brewcity 77, where are you? You've always put a lot of time and effort into gloating when you've been right and pointing out when others have been wrong (including me on a few occasions), even several months after the fact. Looks like the tables are turned this time, huh?
You consistently argued that Blue would be drafted, even guaranteed it in your signature block, copied below. Are you going to change it? You even said Vander was 20,000 times better than Russ Smith. I don't think Vander is even 20,000 times better than me. But it takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. And yes, keefe, it takes an even bigger man to take a bullet on a combat tour but that's not the point here.
"Tweet1000. I said MU to NCAAs Dec19, won beer bet on MU winning BEast,
& made E8 pick. Now I guarantee @Vander13lue gets drafted #mubb"
Quote from: frozena pizza on June 28, 2013, 08:41:39 AM
brewcity 77, where are you? You've always put a lot of time and effort into gloating when you've been right and pointing out when others have been wrong (including me on a few occasions), even several months after the fact. Looks like the tables are turned this time, huh?
Who's doing the gloating now?
As a fan, are you happy that Vander did not get drafted? Or are you just overjoyed that Brew was wrong?
Quote from: leever on June 28, 2013, 08:51:03 AM
Who's doing the gloating now?
As a fan, are you happy that Vander did not get drafted? Or are you just overjoyed that Brew was wrong?
I'm guessing this. The poster referenced is an insufferable d-bag who cherry picks random sentences to form some sort of an all-knowing stance where his only real purpose is to "shame" people who he feels are lesser MU fans than he.
That written, it's definitely better then reading his fiction on Jurgen Klinsmann and his time at Bayern.
Quote from: frozena pizza on June 28, 2013, 08:41:39 AM
brewcity 77, where are you? You've always put a lot of time and effort into gloating when you've been right and pointing out when others have been wrong (including me on a few occasions), even several months after the fact. Looks like the tables are turned this time, huh?
You consistently argued that Blue would be drafted, even guaranteed it in your signature block, copied below. Are you going to change it? You even said Vander was 20,000 times better than Russ Smith. I don't think Vander is even 20,000 times better than me. But it takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. And yes, keefe, it takes an even bigger man to take a bullet on a combat tour but that's not the point here.
"Tweet1000. I said MU to NCAAs Dec19, won beer bet on MU winning BEast,
& made E8 pick. Now I guarantee @Vander13lue gets drafted #mubb"
You my friend must a live a sad, and little life. Hope writing this post brightened your day.
Quote from: frozena pizza on June 28, 2013, 08:41:39 AM
brewcity 77, where are you? You've always put a lot of time and effort into gloating when you've been right and pointing out when others have been wrong (including me on a few occasions), even several months after the fact. Looks like the tables are turned this time, huh?
You consistently argued that Blue would be drafted, even guaranteed it in your signature block, copied below. Are you going to change it? You even said Vander was 20,000 times better than Russ Smith. I don't think Vander is even 20,000 times better than me. But it takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. And yes, keefe, it takes an even bigger man to take a bullet on a combat tour but that's not the point here.
"Tweet1000. I said MU to NCAAs Dec19, won beer bet on MU winning BEast,
& made E8 pick. Now I guarantee @Vander13lue gets drafted #mubb"
Classless.
More importantly, where is Brew? Haven't seen him around in awhile.
Hey c'mon man. Leave Brew alone. We all make predictions that do not pan out. Like I predicted that OX was good when he was a frosh and was crucified by many. And JMan predicting that we will a national title in the next 10 years if Buzz stays. These are just fans following their dreams.
And then there is Otule= Hibbert. Who really knows? Aina?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on June 28, 2013, 09:10:23 AM
More importantly, where is Brew? Haven't seen him around in awhile.
Going along with the
thème du fil... anyone ever noticed how we don't ever see Chicos and Brew77 in the same place at the same time?
Quote from: Benny B on June 28, 2013, 09:20:15 AM
Going along with the thème du fil... anyone ever noticed how we don't ever see Chicos and Brew77 in the same place at the same time?
Hmmmmm.....
Quote from: Benny B on June 28, 2013, 09:20:15 AM
Going along with the thème du fil... anyone ever noticed how we don't ever see Chicos and Brew77 in the same place at the same time?
Well done! So, by the way, I'm about to take a little vacation and I suspect Brew will be back around that time. ;)
This is kinda d-baggy.
We are all happy Brew got that one prediction right!
He's been around this summer, but not nearly as often (it seems) as during the season.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 28, 2013, 09:18:41 AM
Hey c'mon man. Leave Brew alone. We all make predictions that do not pan out. Like I predicted that OX was good when he was a frosh and was crucified by many. And JMan predicting that we will a national title in the next 10 years if Buzz stays. These are just fans following their dreams.
And then there is Otule= Hibbert. Who really knows? ain't I dim?
I see what was done there.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 28, 2013, 09:18:41 AM
Hey c'mon man. Leave Brew alone. We all make predictions that do not pan out. Like I predicted that OX was good when he was a frosh and was crucified by many. And JMan predicting that we will a national title in the next 10 years if Buzz stays. These are just fans following their dreams.
And then there is Otule= Hibbert. Who really knows? ain't I dim?
Exactly. Brew will be around and stick up for himself.
Just like next year when I crucify Moomoo for the Otule draft position, but Moomoo has stuck to his guns and takes it like a man. Brew will do the same.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on June 28, 2013, 08:57:18 AM
I'm guessing this. The poster referenced is an insufferable d-bag who cherry picks random sentences to form some sort of an all-knowing stance where his only real purpose is to "shame" people who he feels are lesser MU fans than he.
That written, it's definitely better then reading his fiction on Jurgen Klinsmann and his time at Bayern.
You have me confused with someone else. I've never said anything about that.
Quote from: reinko on June 28, 2013, 08:59:07 AM
You my friend must a live a sad, and little life. Hope writing this post brightened your day.
Exactly right.
I actually have no problem with this thread. If someone wants to call out Brew as being wrong, how is that different than Brew starting a thread to gloat about being right?
Lighten up guys. We've all been wrong at times - it's not a big deal and I'm not celebrating Vander not getting picked. Simply making a point to someone who has enjoyed pointing out when others have been wrong.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 28, 2013, 09:18:41 AM
Hey c'mon man. Leave Brew alone. We all make predictions that do not pan out. Like I predicted that OX was good when he was a frosh and was crucified by many. And JMan predicting that we will a national title in the next 10 years if Buzz stays. These are just fans following their dreams.
And then there is Otule= Hibbert. Who really knows? ain't I dim?
Right, and who stood by you willie, in your defense of Stephen A. Smith's commentary on Dwyane Wade's knee???
Quote from: nyg on June 28, 2013, 09:30:03 AM
Exactly. Brew will be around and stick up for himself.
Just like next year when I crucify Moomoo for the Otule draft position, but Moomoo has stuck to his guns and takes it like a man. Brew will do the same.
Thanks for the props nyg (I think, lol), and I still believe I will be smiling draft night 2014!
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on June 28, 2013, 09:43:19 AM
I actually have no problem with this thread. If someone wants to call out Brew as being wrong, how is that different than Brew starting a thread to gloat about being right?
This.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on June 28, 2013, 09:43:19 AM
I actually have no problem with this thread. If someone wants to call out Brew as being wrong, how is that different than Brew starting a thread to gloat about being right?
There's a difference between tooting your own horn and reveling in the errors of others. If those were the two choices I had in picking friends, I'd take pride over schadenfreude every day of the week.
Quote from: frozena pizza on June 28, 2013, 09:46:29 AM
Lighten up guys. We've all been wrong at times - it's not a big deal and I'm not celebrating Vander not getting picked. Simply making a point to someone who has enjoyed pointing out when others have been wrong.
If that was the case, I think most of us would be a little more tolerant.... but that's not the case here. When has Brew ever "enjoyed" pointing out the wrongs?
Quote from: Benny B on June 28, 2013, 09:20:15 AM
anyone ever noticed how we don't ever see Chicos and Brew77 in the same place at the same time?
I had an "infinity X infinity" reaction to this suggestion.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on June 28, 2013, 09:43:19 AM
I actually have no problem with this thread. If someone wants to call out Brew as being wrong, how is that different than Brew starting a thread to gloat about being right?
Correct.
If you are going to gloat about being correct on one prediction, then you should be ready to take heat for being wrong on another. We have all made stupid comments and predictions, the difference is not everyone makes a big deal out of it when they are correct.
And yes Benny B, go back and check, Brew did call out many people about their predictions, going so far as spending what had to be a lot of time going back and quoting each one.
Having said all that, Brew is one of the best posters on here and it is kind of douchey to call him out in this fashion.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on June 28, 2013, 09:43:19 AM
I actually have no problem with this thread. If someone wants to call out Brew as being wrong, how is that different than Brew starting a thread to gloat about being right?
Indeed. Brew created the mother of all "I told you so" threads when his BE prediction came true, where he called out every single person who ever "doubted" him.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=37122.msg469619
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on June 28, 2013, 10:20:59 AM
Indeed. Brew created the mother of all "I told you so" threads when his BE prediction came true, where he called out every single person who ever "doubted" him.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=37122.msg469619
I remember that clearly. Thought it was as stupid as this thread.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 28, 2013, 10:22:11 AM
I remember that clearly. Thought it was as stupid as this thread.
+1000
Didn't your mother ever teach you that two douchey threads don't make a good one?
Quote from: Benny B on June 28, 2013, 10:03:16 AM
There's a difference between tooting your own horn and reveling in the errors of others. If those were the two choices I had in picking friends, I'd take pride over schadenfreude every day of the week.
I agree. Pride is sometimes warranted. Schadenfreude, never.
Quote from: Benny B on June 28, 2013, 10:03:16 AM
There's a difference between tooting your own horn and reveling in the errors of others. If those were the two choices I had in picking friends, I'd take pride over schadenfreude every day of the week.
If that was the case, I think most of us would be a little more tolerant.... but that's not the case here. When has Brew ever "enjoyed" pointing out the wrongs?
Oh come on. You serious here? He's set himself for something like this for a while. I'm surprised there aren't more people calling him out. That thread was the paramount of insufferable.
Quote from: Benny B on June 28, 2013, 10:03:16 AM
When has Brew ever "enjoyed" pointing out the wrongs?
I'm assuming you forgot to use teal.
I'm ok with it.
Some people LOVE to pontificate and predict.
Being held accountable for what you write is good.
If I say something stupid, feel free to call me out months/years later.
EDIT:
Just to add to this, we all hold 19 yr old kids accountable for split second decisions they make on a basketball court. I think it's more than ok for chubby, middle aged dudes to be held accountable for what they type with their keyboards.
Quote from: hairyworthen on June 28, 2013, 10:13:44 AM
Correct.
If you are going to gloat about being correct on one prediction, then you should be ready to take heat for being wrong on another. We have all made stupid comments and predictions, the difference is not everyone makes a big deal out of it when they are correct.
And yes Benny B, go back and check, Brew did call out many people about their predictions, going so far as spending what had to be a lot of time going back and quoting each one.
Having said all that, Brew is one of the best posters on here and it is kind of douchey to call him out in this fashion.
What I thought you might be referring to is called "debate"... using facts, data, stats, expert opinion and analysis in presenting an adversarial position. What this thread represents, however, is the douchiness of calling someone out after the fact, not for the benefit of understanding
why an error was/wasn't made, but seemingly for the sole purpose of the self-gratification derived from pointing out that an error
was made.
Again... I'm not saying that Brew has never disagreed with anyone, I'm simply saying that I don't recall any incident where he "enjoyed" pointing out an error... but then I read this:
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on June 28, 2013, 10:20:59 AM
Indeed. Brew created the mother of all "I told you so" threads when his BE prediction came true, where he called out every single person who ever "doubted" him.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=37122.msg469619
I'm going to go ahead and toss out a
mea culpa here, as while I recall the thread, it was a TLDNR for me at the time. But now, having read it, on the surface I can certainly appreciate why some see only the slant of "ha ha, you were wrong, I was right," but as I look at the genesis of the topic, I see an incident where Brew wasn't so much calling people out for disagreeing with him as he was bringing to light the fact that we have waaaaaayyyyyy too many chicken littles on Scoop.
I'm all for a good ex-post debate about the analysis that supports whether a prediction was likely to be correct or incorrect, and I don't care for people who simply point out the mistakes of others strictly for their own enjoyment. But I absolutely HATE (despise, really) the chicken little mentality that plagues so many amongst the MU fan base. Therefore, I'm going to recuse myself from further contribution to the thread at hand because irrespective of the facts, my bias regarding the one piece of evidence presented is seriously hampering my objectivity on the matter.
Love this thread. If you can't call someone out on a message board, what's the point?
I've been incredibly busy between work and another online side project this summer, but I was definitely wrong on this one. I felt confident Blue would do what he needed to do to get picked, and looking at a lot of the other guys in the field felt he was better than quite a few that were projected as first rounders. Guys like BJ Young, Michael Snaer, and CJ Leslie all looked like worse prospect to me than Blue. I guess at least they didn't get drafted either.
Also, I expected either a thread or comments. I'm not offended and got it wrong on this one. I sincerely hope no one is taking joy at Blue not getting drafted but I'm not going to shy away from taking my lumps when I'm wrong.
As far as deserving this, I probably have worse than this coming to me. But I would always rather be wrong because I'm overly optimistic about our players and team than be wrong because I have no hope or faith in the guys that are out there representing us. Here's hoping Van can find his way into the league despite going undrafted.
I agree, Victor. It goes both ways. Hopefully Brew will be back to defend himself. I must admit that I am surprised Blue was not drafted and will watch closely to see where he is playing next season. Hopefully it works out for him.
Quote from: Victor McCormick on June 28, 2013, 11:05:10 AM
Love this thread. If you can't call someone out on a message board, what's the point?
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzzm1pLRX91r9qby6o1_500.gif)
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 28, 2013, 11:11:45 AM
As far as deserving this, I probably have worse than this coming to me. But I would always rather be wrong because I'm overly optimistic about our players and team than be wrong because I have no hope or faith in the guys that are out there representing us. Here's hoping Van can find his way into the league despite going undrafted.
Overstating things already are we?
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 28, 2013, 11:11:45 AM
But I would always rather be wrong because I'm overly optimistic about our players and team than be wrong because I have no hope or faith in the guys that are out there representing us. Here's hoping Van can find his way into the league despite going undrafted.
I've had my battles with Brew..and others of course....but we can all respect the above, and should have a similar attitude toward the program we all love greatly.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 28, 2013, 10:22:11 AM
I remember that clearly. Thought it was as stupid as this thread.
Yes. Both threads are/were stupid.
Taken like a man brew and I respect that. Appreciate the optimism you bring here and we all wish Vander nothing but the best in his journey.
Quote from: Benny B on June 28, 2013, 09:20:15 AM
Going along with the thème du fil... anyone ever noticed how we don't ever see Chicos and Brew77 in the same place at the same time?
I place Chicos as Dr. Jeckle, Brew has the mean streak. ;D
Loved the whole thread. I wonder if we'll get any quotes from Vander. Hope he lands on a roster in the next couple years.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on June 28, 2013, 10:35:46 AM
I'm ok with it.
Some people LOVE to pontificate and predict.
Being held accountable for what you write is good.
If I say something stupid, feel free to call me out months/years later.
I love ya, Guns, but it won't happen. Bold predictions just aren't in your DNA. The ball has to be at the backstop before your foot leaves first base. All good,though - the "on the other hand" guy is valuable in any discussion.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 28, 2013, 11:52:55 AM
Yes. Both threads are/were stupid.
Au contraire. Both threads are enjoyable reading, and Brew's was epic.
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 28, 2013, 11:11:45 AM
I've been incredibly busy between work and another online side project this summer, but I was definitely wrong on this one.
Some people call them "online side projects." Others just call it "downloading German pornography."
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on June 28, 2013, 12:47:35 PM
Some people call them "online side projects." Others just call it "downloading German pornography."
German
Midget pornography...get it right, jeez ;)
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 28, 2013, 12:54:15 PM
German Midget pornography...get it right, jeez ;)
Little Person....get it right, jeez
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 28, 2013, 12:54:15 PM
German Midget pornography...get it right, jeez ;)
Don't you just hate it when it takes you 8 hours to download 20 minutes of German midget porn and it turns out to be German dwarf porn?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 28, 2013, 12:20:34 PM
I love ya, Guns, but it won't happen. Bold predictions just aren't in your DNA. The ball has to be at the backstop before your foot leaves first base. All good,though - the "on the other hand" guy is valuable in any discussion.
I didn't know how to say this in a nice way. :)
Quote from: Archies Bat on June 28, 2013, 01:12:46 PM
Little Person....get it right, jeez
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/happy/rolling-on-the-floor-laughing-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 28, 2013, 12:20:34 PM
I love ya, Guns, but it won't happen. Bold predictions just aren't in your DNA. The ball has to be at the backstop before your foot leaves first base. All good,though - the "on the other hand" guy is valuable in any discussion.
Totally fair.
I'm not the "LOOK AT ME... BIG PREDICTION!!!" kind of guy.
It's just not how I roll.
If I'm confident something will happen, I'll say something. I don't have any specific or insider information with college basketball, so I don't make a lot of bold proclamations.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on June 28, 2013, 01:55:04 PM
Totally fair.
I'm not the "LOOK AT ME... BIG PREDICTION!!!" kind of guy.
It's just not how I roll.
If I'm confident something will happen, I'll say something. I don't have any specific or insider information with college basketball, so I don't make a lot of bold proclamations.
That's a pretty bold prediction right there.