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Title: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: lessthannick11 on July 12, 2013, 10:36:50 AM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228851/Raptors-Agree-To-Deal-With-Dwight-Buycks

Took the long road but made it to the league as well
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 12, 2013, 10:39:12 AM
Add  him to the list of MU alums that have had NBA contracts (technically NBA players!)
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Galway Eagle on July 12, 2013, 10:40:17 AM
Truly happy for him, just wish he would've shown all this sudden talent when he was here.  Not saying we would've beaten UNC but maybe could've not been embarrassed or better yet maybe would've beaten Washington his first year.  

Also with Novak and Buycks on the Raptos I can't believe I have to start cheering for them...
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Aughnanure on July 12, 2013, 10:45:50 AM
Can you believe that 2011 team had 4 NBA players on it (potentially 5 with DJO or Vander)?
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: GGGG on July 12, 2013, 10:46:02 AM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 12, 2013, 10:40:17 AM
Truly happy for him, just wish he would've shown all this sudden talent when he was here.  


It wasn't "sudden talent."  It was hard work...and maybe a little maturity.  
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Galway Eagle on July 12, 2013, 10:47:27 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 12, 2013, 10:46:02 AM

It wasn't "sudden talent."  It was hard work...and maybe a little maturity.  

Call it what you want I just wish he would've had it when he was here. 
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: NersEllenson on July 12, 2013, 10:48:35 AM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 12, 2013, 10:40:17 AM
Truly happy for him, just wish he would've shown all this sudden talent when he was here.  Not saying we would've beaten UNC but maybe could've not been embarrassed or better yet maybe would've beaten Washington his first year.  

Buycks showed talent at MU - and was very highly regarded at coming in.  Think he was hurt a little by playing the 1 as a senior.  Showed a lot of flashes but never great consistency.  You could see though, that he had a great rhythm about his game - played with good tempo - much more under control than DJO...better body lean, better shake and bake, better ability to create seperation/space for pull up midrange jumpers.  Lots of tools there for Dwight.

Very happy for him!  Great persistence and hard work paid off.

Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Galway Eagle on July 12, 2013, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on July 12, 2013, 10:45:50 AM
Can you believe that 2011 team had 3 NBA players on it (potentially 4 with DJO or Vander)?

DJO was already an NBA player.  Moreso than Mcneal or Buycks are so far http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6596/darius-johnson-odom
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: BubbaWilliams on July 12, 2013, 10:50:05 AM
Take that Bucky
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: CAGASS24 on July 12, 2013, 10:50:08 AM
more amazingly; add him to the JUCO to NBA Buzz Williams list.  Unbelievable!!! 

Great work Dwight.  What amazed me most about him is that he always made the most difficult shots look the easiest!  I remember 5 or more shots he hit with Marquette, usually at  the end of the clock, that were straight insanity.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Aughnanure on July 12, 2013, 10:51:09 AM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 12, 2013, 10:49:11 AM
DJO was already an NBA player.  Moreso than Mcneal or Buycks are so far http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6596/darius-johnson-odom

Fixed. had 4 at first then forgot how much DJO got playing time and didn't want to assume.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Aughnanure on July 12, 2013, 10:51:21 AM
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Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Galway Eagle on July 12, 2013, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: Ners on July 12, 2013, 10:48:35 AM
Buycks showed talent at MU - and was very highly regarded at coming in.  Think he was hurt a little by playing the 1 as a senior.  Showed a lot of flashes but never great consistency.  You could see though, that he had a great rhythm about his game - played with good tempo - much more under control than DJO...better body lean, better shake and bake, better ability to create seperation/space for pull up midrange jumpers.  Lots of tools there for Dwight.

Very happy for him!  Great persistence and hard work paid off.



I know he was highly regarded, and once again consistency, maturity whatever you want to call it I wish it was there so there'd be more than the essentially 9pts, 3ast, 3reb a game than he gave us. (admittedly better stats than I remember from him)
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: tower912 on July 12, 2013, 10:53:19 AM
Congrats to Buycks!   He was good at MU, but clearly has put in a ton of work since he left.   He gets my respect for all of the different positions he had to guard while part of one of the shortest NCAA tourney teams in modern times.  
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Brewtown Andy on July 12, 2013, 10:56:24 AM
Quote from: Ners on July 12, 2013, 10:48:35 AM
Buycks showed talent at MU - and was very highly regarded at coming in.  Think he was hurt a little by playing the 1 as a senior.  Showed a lot of flashes but never great consistency.  You could see though, that he had a great rhythm about his game - played with good tempo - much more under control than DJO...better body lean, better shake and bake, better ability to create seperation/space for pull up midrange jumpers.  Lots of tools there for Dwight.

Very happy for him!  Great persistence and hard work paid off.

Other than the part where the Raptors are signing him to play point guard.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: GGGG on July 12, 2013, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 12, 2013, 10:52:40 AM
I know he was highly regarded, and once again consistency, maturity whatever you want to call it I wish it was there so there'd be more than the essentially 9pts, 3ast, 3reb a game than he gave us. (admittedly better stats than I remember from him)


WTF?  Seriously Ners hit it on the head.  He wasn't a PG coming into MU, was forced to play it on a team that got to the S16, and once he graduated he worked at becoming better at the position.  It doesn't reflect poorly on what he was when he was here...you make it sound like he was loafing around and not working hard.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: MerrittsMustache on July 12, 2013, 10:59:03 AM
Ujiri creating Marquette North (of the border) with the additions of Novak and Buycks this offseason. I assume he'll take Otule in the lottery next season!

Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 12, 2013, 11:01:41 AM
Quote from: Ners on July 12, 2013, 10:48:35 AM
Buycks showed talent at MU - and was very highly regarded at coming in.  Think he was hurt a little by playing the 1 as a senior.  Showed a lot of flashes but never great consistency.  You could see though, that he had a great rhythm about his game - played with good tempo - much more under control than DJO...better body lean, better shake and bake, better ability to create seperation/space for pull up midrange jumpers.  Lots of tools there for Dwight.

Very happy for him!  Great persistence and hard work paid off.



nailed it.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: MerrittsMustache on July 12, 2013, 11:03:07 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 12, 2013, 10:58:44 AM

WTF?  Seriously Ners hit it on the head.  He wasn't a PG coming into MU, was forced to play it on a team that got to the S16, and once he graduated he worked at becoming better at the position.  It doesn't reflect poorly on what he was when he was here...you make it sound like he was loafing around and not working hard.

Wasn't Buycks headed to Iowa State out of HS but didn't qualify? He was very much on the high major radar. He just needed to grow up a little bit.

Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Galway Eagle on July 12, 2013, 11:05:50 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 12, 2013, 10:58:44 AM

WTF?  Seriously Ners hit it on the head.  He wasn't a PG coming into MU, was forced to play it on a team that got to the S16, and once he graduated he worked at becoming better at the position.  It doesn't reflect poorly on what he was when he was here...you make it sound like he was loafing around and not working hard.

I'm sorry you're reading it like that and getting upset. 
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: BubbaWilliams on July 12, 2013, 11:06:22 AM
Buzz doesn't need to go to the NBA, he's got a roster full of their players!
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: swoopem on July 12, 2013, 11:10:35 AM
From the playgrounds of Milwaukee's north side, to JUCO in Iowa, to the best school in the Big East, and now to the Association....well done Mr. Buycks, well done.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: GGGG on July 12, 2013, 11:10:46 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 12, 2013, 11:03:07 AM
Wasn't Buycks headed to Iowa State out of HS but didn't qualify? He was very much on the high major radar. He just needed to grow up a little bit.


He didn't qualify because of a f*ck up at his high school.  My recollection was that he was fully qualified with regards to ACT, but didn't take the correct number of core classes for NCAA eligibility because of poor counselling.  
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Sunbelt15 on July 12, 2013, 11:17:29 AM
Easy pick! He was ballin in summer league.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Aughnanure on July 12, 2013, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: BRMU23 on July 12, 2013, 11:06:22 AM
Buzz doesn't need to go to the NBA, he's got a roster full of their players!

It really is amazing. If Vander makes it (or Jamil, though he was sitting out technically) that team could've put together a starting five of all NBA players. Makes the Sweet 16 look even a tad disappointing.

G: Buycks
G: DJO or Vander
F: Butler
F: Crowder
F: Wilson
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: teamdee on July 12, 2013, 11:20:10 AM
Will "Ride my Buycks" please post
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: chapman on July 12, 2013, 11:21:56 AM
A multi-year deal too?  Wow, congrats to Dwight!
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Steve Buscemi on July 12, 2013, 11:22:59 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on July 12, 2013, 11:19:14 AM
It really is amazing. If Vander makes it (or Jamil, though he was sitting out technically) that team could've put together a starting five of all NBA players. Makes the Sweet 16 look even a tad disappointing

FIRE BUZZ
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: nyg on July 12, 2013, 11:23:41 AM
Not a contract expert, but I presume this means he gets some guaranteed money, but not necessarily a roster spot.  He could be sent to NBDL, just as DJO last year.  Don't know how these contracts work.

Hard work by Dwight paid off for him and MU should be proud also.  
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Aughnanure on July 12, 2013, 11:27:00 AM
Quote from: Steve Buscemi on July 12, 2013, 11:22:59 AM
FIRE BUZZ

Haha, not what I meant. But when you start looking back years later on the teams that go deep in the tourney, they usually have 2, 3 or more NBA-calibur players. We had 4/5! Though Van was a frosh. 
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 12, 2013, 10:39:12 AM
Add  him to the list of MU alums that have had NBA contracts (technically NBA players!)

Actually it's on a NBA roster at the start of a season when you are considered a NBA player per the NBA...but don't tell Lenny.   ;)


Congrats to Dwight, hopefully he can be on one of those rosters and earn a paycheck.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on July 12, 2013, 11:19:14 AM
It really is amazing. If Vander makes it (or Jamil, though he was sitting out technically) that team could've put together a starting five of all NBA players. Makes the Sweet 16 look even a tad disappointing.

G: Buycks
G: DJO or Vander
F: Butler
F: Crowder
F: Wilson

Shhhh.....all depends who the HC is to bring this up.   :D   And believe me, it would have been brought up in spades.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Nukem2 on July 12, 2013, 11:36:43 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 12, 2013, 11:10:46 AM

He didn't qualify because of a f*ck up at his high school.  My recollection was that he was fully qualified with regards to ACT, but didn't take the correct number of core classes for NCAA eligibility because of poor counselling.  
Yep.  He was going to go to Bradley, but his academic counselor at Bay View screwed up.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Aughnanure on July 12, 2013, 11:36:52 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
Shhhh.....all depends who the HC is to bring this up.   :D   And believe me, it would have been brought up in spades.

If Crean could do that with 4 JUCOs I'd agree with your point ;D. I get it, he's been a little unfairly criticized (emphasis on a little).

None of these guys were not that highly ranked, and the ones that were haven't made the NBA yet. I think it speaks more to Buzz's ability to develop players.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: frozena pizza on July 12, 2013, 11:40:32 AM
This is great news.  Congrats to Dwight.

Fortunately my company is HQ'd in Toronto so I will definitely catch a Raptors game next time I am there to see Buycks and Novak.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: MUCam on July 12, 2013, 11:41:30 AM
Love to see hard work and dedication result in attainment of a goal. It is fantastic. It really is easy to root for those former Marquette players who are grinding it out while chasing their dreams.

Good on ya, Dwight.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 12, 2013, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
Shhhh.....all depends who the HC is to bring this up.   :D   And believe me, it would have been brought up in spades.

Your logic:

1. Someone praised Buzz
2. Must compare Buzz to Crean, in a snarky way if possible and use a smiley face.

What the hell, man.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: MUCam on July 12, 2013, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 12, 2013, 11:43:00 AM
Your logic:

1. Someone praised Buzz
2. Must compare Buzz to Crean, in a snarky way if possible and use a smiley face.

What the hell, man.

Pretty sad. Agreed.

I wish the "ignore" function would also eliminate quoted language.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Lennys Tap on July 12, 2013, 11:49:14 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 12, 2013, 10:46:02 AM

It wasn't "sudden talent."  It was hard work...and maybe a little maturity.  

Throw a good pitch, throw a good pitch.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Knight Commission on July 12, 2013, 12:01:28 PM
Why is Dom James not entering the NBA discussion?
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: MerrittsMustache on July 12, 2013, 12:03:34 PM
Quote from: Knight Commission on July 12, 2013, 12:01:28 PM
Why is Dom James not entering the NBA discussion?

Because he's 5'11" and will turn 27 before the season starts...among other things.

Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: damuts222 on July 12, 2013, 12:06:25 PM
QuoteWhy is Dom James not entering the NBA discussion?

He can't shoot.  His free throw pct was attrocious.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on July 12, 2013, 12:07:48 PM
Hard work pays off! Congrats to Dwight!
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: flash on July 12, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
Congratulations to Dwight. I cannot believe he got an NBA contract after how he was at MU.  I never saw this coming. I'm super happy for him and I wish him the best.  Add him to the list of Marquette NBA players.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Steve Buscemi on July 12, 2013, 12:11:19 PM
Quote from: teamdee on July 12, 2013, 11:20:10 AM
Will "Ride my Buycks" please post

Don't you mean Nomorebuycks?
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: BubbaWilliams on July 12, 2013, 12:24:19 PM
Quote from: Knight Commission on July 12, 2013, 12:01:28 PM
Why is Dom James not entering the NBA discussion?
He's not that good.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Lennys Tap on July 12, 2013, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: damuts222 on July 12, 2013, 12:06:25 PM


He can't shoot.  His free throw pct was attrocious.

This. 5'11" guards who are really bad shooters don't play in the NBA.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: EnderWiggen on July 12, 2013, 12:36:13 PM
Great news for Dwight! 
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: MUCam on July 12, 2013, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 12, 2013, 12:30:24 PM
This. 5'11" guards who are really bad shooters don't play in the NBA.

This is probably right.

That said, I have always felt that D. James could have taken on a Jameer Nelson or Nate Robinson type role, if even not to the extent that the aforementioned found success. I am sure I am undervaluing Nelson and Robinson's respective college careers, since I am too lazy to look up stats, but I thought with NBA guidance and a chance, DJ had the raw physical talents to succeed.

I should note that I have never been offered a job as a NBA scout, GM or talent evaluator and there is probably a very good reason for that.

Would love to see DJ get at least a minute on the NBA books, but that ship has likely sailed.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on July 12, 2013, 01:05:23 PM
Awesome!

Suck it nomorebuycks!
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Mobot on July 12, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Wow, who could have predicted that?  Oh wait, I did... http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=21489.25
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: GGGG on July 12, 2013, 02:02:27 PM
Quote from: Eford4President2012 on July 12, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Wow, who could have predicted that?  Oh wait, I did... http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=21489.25

HA!  Good call.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Jay Bee on July 12, 2013, 02:04:28 PM
Think the Toronto fans are feeling squirmy?

Seems like a good situation for Dwight. Hope he kicks butt!
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Lennys Tap on July 12, 2013, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
Actually it's on a NBA roster at the start of a season when you are considered a NBA player per the NBA...but don't tell Lenny.   ;)




He signed a multi-year NBA contract. Best Jerel ever got was a multi-day contract. For now, I'll say advantage Dwight.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: LAZER on July 12, 2013, 02:08:52 PM
Quote from: Eford4President2012 on July 12, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Wow, who could have predicted that?  Oh wait, I did... http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=21489.25

Gotta tip my cap on that one.

He showed some taletn at MU, I'm glad he kept at it.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: bobnoxious on July 12, 2013, 02:26:28 PM
Quote from: Eford4President2012 on July 12, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Wow, who could have predicted that?  Oh wait, I did... http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=21489.25

Unreal
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Mobot on July 12, 2013, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: LAZER on July 12, 2013, 02:08:52 PM
Gotta tip my cap on that one.

He showed some taletn at MU, I'm glad he kept at it.

I normally don't like to brag but couldn't resist after reading the follow up posts from mklenn, 4everwarriors, MUfan12, PuertoRicanNightmare, and Tom Crean's Tanning Bed in that thread.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: wardle2wade on July 12, 2013, 02:35:54 PM
Quote from: Eford4President2012 on July 12, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Wow, who could have predicted that?  Oh wait, I did... http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=21489.25

Wow, great call. 

Congrats to Buycks; he's earned it.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: mileskishnish72 on July 12, 2013, 02:42:56 PM
Smiling out loud at work - I had forgotten all about Nomorebuycks - I had forgotten Eford's prediction - I wish I had forgotten a certain layup attempt. Did get to see him play in the Summer league a couple of times, and damn, he looked good!

Congratulations and good luck, DB!
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Mobot on July 12, 2013, 02:44:43 PM
Quote from: wardle2wade on July 12, 2013, 02:35:54 PM
Congrats to Buycks; he's earned it.

Definitely.  He had all the tools, just needed more time to bring it all together.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: seakm4 on July 12, 2013, 02:47:25 PM
Congrats Buycks on joining the ever growing list of MU players in the league.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: frozena pizza on July 12, 2013, 02:52:49 PM
Quote from: Eford4President2012 on July 12, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Wow, who could have predicted that?  Oh wait, I did... http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=21489.25

Well done.  That was a fun read and I'm glad I didn't weigh in on that prediction.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 12, 2013, 03:11:50 PM
Congrats to Buycks. I'll have to add Toronto to the list of teams I watch. Proud to say that list seems to get longer every year!
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: swoopem on July 12, 2013, 03:29:04 PM
5 straight years where a Marquette guy has made it to the league. Chicos has that for a 5 year plan?
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: keefe on July 12, 2013, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: cbowe3 on July 12, 2013, 03:29:04 PM
5 straight years where a Marquette Indiana guy has made it to the league. Chicos has that for a 5 year plan?
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Hamostradamus on July 12, 2013, 04:20:28 PM
Quote from: Eford4President2012 on July 12, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Wow, who could have predicted that?  Oh wait, I did... http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=21489.25

I absolutely LOVE it. I saw Buycks at an AAU event when he was a HS freshman.  I remember saying that he was really good, but too damn short and skinny.  Then he gets to MU and I thought, "gosh, if he only had another year or two to develop."  DB is a classic late bloomer.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: RubyWiscy on July 12, 2013, 05:20:16 PM
Great for him and the MU family.  However, I can never, ever forgive him for driving to the basket with a 1 point lead over Louisville with 12 seconds left his senior year.  Yes, that was the game MU blew a 16 point lead in the last 6 minutes.  I was at it.  It is still painful to remember or talk about.  Gotta go. Time for my sedative...
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: MU B2002 on July 12, 2013, 05:27:48 PM
Go fill up your glass, as its not even half empty.


Awesome news for Buycks.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 05:47:08 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 12, 2013, 02:07:38 PM
He signed a multi-year NBA contract. Best Jerel ever got was a multi-day contract. For now, I'll say advantage Dwight.

Don't disagree....I'm just telling you when the NBA counts him as a NBA player...when he is officially on a roster during the season. 

I'm happy for Dwight, extremely happy.  I still scratch my head why you were so upset and defensive for so long about Jerel.  I can only imagine what the root of that was.  ;)
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 05:50:47 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 12, 2013, 11:43:00 AM
Your logic:

1. Someone praised Buzz
2. Must compare Buzz to Crean, in a snarky way if possible and use a smiley face.

What the hell, man.

Your logic, ignore hypocrisy when you see it and it happens here all the time.  Should we go through the threads where OMG MU didn't go past the Sweet 16 because they had 3 NBA guys on the roster or whatever it was. 

I don't ignore it. 

And again, I'll take it more seriously when you dole out equal feigned outrage when it is done by others.

Here's an opportunity for you.   http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39249.msg504947#msg504947

Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: keefe on July 12, 2013, 05:53:54 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 05:50:47 PM
Your logic, ignore hypocrisy when you see it and it happens here all the time.  Should we go through the threads where OMG MU didn't go past the Sweet 16 because they had 3 NBA guys on the roster or whatever it was. 

I don't ignore it. 

And again, I'll take it more seriously when you dole out equal feigned outrage when it is done by others.

Here's an opportunity for you.   http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39249.msg504947#msg504947



WTF,O?
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 07:06:41 PM
I was hoping he would sign with the Heat, who were also after him. 

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228851/Dwight-Buycks-Agrees-To-Multi-Year-Deal-With-Raptors

Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: wadesworld on July 12, 2013, 08:11:21 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 05:50:47 PM
Your logic, ignore hypocrisy when you see it and it happens here all the time.  Should we go through the threads where OMG MU didn't go past the Sweet 16 because they had 3 NBA guys on the roster or whatever it was. 

I don't ignore it. 

And again, I'll take it more seriously when you dole out equal feigned outrage when it is done by others.

Here's an opportunity for you.   http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39249.msg504947#msg504947



There's a difference between a bunch of undrafted players and 2nd round picks on one college roster and 2+ lottery picks on one college roster.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: We R Final Four on July 12, 2013, 08:40:09 PM
Jucos to MU to NBA. Jucos to MU to NBA.

In a short period of time and out of necessity Buzz has turned MU as a destination for the top in the country. The beauty now is we no longer need jucos--they need us. What an impressive job. The top jucos in the country now must consider MU-not to mention every Juco coach praying to the Lord that one of his kids makes an NBA roster. Well, at MU they do son. Love it.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Lennys Tap on July 12, 2013, 09:29:13 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 05:47:08 PM
Don't disagree....I'm just telling you when the NBA counts him as a NBA player...when he is officially on a roster during the season. 



Well, I guess that proves just how irrelevant "what the NBA counts" is. Henceforth we can ignore them.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: avid1010 on July 12, 2013, 10:05:54 PM
he's getting paid chicos...and from the vibe you give off on here...i'd think you'd realize that's all that matters ;D  well that, and he'll have some really impressive names to drop. 
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: hilltopper03 on July 12, 2013, 10:23:16 PM
Does anyone know the specifics of his deal?
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: MU82 on July 12, 2013, 10:38:11 PM
Having only seen Buycks at Marquette, I will admit that I am surprised he was able to receive a contract from an NBA team.

He obviously worked very, very hard and improved a ton. Congrats to him!
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: keefe on July 12, 2013, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 12, 2013, 11:10:46 AM

He didn't qualify because of a f*ck up at his high school.  My recollection was that he was fully qualified with regards to ACT, but didn't take the correct number of core classes for NCAA eligibility because of poor counselling.  

I wouldn't say poor counseling as that absolves an individual of personal responsibility. I would say it was a counselor who made a tragic mistake that essentially cheated a deserving young man of a life changing opportunity. Though it worked out in the end it added complexity and difficulty to Buycks' challenge and the end game could have been markedly different. In the real world this person would have been held accountable. In a public school system the NEA was likely there to make the counselor out to be Jeanne d'Arc. I'll bet the incompetent fool is still ruining the lives of other students with impunity.  The NEA - Amerika's very own Politburo.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: forgetful on July 12, 2013, 11:09:46 PM
Quote from: keefe on July 12, 2013, 10:49:36 PM
I wouldn't say poor counseling as that absolves an individual of personal responsibility. I would say it was a counselor who made a tragic mistake that essentially cheated a deserving young man of a life changing opportunity. Though it worked out in the end it added complexity and difficulty to Buycks' challenge and the end game could have been markedly different. In the real world this person would have been held accountable. In a public school system the NEA was likely there to make the counselor out to be Jeanne d'Arc. I'll bet the incompetent fool is still ruining the lives of other students with impunity.  The NEA - Amerika's very own Politburo.

To be fair, such things are not just associated with the NEA.  Some CEO's have bankrupted more than 1 company, but will still get hired for millions to run another.  It is possible, that the counselor was new and simply made a mistake, hopefully they never do it again.

I will agree though, that some aspects of the way the NEA works is a problem.  If individuals are incompetent they need to be removed. At the same time, it used to be if a student was doing poorly, the parents yelled at their kid.  Now, if a student does poorly, they yell at the teacher and ask what is wrong with them.  In such a climate, we have to find some way to protect teachers who challenge the students and aren't afraid to fail those who aren't keeping up.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: keefe on July 13, 2013, 03:19:15 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on July 12, 2013, 10:05:54 PM
he'll have some really impressive names to drop. 

Tony La Russa??
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Sunbelt15 on July 13, 2013, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: forgetful on July 12, 2013, 11:09:46 PM
To be fair, such things are not just associated with the NEA.  Some CEO's have bankrupted more than 1 company, but will still get hired for millions to run another.  It is possible, that the counselor was new and simply made a mistake, hopefully they never do it again.

I will agree though, that some aspects of the way the NEA works is a problem.  If individuals are incompetent they need to be removed. At the same time, it used to be if a student was doing poorly, the parents yelled at their kid.  Now, if a student does poorly, they yell at the teacher and ask what is wrong with them.  In such a climate, we have to find some way to protect teachers who challenge the students and aren't afraid to fail those who aren't keeping up.

And some day things haven't changed..?
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: macman320 on July 13, 2013, 09:03:38 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on July 12, 2013, 11:19:14 AM
It really is amazing. If Vander makes it (or Jamil, though he was sitting out technically) that team could've put together a starting five of all NBA players. Makes the Sweet 16 look even a tad disappointing.

G: Buycks
G: DJO or Vander
F: Butler
F: Crowder
F: Wilson
I know you're probably kidding about that team being a disappointment, but I dont think Buycks makes the NBA if he doesn't play for Buzz. GTST lasted for him years after. Also (just because its summer I'll go here), none of these guys make the NBA if they go to Madison except for Crowder. When Jimmy got here people thought he was a waste of scholarship. Buzz brought in potential and maxed it out. That shouldn't be an argument against him that he did "less with more."
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 13, 2013, 10:05:08 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 05:50:47 PM
Your logic, ignore hypocrisy when you see it and it happens here all the time.  Should we go through the threads where OMG MU didn't go past the Sweet 16 because they had 3 NBA guys on the roster or whatever it was. 

I don't ignore it. 

And again, I'll take it more seriously when you dole out equal feigned outrage when it is done by others.

Here's an opportunity for you.   http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39249.msg504947#msg504947



Obviously, I don't have the time or energy to go through every thread and be the hypocrisy police.  Plus, isn't that your self appointed mission?

The problem is that you are the one that starts the Crean stuff most of the time.  Why are you obsessed with defending him on an internet message board?  We all know your stance, and there is zero chance that you pointing out the hypocrisy of others on the board is going to change them.  Yet you keep on doing it.  I accept that Crean did some great things for MU... others will always point out his faults more than his strengths.  I just don't see the point of defending him all of the time. 

Honestly, its a good thing you don't listen to talk radio in Chicago as a Chicago sports fan.  It would totally consume your life trying to change idiots minds.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Skatastrophy on July 13, 2013, 10:37:06 AM
stop.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: DienerTime34 on July 13, 2013, 11:13:19 AM
There's nothing on the Raptors website about the signing. I haven't seen anything beyond Twitter feeds and a Real GM post reporting this. Anyone find anything official?
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Golden Avalanche on July 13, 2013, 11:42:17 AM
Quote from: keefe on July 13, 2013, 03:19:15 AM
Tony La Russa??

Perhaps Dusty Baker.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: WarriorFan on July 13, 2013, 12:04:19 PM
DB finally getting a chance he really deserves.  Why?  because in his final year at MU he played PG.  Unfortunately Vander didn't stick around for same opportunity and may never get this chance.  Well done Dwight!
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on July 13, 2013, 12:42:17 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on July 12, 2013, 10:05:54 PM
he's getting paid chicos...and from the vibe you give off on here...i'd think you'd realize that's all that matters ;D  well that, and he'll have some really impressive names to drop. 

I love that he's getting paid.  Again, I'm happy for him.  Makes me wonder why certain people here were so defensive about McNeal being labeled in the NBA....well, no it doesn't make me wonder why as we all know why.  ::)

Nevertheless, I'm merely pointing out the incorrect assumption made here.  According to the NBA you are considered a NBA player when you are on a roster once the season starts, which is exactly where Dwight will be.  Awesome for Dwight, awesome for MU. 

In the last 10 years some amazing young men have been in that situation

Jerel McNeal
Jae Crowder
Wes Matthews
Dywane Wade
Steve Novak
Lazar Hayward
Jimmy Butler
Travis Diener
DJO

and very soon, Dwight Buycks


This from my NBA counterparts that I shared earlier. 

Question:  "When is a player in the NBA officially considered a NBA player by the NBA.  If they play a preseason game?  If they are on a regular season roster?  Do they have to actually play a possession?"



ANSWER:  "That person is considered an NBA player as he made the team.....regardless of whether he plays or not, he will still be in the records on a regular season roster.  As long as you are on a regular season roster, you are a player......regardless of whether you ever played a minute.  As long as you are on a roster, you are considered a NBA player.  Nothing to do with playing time."
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: OnWisconsin on July 13, 2013, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: BRMU23 on July 12, 2013, 10:50:05 AM
Take that Bucky

Still won more ball games..  ;)
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: wadesworld on July 13, 2013, 02:39:14 PM
Quote from: OnWisconsin on July 13, 2013, 02:32:55 PM
Still won more ball games..  ;)

When?

It has been great beating up on the Badgers the last couple of years, and will continue to be great while we continue to do so in the future.  It was also great watching the druggie Marshall Henderson knock the Badgers out in round 1 while we were playing to go to a Final Four.  More of that to come...
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: avid1010 on July 13, 2013, 02:53:18 PM
Quote from: OnWisconsin on July 13, 2013, 02:32:55 PM
Still won more ball games..  ;)
and consistently fail to meet/exceed expectations in the ncaa tourney.  as long as bo is on your bench...you'll be good with not chance of greatness.  plus you'll have an arrogant prick for a coach.  we know how that feels having crean around.  always pulled for bucky when bennett was on the bench...bo's a jerk, and his arrogance/work ethic pertaining to recruiting will always hold bucky back. 
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: OnWisconsin on July 13, 2013, 04:37:17 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on July 13, 2013, 02:53:18 PM
and consistently fail to meet/exceed expectations in the ncaa tourney.  as long as bo is on your bench...you'll be good with not chance of greatness.  plus you'll have an arrogant prick for a coach.  we know how that feels having crean around.  always pulled for bucky when bennett was on the bench...bo's a jerk, and his arrogance/work ethic pertaining to recruiting will always hold bucky back. 

Our regular season production is usually about equal to MU's, but with the same or most post season success, so I don't follow your logic. As far as this past season, that was a miracle coaching performance by Bo, to even win 20 some games. As for the poster who asked when, I was referring to the 10-11 season and 11-12 seasons combined. Anyways, congrats to buycks, must have improved a lot. Congrats on all the future victories against us too! I'm sure you'll win 10 straight or something  ;)
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: brewcity77 on July 13, 2013, 04:49:20 PM
Quote from: Eford4President2012 on July 12, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Wow, who could have predicted that?  Oh wait, I did... http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=21489.25

You weren't alone, though you were a bit more bold about it...

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 01, 2011, 12:24:59 PM
I wonder what Buycks would have done if he could have been our primary two this year instead of playing out of position at the one. He has plenty of athleticism, quickness, and a solid outside shot. I know some (cough, willie warrior, cough) would instantly shoot this down, but it wouldn't shock me if he could get to the D-League and eventually get a cup of coffee in the NBA. He definitely tailed off majorly later in the season, but with a refined game, I could see him getting to the end of someone's bench in a few years.

Kudos to Dwight. He worked his butt off to get this, and did a great job of refining the parts of his game that didn't suit what NBA scouts were looking for. Truly impressive for a kid with so much playground and recklessness during his college career to develop as a post-college player so well. Just goes to show there are different ways to reach your goals.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Brewtown Andy on July 14, 2013, 02:55:25 AM
Quote from: DienerTime34 on July 13, 2013, 11:13:19 AM
There's nothing on the Raptors website about the signing. I haven't seen anything beyond Twitter feeds and a Real GM post reporting this. Anyone find anything official?

The Real GM post is based on the reporting by the Thunder beat reporter for The Oklahoman. OKC was taking a long look at Buycks for their deep bench depth and Buycks got a better deal backing up Kyle Lowry.

Also, Buycks and Buzz both tweeted about the deal, so that's pretty official.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: MUCrew on July 14, 2013, 08:24:22 AM
Uhhhh did Buycks fail his physical?  Read post from user Ralphb07 (pretty reliable guy on the bulls board).

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1259129&start=1185#p36550522
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on July 14, 2013, 08:31:18 AM
Haven't been able to find anything other than that...... I know Julyan Stone failed his physical which is why they had to get DB in the first place.  Let's hope that was the confusion................................
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: GGGG on July 14, 2013, 08:33:00 AM
Quote from: MUCrew on July 14, 2013, 08:24:22 AM
Uhhhh did Buycks fail his physical?  Read post from user Ralphb07 (pretty reliable guy on the bulls board).

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1259129&start=1185#p36550522


Nothing about that anywhere else.  In fact if you read Buycks own twitter feed it doesn't hint toward anything except this...

https://twitter.com/BuycksWorld23/status/356210804456046593

If anything it sounds like a delay...
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Jay Bee on July 14, 2013, 10:39:41 AM
sour stomach?
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Steve Buscemi on July 14, 2013, 12:34:48 PM
Quote from: MUCrew on July 14, 2013, 08:24:22 AM
Uhhhh did Buycks fail his physical?  Read post from user Ralphb07 (pretty reliable guy on the bulls board).

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1259129&start=1185#p36550522

That's just Nomore.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: keefe on July 14, 2013, 01:24:55 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 14, 2013, 10:39:41 AM
sour stomach?

Known in South Bend as the Cooley Colon
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: keefe on July 14, 2013, 02:11:23 PM
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on July 13, 2013, 11:42:17 AM
Perhaps Dusty Baker.

He's no Harbaugh
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: brandx on July 17, 2013, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on July 14, 2013, 02:55:25 AM
The Real GM post is based on the reporting by the Thunder beat reporter for The Oklahoman. OKC was taking a long look at Buycks for their deep bench depth and Buycks got a better deal backing up Kyle Lowry.

Also, Buycks and Buzz both tweeted about the deal, so that's pretty official.

I'm guessing that at least the 1st year for Toronto is guaranteed - which wouldn't have been the case in OKC. Dwight had a standing lucrative offer to return to France so it's questionable how attractive just an invite (from OKC) would be.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: keefe on July 17, 2013, 11:26:50 AM
Quote from: brandx on July 17, 2013, 11:22:16 AM
I'm guessing that at least the 1st year for Toronto is guaranteed - which wouldn't have been the case in OKC. Dwight had a standing lucrative offer to return to France so it's questionable how attractive just an invite (from OKC) would be.

I would in no way ever characterize an invitation to live in Oklahoma City as attractive
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: deerchaser on July 18, 2013, 05:49:19 AM
Looks like this finally became official. Good to hear. http://blog.raptors.com/press-releases/raptors-sign-guard-dwight-buycks/ (http://blog.raptors.com/press-releases/raptors-sign-guard-dwight-buycks/)
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: MUCrew on July 18, 2013, 07:19:48 AM
He's going to have some competition at the PG spot:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--raptors-will-sign-d-j--augustin-to-one-year-deal--222640892.html
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on July 18, 2013, 08:30:38 AM
Quote from: deerchaser on July 18, 2013, 05:49:19 AM
Looks like this finally became official. Good to hear. http://blog.raptors.com/press-releases/raptors-sign-guard-dwight-buycks/ (http://blog.raptors.com/press-releases/raptors-sign-guard-dwight-buycks/)

Saw on twitter it's $700k guaranteed.  Nice payout for his hard work.  Hopefully he gets that second contract!
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: macman320 on July 18, 2013, 06:23:43 PM
That's what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: Sunbelt15 on July 22, 2013, 10:48:12 AM
If he sees any kind of significant playing time this year, he'd probably resign at 1.7 to 3 million per year. My hopes are high for him.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: marquette20 on July 23, 2013, 12:10:29 AM
Raptors signed DJ Augustin which is a major bummer to Dwight's chances to be the backup.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks to the Raptors
Post by: bamamarquettefan on August 05, 2013, 03:12:55 AM
I have so missed Cracked Sidewalks and MUScoop with my responsibilities running Breitbart Sports pages, but was thrilled to come across Buycks signing. I know we had a lot of arguments on these pages because I thought he was under rated by many of our fans and I hope everyone appreciates how many great MU players never made the NBA. Dwight was special, I knew he had the potential when I sat court side in Kansas City and watched how physical he was with Duke's backcourt.

However, this is not an "I told you so." I never thought DJO was an NBA player, and I will be just as happy with him proving me wrong.

There are very few players who play through their seniors years at a school and then make the pros and Marquette had been blessed to give us players we could watch that long and then see them in the NBA.

Looking forward to a great new group on the court this year. GO MARQUETTE!
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