Ben Lammers narrows list
Ben Lammers a 6'10 center out of Alamo Heights HS in San Antonio, Tx. has lined up and started taking his official visits.
First up was Marquette, which Lammers took last weekend. Lammers told me, "It was really good, I really liked how they are a basketball first school and I could see myself going there." The Golden Eagles have two commitments in the '14 class already with wing Malek Harris and shooting guard Sandy Cohen already in the fold.
Next up, this weekend, is Georgia Tech for Lammers. Looking forward to his visit, Lammers says, "(going into the visit) I am curious what my role will be and how they are going to make me a better player." The Yellow Jackets have one commitment with guard Tadric Jackson already in the fold.
Lammers with take his last two official visits to Miami on September 13 and Stanford September 27. The Hurricanes hold two commitments from point guard Jaquan Newton and wing James Palmer and the Cardinal have yet to gain any commitments.
Also Lammers still has the door open to Kansas St and St Louis, but has yet to set visits to either.
good to hear, that is getting to be an impressive list of schools with interest
Here's hoping he chooses Marquette mostly for selfish reasons, but there is also the fact that Buzz takes good players and makes them great. Buzz has also assembled a pretty nice complement of guards to work with a big man such as Lammers. There's also the fact that at a basketball-first school like Marquette he will be the biggest celebrity on campus. Can't hurt our chances.
Of the schools specifically mentioned I'd say we're the highest profile. Ben would be a nice addition.
I'm still bullish on Diamond Stone and would like to have someone he can practice against.
Stanford, huh? Well, I guess every kid needs a safety school!
Quote from: MU82 on September 04, 2013, 09:01:26 AM
Stanford, huh? Well, I guess every kid needs a safety school!
Nothing wrong with Stanford if you also value an education.
Quote from: moomoo on September 04, 2013, 07:52:31 AM
Ben Lammers narrows list
Ben Lammers a 6'10 center out of Alamo Heights HS in San Antonio, Tx. has lined up and started taking his official visits.
First up was Marquette, which Lammers took last weekend. Lammers told me, "It was really good, I really liked how they are a basketball first school and I could see myself going there." The Golden Eagles have two commitments in the '14 class already with wing Malek Harris and shooting guard Sandy Cohen already in the fold.
Next up, this weekend, is Georgia Tech for Lammers. Looking forward to his visit, Lammers says, "(going into the visit) I am curious what my role will be and how they are going to make me a better player."
I know these are standard things for a guy to be thinking about when choosing a school/team/coach, but I can't help but wonder if talking to Buzz has put that in the forefront of his mind.
All he has to say is "look at the roster" MU have no height, so PT is available!
Quote from: willie warrior on September 04, 2013, 09:15:05 AM
Nothing wrong with Stanford if you also value an education.
Stanford is one of the most difficult schools in the country to get into. The campus is beautiful. Great location to go to school.
Quote from: moomoo on September 04, 2013, 07:52:31 AM
Ben Lammers narrows list
Ben Lammers a 6'10 center out of Alamo Heights HS in San Antonio, Tx. has lined up and started taking his official visits.
Does he have 2 eyes?
Quote from: 79Warrior on September 04, 2013, 10:42:57 AM
Stanford is one of the most difficult schools in the country to get into. The campus is beautiful. Great location to go to school.
Hard to beat the weather and campus, this would be the toughest competition, but most of the schools he is looking at have nice climates. Should be interesting.
I like MU's chances. Highest profile of his schools, immediate playing time available, and surrounded by great talent. I'm feeling good about this one.
Quote from: BRMU23 on September 04, 2013, 10:45:33 AM
Does he have 2 eyes?
And, can he get 6 years of eligibility.
Quote from: willie warrior on September 04, 2013, 09:15:05 AM
Nothing wrong with Stanford if you also value an education.
Quote from: 79Warrior on September 04, 2013, 10:42:57 AM
Stanford is one of the most difficult schools in the country to get into. The campus is beautiful. Great location to go to school.
I believe that that was MU82's point.
Quote from: MU82 on September 04, 2013, 09:01:26 AM
Stanford, huh? Well, I guess every kid needs a safety school!
Isn't Stanford that school where kids go if they can't get into Marquette?
Has a recruit ever told the media that an official visit sucked heine?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 04, 2013, 01:11:08 PM
Has a recruit ever told the media that an official visit sucked heine?
Not in those words, but they have eliminated schools from consideration after the visit.
I have a good feeling about this recruit. Good size, good attitude, and is on the upswing at the right time. I could see him getting solid playing time as a freshman (probably comes off the bench for McKay) and then possibly starting as a sophomore.
Come on Blammers, we got prestige, talent, and playing time. What's not to love? Sign that dotted line!
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 04, 2013, 10:42:31 AM
All he has to say is "look at the roster" MU have no height, so PT is available!
Are BC Hoopster and willie Warrior one and the same? ?-(
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 04, 2013, 01:24:45 PM
I have a good feeling about this recruit. Good size, good attitude, and is on the upswing at the right time. I could see him getting solid playing time as a freshman (probably comes off the bench for McKay) and then possibly starting as a sophomore.
Come on Blammers, we got prestige, talent, and playing time. What's not to love? Sign that dotted line!
I'm going to be praying he won't be starting because we'll have our diamond
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 04, 2013, 01:11:08 PM
Has a recruit ever told the media that an official visit sucked heine?
Mike Shaw pretty much did this after his MU visit
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on September 04, 2013, 02:05:17 PM
I'm going to be praying he won't be starting because we'll have our diamond
I'm hoping so too. That's why I said possibly. If we do grab Stone, then Lammers will start his junior year after Stone will (most likely) go pro.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 04, 2013, 03:29:05 PM
I'm hoping so too. That's why I said possibly. If we do grab Stone, then Lammers will start his junior year after Stone will (most likely) go pro.
Let's not get that far out over the handlebars.
Basketball school first = MU
Academics school first = Stanford
Choices, choices........Nice option for the young fella.
lmao. If I had a choice between Stanford and MU, it wouldn't even be close.
Don't get me wrong, but playing out in the beautiful weather, at a top flight school... and California girls everywhere?
No question I'd be at Stanford.
And I LOVE Marquette.
Quote from: Hold the Mayo on September 04, 2013, 03:08:36 PM
Mike Shaw pretty much did this after his MU visit
Someone said he looked "disinterested" at a game (Midnight Madness?) during his visit, Good thing. He's played like he's disinterested ever since.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 04, 2013, 01:24:45 PM
I have a good feeling about this recruit. Good size, good attitude, and is on the upswing at the right time. I could see him getting solid playing time as a freshman (probably comes off the bench for McKay) and then possibly starting as a sophomore.
Come on Blammers, we got prestige, talent, and playing time. What's not to love? Sign that dotted line!
Taylor would probably play center over McKay.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on September 05, 2013, 08:13:05 AM
lmao. If I had a choice between Stanford and MU, it wouldn't even be close.
Don't get me wrong, but playing out in the beautiful weather, at a top flight school... and California girls everywhere?
No question I'd be at Stanford.
And I LOVE Marquette.
Yo
Quote from: bilsu on September 05, 2013, 08:31:32 AM
Taylor would probably play center over McKay.
McKay's got two inches on Taylor. Taylor is bigger but I would rather have height than girth at the 5.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 05, 2013, 01:01:59 PM
McKay's got two inches on Taylor. Taylor is bigger but I would rather have height than girth at the 5.
Taylor is reported to have grown over the summer.
Johnson grew too.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 05, 2013, 01:01:59 PM
McKay's got two inches on Taylor. Taylor is bigger but I would rather have height than girth at the 5.
According to team roster on GOMARQUETTE
McKay is 6-8 210
Taylor is 6-7 235
Gardner is 6-8 290
Taylor reportedly has grown to 6-9. I am not sure about that, but last summer in pro am both Taylor and Gardner according to my eyesight were the same height.
This year's pro am according to my eyesight there is no question that McKay is taller than Gardner.
I suspect that Gardner's height is somewhat over stated.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 05, 2013, 02:04:45 PM
Johnson grew too.
At your old ass age? Impressive.
Viagra works huh?
Quote from: nyg on September 05, 2013, 06:47:44 AM
Basketball school first = MU
Academics school first = Stanford
Choices, choices........Nice option for the young fella.
This.
Sadly, Stanford basketball hasn't been the same since Montgomery left.
Dawkins, a great asst at Duke, is struggling to put out a competitive team despite the academic allure, great weather, fervent fan base, and deep alum pockets.
It doesn't look good for him because Amaker is working wonders at Harvard (just as hard to get into, no BKB schollies) and the losing is taking a toll.
Quote from: bilsu on September 05, 2013, 02:22:50 PM
According to team roster on GOMARQUETTE
McKay is 6-8 210
Taylor is 6-7 235
Gardner is 6-8 290
Taylor reportedly has grown to 6-9. I am not sure about that, but last summer in pro am both Taylor and Gardner according to my eyesight were the same height.
This year's pro am according to my eyesight there is no question that McKay is taller than Gardner.
I suspect that Gardner's height is somewhat over stated.
And Taylor's is understated.
Both with good reason I suspect.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on September 05, 2013, 10:03:12 PM
This.
Sadly, Stanford basketball hasn't been the same since Montgomery left.
Dawkins, a great asst at Duke, is struggling to put out a competitive team despite the academic allure, great weather, fervent fan base, and deep alum pockets.
It doesn't look good for him because Amaker is working wonders at Harvard (just as hard to get into, no BKB schollies) and the losing is taking a toll.
The "no athletic scholarships" for Ivy League schools is as overrated as can possibly be. Every student that attends an Ivy League school has a tuition based on his/her family's income. They make it so that everyone who is accepted can pay for their education. For sports that have only partial scholarships (men's volleyball, for example), this becomes even more attractive to student athletes than receiving partial scholarships to other schools. Unless the family's income is some incredibly high number (I believe I heard $250,000), you're not going to pay a substantial amount for tuition at an Ivy League school. And if you do have to pay that substantial amount, it means your family isn't hurting for money, so you should have no trouble finding a way to pay for it.
Quote from: bilsu on September 05, 2013, 02:22:50 PM
According to team roster on GOMARQUETTE
McKay is 6-8 210
Taylor is 6-7 235
Gardner is 6-8 290
Taylor reportedly has grown to 6-9. I am not sure about that, but last summer in pro am both Taylor and Gardner according to my eyesight were the same height.
This year's pro am according to my eyesight there is no question that McKay is taller than Gardner.
I suspect that Gardner's height is somewhat over stated.
What I know is, when I've seen the two next to each other, McKay looks about two inches taller. It's possible Steve grew some.
I'm really high on McKay. Maybe I'm too hyped because of our past success with JUCOs, but I think he will be our best newcomer next year. I think he starts before too long.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 05, 2013, 11:34:24 PM
What I know is, when I've seen the two next to each other, McKay looks about two inches taller. It's possible Steve grew some.
I'm really high on McKay. Maybe I'm too hyped because of our past success with JUCOs, but I think he will be our best newcomer next year. I think he starts before too long.
Where do you measure? Do you measure by the shoulders as some do or by the top of the head?
If a guy has a flat head or slouching shoulders of tall shaped head and high shoulders as does Jameel McKay then he might seem taller so height is crazy like that.
Then you have the in shoes and out of shoes aspect as well.
To me it is posture too.
Jamil looks like the tallest guy on the team that way so IDK As a rule..I go by how tall they play not by actual height.
Quote from: nyg on September 05, 2013, 06:47:44 AM
Basketball school first = MU
Academics school first, Football school second = Stanford
Choices, choices........Nice option for the young fella.
and i'm not sure i choose stanford if i want to cash a check playing professional basketball. certainly not questioning any kid who realizes he can use basketball to get a stanford education, but also not questioning a kid who feels he needs to play for a coach that will best develop his talents.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on September 05, 2013, 08:13:05 AM
lmao. If I had a choice between Stanford and MU, it wouldn't even be close.
Don't get me wrong, but playing out in the beautiful weather, at a top flight school... and California girls everywhere?
No question I'd be at Stanford.
And I LOVE Marquette.
Are you suggesting California girls are better looking than Cheesehead women? C'mon now!!!!!!
Quote from: dgies9156 on September 06, 2013, 07:26:25 AM
Are you suggesting California girls are better looking than Cheesehead women? C'mon now!!!!!!
California girls at age 40 are all sun damaged and look 50.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on September 06, 2013, 06:01:31 AM
Where do you measure? Do you measure by the shoulders as some do or by the top of the head?
If a guy has a flat head or slouching shoulders of tall shaped head and high shoulders as does Jameel McKay then he might seem taller so height is crazy like that.
Then you have the in shoes and out of shoes aspect as well.
To me it is posture too.
Jamil looks like the tallest guy on the team that way so IDK As a rule..I go by how tall they play not by actual height.
I look at the top of their head when they are next to each other. I suppose it is possible that Gardner slouches somewhat instead of standing tall all the time, thus making him look shorter than he is.
Quote from: bilsu on September 06, 2013, 08:16:36 AM
California girls at age 40 are all sun damaged and look 50.
50 is the new 40 in Cali women
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 05, 2013, 11:34:24 PM
What I know is, when I've seen the two next to each other, McKay looks about two inches taller. It's possible Steve grew some.
I'm really high on McKay. Maybe I'm too hyped because of our past success with JUCOs, but I think he will be our best newcomer next year. I think he starts before too long.
My guess is that McKay will look good in spots, but will also be inconsistent as he learns to play at the D1 level. That's how I would describe Jae and DJO's first year. Sometimes they looked great... sometimes they looked pretty average (or worse).
He'll get a chance to contribute... especially if he can play defense. Buzz loves to mix and match on defense when guys are versatile.
I don't think we'll see him start... but maybe I'm just too high on the returning players.
Crean made Stanford's Lopez dudes millions and spots in the Association.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on September 06, 2013, 09:57:36 AM
My guess is that McKay will look good in spots, but will also be inconsistent as he learns to play at the D1 level. That's how I would describe Jae and DJO's first year. Sometimes they looked great... sometimes they looked pretty average (or worse).
He'll get a chance to contribute... especially if he can play defense. Buzz loves to mix and match on defense when guys are versatile.
I don't think we'll see him start... but maybe I'm just too high on the returning players.
I think you are right as I think Jamil Wilson is more comfortable at the 2, likes playing against average athletics vs. 3's whom are much more athletic. I can see Buzz throwing a zone
D with Otule, Gardner and McKay, with Mayo and Duane and you are really long. That front lines reminds me of Bo, Whitehead and Toone.
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 06, 2013, 10:17:28 AM
I think you are right as I think Jamil Wilson is more comfortable at the 2, likes playing against average athletics vs. 3's whom are much more athletic. I can see Buzz throwing a zone
D with Otule, Gardner and McKay, with Mayo and Duane and you are really long. That front lines reminds me of Bo, Whitehead and Toone.
BC I like Otule Gardner and McKay, CO is one of the finest young men you could ever meet...but to say they remind you of Bo, Whitehead and Toone is a little off, unless you are looking at height only. I would walk into any alley with those three cats and not worry once who was waiting for us. Whitehead and Toone especially had a nasty disposition on the court and sometimes off the court too.
Go Warriors..
Quote from: bilsu on September 06, 2013, 08:16:36 AM
California girls at age 40 are all sun damaged and look 50.
Not my California bride
Quote from: wadesworld on September 05, 2013, 10:45:08 PM
The "no athletic scholarships" for Ivy League schools is as overrated as can possibly be. Every student that attends an Ivy League school has a tuition based on his/her family's income.
I read an article about how Amaker is getting players in like Zena Edowamsam that may not be on scholarship but won't pay a dime at Harvard. For the moment, the rest of the Ivy doesn't stand a chance.
Quote from: BigDaddy84 on September 06, 2013, 12:38:57 PM
BC I like Otule Gardner and McKay, CO is one of the finest young men you could ever meet...but to say they remind you of Bo, Whitehead and Toone is a little off, unless you are looking at height only. I would walk into any alley with those three cats and not worry once who was waiting for us. Whitehead and Toone especially had a nasty disposition on the court and sometimes off the court too.
Go Warriors..
I was just looking at height, Whitehead, Toone and Ellis were pros, not sure if any of this years group makes the pros, maybe Gardner and I have not seen McKay so I have no idea if
he has pro ability. He will have to add 30 lbs. of muscle and be able to shot the 3. Reading the boards, he plays more like Dennis Rodman. Both groups discussed have size, O'Tule and
Whitehead, about the same, Toone a little taller (much different type of player than Gardner), and Bo and McKay about the same in height. Bo was a true leader that took MU to 2 out
of 4 years to the final 4. He was the glue. Defensively, the 3 played zone against NC, and won that way. Toone was not a great defender.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on September 06, 2013, 06:01:31 AM
Where do you measure? Do you measure by the shoulders as some do or by the top of the head?
If a guy has a flat head or slouching shoulders of tall shaped head and high shoulders as does Jameel McKay then he might seem taller so height is crazy like that.
Then you have the in shoes and out of shoes aspect as well.
To me it is posture too.
Jamil looks like the tallest guy on the team that way so IDK As a rule..I go by how tall they play not by actual height.
Um. height is height. It's an objective statistic from the ground to the tallest point of their head. There is no other way to measure height. Nothing to do with shoulders, flat/tall shaped head, posture, or "looks like".
Holy sheet did this thread go sideways. How do YOU measure people???
Height matters. Just ask Judge Smails and Ty Webb.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 06, 2013, 10:06:08 AM
Crean made Stanford's Lopez dudes millions and spots in the Association.
Buzz Williams was on that staff
As a yes man.
Quote from: jesmu84 on September 06, 2013, 06:02:24 PM
Um. height is height. It's an objective statistic from the ground to the tallest point of their head. There is no other way to measure height. Nothing to do with shoulders, flat/tall shaped head, posture, or "looks like".
Absolutely correct, with one minor correction. In the NCAA height is apparently reported as from the ground to the tallest point on their head + 2 inches.
Both of those kids had pro futures before Crean coached against them.
Come on....Crean has nothing to do with how much they are making now...
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 07, 2013, 01:49:09 PM
Buzz Williams was on that staff
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 07, 2013, 01:49:51 PM
As a yes man.
Buzz was responsible for the scout vs Kentucky. Buckley did the scout vs Stanford, if I recall. I don't see Buzz as a yes man.
Brook Lopez is pretty damn good, regardless of his game against us where he was giant amongst boys. He probably should have scored more than 30 going up against Ousmane and Burke.
Robin on the other hand...