Per ESPN and the Associated Press:
NEW YORK -- CBS Sports has struck a deal with Fox Sports to acquire the rights to televise Big East basketball games from the 2013-14 season through 2018-19.
In the first year of the deal, CBS will broadcast two games and CBS Sports Network will air 18.
Beginning with the 2014-15 season, CBS Sports will have the right to up to 30 men's basketball games per year, with up to five on CBS.
The deal gives CBS the rights to nonconference and conference games. CBS Sports Network also will air a minimum of two women's basketball games per year, as well as some Olympic sports.
The Big East is back to being a basketball only conference. The schools without FBS football teams broke away from the football schools and took the name.
So does this mean we will have to pay more for MU basketball? CBS Sports is a premium channel.
CBS SPORTS SIGNS MULTI-YEAR DEAL TO BROADCAST BIG EAST CONFERENCE BASKETBALL
BIG EAST Games to be Featured on CBS Sports and CBS Sports Network
via Sublicense Deal with Fox Sports
2013-14 Schedule Features Multiple Appearances by
Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova and St. John's
CBS Sports has acquired the rights to televise BIG EAST Conference college basketball games on the CBS Television Network and CBS Sports Network through a sublicensing agreement with Fox Sports. The multi-year agreement begins with the 2013-2014 college basketball season and continues through 2018-2019.
Beginning with the 2014-2015 season, the deal provides for up to 30 men's basketball games per year combined on CBS Sports and CBS Sports Network. CBS Sports can broadcast up to five games each year, with CBS Sports Network airing the remaining contests as part of the agreement.
In the first year of the deal for the 2013-2014 season, CBS Sports will broadcast two games and CBS Sports Network will air 18 match-ups. Both CBS Sports and CBS Sports Network will have access to non-conference and conference games. Also, CBS Sports Network will air a minimum of two women's games per year, as well as select Olympic sports.
"We are excited about our new agreement with Fox, which extends our 30-year relationship with the BIG EAST Conference," said Sean McManus, Chairman, CBS Sports. "Today's announcement continues our recent string of new agreements strengthening our programming, and further solidifying CBS Sports as the leader in college basketball."
Quote from: brandx on September 05, 2013, 05:56:47 PM
So does this mean we will have to pay more for MU basketball? CBS Sports is a premium channel.
It's in the Sportpass for TWC.
Damn
Quote from: brandx on September 05, 2013, 05:56:47 PM
So does this mean we will have to pay more for MU basketball? CBS Sports is a premium channel.
I know in the comcast (chicago) package I have. CBS Sports is included in the package that fox sports 1 is in.
Many AAC games will be on CBS Sports Network as well.
Sound like good news to me. Should help recruiting for the league, especially if we can get up to 5 games nationally on CBS
I honestly have no idea if this is good or bad. Hopefully someone can do some analysis on it. A few questions I have..
Isn't this a really big deal? Weren't we THE basketball conference on Fox? Like, the flagship?
And we've since been transferred? What does that imply amongst media companies?
Does CBS/CBSSports carry any other conferences? How are we going to compete with them for viewing, etc?
I also think this is a hindrance in terms of other shows. I feel as though with Fox Sports building a programming base, there could have been BEast specific bball shows during the season. Now, on CBS, will we get that?
Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2013, 08:05:32 PM
I honestly have no idea if this is good or bad. Hopefully someone can do some analysis on it. A few questions I have..
Isn't this a really big deal? Weren't we THE basketball conference on Fox? Like, the flagship?
And we've since been transferred? What does that imply amongst media companies?
Does CBS/CBSSports carry any other conferences? How are we going to compete with them for viewing, etc?
I also think this is a hindrance in terms of other shows. I feel as though with Fox Sports building a programming base, there could have been BEast specific bball shows during the season. Now, on CBS, will we get that?
Not a big deal. It's only 18-25 games on CBSN. Plus CBS has more exposure than FS1, so that's good. The more coverage the better.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 05, 2013, 06:30:18 PM
Sound like good news to me. Should help recruiting for the league, especially if we can get up to 5 games nationally on CBS
CBS Sports Network
Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2013, 08:05:32 PM
Does CBS/CBSSports carry any other conferences? How are we going to compete with them for viewing, etc?
I've watch CBS Sports Network for years! Many good college football show. The Tim Brando Show runs from Monday thru Friday (8am to 11am) Jim Rome has a show at 5pm. Leadoff with Doug Gottlieb and Allie La Force at 11pm.
The AAC, Big East, A-10, Mtn. West, Conf USA & Patroit League Men's basketball is on this network!
http://www.cbssportsnetwork.com/
DirecTV 221 (HD/SD)
Dish Network 158 (HD/SD)
Bell TV 413 (SD), 1432 (HD)
Verizon FiOS 94 (SD)
Comcast 854 (HD)
IPTV
Sky Angel 323 (SD)
AT&T U-verse (U.S.) 1643 (HD)
643 (SD)
Bell Fibe TV (Canada) 1413 (HD)
413 (SD)
Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2013, 08:05:32 PM
I honestly have no idea if this is good or bad. Hopefully someone can do some analysis on it. A few questions I have..
Isn't this a really big deal? Weren't we THE basketball conference on Fox? Like, the flagship?
And we've since been transferred? What does that imply amongst media companies?
Does CBS/CBSSports carry any other conferences? How are we going to compete with them for viewing, etc?
I also think this is a hindrance in terms of other shows. I feel as though with Fox Sports building a programming base, there could have been BEast specific bball shows during the season. Now, on CBS, will we get that?
This was talked about months ago. It happens. CBS bought some rights to the Big East games last year if I recall. It allows Fox some flexibility, recoup some costs, and gives CBS SN some inventory.
Just so everyone is clear,it is CBS Sports Network, not CBS. For some distributors is it in a higher tier or a sports package tier.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 05, 2013, 09:02:36 PM
This was talked about months ago. It happens. CBS bought some rights to the Big East games last year if I recall. It allows Fox some flexibility, recoup some costs, and gives CBS SN some inventory.
Just so everyone is clear,it is CBS Sports Network, not CBS. For some distributors is it in a higher tier or a sports package tier.
Actually, several games are on the mother ship CBS....
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 05, 2013, 09:02:36 PM
This was talked about months ago. It happens. CBS bought some rights to the Big East games last year if I recall. It allows Fox some flexibility, recoup some costs, and gives CBS SN some inventory.
Just so everyone is clear,it is CBS Sports Network, not CBS. For some distributors is it in a higher tier or a sports package tier.
So, there's no implication here what CBS, Fox, or any other network think of the Big East in terms of its value, etc?
This deal however gives CBS the latitude to move competitive and desirable match ups (in case some planned matchups become duds) from CBS SN to their CBS channel, right?
Quote from: Nukem2 on September 05, 2013, 09:07:25 PM
Actually, several games are on the mother ship CBS....
Understood, but the article I linked earlier in the day applies to CBSSN
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on September 05, 2013, 09:55:19 PM
This deal however gives CBS the latitude to move competitive and desirable match ups (in case some planned matchups become duds) from CBS SN to their CBS channel, right?
With out seeing the particulars, I don't know. Normally the flexibility for a network flagship like CBS would be limited to do such a thing unless what you are asking is if the 2 games CBS has the match ups can change.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 05, 2013, 10:06:25 PM
With out seeing the particulars, I don't know. Normally the flexibility for a network flagship like CBS would be limited to do such a thing unless what you are asking is if the 2 games CBS has the match ups can change.
The limitation on the number of games CBS is allowed to showcase really puts a premium on the BE teams to do well enough so that those games, if not set in stone, can feature their team. So, I'm hoping that Marquette is definitely going to be one of those teams showcased on CBS...AND they're not swapped out for a team with a higher ranking and better record. Likewise, if Marquette is NOT one of those teams on CBS, I hope they get swapped "in."
Quote from: mupanther on September 05, 2013, 08:31:59 PM
Leadoff with Doug Gottlieb
Ugh...we can't completely get rid of him, can we?
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on September 05, 2013, 09:55:19 PM
This deal however gives CBS the latitude to move competitive and desirable match ups (in case some planned matchups become duds) from CBS SN to their CBS channel, right?
Not really, since CBS has there games pick for that network timeslots that fit in with golf.
Is this an indication that Fox Sports1 has already given up?
Quote from: ecompt on September 06, 2013, 07:37:32 AM
Is this an indication that Fox Sports1 has already given up?
You're kidding, right? MU games the past few years were on both ESPN and CBS. Did that mean ESPN gave up?
Quote from: slack00 on September 06, 2013, 07:43:46 AM
You're kidding, right? MU games the past few years were on both ESPN and CBS. Did that mean ESPN gave up?
The counterargument to that is that last year ESPN had more inventory than they could hope to broadcast, while the Big East is the flagship product of a fledgling network.
I think before this annoucement everyone thought rights to some games would be sold. The expectation, however, was that it would be the surplus matchups (like DePaul/Seton Hall) that would wind up on networks like ESPN-U--not the marquee games that would do the best job of building an audience for Fox Sports.
Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2013, 08:05:32 PM
I honestly have no idea if this is good or bad. Hopefully someone can do some analysis on it. A few questions I have..
Isn't this a really big deal? Weren't we THE basketball conference on Fox? Like, the flagship?
And we've since been transferred? What does that imply amongst media companies?
Does CBS/CBSSports carry any other conferences? How are we going to compete with them for viewing, etc?
I also think this is a hindrance in terms of other shows. I feel as though with Fox Sports building a programming base, there could have been BEast specific bball shows during the season. Now, on CBS, will we get that?
Just about every major conference has crossover television coverage. Win win for all. Fox gets additional revenue to help defray the cost of their contract and the BE gets additional national coverage.
Quote from: mupanther on September 05, 2013, 08:31:59 PM
The AAC, Big East, A-10, Mtn. West, Conf USA & Patroit League Men's basketball is on this network!
Bucky would have a field day with this statement.
Quote from: ecompt on September 06, 2013, 07:37:32 AM
Is this an indication that Fox Sports1 has already given up?
Sure looks like it. Apparently the Big East will not be showcased. It is not a priority in any way for Fox1. UFC, boxing, and Soccer will remain the focus. Sending the Big East to CBSSN is just a way to re-coup costs from not getting a better deal from Cable providers
This is NOT a plus - it will LIMIT ACCESS to Big East basketball. This means LESS access to MU & Big East basketball. Most people do not have access to the plus Sports package.
Give me back ESPN for the Big East!!!!
Quote from: brandx on September 06, 2013, 09:39:13 AM
Sure looks like it. Apparently the Big East will not be showcased. It is not a priority in any way for Fox1. UFC, boxing, and Soccer will remain the focus. Sending the Big East to CBSSN is just a way to re-coup costs from not getting a better deal from Cable providers
This is NOT a plus - it will LIMIT ACCESS to Big East basketball. This means LESS access to MU & Big East basketball. Most people do not have access to the plus Sports package.
Give me back ESPN for the Big East!!!!
Agreed.
They also should've kept Syracuse and Louisville. Dumb move getting rid of those teams.
The Big East is going downhill, you guys!
Quote from: brandx on September 06, 2013, 09:39:13 AM
Sure looks like it. Apparently the Big East will not be showcased. It is not a priority in any way for Fox1. UFC, boxing, and Soccer will remain the focus. Sending the Big East to CBSSN is just a way to re-coup costs from not getting a better deal from Cable providers
This is NOT a plus - it will LIMIT ACCESS to Big East basketball. This means LESS access to MU & Big East basketball. Most people do not have access to the plus Sports package.
Give me back ESPN for the Big East!!!!
I have the basic Comcast sports package, which is dirt cheap, and this will be the first year that I'll get to watch almost every MU game aside from Grambling and Samford. I'm thrilled.
Quote from: brandx on September 06, 2013, 09:39:13 AM
Sure looks like it. Apparently the Big East will not be showcased. It is not a priority in any way for Fox1. UFC, boxing, and Soccer will remain the focus. Sending the Big East to CBSSN is just a way to re-coup costs from not getting a better deal from Cable providers
This is NOT a plus - it will LIMIT ACCESS to Big East basketball. This means LESS access to MU & Big East basketball. Most people do not have access to the plus Sports package.
Give me back ESPN for the Big East!!!!
They sold a few games to recoup some costs. That is not an indication that they have given up on the Big East. Everyone knew they were going to be some games sold off to other networks. Some had thought ESPN may buy some. Chicos would be the expert, but I believe this is standard operating procedure.
If you look at the games that were sold, they have little national value to Fox. For instance, two MU games were sold. At Depaul, and home against Depaul. That game was never going to get national attention. Better to sell it off to someone else if they are willing to buy it.
Relax, it is really not a big deal. ESPN didn't broadcast all of the Big East games in the past, some had to be watched on ESPN3, which not all people had. At least these games are being sold off to another broadcaster allowing potential non-internet based viewing of the games.
I do realize that this only affects a handful of MU conference games - not all of them - but it shows that maybe they aren't nearly as dedicated to the BE as we thought they might be.
Butler game is sold as well.
Quote from: brandx on September 06, 2013, 09:59:13 AM
I do realize that this only affects a handful of MU conference games - not all of them - but it shows that maybe they aren't nearly as dedicated to the BE as we I thought they might be.
Butler game is sold as well.
FIFY.
Quote from: brandx on September 06, 2013, 09:39:13 AM
Sure looks like it. Apparently the Big East will not be showcased. It is not a priority in any way for Fox1. UFC, boxing, and Soccer will remain the focus. Sending the Big East to CBSSN is just a way to re-coup costs from not getting a better deal from Cable providers
I would say the numbers don't add up by your statement.
FOX Sports 1 will air 108 regular-season games, and an additional 9 tournament games.
FOX Sports 2 will air 12 games. (To find the channel location for FOX Sports 1 and FOX Sports 2 on local distributors, use the channel locator at http://msn.foxsports.com/.)
CBS Sports Network will air 18 games, and 2 additional games will air on CBS Sports.
FOX Sports Network will air up to 18 games regionally. FOX Sports (FBC) will televise one game featuring BIG EAST teams.
This was likely in the plan all along and was part of the negotiations so it means no such thing.
Look at it this way...with some of the games now on CBS it gives that network incentive to cover/promote the league.....that is a good thing.
Quote from: brandx on September 06, 2013, 09:59:13 AM
I do realize that this only affects a handful of MU conference games - not all of them - but it shows that maybe they aren't nearly as dedicated to the BE as we thought they might be.
Butler game is sold as well.
Quote from: brandx on September 06, 2013, 09:39:13 AM
Sure looks like it. Apparently the Big East will not be showcased. It is not a priority in any way for Fox1. UFC, boxing, and Soccer will remain the focus. Sending the Big East to CBSSN is just a way to re-coup costs from not getting a better deal from Cable providers
This is NOT a plus - it will LIMIT ACCESS to Big East basketball. This means LESS access to MU & Big East basketball. Most people do not have access to the plus Sports package.
Give me back ESPN for the Big East!!!!
I guess people don't remember the halcyon days of LAST YEAR when some of Marquette's Big East games were shown on bumblef*ck channels like NESN and MSG network.
Jesus, people will find any reason to be chicken littles.
Quote from: brandx on September 06, 2013, 09:39:13 AM
Sure looks like it. Apparently the Big East will not be showcased. It is not a priority in any way for Fox1. UFC, boxing, and Soccer will remain the focus. Sending the Big East to CBSSN is just a way to re-coup costs from not getting a better deal from Cable providers
This is NOT a plus - it will LIMIT ACCESS to Big East basketball. This means LESS access to MU & Big East basketball. Most people do not have access to the plus Sports package.
Give me back ESPN for the Big East!!!!
This was talked about months ago as a possibility, I'm not sure why this is a surprise to anyone.
Quote from: Terror Skink on September 06, 2013, 11:14:08 AM
I guess people don't remember the halcyon days of LAST YEAR when some of Marquette's Big East games were shown on bumblef*ck channels like NESN and MSG network.
Jesus, people will find any reason to be chicken littles.
I definitely wouldn't classify those in that manner.....they are very important in Boston and greater Northeast and more importantly, NYC. Regional....yes, but it's not like being on Fox Sports Utah or Sunshine Network. Don't get me wrong, your point is well taken.
They definitely haven't given up on anything, not with the money they spent.
Though in talking to some of my ESPN counterparts yesterday, they are having a chuckle at FS1's ratings right now. I don't blame them, been a rough start thus far but as I reminded my Bristol boys, no one watched their stuff for a long time either and they were the only game in town.
Time and money.....we'll see how it goes.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 06, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
I definitely wouldn't classify those in that manner.....they are very important in Boston and greater Northeast and more importantly, NYC. Regional....yes, but it's not like being on Fox Sports Utah or Sunshine Network. Don't get me wrong, your point is well taken.
OK..."bumblef*ck" isn't a word I should have used. But ESPN sold off its BE rights to smaller networks, just like Fox is doing. (And I am sure other networks do all the time. I mean, isn't that why the BTN exists in the first place???)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 06, 2013, 11:40:57 AM
They definitely haven't given up on anything, not with the money they spent.
Though in talking to some of my ESPN counterparts yesterday, they are having a chuckle at FS1's ratings right now. I don't blame them, been a rough start thus far but as I reminded my Bristol boys, no one watched their stuff for a long time either and they were the only game in town.
Time and money.....we'll see how it goes.
It would be nice if they wouldn't put on an even dumber version of Sports Center. I know I'm not their target audience, but c'mon... I don't care about what Donovan McNabb thinks about anything...much less basketball.
Quote from: MuMark on September 06, 2013, 11:09:30 AM
This was likely in the plan all along and was part of the negotiations so it means no such thing.
Look at it this way...with some of the games now on CBS it gives that network incentive to cover/promote the league.....that is a good thing.
Well said. Big East basketball on more channels can only be a good thing for the league
Quote from: Terror Skink on September 06, 2013, 11:41:45 AM
OK..."bumblef*ck" isn't a word I should have used.
You can still get bumblef*ck channels even if you don't live in bumblef*ck... so I thought the choice of words was acceptable. But I live in bumblef*ck and I still don't watch bumblef*ck channels, so what do I know.
Quote from: forgetful on September 06, 2013, 09:59:06 AM
Relax, it is really not a big deal. ESPN didn't broadcast all of the Big East games in the past, some had to be watched on ESPN3, which not all people had. At least these games are being sold off to another broadcaster allowing potential non-internet based viewing of the games.
Has there been any updates recently on when FS1 will have a streaming presence on the internet? Also, for the games on CBSSN, do we know if they will also stream those on the internet (assuming, of course, they have the streaming up and running by that time)? Any information on that out there? Chicos?
Quote from: brandx on September 06, 2013, 09:59:13 AM
I do realize that this only affects a handful of MU conference games - not all of them - but it shows that maybe they aren't nearly as dedicated to the BE as we thought they might be.
Butler game is sold as well.
We have 3 games on CBSSN:
1/4 - MU vs. DePaul at 1:00 - Fox1 has St. Johns at Georgetown instead. This is clearly a bigger game.
1/18 - MU at Butler at 1:00 - Fox1 has Creighton at Providence instead. We'd all say the MU game is bigger, but it's probably a toss-up.
2/22 - MU at DePaul at 5:00 - the Fox1 schedule looks open that night, so maybe it's UFC
They can only show one game at a time. Fox2 doesn't have HD on TWC in MKE, so we might be better off on CBSSN.
Here's our break-down of conference games:
CBS - 1
Fox1 - 13
CBSSN - 3
FSN - 1
Here's Georgetown's:
CBS - 1
Fox1 - 15
CBBSN - 2
Here's DePaul's:
Fox1 - 9
CBSSN - 5
FSN - 4
Quote from: brandx on September 06, 2013, 09:59:13 AM
I do realize that this only affects a handful of MU conference games - not all of them - but it shows that maybe they aren't nearly as dedicated to the BE as we thought they might be.
Butler game is sold as well.
Forgot about the Butler game. You are correct and I wanted to see that one. But this was expected as I and others have noted. It is also actually an improvement as far as availability compared to ESPN.
That is provided that FS1 gets the coverage it had hoped for.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 06, 2013, 11:40:57 AM
They definitely haven't given up on anything, not with the money they spent.
Though in talking to some of my ESPN counterparts yesterday, they are having a chuckle at FS1's ratings right now. I don't blame them, been a rough start thus far but as I reminded my Bristol boys, no one watched their stuff for a long time either and they were the only game in town.
Time and money.....we'll see how it goes.
Two of the three games on Saturday, FS1 had was FCS vs FBS schools. It's hard when Fox shares the Big 12 & Pac-12 with ESPN. FS1, so far isn't getting the top games.
Many I hear don't know if they have the channel or care to look for it. It just will take time and word of mouth.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on September 06, 2013, 02:27:54 PM
Has there been any updates recently on when FS1 will have a streaming presence on the internet? Also, for the games on CBSSN, do we know if they will also stream those on the internet (assuming, of course, they have the streaming up and running by that time)? Any information on that out there? Chicos?
Fox Sports Go is the name of the app. Not yet released. At the Fox conference I went to this Summer, it was to be launched when the channel launched, but sounds like they are still tinkering with it.
Here's an article fairly recent http://www.phonearena.com/news/App-for-new-Fox-Sports-1-network-coming-soon-with-live-streaming-video-scores-and-more_id46472
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2013/08/16/fox-sports-go-android-and-ios-app-will-be-delayed/
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 06, 2013, 11:15:44 PM
Fox Sports Go is the name of the app. Not yet released. At the Fox conference I went to this Summer, it was to be launched when the channel launched, but sounds like they are still tinkering with it.
Here's an article fairly recent http://www.phonearena.com/news/App-for-new-Fox-Sports-1-network-coming-soon-with-live-streaming-video-scores-and-more_id46472
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2013/08/16/fox-sports-go-android-and-ios-app-will-be-delayed/
So, is this going to be one of those deals where you have to be a cable subscriber with access to the channel on your TV to actually be able to use the app or watch live video? Like Watch ESPN?
We will know FS1 has thrown in the towel if they bring in Al Gore.
Quote from: Litehouse on September 07, 2013, 08:15:39 AM
So, is this going to be one of those deals where you have to be a cable subscriber with access to the channel on your TV to actually be able to use the app or watch live video? Like Watch ESPN?
Absolutely.
It's called authentication.
If you just gave it away for free, no one would subscribe to the channel and Fox wouldn't get their $$$$$$$$$