmed Hill (Augusta, Ga./Aquinas) committed to Marquette on Saturday while on his official visit, where he also observed Marquette Madness. He chose the Golden Eagles over Indiana and Missouri.
"I have a great relationship with coach Buzz [Williams] and coach Isaac Chew. I just needed to come and check everything out," said Hill, ranked No. 51 in the Class of 2014.
"My mom (Donna Hill) came with me and she was very comfortable with what the coaches told and showed us," Hill added.
Why he committed: Marquette needed a player in this class who can score. That is what Hill does best, and the Golden Eagles recruited him longer and more consistently than anyone else.
What he brings: Simply put, the No. 2 player in Georgia (only Missouri commit JaKeenan Gant ranks higher) can flat-out score. Hill has already scored more than 2,000 points in his high school career, and his senior season hasn't even begun. Hill can knock down the open 3, and he's even better at scoring off the bounce.
Ahmed Hill
Courtesy of Aljami DurhamAhmed Hill has already scored more than 2,000 points in high school.
"I score best with my mid-range pull-up and by getting all the way to the rim," Hill said.
Hill, at 6-foot-5 and 190 pounds, is a strong and physical guard who also has an excellent motor and toughness. Hill also has the body and athleticism to be a multiple-position defender.
How it fits: Hill will add toughness and competitiveness to the Marquette perimeter in addition to his ability to score in a variety of ways. Hill will be a finisher on the break and a powerful driver/slasher and pull-up jumper specialist with the Marquette set offense. Head coach Buzz Williams will have the luxury of featuring Hill in their scoring actions, creating matchup problems on the wing. Hill can get to the rim and draw fouls and and-ones at end-of-clock situations. Hill will also be successful at defending both wing positions and can even switch onto a point guard at end-of-clock situations.
Who he reminds us of: Hill has some game similarities to former Kentucky and current Boston Celtics shooting guard Keith Bogans. Hill is a strong, tough and physical scorer who will also be a successful defender.
How the class is shaping up: Hill gives the Golden Eagles their third pledge and second ESPN 100 performer, joining versatile, in-state small forward Sandy Cohen (Green Bay, Wis./Seymour) and high productive glue-guy power forward Malek Harris (Orland Park, Ill./Carl Sandburg) to give Marquette a class that provides toughness, scoring, rebounding and good overall versatility. Williams and his staff will devote their full attention to getting a post player next, and wide body power forward/center Tory Miller (Lee's Summit, Mo./New Hampton) is at the top of the wish list.
I love how much we hear about this kid's defense.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 12, 2013, 09:03:47 PM
Excellent news. Welcome to the Marquette family Mr. Hill.
Get me some Shayok/Miller and some Stone/Matthews and I will be one satisfied fan.
Wonder if Shayok and Miller both commit that means Harris has been cut loose.
superb get love the final 3 choices. Welcome Mr. Hill..., tell your friends.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 13, 2013, 10:49:20 AM
Wonder if Shayok and Miller both commit that means Harris has been cut loose.
I wouldn't say that. There were rumors that they would oversign before the Harris suspension was announced.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 13, 2013, 10:49:20 AM
Wonder if Shayok and Miller both commit that means Harris has been cut loose.
They can all sign letters of intent in about a month, so may as well just wait until then to worry about it.
Welcome Ahmed...Scholarship table updated: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 12, 2013, 02:09:36 PM
Welcome to MU
Chicos - Curious - I recall you suggesting IU didn't want Hill based on the commit from Robert Johnson, yet they continued to try to get Hill on campus for a visit after the Johnson commit - is that the reason for your luke warm welcome here? Most of us are ecstatic about the Hill commit!
How does it sit with you when MU lands a player IU coveted? In other words which team/coach do you want to see succeed more?
Quote from: Ners on October 13, 2013, 01:23:17 PM
Chicos - Curious - I recall you suggesting IU didn't want Hill based on the commit from Robert Johnson, yet they continued to try to get Hill on campus for a visit after the Johnson commit - is that the reason for your luke warm welcome here? Most of us are ecstatic about the Hill commit!
How does it sit with you when MU lands a player IU coveted? In other words which team/coach do you want to see succeed more?
Why start this?
In before the lock!
Quote from: Pakuni on October 13, 2013, 01:25:31 PM
Why start this?
Just curious...I find it interesting to delve into the abyss of what a mindf*ck it must be to be a die hard fan of both MU and IU. And since this is the MU fan site, I am genuinely interested to hear from Chicos how he reconciles saying IU basically "cooled' on Hill after getting the Johnson commit, yet after Johnson committed - IU was still trying hard to get Hill on campus for a visit. Does it actually gnaw at the Bondsmen that Buzz wins a recruiting battle against TC? I mean why try to suggest IU didn't want Hill after getting the Johnson commit - when that absolutely wasn't the case??
Why don't you ask him in a PM? You get the answer to your question and we don't have another thread hijacked.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 13, 2013, 01:43:40 PM
Why don't you ask him in a PM? You get the answer to your question and we don't have another thread hijacked.
This
(http://assistedtransition.com/denver/files/2012/09/EverythingsComingUpMilhouse.jpg)
http://www.wjbf.com/story/23680799/hill-finds-new-home-at-marquette?clienttype=generic&smartdevicecgbypass
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on October 13, 2013, 08:02:30 PM
http://www.wjbf.com/story/23680799/hill-finds-new-home-at-marquette?clienttype=generic&smartdevicecgbypass
Buzz visited him in Georgia
nine times? Sounds like Buzz really, really wanted Hill at MU. And glad he liked what he saw after waiting to see what we had to offer.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 13, 2013, 01:43:40 PM
Why don't you ask him in a PM? You get the answer to your question and we don't have another thread hijacked.
I predict by page 5 we will all be privy to a heated debate on whether carrots are best as a spring or fall crop.
Quote from: chapman on October 13, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
Buzz visited him in Georgia nine times? Sounds like Buzz really, really wanted Hill at MU. And glad he liked what he saw after waiting to see what we had to offer.
That's why cutting bait when players like Looney don't show interest is so important. Time is a limited resource.
That's why having the university committed to spending what is necessary, such as charter aircraft, is so important.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 13, 2013, 09:17:02 PM
That's why having the university committed to spending what is necessary, such as charter aircraft, is so important.
Bingo. That is huge....also helps that Buzz is a tireless worker.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 13, 2013, 09:17:02 PM
That's why having the university committed to spending what is necessary, such as charter aircraft, is so important.
What's the budget for midnight Limo rentals these days?
Quote from: keefe on October 13, 2013, 10:23:01 PM
What's the budget for midnight Limo rentals these days?
We talking about the Marquette student safety LIMOs or real limos here ;)
With guards Noskowiak, Flory, Cohen and Hill orally committing and the talented freshman guards already here, coach Buzz can pick and choose future guards the next year or two and concentrate on recruiting forwards and centers. Let the good times roll.
Quote from: raul on October 13, 2013, 11:15:49 PM
With guards Noskowiak, Flory, Cohen and Hill orally committing and the talented freshman guards already here, coach Buzz can pick and choose future guards the next year or two and concentrate on recruiting forwards and centers. Let the good times roll.
Cohen, Hill and Flory might all be playing some small forward in the future. That is a position that will be open with only Deonte Burton at that spot or possibly JJJ. The guard position
will be stocked for a long time now is correct. Not sure the need for oversigning, but I doubt they sign Harris until the spring, so if Shayok commits or Miller then Harris maybe out anyway.
Should as usual be interesting. I would hope the freshman class stays together, if that happens, I see no transfers going forward, only have one soph in Steve Taylor and I see him getting
solid minutes this year and big minutes next year. Any word how Miller liked his visit?
Quote from: chapman on October 13, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
Buzz visited him in Georgia nine times? Sounds like Buzz really, really wanted Hill at MU. And glad he liked what he saw after waiting to see what we had to offer.
I predict by page 5 we will all be privy to a heated debate on whether carrots are best as a spring or fall crop.
Fall. To think otherwise is sheer madness...
Quote from: BCHoopster on October 13, 2013, 11:26:48 PM
Cohen, Hill and Flory might all be playing some small forward in the future. That is a position that will be open with only Deonte Burton at that spot or possibly JJJ. The guard position
will be stocked for a long time now is correct. Not sure the need for oversigning, but I doubt they sign Harris until the spring, so if Shayok commits or Miller then Harris maybe out anyway.
Should as usual be interesting. I would hope the freshman class stays together, if that happens, I see no transfers going forward, only have one soph in Steve Taylor and I see him getting
solid minutes this year and big minutes next year. Any word how Miller liked his visit?
We have four scholarships available with three commits. The next commitment does not create an oversigning position. I also believe the current plans are that Mayo will not be back, which is one of the reasons we needed Hill and still want Shayok. The fifth commitment gets Mayo's scholarship and the 6th commitment is bad news for Harris.
Quote from: bilsu on October 14, 2013, 10:46:00 AM
We have four scholarships available with three commits. The next commitment does not create an oversigning position. I also believe the current plans are that Mayo will not be back, which is one of the reasons we needed Hill and still want Shayok. The fifth commitment gets Mayo's scholarship and the 6th commitment is bad news for Harris.
After Mayo's suspension last year, we hard that he wasn't coming back (cause he was playing pro ball in South Africa or some such nonsense).
Then after he came back, we heard he wasn't coming back this year.
Now that he's back this year, the plan is he won't be back next year?
Quote from: Pakuni on October 14, 2013, 10:49:10 AM
After Mayo's suspension last year, we hard that he wasn't coming back (cause he was playing pro ball in South Africa or some such nonsense).
Then after he came back, we heard he wasn't coming back this year.
Now that he's back this year, the plan is he won't be back next year?
If he has a Vander like year he may not be back. He is older than most of the kids on the team, so there could be some truth to that. This can be discussed after he
plays 35 games and has an outstanding year. Time will tell.
Let's just hope ABA doesn't come calling mid-season, and if it does, his fridge is full.
Quote from: BCHoopster on October 14, 2013, 10:52:38 AM
If he has a Vander like year he may not be back. He is older than most of the kids on the team, so there could be some truth to that. This can be discussed after he
plays 35 games and has an outstanding year. Time will tell.
If he has a Vander-like season, I would be very surprised...pleasantly surprised but still surprised. And if is as good as Vander was, I wouldn't come out if I were him. Vander was younger, was a more heralded prospect, had a more NBA ready body, and the draft last year was weak. 2014's draft is gonna be stacked. Mayo would have to have a Big East Player of the Year type season to get drafted.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 14, 2013, 11:11:06 AM
If he has a Vander-like season, I would be very surprised...pleasantly surprised but still surprised. And if is as good as Vander was, I wouldn't come out if I were him. Vander was younger, was a more heralded prospect, had a more NBA ready body, and the draft last year was weak. 2014's draft is gonna be stacked. Mayo would have to have a Big East Player of the Year type season to get drafted.
I agree, I do not see NBA talent in Mayo yet, but you never know. Maybe his brother will help him this year, but I really see him coming back. He might have a heard time
even starting the whole year.
Quote from: BCHoopster on October 14, 2013, 10:52:38 AM
If he has a Vander like year he may not be back. He is older than most of the kids on the team, so there could be some truth to that. This can be discussed after he
plays 35 games and has an outstanding year. Time will tell.
OK, sure, but you could say that about just about anyone on the roster.
My point is, we've been hearing reports since last summer about Todd's pre-ordained departure, none of which have come to fruition.
http://chronicle.augusta.com/sports/college/2013-10-13/aquinas-ahmed-hill-expects-contribute-when-he-gets-marquette#.UlwY04ZFjWo.twitter
Quote from: Pakuni on October 14, 2013, 11:45:34 AM
http://chronicle.augusta.com/sports/college/2013-10-13/aquinas-ahmed-hill-expects-contribute-when-he-gets-marquette#.UlwY04ZFjWo.twitter
Love this
"they [MU] don't have football, so everything is based on basketball"
Quote from: Pakuni on October 14, 2013, 11:45:34 AM
http://chronicle.augusta.com/sports/college/2013-10-13/aquinas-ahmed-hill-expects-contribute-when-he-gets-marquette#.UlwY04ZFjWo.twitter
Nice find. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like a great kid, and love his and Mom's enthusiasm for MU and Buzz. Can't wait to see him play at MU. He's got great size for his position....and can see him very well being a Wesley Matthews + player at MU.
Oversigning will always lead to suspicions and conspiracy theories. But the simple truth is we've had unexpected departures every year since Buzz took over:
2008 -- Scott Christopherson, Trevor Mbakwe
2009 -- Patrick Hazel
2010 -- Yous Mbao, Jeronne Maymon
2011 -- Erik Williams, Reggie Smith
2012 -- Jamail Jones
2013 -- Jamal Ferguson, Vander Blue
And if not for Van declaring, we'd probably add Jake and Juan to that 2013 list. We've had at least one transfer out every year since Buzz has been here for various reasons. After this year, who knows what happens? Maybe one of next year's seniors feels they'll have less PT and leaves as a graduate transfer. Maybe one of our underclassmen declares for the draft again. Maybe one of the youngsters doesn't feel there will be enough minutes for them in the future. Who knows? All I know is that with current trends, oversigning by one would more likely be signing as many as we'll need to fill all scholarships, or more likely the oversigning by one will actually be undersigning by one.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 14, 2013, 11:54:09 AM
Oversigning will always lead to suspicions and conspiracy theories. But the simple truth is we've had unexpected departures every year since Buzz took over:
2008 -- Scott Christopherson, Trevor Mbakwe
2009 -- Patrick Hazel
2010 -- Yous Mbao, Jeronne Maymon
2011 -- Erik Williams, Reggie Smith
2012 -- Jamail Jones
2013 -- Jamal Ferguson, Vander Blue
Three-quarters of these weren't unexpected if you're paying attention.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on October 14, 2013, 12:21:06 PM
Three-quarters of these weren't unexpected if you're paying attention.
Over a year in advance? Because that's when we are getting these commitments. Sure, you could figure many of them out by the time February rolled around, but there's no way we knew 75% of these transfers were going to happen in October before the season started. Hell, 40% of these guys hadn't even suited up once for Marquette by that point, so trying to put 75% as your figure is just bad math.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 14, 2013, 12:24:06 PM
Over a year in advance? Because that's when we are getting these commitments. Sure, you could figure many of them out by the time February rolled around, but there's no way we knew 75% of these transfers were going to happen in October before the season started. Hell, 40% of these guys hadn't even suited up once for Marquette by that point, so trying to put 75% as your figure is just bad math.
Three-quarters of these weren't unexpected if you're paying attention.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on October 14, 2013, 12:25:12 PM
Three-quarters of these weren't unexpected if you're paying attention.
4 of the 10 left playing only one season or less here. There's no way you could have known they would leave before they suited up.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 14, 2013, 01:29:47 PM
4 of the 10 left playing only one season or less here. There's no way you could have known they would leave before they suited up.
Someone getting kicked off the team doesn't count as "leaving unexpectedly."
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 14, 2013, 11:54:09 AM
Oversigning will always lead to suspicions and conspiracy theories. But the simple truth is we've had unexpected departures every year since Buzz took over:
2008 -- Scott Christopherson, Trevor Mbakwe
2009 -- Patrick Hazel
2010 -- Yous Mbao, Jeronne Maymon
2011 -- Erik Williams, Reggie Smith
2012 -- Jamail Jones
2013 -- Jamal Ferguson, Vander Blue
And if not for Van declaring, we'd probably add Jake and Juan to that 2013 list. We've had at least one transfer out every year since Buzz has been here for various reasons. After this year, who knows what happens? Maybe one of next year's seniors feels they'll have less PT and leaves as a graduate transfer. Maybe one of our underclassmen declares for the draft again. Maybe one of the youngsters doesn't feel there will be enough minutes for them in the future. Who knows? All I know is that with current trends, oversigning by one would more likely be signing as many as we'll need to fill all scholarships, or more likely the oversigning by one will actually be undersigning by one.
I'm going to quibble about Maymon and Smith since they both left at semester break, so over signing to cover for that would have still been over signing when the school year started leading to a very embarrassing situation.
I'm talking about over signing as of right now. Anyone insinuating they knew Maymon, Smith, Mbao, and Ferguson were leaving as of October of their freshman years is lying. Or they are just paying really close attention. ::)
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 14, 2013, 03:51:21 PM
I'm talking about over signing as of right now. Anyone insinuating they knew Maymon, Smith, Mbao, and Ferguson were leaving as of October of their freshman years is lying. Or they are just paying really close attention. ::)
I wasnt around when the first 3 were here but seeing Ferguson on campus you could tell. Never smiled, was never walking or hanging out with other teammates and if you watch the Davidson comeback hes the only guy on the bench not jumping up and cheering.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 14, 2013, 03:51:21 PM
I'm talking about over signing as of right now. Anyone insinuating they knew Maymon, Smith, Mbao, and Ferguson were leaving as of October of their freshman years is lying. Or they are just paying really close attention. ::)
Don't worry Brew, the silent majority are intelligent enough to understand your point. Some of these people are either extremely ignorant, extremely stubborn, or both.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 14, 2013, 11:45:34 AM
http://chronicle.augusta.com/sports/college/2013-10-13/aquinas-ahmed-hill-expects-contribute-when-he-gets-marquette#.UlwY04ZFjWo.twitter
"Their style of play fits – they get out and go and shoot the ball," Hill said. "I know I can come in and be an impact player right away. They're trying to build around me, be the centerpiece. They want me to come in and be a scorer and leader for them."
I hope he knows Buzz wants his players to earn their playing time and is not disappointed if he is not the centerpiece right off the bat.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 14, 2013, 07:01:29 PM
I hope he knows Buzz wants his players to earn their playing time and is not disappointed if he is not the centerpiece right off the bat.
Seems every other recruit says this nowadays. They learn to reset expectations quickly when they get to campus and realize they have a mountain to climb just to be one of a half dozen centerpieces on the team and "contribute" means getting any share of the 200 available minutes.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 14, 2013, 06:14:35 PM
Don't worry Brew, the silent majority are intelligent enough to understand your point. Some of these people are either extremely ignorant, extremely stubborn, or both.
Don't worry about my sense of intelligence.
His point was easy to understand. Mine apparently wasn't.
Ok, I'll play your game. Please provide your list of guys, you knew were leaving 6 months in advance.
Again, I am not talking about 20/20 hindsight. You claim you knew of 3/4 of the transfers 6 months before they happened, so back it up.
We do not know, but Buzz knows more than we do. He knew Blue wanted to go pro, even though Buzz tried to get him to stay. I think Buzz knows that Mayo wants to do the same thing, whether Buzz thinks it is a good idea or not. Buzz has two choices. Do nothing and hope Mayo stays or recruit for Mayo's spot knowing that Mayo might not leave. I am sure he knew quite early that Ferguson was going to leave. Maybe even before last year's November signing date. It would of not taken Ferguson to long to figure out he was not going to play last year or in the future. MU had early commitments from Wilson, Burton, Dawson and JJJ and it does not seem unlikely that he would of told Buzz early on that he was leaving.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 15, 2013, 06:22:54 PM
Ok, I'll play your game. Please provide your list of guys, you knew were leaving 6 months in advance.
Again, I am not talking about 20/20 hindsight. You claim you knew of 3/4 of the transfers 6 months before they happened, so back it up.
How would anyone know all this stuff six month in advance?
Exactly the point, they don't know. If Buzz would manage to oversign by one in a couple weeks, it isn't because he knows X will probably transfer or Y won't end up enrolling. He need only understand that eight months down the line the chances of nine players eligible to return alll returning AND five signees all being eligible and ready to enroll are extremely low. So low that when the time comes the oversigning issues that people got overly excited about are usually worked out, but there have even been additional open spots.
Ahmed at NBA Top 100 Camp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvrMTSOxeIo
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 15, 2013, 06:22:54 PM
Ok, I'll play your game. Please provide your list of guys, you knew were leaving 6 months in advance.
Again, I am not talking about 20/20 hindsight. You claim you knew of 3/4 of the transfers 6 months before they happened, so back it up.
There is no game here. Read between the lines and use the powers of deduction you learned at Marquette.
More on topic, Hill is a tremendous recruit for Marquette. He won't leave early.
FWIW, with Hill's signing, Marquette jumps to #19 on ESPN's ranking of 2014 recruiting classes: http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/classrankings/rank?rank=19&class=2014&date=20131016
Also in the current top 25:
Seton Hall (#4)
Georgetown (#5)
Xavier (#10)
Providence (#16)
Does someone have a list of where our recruiting classes ranked over the last 5 years or so? It would be fun to compare that to where our team was ranked at the end of the season in the trailing years. Another way to prove what an amazing coach Buzz is. Imagine what he will do with a couple of top-20 recruiting classes.
According to Scout
2009 18th
2010 24th
2011 not top 25
2012 not top 25
2013 10th
2014 currently 13th
Quote from: MUMountin on October 16, 2013, 12:42:48 PM
FWIW, with Hill's signing, Marquette jumps to #19 on ESPN's ranking of 2014 recruiting classes: http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/classrankings/rank?rank=19&class=2014&date=20131016
Also in the current top 25:
Seton Hall (#4)
Georgetown (#5)
Xavier (#10)
Providence (#16)
Clearly the new conference is going to hurt recruiting
MU up to #13 in Scout's latest class rankings.
Also:
#4 Georgetown
#6 Seton Hall
#12 Providence
#17 Xavier
#23 Villanova
The (New) Big East continues to be a drag on recruiting.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=14&cfg=bb&yr=2014