List down to two schools, both not named Marquette.
I am aware of no more 2014 Centers that are on the recruiting board.
Quote from: moomoo on October 02, 2013, 05:16:15 AM
List down to two schools, both not named Marquette.
I am aware of no more 2014 Centers that are on the recruiting board.
I guess that you are calling Tory Miller a PF then.
So who's left?
Lattin
Miller
????
What 2 schools are on his list?
He took officials to Arizona State and USC...so I am assuming those are the two.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 02, 2013, 09:58:13 AM
Lattin is gone also
So it's Miller or bust now? Would Buzz take both Hill and Shayok or would he save one space for a JC big?
Quote from: Aughnanure on October 02, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
So it's Miller or bust now? Would Buzz take both Hill and Shayok or would he save one space for a JC big?
Jerry Meyer seems to think Marquette would take Hill and Shayok.
Quote from: Aughnanure on October 02, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
So it's Miller or bust now? Would Buzz take both Hill and Shayok or would he save one space for a JC big?
My two cents, take them both, and if you get a big, oversign. Someone will leave for the draft or otherwise transfer.
Quote from: Archies Bat on October 02, 2013, 10:24:48 AM
My two cents, take them both, and if you get a big, oversign. Someone will leave for the draft or otherwise transfer.
I am 99% sure that is what they will do *if* offered the opportunity.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 02, 2013, 10:29:09 AM
I am 99% sure that is what they will do *if* offered the opportunity.
I see no reason to take both, if one commits next week, the other one is out. Cohen is a guard, both are guards and you have a bunch coming back, it makes no sense.
Leave one open for a transfer or JC kid in spring. They will be awful small in 2 years, might have some height but no bulk, guess Deonte Burton will be playing center.
We are doomed!
Doomed, I say!!!
I don't think there was ever any indicator we were in the running for Craig. We simply had a visit with him and offer, but that is about all I saw in regards to being linked with him. Didn't seem like there was strong mutual interest at any point.
I have no idea who might be out there but adding a JC to Taylor's class makes a ton of sense to me. Sure would be nice if 'Jae Crowder II' could give us two solid years of leadership alongside Steve. We all know what Coach Al said about Freshmen.
Quote from: MU82 on October 02, 2013, 10:36:58 AM
We are doomed!
Doomed, I say!!!
Not at all, you can win with good shooting and fast breaking (if you get a rebound), not sure how other teams will defend MU, a frontline of Taylor, McKay, Burton would not be
to bad, add Wilson and Mayo and you have a pretty fun team to watch. Juan Anderson might be in there as well. Malik Harris will have to play some upfront minutes next year.
Quote from: jsglow on October 02, 2013, 10:42:52 AM
I have no idea who might be out there but adding a JC to Taylor's class makes a ton of sense to me. Sure would be nice if 'Jae Crowder II' could give us two solid years of leadership alongside Steve. We all know what Coach Al said about Freshmen.
Yeah, somethin' 'bout liftin' the hotel TV and not the ashtray.
Quote from: BCHoopster on October 02, 2013, 10:35:22 AM
I see no reason to take both, if one commits next week, the other one is out. Cohen is a guard, both are guards and you have a bunch coming back, it makes no sense.
Leave one open for a transfer or JC kid in spring. They will be awful small in 2 years, might have some height but no bulk, guess Deonte Burton will be playing center.
Shayok and Hill are not the same player. Hill is one of the top scoring guards left in the country. He fills a critical need IMO.
Shayok is more of a wing player in the mold of Juan Anderson (at least as body type goes.)
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 02, 2013, 10:41:38 AM
I don't think there was ever any indicator we were in the running for Craig. We simply had a visit with him and offer, but that is about all I saw in regards to being linked with him. Didn't seem like there was strong mutual interest at any point.
Of course there was not any "mutual interest" in him. We did not really want or need him. We are concentrating on more better fits. Translation: other switchables.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 02, 2013, 10:48:44 AM
Of course there was not any "mutual interest" in him. We did not really want or need him. We are concentrating on more better fits. Translation: other switchables.
Thank God! Where have you been? Several posters were about to do a wellness check.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 02, 2013, 10:47:57 AM
Yeah, somethin' 'bout liftin' the hotel TV and not the ashtray towels.
FIFY
I saw one of the best JUCO big men committed to Kansas St last night. I don't know any details about him, but wonder if we were recruiting him?
2014-2015 MU will have Taylor and McKay. 2015 will enter the Diamond Stone year.
I think we would take Hill, Shayok, and Miller. I actually think there's a decent chance all three commit at Madness.
The writing on the wall seems to be that Hill and Shayok will fill our last two spots in this years class. I am perfectly fine with this. That should be good for another top 25 class full of guys who want to be at Marquette. We do need to sign a big, but there are still options for us:
1) We oversign. We get Tory Miler, Travon Bunch, a juco, or a senior transfer for the 5. We have enough potential talent on this team that someone could get drafted early. Also, there always seems to be a Jamal Ferguson, Chris Christopherson, or Jamail Jones who flames out and transfers elsewhere.
2) We get someone in 2015. If Steve has truly grown to 6"9 then he can play the 5 next year. McKay can back him up and Harris may grow in the next year. It would certainly not be the smallest team we have ever fielded. Buzz is big game hunting in 2015. I think we currently have 7 offers out to bigs ranked in the top 50 in 2015. I am confident we will land one of them. Between that signee and Taylor, we will be fine at the five in the future.
3) Otule gets his 7th year of eligibility
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 02, 2013, 11:23:29 AM
The writing on the wall seems to be that Hill and Shayok will fill our last two spots in this years class. I am perfectly fine with this. That should be good for another top 25 class full of guys who want to be at Marquette. We do need to sign a big, but there are still options for us:
1) We oversign. We get Tory Miler, Travon Bunch, a juco, or a senior transfer for the 5. We have enough potential talent on this team that someone could get drafted early. Also, there always seems to be a Jamal Ferguson, Chris Christopherson, or Jamail Jones who flames out and transfers elsewhere.
2) We get someone in 2015. If Steve has truly grown to 6"9 then he can play the 5 next year. McKay can back him up and Harris may grow in the next year. It would certainly not be the smallest team we have ever fielded. Buzz is big game hunting in 2015. I think we currently have 7 offers out to bigs ranked in the top 50 in 2015. I am confident we will land one of them. Between that signee and Taylor, we will be fine at the five in the future.
3) Otule gets his 7th year of eligibility
Based on the picture below, it looks like Steve is very near 6'9" now. I say this because Jameel (just behind him) has been measured at 6' 9 3/4" (based upon his own tweet), and it looks like Jameel doesn't have more than an inch on him, minus the hair.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVhuaf1CIAA_Fpk.jpg:large)
I am very comfortable with the thought of Steve and Jameel being the 4 and 5 for the 2014 season. Both are great rebounders and are above-average athletes. We may run into problems if we play a thick-bodied, skilled big ala davante, but otherwise we should be fine. However, we will need a big by the 2015 season (fingers crossed for Stone).
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 02, 2013, 11:23:29 AM
The writing on the wall seems to be that Hill and Shayok will fill our last two spots in this years class. I am perfectly fine with this. That should be good for another top 25 class full of guys who want to be at Marquette. We do need to sign a big, but there are still options for us:
1) We oversign. We get Tory Miler, Travon Bunch, a juco, or a senior transfer for the 5. We have enough potential talent on this team that someone could get drafted early. Also, there always seems to be a Jamal Ferguson, Chris Christopherson, or Jamail Jones who flames out and transfers elsewhere.
2) We get someone in 2015. If Steve has truly grown to 6"9 then he can play the 5 next year. McKay can back him up and Harris may grow in the next year. It would certainly not be the smallest team we have ever fielded. Buzz is big game hunting in 2015. I think we currently have 7 offers out to bigs ranked in the top 50 in 2015. I am confident we will land one of them. Between that signee and Taylor, we will be fine at the five in the future.
3) Otule gets his 7th year of eligibility
I would think Bunch, a juco or senior transfer are spring signees, so there would be no reason to oversign for them. I think we would oversign for Miller. My gut feeling is that Mayo plans to follow the Blue path to success.
Quote from: netty24 on October 02, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
Based on the picture below, it looks like Steve is very near 6'9" now. I say this because Jameel (just behind him) has been measured at 6' 9 3/4" (based upon his own tweet), and it looks like Jameel doesn't have more than an inch on him, minus the hair.
I am very comfortable with the thought of Steve and Jameel being the 4 and 5 for the 2014 season. Both are great rebounders and are above-average athletes. We may run into problems if we play a thick-bodied, skilled big ala davante, but otherwise we should be fine. However, we will need a big by the 2015 season (fingers crossed for Stone).
But we WILL run into teams with true centers if we plan on making a run to the final four this year.
Is this photo an ad for Amarillo Embroidery?
Quote from: Atticus on October 02, 2013, 12:44:10 PM
But we WILL run into teams with true centers if we plan on making a run to the final four this year.
I'm not worried in the least about facing true centers this season, this is probably the deepest frontcourt i can remember (born in 1991). I am a tad worried about the 2014 season, though.
Quote from: netty24 on October 02, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
Based on the picture below, it looks like Steve is very near 6'9" now. I say this because Jameel (just behind him) has been measured at 6' 9 3/4" (based upon his own tweet), and it looks like Jameel doesn't have more than an inch on him, minus the hair.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVhuaf1CIAA_Fpk.jpg:large)
I am very comfortable with the thought of Steve and Jameel being the 4 and 5 for the 2014 season. Both are great rebounders and are above-average athletes. We may run into problems if we play a thick-bodied, skilled big ala davante, but otherwise we should be fine. However, we will need a big by the 2015 season (fingers crossed for Stone).
Buzz looks like he's aged some and grown out his hair.
Quote from: BCHoopster on October 02, 2013, 10:43:54 AM
Not at all, you can win with good shooting and fast breaking (if you get a rebound), not sure how other teams will defend MU, a frontline of Taylor, McKay, Burton would not be
to bad, add Wilson and Mayo and you have a pretty fun team to watch. Juan Anderson might be in there as well. Malik Harris will have to play some upfront minutes next year.
Ummm ... I was being a tad facetious.
I smell a spring JUCO big signing. Someone ready to play right away. Another McKay perhaps. The one thing that is known for sure is that Buzz will be out there recruiting.
Quote from: netty24 on October 02, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
Based on the picture below, it looks like Steve is very near 6'9" now. I say this because Jameel (just behind him) has been measured at 6' 9 3/4" (based upon his own tweet), and it looks like Jameel doesn't have more than an inch on him, minus the hair.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVhuaf1CIAA_Fpk.jpg:large)
I am very comfortable with the thought of Steve and Jameel being the 4 and 5 for the 2014 season. Both are great rebounders and are above-average athletes. We may run into problems if we play a thick-bodied, skilled big ala davante, but otherwise we should be fine. However, we will need a big by the 2015 season (fingers crossed for Stone).
Is that Davante on the left??? Somebody better feed that Guy!
Quote from: NotAnAlum on October 02, 2013, 02:02:42 PM
Is that Davante on the left??? Somebody better feed that Guy!
I think that's Coach Chew.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 02, 2013, 11:23:29 AM
The writing on the wall seems to be that Hill and Shayok will fill our last two spots in this years class. I am perfectly fine with this. That should be good for another top 25 class full of guys who want to be at Marquette. We do need to sign a big, but there are still options for us:
1) We oversign. We get Tory Miler, Travon Bunch, a juco, or a senior transfer for the 5. We have enough potential talent on this team that someone could get drafted early. Also, there always seems to be a Jamal Ferguson, Chris Christopherson, or Jamail Jones who flames out and transfers elsewhere.
2) We get someone in 2015. If Steve has truly grown to 6"9 then he can play the 5 next year. McKay can back him up and Harris may grow in the next year. It would certainly not be the smallest team we have ever fielded. Buzz is big game hunting in 2015. I think we currently have 7 offers out to bigs ranked in the top 50 in 2015. I am confident we will land one of them. Between that signee and Taylor, we will be fine at the five in the future.
3) Otule gets his 7th year of eligibility
Who's Chris Christopherson? If you mean Scott, there are much better examples out there. Scott never "flamed out." He was injured for a large part of his freshman year, which is huge, and then transferred due to a coaching change at Marquette. He then went to Iowa State, started for 3 years, made the All Big Twelve team twice, and is now getting paid to play basketball. I wish we had more flameouts like Scott Christopherson.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 02, 2013, 02:36:32 PM
Who's Chris Christopherson? If you mean Scott, there are much better examples out there. Scott never "flamed out." He was injured for a large part of his freshman year, which is huge, and then transferred due to a coaching change at Marquette. He then went to Iowa State, started for 3 years, made the All Big Twelve team twice, and is now getting paid to play basketball. I wish we had more flameouts like Scott Christopherson.
You sound like you're a big fan of coaching changes. :D
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 02, 2013, 10:52:19 AM
Thank God! Where have you been? Several posters were about to do a wellness check.
+1
The only 2 sure things on this board are Willie calling for more big men and Keefe indulging his narcissism ;D
Count me in for peein' on Crean as a given.
Then the 5 year judgment thread must be giving you great joy.
Why can't MU recruit bigs? I can't imagine that all of the (good) 3 stars, 4 stars, and 5 stars are going places where they will start from day 1. Are bigs afraid to come to MU, where there is little competition at the 4 and 5 spot?
MU 'recruits' the heck out of bigs. MU struggles to SIGN elite big men.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 02, 2013, 02:36:32 PM
Who's Chris Christopherson? If you mean Scott, there are much better examples out there. Scott never "flamed out." He was injured for a large part of his freshman year, which is huge, and then transferred due to a coaching change at Marquette. He then went to Iowa State, started for 3 years, made the All Big Twelve team twice, and is now getting paid to play basketball. I wish we had more flameouts like Scott Christopherson.
My mistake. I meant Scott not Chris. And I meant no insult with the term flame out. I meant it as they grew disenchanted with Marquette for whatever reason and decided to leave.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on October 02, 2013, 07:40:38 PM
Why can't MU recruit bigs? I can't imagine that all of the (good) 3 stars, 4 stars, and 5 stars are going places where they will start from day 1. Are bigs afraid to come to MU, where there is little competition at the 4 and 5 spot?
Hmmmm...Good question, but how dare you ask that here.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 03, 2013, 08:23:06 AM
Hmmmm...Good question, but how dare you ask that here.
Yeah, you should probably just ask it every other post for the next couple of months. It is a new and relevant topic that hasn't been discussed ad nauseum here. Willie is our resident Captain Obvious.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 03, 2013, 08:55:19 AM
Yeah, you should probably just ask it every other post for the next couple of months. It is a new and relevant topic that hasn't been discussed ad nauseum here. Willie is our resident Captain Obvious.
Not to mention that the problem isn't the question, but when the only answer from willie is "IT'S INEXCUSABLE!!!" it gets a little old.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on October 02, 2013, 07:40:38 PM
Why can't MU recruit bigs? I can't imagine that all of the (good) 3 stars, 4 stars, and 5 stars are going places where they will start from day 1. Are bigs afraid to come to MU, where there is little competition at the 4 and 5 spot?
Yes, with few exceptions (Gardner,Otule,Taylor, McKay) they're afraid to come to MU. Thanks for figuring it out, we can finally put the topic to rest.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on October 02, 2013, 07:40:38 PM
Why can't MU recruit bigs? I can't imagine that all of the (good) 3 stars, 4 stars, and 5 stars are going places where they will start from day 1. Are bigs afraid to come to MU, where there is little competition at the 4 and 5 spot?
A lot of bigs would rather play in a Syracuse zone or just stay under the basket to block shots. Buzz has Otule and Gardner playing defense all over the floor. I do not know if this is a problem in recruiting, but if you just want to play down low on defense you probably do not want to play for Buzz, which would further limit the bigman pool to recruit from.
Quote from: bilsu on October 03, 2013, 10:01:12 AM
A lot of bigs would rather play in a Syracuse zone or just stay under the basket to block shots. Buzz has Otule and Gardner playing defense all over the floor. I do not know if this is a problem in recruiting, but if you just want to play down low on defense you probably do not want to play for Buzz, which would further limit the bigman pool to recruit from.
Crean had no success with Bigs as well!
And when we do recruit "bigs" MU lists their heights several inches smaller on the roster. Who's responsible for the MU roster and specifically the listed player heights. Please update the heights for this year's team.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on October 02, 2013, 07:40:38 PM
Why can't MU recruit bigs? I can't imagine that all of the (good) 3 stars, 4 stars, and 5 stars are going places where they will start from day 1. Are bigs afraid to come to MU, where there is little competition at the 4 and 5 spot?
I can think of three reasons currently.
1) No recent history of a MU big making it in the NBA. Was McCaskill (recruited by O'Neill) the last one?
2) Negative recruiting, i.e. the Buzz is going to Texas rumor promulgated by certain other schools.
3) Buzz's unwillingness to take just anyone based on size and reputation. (Lammers? O'Mara?)
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on October 03, 2013, 10:41:39 AM
And when we do recruit "bigs" MU lists their heights several inches smaller on the roster. Who's responsible for the MU roster and specifically the listed player heights. Please update the heights for this year's team.
LOL I guess that that's one way to "get" a big.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 03, 2013, 10:42:24 AM
I can think of three reasons currently.
1) No recent history of a MU big making it in the NBA. Was McCaskill (recruited by O'Neill) the last one?
2) Negative recruiting, i.e. the Buzz is going to Texas rumor promulgated by certain other schools.
3) Buzz's unwillingness to take just anyone based on size and reputation. (Lammers? O'Mara?)
Nah, Buzz is just recruiting them all to Texas.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 03, 2013, 08:55:19 AM
Yeah, you should probably just ask it every other post for the next couple of months. It is a new and relevant topic that hasn't been discussed ad nauseum here. Willie is our resident Captain Obvious.
Yeah HardsHead, except I am not raising the question--others are. I guess they are also Captain Obvious.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on October 02, 2013, 02:02:42 PM
Is that Davante on the left??? Somebody better feed that Guy!
Looks like he wants to take a bite out of Raferty.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 03, 2013, 10:48:02 AM
Yeah HardsHead, except I am not raising the question--others are. I guess they are also Captain Obvious.
Didn't you chime in with a snarky comment? And it is somehow surprising that an equally snarky comment was returned?
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 03, 2013, 10:42:24 AM
I can think of three reasons currently.
1) No recent history of a MU big making it in the NBA. Was McCaskill (recruited by O'Neill) the last one?
2) Negative recruiting, i.e. the Buzz is going to Texas rumor promulgated by certain other schools.
3) Buzz's unwillingness to take just anyone based on size and reputation. (Lammers? O'Mara?)
I think 1 and 3 are most likely. #2 would apply to all recruits and that hasn't slowed Buzz down at all at other positions.
Honestly, I'm shocked the available playing time hasn't lured a top 150 C.
Unless the 2014 big men all know that Stone is coming in 15, which will impact their playing time. ;D IMO, JUCO big signed in the spring.
Quote from: LAZER on October 03, 2013, 11:24:22 AM
I think 1 and 3 are most likely. #2 would apply to all recruits and that hasn't slowed Buzz down at all at other positions.
Honestly, I'm shocked the available playing time hasn't lured a top 150 C.
Another thought....
A lot of the quality bigs lately are not from the midwest. If you notice, Buzz's recruiting has really started to center on the midwest with a few exceptions here and there. A lot of the guys we are in on are not from around here. They are bitching about some of the same things on the UW boards - they haven't brought any height in both last class and so far this one.
Now this is changing in 2015, but that could be a factor.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 03, 2013, 11:45:59 AM
Another thought....
A lot of the quality bigs lately are not from the midwest. If you notice, Buzz's recruiting has really started to center on the midwest with a few exceptions here and there. A lot of the guys we are in on are not from around here. They are bitching about some of the same things on the UW boards - they haven't brought any height in both last class and so far this one.
Now this is changing in 2015, but that could be a factor.
Except Sultan that Buzz has demonstrated the ability to go coast to coast. Heck, he'll go to Alaska or rural New Mexico. I think that might simply be a coincidence. I'm not particularly worried. He'll have a plan.
Any word on Jabari Parker, then?
Quote from: jsglow on October 03, 2013, 11:55:43 AM
Except Sultan that Buzz has demonstrated the ability to go coast to coast. Heck, he'll go to Alaska or rural New Mexico. I think that might simply be a coincidence. I'm not particularly worried. He'll have a plan.
Not highly rated players. With one exception (JJJ - who probably would have played for Memphis had not he got caught in a numbers game with Nick King) almost all of Buzz's higher rated players have come from the midwest. The guys coming here from across the country are either under-the-radar guys or fringe top 100 type guys.
(I guess we could include Jamail Jones and Erik Williams too...)
Look, I think we are going to be fine. Buzz finds people. He is on more than just Tori Miller. They may be more under-the-radar than we have hoped, but Buzz has proven that he can take those guys and make them serviceable big men.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 03, 2013, 11:14:37 AM
Didn't you chime in with a snarky comment? And it is somehow surprising that an equally snarky comment was returned?
Just like your own snark, eh? The pot calling the kettle black. Get real--you just object to anybody questioning our ability to recruit stud bigs, and use your own snark when that occurs. I do not question it anymore--you know, the law of averages, says sooner or later. I did remind the poster that his question was not really appropriate for some on this board.
You make a good point sultan. I concur that Buzz' blue chip kids (non JUCO) have been Midwestern with the exception of Juan and JJJ. Guess I'd put that list as Vander, Deonte, Duane, Jeronne and Steve. Certainly it seems true going forward as well.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 03, 2013, 12:09:41 PM
Just like your own snark, eh? The pot calling the kettle black. Get real--you just object to anybody questioning our ability to recruit stud bigs, and use your own snark when that occurs. I do not question it anymore--you know, the law of averages, says sooner or later. I did remind the poster that his question was not really appropriate for some on this board.
Please point to evidence supporting your claim that I object to anyone questioning our ability to recruit stud bigs. I just think it is a discussion that has been done to death on the board. Maybe next you will bring up the "Chicos is hoopaloop" theory; haven't heard that in a while.
The point is that all you do is point out that we can't recruit bigs. No kidding. Everyone knows it. Have some analysis? That's fine. Have an idea what we need to do to correct it? Great. Just don't sit back and cry about it every chance you get.
Quote from: jsglow on October 03, 2013, 12:21:21 PM
You make a good point sultan. I concur that Buzz' blue chip kids (non JUCO) have been Midwestern with the exception of Juan and JJJ. Guess I'd put that list as Vander, Deonte, Duane, Jeronne and Steve. Certainly it seems true going forward as well.
Junior Cadougan (Texas out of Canada), Jamail Jones (Florida out of, I think, Georgia) and Erik Williams (Texas) were all "blue chippers" rated in the top 75 in their class.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 03, 2013, 12:36:16 PM
Please point to evidence supporting your claim that I object to anyone questioning our ability to recruit stud bigs. I just think it is a discussion that has been done to death on the board. Maybe next you will bring up the "Chicos is hoopaloop" theory; haven't heard that in a while.
The point is that all you do is point out that we can't recruit bigs. No kidding. Everyone knows it. Have some analysis? That's fine. Have an idea what we need to do to correct it? Great. Just don't sit back and cry about it every chance you get.
His "analysis" is that it's unacceptable. The consequence of this "unacceptable" shortcoming should be nothing. Hope he's not anyone's father.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 03, 2013, 12:36:16 PM
Please point to evidence supporting your claim that I object to anyone questioning our ability to recruit stud bigs. I just think it is a discussion that has been done to death on the board. Maybe next you will bring up the "Chicos is hoopaloop" theory; haven't heard that in a while.
The point is that all you do is point out that we can't recruit bigs. No kidding. Everyone knows it. Have some analysis? That's fine. Have an idea what we need to do to correct it? Great. Just don't sit back and cry about it every chance you get.
More snark--snark, snark. Not crying about it--you seem to be crying about my comment about somebody else bringing it up. I'm not raising it anymore--law of averages. Pick on that person for bringing it up--or perhaps you like "beating a dead horse"
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 03, 2013, 01:47:15 PM
Junior Cadougan (Texas out of Canada), Jamail Jones (Florida out of, I think, Georgia) and Erik Williams (Texas) were all "blue chippers" rated in the top 75 in their class.
True 'nuff.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 03, 2013, 01:47:15 PM
Junior Cadougan (Texas out of Canada), Jamail Jones (Florida out of, I think, Georgia) and Erik Williams (Texas) were all "blue chippers" rated in the top 75 in their class.
Erik Williams was top 100, but not top 75.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 03, 2013, 01:47:15 PM
Junior Cadougan (Texas out of Canada), Jamail Jones (Florida out of, I think, Georgia) and Erik Williams (Texas) were all "blue chippers" rated in the top 75 in their class.
Those were also 3 guys from Buzz's first two classes. In recent years, he has definitely made a shift to recruiting locally. Whether that's a product or more highly rated available players in Wisconsin and close to the borders or a planned shift I don't know, but in the past couple years and going forward, recruits like Taylor, Burton, Wilson, McKay, Harris, Cohen, Noskowiak, and Flory show a strong movement to recruit local.
Clearly we are still mining for diamonds in the rough outside this area, and recruiting guys like JJJ and Hill shows we will still try to recruit nationally, but we've put a premium on closing some of our borders and saying "These are OUR guys."
Quote from: Rockmic87 on October 03, 2013, 10:25:10 AM
Crean had no success with Bigs as well!
Depending on how you define bigs.
Merritt
Jackson
Jackson
Novak
Kinsella
Barro
Grimm
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 03, 2013, 06:31:25 PM
Erik Williams was top 100, but not top 75.
EWill was #70 for the class of 2009 per the RSCI consensus index
http://www.rscihoops.com/
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 03, 2013, 06:31:25 PM
Erik Williams was top 100, but not top 75.
Erik Williams was #67 in the 2009 final RSCI.
Quote from: NYWarrior on October 03, 2013, 08:08:35 PM
EWill was #70 for the class of 2009 per the RSCI consensus index
http://www.rscihoops.com/
Sorry I missed this or would not have replied.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 03, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
Those were also 3 guys from Buzz's first two classes. In recent years, he has definitely made a shift to recruiting locally. Whether that's a product or more highly rated available players in Wisconsin and close to the borders or a planned shift I don't know, but in the past couple years and going forward, recruits like Taylor, Burton, Wilson, McKay, Harris, Cohen, Noskowiak, and Flory show a strong movement to recruit local.
Clearly we are still mining for diamonds in the rough outside this area, and recruiting guys like JJJ and Hill shows we will still try to recruit nationally, but we've put a premium on closing some of our borders and saying "These are OUR guys."
No disagreements.