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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: jsglow on July 08, 2013, 09:50:40 AM
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According to MU's Facebook page:
'MU begins the season against Southern (Nov. 8) at the BMO Harris Bradley Center, followed by home games versus Grambling State (Nov. 12), Ohio State (Nov. 16) and New Hampshire (Nov. 20 or 21).'
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Yick. The only one of those games worth watching is tOSU.
Big boys play big boys. Period.
If you want a joke game, go find Athletes in Action. Or somebody's junior Olympic team.
I'm disappointed they expect us to pay full price for Grambling, Southern etc.
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According to MU's Facebook page:
'MU begins the season against Southern (Nov. 8) at the BMO Harris Bradley Center, followed by home games versus Grambling State (Nov. 12), Ohio State (Nov. 16) and New Hampshire (Nov. 20 or 21).'
HMMMM.. Southern, Grambling and New Hampshire are big time RPI boosters.
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Two warm-up games to get ready for Ohio St.
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MU fans will have a hard time understanding that the home schedule will be nothing compared to what it once was. The new Big East has GTown and Villy, the rest is nothing, add the bad
home games in Nov. and Dec. and you the fans will be getting ripped off. Losing Pitt, Louey, ND, Syracuse are big time games that will be missed.
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HMMMM.. Southern, Grambling and New Hampshire are big time RPI boosters.
Hey look ... Willie's finally found something to gripe about.
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Nov. 25th at Arizona State
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Yick. The only one of those games worth watching is tOSU.
Big boys play big boys. Period.
If you want a joke game, go find Athletes in Action. Or somebody's junior Olympic team.
I'm disappointed they expect us to pay full price for Grambling, Southern etc.
I'm disappointed people complain about this year after year as ifnitbsomehow unique to Marquette, and not a reality of sports.
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Closing RPIs from last year:
Southern #182
Grambling #347
tOSU #11
New Hampshire #291
Then on the road to ASU.
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Yick. The only one of those games worth watching is tOSU.
Big boys play big boys. Period.
If you want a joke game, go find Athletes in Action. Or somebody's junior Olympic team.
I'm disappointed they expect us to pay full price for Grambling, Southern etc.
Obviously you aren't familiar with the actual schedules that "big boys" play in non-conf.
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Big boys play big boys. Period.
Not really. Big boys play a few warm-up games against little boys in the non-con, mixed in with a few games against other big boys. MU has been doing this for a long time and so does every other high major team.
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Is southern southern Illinois? Or some other southern?
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Yick. The only one of those games worth watching is tOSU.
Big boys play big boys. Period.
If you want a joke game, go find Athletes in Action. Or somebody's junior Olympic team.
I'm disappointed they expect us to pay full price for Grambling, Southern etc.
It sounds like you expect our warmup games to be against Belmont Vermont and Murray state and for all the other games to be against Kentucky, unc Etc. we schedule the way we do to appease developing players with playing time and let them adjust to Buzz's system. It also guarantees us a certain amount of wins and then you do the math that we'll win at least another percent of the bigger games so that we make the tournament. If you had your scheduling the only years we'd have made the tournament would be 08-09, 11-12 and 12-13
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Yick. The only one of those games worth watching is tOSU.
Big boys play big boys. Period.
If you want a joke game, go find Athletes in Action. Or somebody's junior Olympic team.
I'm disappointed they expect us to pay full price for Grambling, Southern etc.
The "big boys" on Duke's schedule last year included Western Washington, Winston-Salem State, Georgia State, Delaware, Cornell and Elon.
Kentucky's "big boys" included Northwood, Transylvania, Lafayette, Morehead State, Long Island, Samford and Lipscomb.
Syracuse faced Colgate, Wagner, Monmouth, Canisius, Alcorn State and Central Connecticut.
Ohio State: Albany, Northern Kentucky, Savannah St., UNC-Asheville, Chicago St., Missouri-Kansas City.
Want more?
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Is southern southern Illinois? Or some other southern?
Southern University, which is in Baton Rouge, LA.
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The "big boys" on Duke's schedule last year included Western Washington, Winston-Salem State, Georgia State, Delaware, Cornell and Elon.
Kentucky's "big boys" included Northwood, Transylvania, Lafayette, Morehead State, Long Island, Samford and Lipscomb.
Syracuse faced Colgate, Wagner, Monmouth, Canisius, Alcorn State and Central Connecticut.
Ohio State: Albany, Northern Kentucky, Savannah St., UNC-Asheville, Chicago St., Missouri-Kansas City.
Want more?
In all fairness LIU has made the tournament in 2011, 2012, and 2013. And UNCA made it in 2011 and 2012.
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In all fairness LIU has made the tournament in 2011, 2012, and 2013. And UNCA made it in 2011 and 2012.
And Southern made it last year...and had a second half lead against Gonzaga.
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I suspect that there was some sensitivity paid to the 'heavy Frosh' reality this year. MU's staff does an excellent job each year balancing the need to win, grow as a team, and build RPI stature.
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In all fairness LIU has made the tournament in 2011, 2012, and 2013. And UNCA made it in 2011 and 2012.
Long Island and UNC-Asheville are now "big boys" in NCAA basketball.
Got it.
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Long Island and UNC-Asheville are now "big boys" in NCAA basketball.
Got it.
Yes, cause that's what I said. I was agreeing with you and trying to edit your argument just a little bit and you decide to get defensive and draw conclusions that I think those guys are big boys. There is a difference between Grambling and LIU it's not like because they're both mid majors they suddenly are the same level of being awful. You've gotta calm down and realize who's actually trying to fight with you here.
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And Southern made it last year...and had a second half lead against Gonzaga.
+1.
Wonder if MU has ever opened against a NCAA Tourney team if not involved in some kind of 'special' event (like the Carrier Classic)? Shoule be one helluva Friday night with the BEast banner going up pre-game.
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Similarly, although Tiago Splitter is large and highly paid, he is not a "big boy" of the NBA so LeBron's rejection of his attempted dunk carries limited value. Maybe jsglow can take down the gif in his signature so my page loads that much faster. Same thing with Novak doing the Aaron Rodgers impression and that soccer coach with his head on fire. On the other hand I never minded waiting for the Kate Upton dougie gif to load.
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+1.
Wonder if MU has ever opened against a NCAA Tourney team if not involved in some kind of 'special' event (like the Carrier Classic)? Shoule be one helluva Friday night with the BEast banner going up pre-game.
Unless we lose.
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Hey look ... Willie's finally found something to gripe about.
And so has Pakuni!
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Similarly, although Tiago Splitter is large and highly paid, he is not a "big boy" of the NBA so LeBron's rejection of his attempted dunk carries limited value. Maybe jsglow can take down the gif in his signature so my page loads that much faster. Same thing with Novak doing the Aaron Rodgers impression and that soccer coach with his head on fire. On the other hand I never minded waiting for the Kate Upton dougie gif to load.
Now Kate Upton is a topic to take this thread to about 30 pages.
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I'm disappointed people complain about this year after year as ifnitbsomehow unique to Marquette, and not a reality of sports.
I agree. MU has played tough non-league schedule with Buzz. You need $$$$ games to pay the bills for both schools.
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Is southern southern Illinois? Or some other southern?
It's Southern! The Jags.
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I have a feeling that none of you would be happy unless this was the schedule
Home Vs Duke
Home Vs UCLA
Home Vs Kansas
Home Vs Wisconsin (Because every team needs a buy game)
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The "big boys" on Duke's schedule last year included Western Washington, Winston-Salem State, Georgia State, Delaware, Cornell and Elon.
Kentucky's "big boys" included Northwood, Transylvania, Lafayette, Morehead State, Long Island, Samford and Lipscomb.
Syracuse faced Colgate, Wagner, Monmouth, Canisius, Alcorn State and Central Connecticut.
Ohio State: Albany, Northern Kentucky, Savannah St., UNC-Asheville, Chicago St., Missouri-Kansas City.
Want more?
Thanks Pakuni. I wanted to post something like this myself but was too lazy to look it all up.
The big boys play cupcakes every single year, and lots of them.
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In the span of 3 weeks MU will play:
Ohio State at Home
New Mexico in Las Vegas
@Arizona State
3 Games in the Wooden Legacy (1 or 2 of them could be vs Miami, Creighton and / or San Diego State)
@Wisconsin
That's 5-6 high profile big conf games for our non conf. Why in world is anyone complaining?
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Similarly, although Tiago Splitter is large and highly paid, he is not a "big boy" of the NBA so LeBron's rejection of his attempted dunk carries limited value. Maybe jsglow can take down the gif in his signature so my page loads that much faster. Same thing with Novak doing the Aaron Rodgers impression and that soccer coach with his head on fire. On the other hand I never minded waiting for the Kate Upton dougie gif to load.
Ask and ye shall receive. However, warriorchick has promised to put her sexy Clay Matthews Dance gif back up if she sees Kate Upton on here.
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In the span of 3 weeks MU will play:
Ohio State at Home
New Mexico in Las Vegas
@Arizona State
3 Games in the Wooden Legacy (1 or 2 of them could be vs Miami, Creighton and / or San Diego State)
@Wisconsin
That's 5-6 high profile big conf games for our non conf. Why in world is anyone complaining?
Small point, but I'm pretty sure New Mexico is going to be Dec 21st not Nov 21st. Primarily because Marquette said New Hampshire was on Nov 20/21. Still, a lot of high profile games in Nov/Dec.
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MGM Grand Garden Classic (Albuquerque Journal and White and Blue Review)
Dec. 20-21: Las Vegas
Dec. 20
Colorado vs. Oklahoma State
Portland vs. Bradley
Dec. 21
New Mexico vs. Marquette
Bradley vs. Pacific
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My bad. I has seen Nov 21st for MGM. Dec 21st makes more sense. Nonetheless I am very pleased with the sked as constructed and looking forward a round robin in conference.
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Ask and ye shall receive. However, warriorchick has promised to put her sexy Clay Matthews Dance gif back up if she sees Kate Upton on here.
Not sure about that dance and with all due respect to Warriorchick, I vote Kate Upton.
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Who does the schedule on the wiki site, it listed Dec. 7th for the Badger game. Most years it's the 2nd weekend in Dec.
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It sounds like you expect our warmup games to be against Belmont Vermont and Murray state and for all the other games to be against Kentucky, unc Etc. we schedule the way we do to appease developing players with playing time and let them adjust to Buzz's system. It also guarantees us a certain amount of wins and then you do the math that we'll win at least another percent of the bigger games so that we make the tournament. If you had your scheduling the only years we'd have made the tournament would be 08-09, 11-12 and 12-13
1) Does Marquette charge any less for these pseudo exhibition games that it does for the Big Boys? Obviously not.
2) If we're not ready for the Big time, why not extend pre-season practice? Let them learn Buzz's system on their time, not our's. You would think that if someone was recruited to Marquette, they would know the system. Or they should be reserves until they learn it. I'm not a basketball player but we're not talking brain surgery with a liver transplant thrown in, are we?
3) Yes, I know we historically played crap in November and December. Al used to schedule St. John's of Minnesota, St. Thomas of Minnesota and a host of other places I had to find using The Collegiate Guide to Obscure Colleges. He called them cupcakes and they were as offensive then as they are now.
Big Boys should play Big Boys. Period! Now, then and forever.
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1) Does Marquette charge any less for these pseudo exhibition games that it does for the Big Boys? Obviously not.
2) If we're not ready for the Big time, why not extend pre-season practice? Let them learn Buzz's system on their time, not our's. You would think that if someone was recruited to Marquette, they would know the system. Or they should be reserves until they learn it. I'm not a basketball player but we're not talking brain surgery with a liver transplant thrown in, are we?
3) Yes, I know we historically played crap in November and December. Al used to schedule St. John's of Minnesota, St. Thomas of Minnesota and a host of other places I had to find using The Collegiate Guide to Obscure Colleges. He called them cupcakes and they were as offensive then as they are now.
Big Boys should play Big Boys. Period! Now, then and forever.
You don't realize that even in the NBA there's cupcakes do you? You can't avoid cupcakes that's the way sports work. If it were up to you only wanting more bang for your buck we'd never make the tournament and we wouldn't be considered a "big boy" anymore. There's only sooo many games straight of big boys these players can take that's why the tournament is such a big deal.
I get it if you aren't/weren't a basketball player, but have you never played sports or something? Every coach has his own way of doing things, think of if a recruit came from a slow down offense or no defense style of play and needed to be coached to play uptempo. Then also realize that telling a top 100 player "yeah we're just gonna use you as a reserve" isn't going to remotely help recruiting why do you think we have had so many transfers?
I don't know about ticket prices I'm a super senior so I still get my student tickets, but the way I see it two tshirts, probably would cost 30 in the spirit shop, Madness a little chunk of money, then would pay like 10 for a cupcake game vs like 30 or 40 for OSU or WI, student tickets, at least, are a great deal.
And that big boys vs big boys philosophy would prevent any teams from ever becoming good that weren't before, Al once called Xavier a cupcake game that is a must win, now days they're a competitive team that has had more success than us the past 10 years with 2 elite 8s and 3 sweet 16s. If your philosophy was the way things were they'd just be the best bad team and never have been able to work their way up to that level.
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1) Does Marquette charge any less for these pseudo exhibition games that it does for the Big Boys? Obviously not.
2) If we're not ready for the Big time, why not extend pre-season practice? Let them learn Buzz's system on their time, not our's. You would think that if someone was recruited to Marquette, they would know the system. Or they should be reserves until they learn it. I'm not a basketball player but we're not talking brain surgery with a liver transplant thrown in, are we?
3) Yes, I know we historically played crap in November and December. Al used to schedule St. John's of Minnesota, St. Thomas of Minnesota and a host of other places I had to find using The Collegiate Guide to Obscure Colleges. He called them cupcakes and they were as offensive then as they are now.
Big Boys should play Big Boys. Period! Now, then and forever.
1) If you don't think it's worth it, then don't go. Very few teams at the collegiate level change prices for games against cupcakes
2) There is a HUGE difference between learning the system in practice and executing it in a game. You can run the system perfectly everytime in practice but that doesn't mean crap. Other teams will think differently and have different strategies to counter our system. Not too mention the pressure that comes against playing in front of a crowd and when a W or an L matters. I will always advocate playing a couple of cupcakes to warm our players up.
3)If it worked for Al, than its works for me. Also consider the financial implications. Bigger schools would have to pay us to come to their court or vice versa. Its much cheaper to pay Southern to come play rather than Kentucky.
Big Boys do play big boys. They also play cupcakes...usually before playing the Big Boys. See the past post about the list of cupcakes blue bloods played last season.
And for what its worth, we should watch out for southern. They won their conference last season and will be one of the favorites to win it this season.
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In your first post, you said this:
Big boys play big boys. Period.
But when it was pointed out to you that this really is no different than MU's past, or pretty much what all of the "big boys" do now, you changed it to this.
Big Boys should play Big Boys. Period!
Which is a different argument entirely. Yeah, and while I would like the top level schools to play nothing but top level opponents, the economics of college sports say that will never happen. The "big boys" need as many home games as possible to maximize revenue...the "little boys" need to get on the road and cash some checks also to maximize revenue. It's a system that works for everyone.
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MGM Grand Garden Classic (Albuquerque Journal and White and Blue Review)
Dec. 20-21: Las Vegas
Dec. 20
Colorado vs. Oklahoma State
Portland vs. Bradley
Dec. 21
New Mexico vs. Marquette
Bradley vs. Pacific
where have you seen this confirmed?
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Who does the schedule on the wiki site, it listed Dec. 7th for the Badger game. Most years it's the 2nd weekend in Dec.
1) Anyone can edit the wiki. That's why its a wiki.
2) UW-Madison finals are Dec 16th. Typically the game falls the two weekends before finals.
3) 2012 game was on the 8th, 2011 game was on the 3rd...
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UW game is the 7th. Pearl Harbor Day.
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1) Anyone can edit the wiki. That's why its a wiki.
2) UW-Madison finals are Dec 16th. Typically the game falls the two weekends before finals.
3) 2012 game was on the 8th, 2011 game was on the 3rd...
2012 was the 8th, the 2nd weekend in December. UW-MU is during the Army/Navy game, not during Championship weekend in college football. Maybe it's a Madison thing.
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+1.
Wonder if MU has ever opened against a NCAA Tourney team if not involved in some kind of 'special' event (like the Carrier Classic)? Shoule be one helluva Friday night with the BEast banner going up pre-game.
Macillvanie, Key and Logterman started their career with a game at #6 ranked Duke on 11-14-90. The real oddity is that they ended their career with a game against #6 ranked Duke 3-24-94. Both were losses. I wonder if anyone else played the same school the first and last games or their career?
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1) If you don't think it's worth it, then don't go. Very few teams at the collegiate level change prices for games against cupcakes
3)If it worked for Al, than its works for me......
1) Generally, I don't go to Cupcake U games. And judging by the number of empty seats at the Bradley Center, neither does a lot of other people.
3) OUCH! That one hurt more than anything else here!
Realistically, apart from value, I am concerned about RPI at the end of the year. Playing Grambling, St. John's of MN or the Wauwatosa School of Nuns (which probably would be the toughest of the three opponents), doesn't do a thing for RPI. Playing Big Boys does -- especially if we win!
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In your first post, you said this:
But when it was pointed out to you that this really is no different than MU's past, or pretty much what all of the "big boys" do now, you changed it to this.
Which is a different argument entirely. Yeah, and while I would like the top level schools to play nothing but top level opponents, the economics of college sports say that will never happen. The "big boys" need as many home games as possible to maximize revenue...the "little boys" need to get on the road and cash some checks also to maximize revenue. It's a system that works for everyone.
My bad. It was late at night and Big Boys Play Big Boys. Especially if they want an RPI that will get them into the NCAA tournament. And, it's doubtful we'll ever lose to any of these teams, but if we ever do, our season is almost over before it starts.
Look at the impact of the Green Bay game last year. That one was a near big boy game and had we not shown some heroics in the conference season, our tournament hopes would have died in the Reich Center.
Think of the implication if we had ever lost to that little boy on the East Side, UW-M! Yikes!
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Look at the impact of the Green Bay game last year. That one was a near big boy game and had we not shown some heroics in the conference season, our tournament hopes would have died in the Reich Center.
Think of the implication if we had ever lost to that little boy on the East Side, UW-M! Yikes!
We got a three seed. We could have lost 4 more games and been safely in the tournament.
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My bad. It was late at night and Big Boys Play Big Boys. Especially if they want an RPI that will get them into the NCAA tournament. And, it's doubtful we'll ever lose to any of these teams, but if we ever do, our season is almost over before it starts.
Look at the impact of the Green Bay game last year. That one was a near big boy game and had we not shown some heroics in the conference season, our tournament hopes would have died in the Reich Center.
Think of the implication if we had ever lost to that little boy on the East Side, UW-M! Yikes!
Are you saying that UWGB is almost a "big boy" in your mind?
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My bad. It was late at night and Big Boys Play Big Boys.
That was already shown to be largely false. Everyone plays cupcakes.
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1) Does Marquette charge any less for these pseudo exhibition games that it does for the Big Boys? Obviously not.
2) If we're not ready for the Big time, why not extend pre-season practice? Let them learn Buzz's system on their time, not our's. You would think that if someone was recruited to Marquette, they would know the system. Or they should be reserves until they learn it. I'm not a basketball player but we're not talking brain surgery with a liver transplant thrown in, are we?
3) Yes, I know we historically played crap in November and December. Al used to schedule St. John's of Minnesota, St. Thomas of Minnesota and a host of other places I had to find using The Collegiate Guide to Obscure Colleges. He called them cupcakes and they were as offensive then as they are now.
Big Boys should play Big Boys. Period! Now, then and forever.
You have demonstrated your fundamental lack of understanding of why those games are scheduled. "Cupcake games" have little to to do with wins and losses, and everything thing to do with the revenue they generate. Those games pay the bills. That's it. Just as NFL and NBA teams require season ticket holders to purchase preseason games, so do college teams require that you buy the Nov/Dec games. It's the simple reality of charging what the market is willing to pay.
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2012 was the 8th, the 2nd weekend in December. UW-MU is during the Army/Navy game, not during Championship weekend in college football. Maybe it's a Madison thing.
UW game is confirmed on December 7th per the MU Facebook page. And Arizona State confirmed on Nov. 25th.
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UW game is confirmed on December 7th per the MU Facebook page. And Arizona State confirmed on Nov. 25th.
Yes, we all know that. Facebook is where everyone is getting the dates from.
What does that have to do with past years, when UW-MU have played?
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Marquette actually does charge more for 'Premium' conference games.
As for playing cupcakes vs. BIG BOYS, didn't you ever notice how Syracuse will often be 11-0 and not even play any games outside of New York state? Not many of those are BIG BOY games.
1) Does Marquette charge any less for these pseudo exhibition games that it does for the Big Boys? Obviously not.
2) If we're not ready for the Big time, why not extend pre-season practice? Let them learn Buzz's system on their time, not our's. You would think that if someone was recruited to Marquette, they would know the system. Or they should be reserves until they learn it. I'm not a basketball player but we're not talking brain surgery with a liver transplant thrown in, are we?
3) Yes, I know we historically played crap in November and December. Al used to schedule St. John's of Minnesota, St. Thomas of Minnesota and a host of other places I had to find using The Collegiate Guide to Obscure Colleges. He called them cupcakes and they were as offensive then as they are now.
Big Boys should play Big Boys. Period! Now, then and forever.
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Marquette actually does charge more for 'Premium' conference games.
True, but that's true only for single-game tickets. I believe the original argument was referring to season ticket holders.
Also, premium pricing single-game tickets is becoming a common practice now for major programs. I saw MU at Cuse (Jan 2012) and bought the ticket from their box office on gameday. I paid $95 face for an awful lower level ticket... last row corner lower level bleacher and under an overhang in the Carrier Dome. Cuse charged $95 face because it was a Saturday conference game... and because it was the only thing to do within 200 miles that Saturday in January. Would have been great if MU completed that comeback.
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I still cannot believe that in a year where we play:
Ohio State
Bucky
ASU
New Mexico
AND a three game national tourney...
that we still have ppl complaining about the sked. Sure the home non conf is light but if that's how the sausage gets made and I get 6 good neutral / road games in the non conf, I am not going to complain. And I have lower level seats that I spend 4 figures on annually.
Look for me hob-nobbing, networking and socializing with friends at Southern & New Hamp and then find me at home pacing in front of the TV for those road games.
This sked could end up rivaling 1994 in terms of quality per game.
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In your first post, you said this:
But when it was pointed out to you that this really is no different than MU's past, or pretty much what all of the "big boys" do now, you changed it to this.
Which is a different argument entirely. Yeah, and while I would like the top level schools to play nothing but top level opponents, the economics of college sports say that will never happen. The "big boys" need as many home games as possible to maximize revenue...the "little boys" need to get on the road and cash some checks also to maximize revenue. It's a system that works for everyone.
This is it in a nutshell. There are reasons Boeheim schedules so many New York cupcakes. Of course the revenue playing at home is big ( and it may be more than if they play a "big boy" because the guarantee is not nearly as much).
It also helps recruiting because he games are in-state.
Finally, it is also to do a favor for small in-state schools (who pose no threat) because it is giving them a much bigger guaranteed payday than if that same small school played a NAIA or Div. 3 opponent.
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True, but that's true only for single-game tickets. I believe the original argument was referring to season ticket holders.
When buying season-tickets they are discounted.
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When buying season-tickets they are discounted.
Yep.
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Yes, we all know that. Facebook is where everyone is getting the dates from.
What does that have to do with past years, when UW-MU have played?
It doesn't but we're talking about a one day difference here (7th vs 8th) , despite the "second weekend".
2013 -- December 7th
2012 -- December 8th
2011 -- December 3rd
2010 -- December 11th
2009 -- December 12th
2008 -- December 6th
2007 -- December 8th
2006 -- December 9th
2005 -- December 10th
The game has been played within a 9 day every year since 2003 when it was played on the 20th. Having the game on the 14th would be an outlier.
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Look for me hob-nobbing, networking and socializing with friends at Southern & New Hamp and then find me at home pacing in front of the TV for those road games.
Right there with ya Lens. The Batch 19s in the Courtside Club are just as cold and I can always get a table in the bar for pre-game festivities.
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It doesn't but we're talking about a one day difference here (7th vs 8th) , despite the "second weekend".
2013 -- December 7th
2012 -- December 8th
2011 -- December 3rd
2010 -- December 11th
2009 -- December 12th
2008 -- December 6th
2007 -- December 8th
2006 -- December 9th
2005 -- December 10th
The game has been played within a 9 day every year since 2003 when it was played on the 20th. Having the game on the 14th would be an outlier.
The second weekend is the whole point. I know the weekends since I go if it's in Milwaukee or Madison.
College basketball is dirt in viewership to college football. Playing on the first weekend you are lost in the mix, because it's conference title games or the semi-finals in term of the SEC title game. MU at Wisconsin will be on BTN in all odds because it falls on the first weekend. Heck, the UW band wasn't at the game because the football team was in the B1G title game in 2011.
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BTW, the UW game will very likely be early afternoon. UW hockey is playing at home that weekend.
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This is a great schedule. Southern has enough to challenge again in the SWAC. The only real downsides to this schedule right now are Grambling and New Hampshire. For Grambling, though, they can't possibly be worse than last year. They could go 0-28 again, but I suspect they'll improve their win total by at least a couple. New Hampshire wasn't good and likely won't be again, but what are you gonna do? They aren't all going to be diamonds.
We have 3 spots left. I hope we fill them with either 3 buy games or 2 buy games and a home-and-home starting at the BC. I doubt that, as we have tOSU starting here. Either way, we get 16 home games, which is a respectable number. Get teams in the 100-200 range and we'll have a great non-conference schedule. Lose no more than 2 of those, win the league, get a 2/3 seed at worst. Lose 1, win the league, win the conference tourney, we might just be able to get a seed line higher.
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We have 3 spots left. I hope we fill them with either 3 buy games or 2 buy games and a home-and-home starting at the BC. I doubt that, as we have tOSU starting here. Either way, we get 16 home games, which is a respectable number. Get teams in the 100-200 range and we'll have a great non-conference schedule.
I wonder if Larry is still holding out hope for a ND home/home? This would be the year to do that at the BC with Bucky in Madtown.
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I wonder if Larry is still holding out hope for a ND home/home? This would be the year to do that at the BC with Bucky in Madtown.
That's my dream scenario, but I have to imagine if we were getting ND we'd have heard about it by now. Who knows...maybe they are waiting until late to announce it because they know it will be big news.
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Nov. 8 Southern
Nov. 12 Grambling
Nov. 16 Ohio State
Nov. 20 or 21 New Hampshire
Nov. 25 @Arizona State
Nov. 28, 29 & Dec .1. Wooden Legacy
Arizona State
Cal State Fullerton
College of Charleston
Creighton
George Washington
San Diego State
Miami
Dec. 7 @ Wisconsin
Dec. 14 IUPUI
Dec. 17 Ball State
Dec. 21 New Mexico in Las Vegas
Dec. 28 Samford
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Nov. 8 Southern
Nov. 12 Grambling
Nov. 16 Ohio State
Nov. 20 or 21 New Hampshire
Nov. 25 @Arizona State
Nov. 28, 29 & Dec .1. Wooden Legacy
Arizona State
Cal State Fullerton
College of Charleston
Creighton
George Washington
San Diego State
Miami
Dec. 7 @ Wisconsin
Dec. 14 IUPUI
Dec. 17 Ball State
Dec. 21 New Mexico in Las Vegas
Dec. 28 Samford
Here is the link for anyone that cares for it.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/marq-m-baskbl-sched.html
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Nov. 8 Southern
Nov. 12 Grambling
Nov. 16 Ohio State
Nov. 20 or 21 New Hampshire
Nov. 25 @Arizona State
Nov. 28, 29 & Dec .1. Wooden Legacy
Arizona State
Cal State Fullerton
College of Charleston
Creighton
George Washington
San Diego State
Miami
Dec. 7 @ Wisconsin
Dec. 14 IUPUI
Dec. 17 Ball State
Dec. 21 New Mexico in Las Vegas
Dec. 28 Samford
So we are in a tournament with 2 teams we are already playing in the regular season?
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So we are in a tournament with 2 teams we are already playing in the regular season?
Does that really matter to you?
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So we are in a tournament with 2 teams we are already playing in the regular season?
Creighton couldn't be helped, but the ASU thing did stand out.
As long as they are on the other side of the bracket, I am OK with that.
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Nov. 8 Southern
Nov. 12 Grambling
Nov. 16 Ohio State
Nov. 20 or 21 New Hampshire
Nov. 25 @Arizona State
Nov. 28, 29 & Dec .1. Wooden Legacy
Arizona State
Cal State Fullerton
College of Charleston
Creighton
George Washington
San Diego State
Miami
Dec. 7 @ Wisconsin
Dec. 14 IUPUI
Dec. 17 Ball State
Dec. 21 New Mexico in Las Vegas
Dec. 28 Samford
Interesting that there is no UWGB. I thought we still had one game left in that series.
Also sort of interesting that there are 5 teams on our schedule we have never played before: Southern, New Hampshire, Ball State, New Mexico and Samford. That seems like a lot to me.
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Does anyone know this year's home game for which the season ticket holders get first crack at other tickets? Last year I believe it was Wisconsin.
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Does anyone know this year's home game for which the season ticket holders get first crack at other tickets? Last year I believe it was Wisconsin.
I think STH get a first crack at all tickets, but I would imagine that if it were only one game it would be Ohio State. Not really any other big non-con games.
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Interesting that there is no UWGB. I thought we still had one game left in that series.
Also, weren't they suppose to renew the series with UW-Milwaukee after taking last season off.
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Also, weren't they suppose to renew the series with UW-Milwaukee after taking last season off.
Nothing was ever signed to play the Milwaukee Panthers.
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Does that really matter to you?
I'm not losing sleep over it, but it seemed strange.
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I'm not losing sleep over it, but it seemed strange.
Creighton & MU was in the field before the both became Big East member. Maybe MU couldn't pass up the H/H with ASU.
Check out Xavier's schedule, they have the same thing. Wake and Tennessee come to Xavier and all three are in a tourney together.
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Creighton & MU was in the field before the both became Big East member. Maybe MU couldn't pass up the H/H with ASU.
Check out Xavier's schedule, they have the same thing. Wake and Tennessee come to Xavier and all three are in a tourney together.
I get Creighton. ASU seemed strange. I'd rather have a Big 10 or ACC opponent. But whatever. No big deal.
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My only disappointment is that we're not playing Notre Dame. Maybe all of the major changes for both schools in a relatively short space of time made it too hard to get it done for next season, but I hope that in the future we can initiate a H&H with ND.
And, for that matter, I hope we can play Louisville, Syracuse and any other "old" Big East rival every year or two.
I know it's a new era, but that doesn't mean we can't bring along some of the best from the past.
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The issue with the schedule is that there are some teams that may have very poor W-L records, bringing down MU's RPI.
Nonetheless... just win, baby.
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My only disappointment is that we're not playing Notre Dame. Maybe all of the major changes for both schools in a relatively short space of time made it too hard to get it done for next season, but I hope that in the future we can initiate a H&H with ND.
And, for that matter, I hope we can play Louisville, Syracuse and any other "old" Big East rival every year or two.
I know it's a new era, but that doesn't mean we can't bring along some of the best from the past.
It didn't get done because Mike Brey didn't want it to get done.
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It didn't get done because Mike Brey didn't want it to get done.
Brey is no idiot. He figures to get his clock cleaned many, many times in the ACC this winter.
Why would he want to come to Milwaukee or have us come to him and have his head amputated twice in the next two years.
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My only disappointment is that we're not playing Notre Dame. Maybe all of the major changes for both schools in a relatively short space of time made it too hard to get it done for next season, but I hope that in the future we can initiate a H&H with ND.
And, for that matter, I hope we can play Louisville, Syracuse and any other "old" Big East rival every year or two.
I know it's a new era, but that doesn't mean we can't bring along some of the best from the past.
I certainly hope we can get ND and/or UL back on the schedule sometime soon. Big-name programs with strong followings, long-term rivalries. Both seem like no-brainers.
Cuse would be great too, but we were in the conference with them for such a short time that it'd be hard to say we developed a significant rivalry. I won't hold my breath....
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Ideally, we would play Wisconsin every year, Notre Dame every year, Louisville semi-yearly, Cincinnati once every few years, and then some of our other past Big East foes such as Pitt, 'Cuse, or UCONN once in a while.
I would also like to see us fill our "gimme" games with teams that are in the 100-200 RPI range. Look at what Minnesota accomplished last year in the RPI by just having an OOC schedule loaded with 80-150 RPI teams. Even when they were stinking it up in the Big Ten, they still maintained a top 25 RPI. We could play some teams that that we have a history with, and who usually hang around in the 100-200 RPI range, such as Evansville, Bradley, Drake, UWGB, Loyola (IL), Detroit, Valparaiso.
I can't stand seeing us play our throw-away games against teams like Grambling, Samford or Houston Baptist. Who are these schools? Why are we playing po-dunk sub-250 RPI schools from completely different regions of the country? I'd much rather try and play some teams that we have a history of playing, and who have a decent enough RPI, but should still be a W on our schedule.
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Brey is no idiot. He figures to get his clock cleaned many, many times in the ACC this winter.
Why would he want to come to Milwaukee or have us come to him and have his head amputated twice in the next two years.
Counting ND's clock-cleaning of us in last year's Big East tournament, we were only 7-6 against ND in the BE era.
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Ideally, we would play Wisconsin every year, Notre Dame every year, Louisville semi-yearly, Cincinnati once every few years, and then some of our other past Big East foes such as Pitt, 'Cuse, or UCONN once in a while.
I would also like to see us fill our "gimme" games with teams that are in the 100-200 RPI range. Look at what Minnesota accomplished last year in the RPI by just having an OOC schedule loaded with 80-150 RPI teams. Even when they were stinking it up in the Big Ten, they still maintained a top 25 RPI. We could play some teams that that we have a history with, and who usually hang around in the 100-200 RPI range, such as Evansville, Bradley, Drake, UWGB, Loyola (IL), Detroit, Valparaiso.
I can't stand seeing us play our throw-away games against teams like Grambling, Samford or Houston Baptist. Who are these schools? Why are we playing po-dunk sub-250 RPI schools from completely different regions of the country? I'd much rather try and play some teams that we have a history of playing, and who have a decent enough RPI, but should still be a W on our schedule.
The problem with previous years schedules at least is a lot of times we schedule teams who are in the mid 100s the year we schedule them, and then they become bad. I don't know when exactly we scheduled the teams, but its also a two way street. The teams we may want to schedule may not want to come here depending lots of reasons (get locations where their players' families can come, other history, bigger payout, etc). And once you move up to more well known teams, they are more likely to want you to come there at least once. We need a certain number of home games for budgetary reasons.
Right now we have at least five decent teams based on Ken Pom last year (Ohio State 6, Arizona State 69, Wisconsin 12, New Mexico 25, Southern 151, and IUPUI 258 but in the upper 100s previous 2 years) and four very bad teams. This doesn't include the tournament we are in. Thats not ideal, but its not that bad either.
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It didn't get done because Mike Brey didn't want it to get done.
Where was Brey quoted saying he wouldn't play Marquette?
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Where was Brey quoted saying he wouldn't play Marquette?
Nowhere, as far as I know. But I got it straight from the mouth of a person who would be considered an extremely reliable source in matters of MUBB scheduling.
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Nowhere, as far as I know. But I got it straight from the mouth of a person who would be considered an extremely reliable source in matters of MUBB scheduling.
Here, here to hearsay.
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Does anyone know this year's home game for which the season ticket holders get first crack at other tickets? Last year I believe it was Wisconsin.
Season ticket holders have first dibs to additional tickets to all games. There is usually a 10 ticket max for the UW game initially. I would bet it will be too early in the season to limit the sales of tOSU tickets. Early Nov. is the middle of the CFB season and most people besides us could care less of who is playing at the BC on a Sat afternoon.
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Ohio State could be a night.
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Ohio State should be a night.
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Here, here to hearsay.
I heard something similar.
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Here, here to hearsay.
It wasn't hearsay.
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Babe, you tight with Broecker?
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UW game is the 7th. Pearl Harbor Day.
We'll be facing our foes from across that big body of water between us. This time it's the Rock river.
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Nowhere, as far as I know. But I got it straight from the mouth of a person who would be considered an extremely reliable source in matters of MUBB scheduling.
Chico should learn to be more circumspect...
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Too many sub-250 teams for my liking. A lot has to break right for this schedule not to end up one covered with almost as many negatives as it has positives. If we lose 3 or more of our big games, our NC season could look very disappointing come January. Needed more 100-200 teams than sub-250s.
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I heard something similar.
As did I... but my intel came from ND's camp.
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As did I... but my intel came from ND's camp.
That MU is ducking ND??
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Too many sub-250 teams for my liking. A lot has to break right for this schedule not to end up one covered with almost as many negatives as it has positives. If we lose 3 or more of our big games, our NC season could look very disappointing come January. Needed more 100-200 teams than sub-250s.
Let's be more specific. Whether a team is sub-250 or in the high 100's doesn't matter. Their expected unadjusted win-loss record is what matters. The importance of this distinction is extraordinarily important.
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That MU is ducking ND??
What I was told was simply that the ADs were on board but one person was standing in the way. Given the source, I inferred that it was Buzz, but upon further conversation, no one was denying that Brey was the opposition. Putting that piece together with what Warriorchick was told (likely by the same person who has spilled the beans before), I'm 99% convinced it's Brey.
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Too many sub-250 teams for my liking. A lot has to break right for this schedule not to end up one covered with almost as many negatives as it has positives. If we lose 3 or more of our big games, our NC season could look very disappointing come January. Needed more 100-200 teams than sub-250s.
The only non-conference games that matter ARE the big ones.
Sweep Ohio State, Wisconsin, New Mexico, Arizona State, and win the Wooden Classic, and it won't matter who the other six non-conf wins were against (as long as we don't lose them).
Lose all 7 of those, and there is no amount of schedule engineering among the cupcakes (even if we sweep them) that will redeem us.
And in the last two years, if we had played (and beaten) a sub-250 team, instead of playing (and losing) to UWGB or LSU, we would have been mathematiclly better off in the RPI.
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What I was told was simply that the ADs were on board but one person was standing in the way. Given the source, I inferred that it was Buzz, but upon further conversation, no one was denying that Brey was the opposition. Putting that piece together with what Warriorchick was told (likely by the same person who has spilled the beans before), I'm 99% convinced it's Brey.
So, because someone didn't prove a negative it allowed for conviction?
I'm sure there's an Irishchick on the NDNation board writing she got it straight from the mouth of a person who would be considered an extremely reliable source in matters of NDBB scheduling that Buzz is ducking it. So, which one is hearsay and which one is gospel?
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The only non-conference games that matter ARE the big ones.
Sweep Ohio State, Wisconsin, New Mexico, Arizona State, and win the Wooden Classic, and it won't matter who the other six non-conf wins were against (as long as we don't lose them).
Lose all 7 of those, and there is no amount of schedule engineering among the cupcakes (even if we sweep them) that will redeem us.
And in the last two years, if we had played (and beaten) a sub-250 team, instead of playing (and losing) to UWGB or LSU, we would have been mathematiclly better off in the RPI.
There is a happy medium.
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What I was told was simply that the ADs were on board but one person was standing in the way. Given the source, I inferred that it was Buzz, but upon further conversation, no one was denying that Brey was the opposition. Putting that piece together with what Warriorchick was told (likely by the same person who has spilled the beans before), I'm 99% convinced it's Brey.
As has been said many times, No Dick is the ultimate in arrogance!
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So, because someone didn't prove a negative it allowed for conviction?
I'm sure there's an Irishchick on the NDNation board writing she got it straight from the mouth of a person who would be considered an extremely reliable source in matters of NDBB scheduling that Buzz is ducking it. So, which one is hearsay and which one is gospel?
We will likely never know completely...I mean, it's just a message board.
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And in the last two years, if we had played (and beaten) a sub-250 team, instead of playing (and losing) to UWGB or LSU, we would have been mathematiclly better off in the RPI.
That's not true. Again, what your opponent's RPI is doesn't matter.
In fact, if MU would have hosted and beat up on #297 St. Peter's in 2011-12 instead of travelling to LSU and losing, MU's RPI would have been WORSE.
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So, because someone didn't prove a negative it allowed for conviction?
I'm sure there's an Irishchick on the NDNation board writing she got it straight from the mouth of a person who would be considered an extremely reliable source in matters of NDBB scheduling that Buzz is ducking it. So, which one is hearsay and which one is gospel?
Believe me or don't believe me, I really don't care.
But let me just say this: If you wrote down the names of all the people from whom you'd believe as truth anything they said about Marrquette/ND scheduling, I guarantee you that my source would be on that list.
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This is a great schedule.
We have 3 spots left. I hope we fill them with either 3 buy games or 2 buy games and a home-and-home starting at the BC.
'MU will host IUPUI (Dec. 14) and Ball State (Dec. 17) before facing New Mexico in Las Vegas on Dec. 21. The non-conference finale comes at home on Dec. 28 against Samford, coached by former Marquette assistant coach Bennie Seltzer.'
So we added the 3 buy games as predicted.
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So, because someone didn't prove a negative it allowed for conviction?
I'm sure there's an Irishchick on the NDNation board writing she got it straight from the mouth of a person who would be considered an extremely reliable source in matters of NDBB scheduling that Buzz is ducking it. So, which one is hearsay and which one is gospel?
You completely missed the point, but no matter... no one here is telling you what to believe (EDIT - my signature line notwithstanding). We're merely sharing our perspective(s). Honestly, it's not like we've got Wikileak-level stuff here; if you went down to the Al, introduced yourself as an alum to a staffer of your choice, and asked what the deal was with not having ND on the schedule was, you'd probably get a straight answer.
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Is this a true statement?
You hurt your RPI, if you win and you help your RPI, if you lose.
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Is this a true statement?
You hurt your RPI, if you win and you help your RPI, if you lose.
Looks pretty spot-on to me.
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Is this a true statement?
You hurt your RPI, if you win and you help your RPI, if you lose.
It certainly can be.
There are several variables. Most importantly, (a) where you play (home/away/neutral) and (b) the win-loss record of your opponent.
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You completely missed the point, but no matter... no one here is telling you what to believe (EDIT - my signature line notwithstanding). We're merely sharing our perspective(s). Honestly, it's not like we've got Wikileak-level stuff here; if you went down to the Al, introduced yourself as an alum to a staffer of your choice, and asked what the deal was with not having ND on the schedule was, you'd probably get a straight answer.
Hey, sounds great. Thanks.
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All right, here is why I hate cupcakes on our schedule.
1) There is no upside. If we win, big deal, we were supposed to win. If we lose, we risk our season. As I noted earlier, Green Bay last year was an embarrassment. The only good thing about losing to Green Bay was Brian Wardle is head coach. We slipped against a crappy mid-major when it mattered once -- Miami of Ohio in 1978 (note-- it was not our choice to play them!!!) and our program went in a 15 to 20 year tailspin.
2) For all of the crap that "it is about money," baloney. If we replaced Southern, Grambling any other sub-150 team on our schedule, with even the bottom half of the Big 10, SEC or ACC, we'd be better off. We'd get more of a game and we'd draw a much larger crowd. Look at the LSU game last year, for example.
3) With the loss of Louisville, the Huggie Bear (man, I miss him), Cincinnati, UConn, Pitt and the Irish, our noncon schedule becomes even more important. I'm not as down on our conference schedule as most people seem to be, but I admit we're not thrown into the fire every night the way we were last year, or the year before. Quality noncon games ceratinly would make up for the loss of these teams. In fact, I'd argue Louisville, ND and Cincy are traditional Marquette opponents going back decades. We ought to be playing them and boosting our RPI when we beat them.
4) I think we can get ready for conference play by playing real teams.
So, if Big Boys don't play big boys, they should!
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That's not true. Again, what your opponent's RPI is doesn't matter.
In fact, if MU would have hosted and beat up on #297 St. Peter's in 2011-12 instead of travelling to LSU and losing, MU's RPI would have been WORSE.
Maybe so, but there are a lot of teams between 250+ where we would have been better off. The point is that having big wins matter more than RPI.
For example, strictly according to the RPI, our #13 rank should have made us 4 seed. We moved up to a 3 for reasons other than our RPI--winning the BE and several impressive wins--NC over Wisconsin, Georgetown, Pitt and Syracuse.
RPI #12 Memphis should have been a 3-seed--they engineered a very Brew-approved non-conference schedule that beefed up on top 100 and 100 to 200 non-conference opponents.
So why did they not get a 3 seed? Well, losing to VCU, Minny, UL and Xavier in non-conference didn't help. And they had nobody remotely close to UW, GU, Pitt and Syracuse on the win side.
Brew's theory suggests that Memphis would have had a better seed if only they scheduled #190 Charleston Southern and #105 Tennessee State instead of #319 Austin Peay and #312 Tennessee Martin.
His theory doesn't explain why--having already beefed up their schedule to achieve a #12 RPI, beefing it up further would have any different result. Memphis DID that, had a better RPI, and got stuck with an 8-seed becuase they had no quality wins.
When it came down to seedings, Memphis better RPI didn't matter. Marquette's big-time wins did. We had them, Memphis didn't.
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All right, here is why I hate cupcakes on our schedule.
1) There is no upside. If we win, big deal, we were supposed to win. If we lose, we risk our season. As I noted earlier, Green Bay last year was an embarrassment. The only good thing about losing to Green Bay was Brian Wardle is head coach.
It was no that big of an embarassment and it probably did not cost us anything. I think we still would of been a three seed, if Thomas had hit the shot to win the game. However, early road games are very hard to win so it would make sense to play the toughest teams possible early on the road to make your scheule look better.
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I am not going to complain about the schedule at all...A road trip to Madison and the NCAA Tournament make it all worth it.
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The Milwaukee Bucks schedule is out, so how does this open the door for times for MU home games on Saturday's. Still waiting on the Admirals schedule.
Nov. 16 vs Ohio State will be a day game. Bucks play at the BC at night. Game might fall down to FS2 for the game.
Dec. 14-IUPUI, no Bucks
Dec. 28-Samford, day game. Bucks play at the BC at night.
Jan. 4- no Bucks
Jan. 11 no Bucks
Jan. 18- no Bucks
Jan. 25- Bucks play at the BC at night.
Feb 1- no Bucks
Feb 8- Bucks play at the BC at night
Feb 15- All Star Weekend
Feb. 22- Bucks play at the BC at night.
March 1- Bucks play at the BC at night.
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The Milwaukee Bucks schedule is out, so how does this open the door for times for MU home games on Saturday's. Still waiting on the Admirals schedule.
Nov. 16 vs Ohio State will be a day game. Bucks play at the BC at night. Game might fall down to FS2 for the game.
Dec. 14-IUPUI, no Bucks
Dec. 28-Samford, day game. Bucks play at the BC at night.
Jan. 4- no Bucks
Jan. 11 no Bucks
Jan. 18- no Bucks
Jan. 25- Bucks play at the BC at night.
Feb 1- no Bucks
Feb 8- Bucks play at the BC at night
Feb 15- All Star Weekend
Feb. 22- Bucks play at the BC at night.
March 1- Bucks play at the BC at night.
Pretty sure hockey has priority over MU. So I'd expect the Admirals to grab many of those dates. But I wouldn't be shocked to see some marquee conference games work their way toward a later afternoon, early evening start to accommodate FS1. I wonder if there's conversation/negotiation behind the scenes that takes place.
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The Milwaukee Bucks schedule is out, so how does this open the door for times for MU home games on Saturday's. Still waiting on the Admirals schedule.
Nov. 16 vs Ohio State will be a day game. Bucks play at the BC at night. Game might fall down to FS2 for the game.
Man I was really hoping that game would be at night...
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Pretty sure hockey has priority over MU. So I'd expect the Admirals to grab many of those dates. But I wouldn't be shocked to see some marquee conference games work their way toward a later afternoon, early evening start to accommodate FS1. I wonder if there's conversation/negotiation behind the scenes that takes place.
Not positive but I thought the Admirals lost their #2 slotting when the Pettit Estate sold the team.
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Where is UW-Milwaukee...I so want to play them again
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Marq hoopers coming to Cali in November and Vegas in December, good opportunity for the West Coast alums to get out and see some hoops, looking forward to the short roadies from NorCal
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Where is UW-Milwaukee...I so want to play them again
The impression I got after the UWGB loss is that we likely won't see either of them on the schedule any time soon.
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The impression I got after the UWGB loss is that we likely won't see either of them on the schedule any time soon.
With the loss of ND, L'ville, UC, Uconn, Syracuse & Pitt, MU can't give up home games to be playing at any mid-major. They will be doing H/H's with power schools.
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The impression I got after the UWGB loss is that we likely won't see either of them on the schedule any time soon.
Good. ;D
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Where is UW-Milwaukee...I so want to play them again
Marquette is always going against the best interests of college basketball in the state of Wisconsin. Why is Buzz so afraid?
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Nov. 16 vs Ohio State will be a day game. Bucks play at the BC at night. Game might fall down to FS2 for the game.
We could move the game to prime time if we played the game on a boat
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Marquette is always going against the best interests of college basketball in the state of Wisconsin. Why is Buzz so afraid?
I don't think we should play UW-Milwaukee. I thought Crean made a big mistake signing up for that series to play again. It's been beaten to death, does us little good to play it in my opinion. Others see it differently.
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@MarquetteMBB: Rare opportunity during #mubb conference schedule should be announced this week.
Not sure what this is about...maybe a high profile non-con game to be added to the conference portion of the schedule? Possibly replacing one of the buy games?
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Not sure what this is about...maybe a high profile non-con game to be added to the conference portion of the schedule? Possibly replacing one of the buy games?
I think everyone might be getting their hopes up here. It could be something lame like 3 consecutive home conference games, a couple of Saturday night conferences games in a row...both of those would meet the "rare opportunity" criteria. Is it any coincedence that this tweet came out the same day the Bucks released their schedule?? MU knowing what days/times the Bucks had at home, could have simply and quickly scheduled some Saturday night games, specifically in January when there are three open Saturday nights.
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I can't wait to find out what it is!
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Marquette is always going against the best interests of college basketball in the state of Wisconsin. Why is Buzz so afraid?
Maybe it's because the State of Wisconsin has no concern for the interests of Marquette basketball.
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I don't think we should play UW-Milwaukee. I thought Crean made a big mistake signing up for that series to play again. It's been beaten to death, does us little good to play it in my opinion. Others see it differently.
Agreed---Load up with the big boys even if on the road.
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Agreed---Load up with the big boys even if on the road.
You're always going to have buy games. It's stupid to think or suggest otherwise. But the Milwaukee and Green Bay games are more of a no-win situation. Win and at best you were supposed to anyway and at worst you are a bully beating up on the weaker local teams. Lose and you are a laughing stock and hear about it for years. If we played UIC, Valpo, or any other weak sister type school, you wouldn't see the same stigma attached to the games.
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You're always going to have buy games. It's stupid to think or suggest otherwise. But the Milwaukee and Green Bay games are more of a no-win situation. Win and at best you were supposed to anyway and at worst you are a bully beating up on the weaker local teams. Lose and you are a laughing stock and hear about it for years. If we played UIC, Valpo, or any other weak sister type school, you wouldn't see the same stigma attached to the games.
We were a Dominic James buzzer beater away from getting embarassed by Valpo.
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St. John's vs. Marquette on February 1st in the garden as part of a tripple header.
Next Game Georgetown vs. Michigan St followed by
Knicks vs. Miami Heat.
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So, MU is playing at road game at MGS versus St. John's, followed by G'town & Michigan State. Plus, the NBA game at night has nothing to do with the two college games. ::)
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So, MU is playing at road game at MGS versus St. John's, followed by G'town & Michigan State. Plus, the NBA game at night has nothing to do with the two college games. ::)
MU is playing in New York on Super Bowl Saturday. I like that.
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MU is playing in New York on Super Bowl Saturday. I like that.
The coverage of the game will be greater due to the triple- header. Attendance...?
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It's really not a tripleheader. You will need two different tickets for the event.
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So will I need a tablet or a laptop to watch this game on the plane to Montego Bay Feb. 1? 8-)
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We were a Dominic James buzzer beater away from getting embarassed by Valpo.
And if we had, no one in the state of Wisconsin would remember it a year later, much less the eternity that a loss to Milwaukee or Green Bay would (will) last. When was the last time you heard anyone talking about the North Dakota State game?
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And if we had, no one in the state of Wisconsin would remember it a year later, much less the eternity that a loss to Milwaukee or Green Bay would (will) last. When was the last time you heard anyone talking about the North Dakota State game?
We lost to UWGB (at home!) in the '94 (Sweet 16) and '95 (NIT Runner Up) seasons. I don't think anyone remembers those years as years we lost to UWGB.
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We were a Dominic James buzzer beater away from getting embarassed by Valpo.
As iI remember it James scored 17 points in a row.
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MU fans will have a hard time understanding that the home schedule will be nothing compared to what it once was. The new Big East has GTown and Villy, the rest is nothing, add the bad
home games in Nov. and Dec. and you the fans will be getting ripped off. Losing Pitt, Louey, ND, Syracuse are big time games that will be missed.
I understand the need for buy games. Every team does it. I agree completely on the games we lose as a result of NBE.
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MU fans will have a hard time understanding that the home schedule will be nothing compared to what it once was. The new Big East has GTown and Villy, the rest is nothing, add the bad
home games in Nov. and Dec. and you the fans will be getting ripped off. Losing Pitt, Louey, ND, Syracuse are big time games that will be missed.
It'll lack the traditional major powers coming in. But I think you underestimate how quickly people will develop emotional rivalries with some of the new schools. I mean most people that I know had XU or Creighton or Butler on their short list before landing at Marquette and because the schools are so similar rivalries will develop and make the games big.
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And if we had, no one in the state of Wisconsin would remember it a year later, much less the eternity that a loss to Milwaukee or Green Bay would (will) last. When was the last time you heard anyone talking about the North Dakota State game?
December 2012.
In a discussion on just how poor it was for the 12-13 squad of Warriors to lose a game to Green Bay, many people brought up the failure of Tom Crean to beat a North Dakota State team in the Bradley Center. Both losses have long shelf lives.
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MU is playing in New York on Super Bowl Saturday. I like that.
And Fox has the Super Bowl broadcast...
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And Fox has the Super Bowl broadcast...
Hopefully it won't turn out the way it did last year when MU - Louisville was "the only game on."
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http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/080813aaa.html
Courtesy of FOX Sports’ landmark 12-year multi-platform media rights agreement with the BIG EAST Conference beginning this academic year, FOX Sports 1 is carrying a spectacular SUPER SATURDAY HOOPS doubleheader on Saturday, Feb. 1, featuring Marquette vs. St. John’s (12:30 PM ET) and Michigan State vs. Georgetown (3:00 PM), live from legendary Madison Square Garden in New York City on the eve of Super Bowl XLVIII.
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December 2012.
In a discussion on just how poor it was for the 12-13 squad of Warriors to lose a game to Green Bay, many people brought up the failure of Tom Crean to beat a North Dakota State team in the Bradley Center. Both losses have long shelf lives.
Actually, that proves my point. No one talks about the ND State game unless it's when there's another game to compare it to, and you never hear ND State fans trying to rub that one in because you never actually meet ND State fans.
Bad losses are bad losses, they have always and will always happen, but a local bad loss is going to stick in the craw a lot more permanently than a loss to someone 500 miles away that no one cares about the next season.
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So, they're probably going to get to go to the Super Bowl as part of that thing, huh?
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And if we had, no one in the state of Wisconsin would remember it a year later, much less the eternity that a loss to Milwaukee or Green Bay would (will) last. When was the last time you heard anyone talking about the North Dakota State game?
To me the UWGB game will always be "the bad loss the year we won the BE and got to the Elite 8."
IOW, it was ultimately meaningless.
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So, with Super Saturdays and the chance for these double headers at MSG, I assume the attendance and hype helps the BE fulfill its contract obligations with MSG as well. SJU didn't even play all its games at the Gardnen in the old BE. Fox is nailing it out of the box. Haven't heard much lately from the Angry Old Men of the ACC.
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BIG EAST Conf@bigeastconf6h
SUPER SATURDAY HOOPS doubleheader announced by @FOXSports on Feb. 1 in MSG. MU at St. John's & Hoyas vs. MSU. http://go.mu.edu/13JfsUk
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Ya, thanks! BC Bat posted it at 11:00.