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Title: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: LAZER on June 26, 2013, 04:32:28 PM
According to Eric Bossi on Twitter

Update: Looks confirmed
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Pakuni on June 26, 2013, 04:36:19 PM
And the Bullseye Bros.

"It is now official: 6'7 2014 forward Malek Harris has committed to Marquette & HC Buzz Williams per @wolves10. Story forthcoming."

Welcome aboard, Malek!

Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: keefe on June 26, 2013, 04:39:01 PM
Jerry Brewer is saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: nyg on June 26, 2013, 04:39:36 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Malek-Harris-139675

FYI his Rivals writeup, but I guess he blew up.  Will probably change.  

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=6257846

FYI, his Scout writeup, four star.....
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Pakuni on June 26, 2013, 04:41:56 PM
And he confirms on Twitter (of course):

"officially committed to Marquette to be a Golden Eagle!!!!"
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on June 26, 2013, 04:43:55 PM
SWEET!  Welcome Malek!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: wadesworld on June 26, 2013, 04:44:05 PM
Couldn't have called this...
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: foreverwarriors on June 26, 2013, 04:44:41 PM
Quote from: nyg on June 26, 2013, 04:39:36 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Malek-Harris-139675

FYI his Rivals writeup, but I guess he blew up.  Will probably change.  


https://twitter.com/ebosshoops/status/350004688718004224

‏@ebosshoops: Malek Harris will be moving into the national top 75 during tomorrow's update to the 2014 #Rivals150.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Retire54 on June 26, 2013, 04:46:37 PM
Looks like a great pick up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8jDPa0Au1E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEExfP_BUFg
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: nyg on June 26, 2013, 04:48:58 PM
Two schollies left for 2014?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: MUfan12 on June 26, 2013, 04:49:50 PM
Cohen won't be far behind.

Buzz is bringing in some big-time talent.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 26, 2013, 04:51:58 PM
Awesome start to the 2014 class!  Harris is exactly the kind of player that thrives under Buzz, can't wait til he gets to campus
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Pakuni on June 26, 2013, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on June 26, 2013, 04:44:05 PM
Couldn't have called this...

Don't get too full of yourself.
Jerry Meyer called it May 25.
http://cincinnati.247sports.com/Player/Malek-Harris-20691/PlayerInstitutionPredictions

FWIW, Jerry also predicts Sandy Cohen to MU.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: MUCrew on June 26, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
Awesome news!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Steve Buscemi on June 26, 2013, 04:56:52 PM
I look on twitter and see Duane Wilson and Nick Noskowiak showing this guy love just hours before he commits.  You can't teach that. You also can't beat it. Props to these type of guys Buzz has brought in and continues to bring in.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: BubbaWilliams on June 26, 2013, 04:58:39 PM
If Cohen commits, thats a lot of wing players. Get ready for some "Buzz Cuts." Its a great problem to have though.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: moomoo on June 26, 2013, 04:59:24 PM
Harris will play in the Big East 

Malek Harris

Malek Harris  By Brian Snow
National Recruiting Analyst
Posted Jun 26, 2013 


Marquette started off their 2014 in a big way with the commitment of four-star Malek Harris.

In his time at Marquette Head Coach Buzz Williams has built a culture of toughness. One player who defines the word is 6-foot-7 class of 2014 forward Malek Harris. The Orland Park (Ill) Sandburg product made the decision to pick Marquette on Wednesday.
With his athleticism, toughness, high motor, and ability to get to the rim using the dribble, Harris opened up eyes with his play this spring running with the Illinois Wolves. At the beginning of April it was mostly mid-major interest for Harris, but that all changed in a big way.

Schools such as Marquette, Purdue, Iowa, Creighton, DePaul, Missouri, and Kansas State all offered the versatile combo forward, but at the end of the day he decided to pick the Golden Eagles.

"Officially committed to be a Marquette Golden Eagle," said Harris via twitter.

Also Harris' AAU Coach with the Illinois Wolves, Mike Mullins, confirmed the commitment via text message.

Harris was recently elevated to four-star status and No. 76 in the country. He is the first commitment in the class for Marquette, and gives them the toughness and athleticism they love in their forwards.


Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Pakuni on June 26, 2013, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: BRMU23 on June 26, 2013, 04:58:39 PM
If Cohen commits, thats a lot of wing players. Get ready for some "Buzz Cuts." Its a great problem to have though.

I think Harris may ultimately be a player more in the mold of Steve Taylor than a pure wing. In Buzz's system, I expected he'd primarily be a four, in the way Jae and Jamil were/are fours. He'll have to get bigger for that, though.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Sunbelt15 on June 26, 2013, 05:04:13 PM
Visited today and commits the same day. Is that a first here?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: GGGG on June 26, 2013, 05:05:53 PM
Quote from: nyg on June 26, 2013, 04:48:58 PM
Two schollies left for 2014?

Three.

Otule, Gardner, Jamil and Jake are leaving.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: nyg on June 26, 2013, 05:11:10 PM
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 26, 2013, 05:05:53 PM
Three.

Otule, Gardner, Jamil and Jake are leaving.

Thanks.  

OK, Harris, then Cohen and then some bigs.  Great start, now they have to finish.  
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: NersEllenson on June 26, 2013, 05:19:06 PM
Welcome to MU Malek!  Looks like an ideal fit/Buzz kind of player...the next Jimmy Butler/Jae Crowder...and future 1st round draft pick.   ;D
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Tums Festival on June 26, 2013, 05:19:33 PM
Welcome to Marquette, Malek!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Groin_pull on June 26, 2013, 05:21:15 PM
A very nice addition to MU. Looks like he'll be in Rivals' top 75 when they update their list tomorrow.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: wadesworld on June 26, 2013, 05:25:22 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 26, 2013, 04:52:34 PM
Don't get too full of yourself.
Jerry Meyer called it May 25.
http://cincinnati.247sports.com/Player/Malek-Harris-20691/PlayerInstitutionPredictions

FWIW, Jerry also predicts Sandy Cohen to MU.


Damnit, Jerry!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 26, 2013, 05:36:50 PM
Im really liking the Illinois pipeline that were tapping into. We have Taylor from Simeon and now Harris a really talented suburban kid.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: marquette20 on June 26, 2013, 05:38:09 PM
 He must not know what conference we are in.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: MuMark on June 26, 2013, 05:58:09 PM
Purdue wanted him.....http://purdue.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=52&tid=189046083&mid=189046083&sid=892&style=2
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: muhoops1 on June 26, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
He's at the BBQ wearing a We Are Marquette Shirt.  Good sign.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: tower912 on June 26, 2013, 06:14:28 PM
So, if everything else remains status quo, we will have Harris, McKay, Juan, STjr and Burton up front.    Nice start.   A true 5 would be nice.    Awesome get.   
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 26, 2013, 06:26:39 PM
Quote from: muhoops1 on June 26, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
He's at the BBQ wearing a We Are Marquette Shirt.  Good sign.


Hope that's not a violation, hey?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 26, 2013, 06:37:20 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 26, 2013, 06:26:39 PM

Hope that's not a violation, hey?

Only if he's given extra sauce.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: MuMark on June 26, 2013, 06:53:54 PM
http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php/2011-08-04-18-06-26/1549-malek-harris-talks-marquette-verbal
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: wadesworld on June 26, 2013, 06:56:37 PM
Quote from: muhoops1 on June 26, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
He's at the BBQ wearing a We Are Marquette Shirt.  Good sign.

Do we really need any other sign from the weekend that he's enjoying himself beyond him committing to Marquette?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: classof70 on June 26, 2013, 07:15:58 PM
My son,  a SLU law alum confirms!!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: muvanwilder on June 26, 2013, 09:02:39 PM
Awesome! Congrats Malek!

I would love to see us add Cohen and a big like O'Mara to this class.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: muvanwilder on June 26, 2013, 09:06:50 PM
Quote from: BRMU23 on June 26, 2013, 04:58:39 PM
If Cohen commits, thats a lot of wing players. Get ready for some "Buzz Cuts." Its a great problem to have though.

Seriously?  That was quick.  This is the type of team Buzz wants; a lot of wings.  He's been known to play 4 wings at a time, and Cohen has stated he can play the 1,2, or 3.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: tower912 on June 26, 2013, 09:09:58 PM
http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php/2011-08-04-18-06-26/1549-malek-harris-talks-marquette-verbal

Aspires to be the next Jimmy or Jae.....
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 26, 2013, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: tower912 on June 26, 2013, 09:09:58 PM
http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php/2011-08-04-18-06-26/1549-malek-harris-talks-marquette-verbal

Aspires to be the next Jimmy or Jae.....

Lazar -> Jimmy -> Jae -> JWilson -> STaylor -> Harris

An unbroken string of sicknasty stretch 4 switchables. That's gettin' it done.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 26, 2013, 11:08:21 PM
Not that it matters, but ESPN has him as a 80 with Top100 cutoff being 81. I bet he's in the Top 100 in the next ranking based on commitment alone.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: AZWarrior on June 26, 2013, 11:18:24 PM
Now that he's committed to us, we can look forward to him receiving the customary "20 point MU bump".

Hopefully in a few years, I post this again about a different recruit, but no teal.   ;)
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on June 26, 2013, 11:24:04 PM
Nice! He isn't Looney, but I'm not going to complain. I'm confident Buzz will turn him into a very good player.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: rocky_warrior on June 26, 2013, 11:48:47 PM
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 26, 2013, 05:05:53 PM
Three.

Otule, Gardner, Jamil and Jake are leaving.

Correct...which means an update to the Scholarship table...

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8

Welcome Malek!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 26, 2013, 11:57:40 PM
Excellent pick up for us.

Welcome to the family Malek!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on June 27, 2013, 12:57:33 AM
Welcome to MU, young man.

Enjoy your senior year and see you in 1 years!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: tower912 on June 27, 2013, 06:02:33 AM
More notes about Malek...
http://ilprepbullseye.com/Harris_Marquette.html
http://www.hawkeyebasketballrecruiting.com/2013/05/malek-harris-stands-out.html
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on June 27, 2013, 06:54:12 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on June 26, 2013, 11:48:47 PM
Correct...which means an update to the Scholarship table...

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8

Welcome Malek!

Isn't Anderson back in the fold?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: GGGG on June 27, 2013, 06:58:57 AM
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on June 27, 2013, 06:54:12 AM
Isn't Anderson back in the fold?

Yes.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 07:16:03 AM
Don't know much about this kid, but he seems to be rising quickly and looks like a great addition. Good job by Chew and Autry, according to Bullseye. We now need to get a quality big. Keep up the great work, recruiters!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Sunbelt15 on June 27, 2013, 07:54:46 AM
Quote from: tower912 on June 26, 2013, 06:14:28 PM
So, if everything else remains status quo, we will have Harris, McKay, Juan, STjr and Burton up front.    Nice start.   A true 5 would be nice.    Awesome get.   

Someone told me, as long as they're listed as a 5, they are a true 5.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: GGGG on June 27, 2013, 08:34:15 AM
I think we need to mentally prepare ourselves for the possibility of no true post in 2014-15. Or at least a starter who isn't a true post.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 27, 2013, 08:58:04 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 27, 2013, 08:34:15 AM
I think we need to mentally prepare ourselves for the possibility of no true post in 2014-15. Or at least a starter who isn't a true post.

Agreed, that could potentially be the case, and if so, it would actually be a benefit to landing a stud 2015 player like Stone or Ellenson or Other.  And if it is the case, I have no doubt that we're so loaded at other positions that we would still compete for the conference championship and make at least the S16, in a reloading year that would be setting ourselves up for a national championship run with 1 additional piece.  That's where the program is at right now.  I urge everyone to take a step back and think about that.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: BCHoopster on June 27, 2013, 09:12:35 AM
Buzz will find 1 center somewhere because most teams can not offer that player a chance to start.  I disagree, one player in this country will see that.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 27, 2013, 09:20:37 AM
Quote from: BCHoopster on June 27, 2013, 09:12:35 AM
Buzz will find 1 center somewhere because most teams can not offer that player a chance to start.  I disagree, one player in this country will see that.

Most likely scenario (my dream scenario) if we don't get a great 2014 C this year is a one year grad transfer that sees 40 min available next year with weapons surrounding him at the 1-4 and the table set for a deep tourney run.  Then the 40 min immediately becomes available again for Stone/Ellenson/Other in the 2015 class.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: bilsu on June 27, 2013, 09:24:45 AM
Your do not need a big center, if you can get three quick athletic forwards who can rebound and play defense.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Pakuni on June 27, 2013, 09:33:11 AM
Quote from: BCHoopster on June 27, 2013, 09:12:35 AM
Buzz will find 1 center somewhere because most teams can not offer that player a chance to start.  I disagree, one player in this country will see that.

Agree.
Also think that whoever he lands isn't likely to scare off Stone or Ellenson.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 27, 2013, 08:34:15 AM
I think we need to mentally prepare ourselves for the possibility of no true post in 2014-15. Or at least a starter who isn't a true post.
Why should we accept that? probably because we are not Duke, Ky, Kansas or NC?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 09:38:13 AM
Quote from: bilsu on June 27, 2013, 09:24:45 AM
Your do not need a big center, if you can get three quick athletic forwards who can rebound and play defense.
How many rebounds per game should those three athletic quick forwards get per game; who guards the opposing team's big if they have one; and are we there with those three athletic quick forwards who can rebound (assuming that you mean significant rebounds)?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on June 27, 2013, 10:01:45 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 09:34:35 AM
Why should we accept that? probably because we are not Duke, Ky, Kansas or NC?

Ok, I don't accept it.

Now what?

Pitchforks? Torches?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: robertoc on June 27, 2013, 10:08:06 AM
Quote from: marquette20 on June 26, 2013, 05:38:09 PM
He must not know what conference we are in.
+1
Hah- beat me to it...
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: GGGG on June 27, 2013, 10:12:48 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 09:34:35 AM
Why should we accept that? probably because we are not Duke, Ky, Kansas or NC?


Because I would rather have five players who can play versus a substandard center. You and others are too focused on measurable a and not performance. McKay as a post may be the best option.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 27, 2013, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 27, 2013, 10:12:48 AM

Because I would rather have five players who can play versus a substandard center. You and others are too focused on measurable a and not performance. McKay as a post may be the best option.

Also, Buzz has had 3 years (4 including this upcoming year) with his own fully recruited roster.  In each of those seasons the opening day squad has had 2 true centers.  Buzz has publicly stated this is his goal for the roster.  Until that is not the case, why waste the breath/key strokes wailing about the need for centers?  We have them now.  We will have them in the future.  Breathe, people!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Pakuni on June 27, 2013, 10:22:16 AM
Chicago Sun-Times story on Harris commitment:

http://seasonpass.suntimes.com/news_article/show/267413?referrer_id=599124
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Newsdreams on June 27, 2013, 10:31:18 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 27, 2013, 10:22:16 AM
Chicago Sun-Times story on Harris commitment:

http://seasonpass.suntimes.com/news_article/show/267413?referrer_id=599124
Totaly sold!

"...The multi-faceted senior, who impressed this spring with the Illinois Wolves with his advanced ballhandling skills and a warrior mentality...."
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 27, 2013, 10:37:20 AM
I can't take credit for this, but a comparison I saw someone make and can't remember where is Will Yeguete from Florida.  6'7" rebounding machine with a high 2P%.  If he turns out like Yeguete I'd be more than pleased.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 27, 2013, 10:57:37 AM
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on June 26, 2013, 11:24:04 PM
Nice! He isn't Looney, but I'm not going to complain. I'm confident Buzz will turn him into a very good player.

In all likelihood, he'll be a much better player than Looney as a sophomore, junior and senior.  It's not hard to be better than a guy who isn't in college ball anymore.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 11:38:09 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 27, 2013, 10:12:48 AM

Because I would rather have five players who can play versus a substandard center. You and others are too focused on measurable a and not performance. McKay as a post may be the best option.
So who is the substandard center you are referring to? Otule/Gardner?  I would rather have 5 guys who can play than a substandard center. I also hope that McKay can play the post. But I continue to advocate getting a quality center, rather than having Hayward/Crowder/Ja. Wilson/Taylor play center. And believe me pal, I always focus on performance. And guess what? Measureables are part of performance. Or is performance in the eye of the beholder and you do not account for any measurable? Then why do we use statistics?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 11:44:21 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 09:34:35 AM
Why should we accept that? probably because we are not Duke, Ky, Kansas or NC?

Because there isn't a developing big-man on the team and we aren't in the running for a  top big-man. Unless you want a substandard freshmen starting, it isn't realistic at this point to have a project big-man coming in and starting his rookie year. By accepting it, we just mean the reality of our current situation. That said, the following year we have some solid hope of either one of the recruits developing as a sophomore or getting a stud freshmen.


You act like Lazar and our other switchables wasn't able to stop Hibbert when he was at Georgetown. High-intensity, team defense can over come missing a dominant big man. But then again you are the most fearful fan I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 11:38:09 AM
So who is the substandard center you are referring to? Otule/Gardner?  I would rather have 5 guys who can play than a substandard center. I also hope that McKay can play the post. But I continue to advocate getting a quality center, rather than having Hayward/Crowder/Ja. Wilson/Taylor play center. And believe me pal, I always focus on performance. And guess what? Measureables are part of performance. Or is performance in the eye of the beholder and you do not account for any measurable? Then why do we use statistics?
Otule was very substandard as a freshman (Gardner as a freshmen is below average). So even if we get a recruit like him next year, we will need to play small ball most of the game.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 27, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 11:38:09 AM
So who is the substandard center you are referring to? Otule/Gardner?  I would rather have 5 guys who can play than a substandard center. I also hope that McKay can play the post. But I continue to advocate getting a quality center, rather than having Hayward/Crowder/Ja. Wilson/Taylor play center. And believe me pal, I always focus on performance. And guess what? Measureables are part of performance. Or is performance in the eye of the beholder and you do not account for any measurable? Then why do we use statistics?

Your point is that Buzz is unable or unwilling to recruit the center position in a way that you find acceptable.  What's your solution?  Fire Buzz?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: bilsu on June 27, 2013, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 11:47:12 AM
Otule was very substandard as a freshman (Gardner as a freshmen is below average). So even if we get a recruit like him next year, we will need to play small ball most of the game.
Otule broke his foot his freshmen year, so we do not really know how his fisrt year would of turned out. I also would argue that Gardner was not below average as a freshmen. He was playing very well before he hurt his shoulder. I suspose you could point to his defense, but most freshmen are not good on the defensive end and that is why they do not play much.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: muwarrior69 on June 27, 2013, 12:02:02 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 26, 2013, 05:02:24 PM
I think Harris may ultimately be a player more in the mold of Steve Taylor than a pure wing. In Buzz's system, I expected he'd primarily be a four, in the way Jae and Jamil were/are fours. He'll have to get bigger for that, though.

From the picture in the Sun-Times he looks pretty well built to me.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Lennys Tap on June 27, 2013, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on June 27, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
Your point is that Buzz is unable or unwilling to recruit the center position in a way that you find acceptable.  What's your solution?  Fire Buzz?

Willie pines for the days of yore when MU had dominant bigs. Remember the good old days when 6' 5" Dwight Burke patrolled the middle as a 3 year starter? Wasn't long ago that our centers combined couldn't match what Otule or Gardner give us in half a game.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on June 27, 2013, 12:50:43 PM
Quote from: muhoops1 on June 26, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
He's at the BBQ wearing a We Are Marquette Shirt.  Good sign.



Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 26, 2013, 06:26:39 PM

Hope that's not a violation, hey?



Quote from: classof70 on June 26, 2013, 07:15:58 PM
My son,  a SLU law alum confirms!!





(http://i.qkme.me/3p1qgu.jpg)
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 01:06:56 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on June 27, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
Your point is that Buzz is unable or unwilling to recruit the center position in a way that you find acceptable.  What's your solution?  Fire Buzz?
No--You have no clue what my point is. I did not say  that Otule/gardner were substandard--the other guy implied they were. My solution is not to fire Buzz. You said that! My solution is to recruit a quality big, rather than other people making excuses. I think that Buzz is trying to recruit some, but so far has not been able to, although I certainly like the way Gardner has developed.
So now that I cleared that up for you--what is your solution--criticism?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: barfolomew on June 27, 2013, 01:22:15 PM
I live in suburban Chicago and have heard it pronounced both ways -- so is it "mah-LEEK" or "MAH-lik"?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 01:27:13 PM
Quote from: bilsu on June 27, 2013, 12:01:41 PM
Otule broke his foot his freshmen year, so we do not really know how his fisrt year would of turned out. I also would argue that Gardner was not below average as a freshmen. He was playing very well before he hurt his shoulder. I suspose you could point to his defense, but most freshmen are not good on the defensive end and that is why they do not play much.
Would you trust either as a 20+ minute starting freshmen center? I don't think he was saying we would have no bigs contributing, but rather we needed to accept we would be going small most of the game.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 01:06:56 PM
No--You have no clue what my point is. I did not say  that Otule/gardner were substandard--the other guy implied they were. My solution is not to fire Buzz. You said that! My solution is to recruit a quality big, rather than other people making excuses. I think that Buzz is trying to recruit some, but so far has not been able to, although I certainly like the way Gardner has developed.
So now that I cleared that up for you--what is your solution--criticism?
So your suggestion is try harder? I'm sure Buzz is just enjoying the free drinks on all those flights he's been taking.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Groin_pull on June 27, 2013, 01:31:45 PM
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 01:29:15 PM
So your suggestion is try harder? I'm sure Buzz is just enjoying the free drinks on all those flights he's been taking.

Damn, that Buzz is a serious slacker. Doesn't he see that five-star big men are lining up to play at MU? Why can't Buzz reel in at least one?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 27, 2013, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: Groin_pull on June 27, 2013, 01:31:45 PM
Damn, that Buzz is a serious slacker. Doesn't he see that five-star big men are lining up to play at MU? Why can't Buzz reel in at least one?

Why is Buzz letting all these 5 star in-state big men slip through his fingers??? Disregard the fact that the only players fitting into that category during his tenure graduate high school 2 years from now and are still undecided, making anyone's ability to meet that demand, by definition, impossible!!!!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: AZWarrior on June 27, 2013, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: Jajuannaman on June 27, 2013, 01:36:53 PM
Why is Buzz letting all these 5 star in-state big men slip through his fingers??? Disregard the fact that the only players fitting into that category during his tenure graduate high school 2 years from now and are still undecided, making anyone's ability to meet that demand, by definition, impossible!!!!

Will you please stop clouding the issue with the facts?!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: nyg on June 27, 2013, 02:11:57 PM
Harris moved up to #72 in Rivals today. 
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 02:19:22 PM
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 01:29:15 PM
So your suggestion is try harder? I'm sure Buzz is just enjoying the free drinks on all those flights he's been taking.
Did not answer the question. As I surmised, you are just a hater, but have no solution. I did not say try harder--you did. No solution, just shouta and pound the table. I'll bet you scored all A's in Debate.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 27, 2013, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 02:19:22 PM
Did not answer the question. As I surmised, you are just a hater, but have no solution. I did not say try harder--you did. No solution, just shouta and pound the table. I'll bet you scored all A's in Debate.

Dude - you realize you are the one without a solution, just pounding your fist on the table like a baby - right?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 02:49:11 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 02:19:22 PM
Did not answer the question. As I surmised, you are just a hater, but have no solution. I did not say try harder--you did. No solution, just shouta and pound the table. I'll bet you scored all A's in Debate.
Sorry, I missed you question. My solution is to get the best players possible with the majority of the slots, throw in a project big man most years, and keep improving enough where we are a constant Top 10 team where we can get enough publicity that a Top 5 center is willing to sign with us. We have proven in the past we can get by without big-men and I think we can do that in the future. Signing TONS of crappy big men will hurt are our team and make us inadequate at multiple positions, instead of just 1 (the center position). My theory is get the job that will eventually get you your dream job, instead of keeping applying for a job your not qualified for yet and not getting a call.

At this point of time, I don't think it logical to expect dominant big men to sign with MU. We may luck out and get one due to Buzz's hard work, but we are underdogs at this point of time and with that comes a lot of swings and misses. Hopefully, he makes contact, though. He is definitely swinging and that's all I expect.  
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Blackhat on June 27, 2013, 06:35:34 PM
A commit?

Alright, Alright, Alright!

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I think we're on a roll boys!

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Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 02:49:11 PM
Sorry, I missed you question. My solution is to get the best players possible with the majority of the slots, throw in a project big man most years, and keep improving enough where we are a constant Top 10 team where we can get enough publicity that a Top 5 center is willing to sign with us. We have proven in the past we can get by without big-men and I think we can do that in the future. Signing TONS of crappy big men will hurt are our team and make us inadequate at multiple positions, instead of just 1 (the center position). My theory is get the job that will eventually get you your dream job, instead of keeping applying for a job your not qualified for yet and not getting a call.

At this point of time, I don't think it logical to expect dominant big men to sign with MU. We may luck out and get one due to Buzz's hard work, but we are underdogs at this point of time and with that comes a lot of swings and misses. Hopefully, he makes contact, though. He is definitely swinging and that's all I expect.  
I agree that he is swinging, but how hard? I have never said we should take stiffs--they should be quality.  But why is it not logical to occasionally land a dominant big.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: GGGG on June 27, 2013, 07:30:33 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
I agree that he is swinging, but how hard?


So you think the problem is that he isn't trying hard enough?

Really?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: tower912 on June 27, 2013, 07:31:54 PM
"Buzz isn't trying hard enough to land bigs" = eternal loss of credibility.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: bilsu on June 27, 2013, 08:30:45 PM
Otule was really a Crean recruit. The four tallest players Buzz signed have all been busts. McMorrow had a heart issue. Mbao was too thin and transferred. Roseborro and the center from Texas did not make it until September. My guess is Buzz will try to get a good center, but probably is not too interested in taking anymore projects.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: keefe on June 27, 2013, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: bilsu on June 27, 2013, 08:30:45 PM
Otule was really a Crean recruit.

I don't think so...
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: GGGG on June 27, 2013, 08:38:47 PM
Otule was recruited by Buzz and Buzz got Crean to sign him.  Crean deserves credit for listening to Buzz, but Buzz did all the work.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: real chili 83 on June 27, 2013, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 27, 2013, 08:38:47 PM
Otule was recruited by Buzz and Buzz got Crean to sign him.  Crean deserves credit for listening to Buzz, but Buzz did all the work.

That was, like, 8 years ago?  ;)
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: wadesworld on June 27, 2013, 08:49:32 PM
Gotta love the guys who focus so much on the height of a guy to determine who the "best" "big men" Buzz has signed have been.  Ben Wallace could return to his prime form and be 17 years old and begging Buzz to come to Marquette and some people here would be crying for Mbao to come back.  It's hilarious.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: We R Final Four on June 27, 2013, 08:56:13 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on June 27, 2013, 08:49:32 PM
Gotta love the guys who focus so much on the height of a guy to determine who the "best" "big men" Buzz has signed have been.  Ben Wallace could return to his prime form and be 17 years old and begging Buzz to come to Marquette and some people here would be crying for Mbao to come back.  It's hilarious.

Let me know when anyone is crying for the return of Mbao. Now that is hilarious.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: wadesworld on June 27, 2013, 09:11:10 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on June 27, 2013, 08:56:13 PM
Let me know when anyone is crying for the return of Mbao. Now that is hilarious.

Before we knew what the Mbaoss could do. Some would see "5* C 6'8"" and "2* C 7'2" and wonder why we'd take the 6'8" guy who is called a center but couldn't be be aide he's not 6'10"+.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: willie warrior on June 28, 2013, 07:00:06 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 27, 2013, 07:30:33 PM

So you think the problem is that he isn't trying hard enough?

Really?
Didn't say that, but some certainly have questions. I admit that it is not easy, but when you are paid two million plus and have one of the highest BB budgets in the country, and a private jet, and an NBA arena, and a rich tradition, and good facilities, a good school, a world class city (yes, I said that), a solid BB conference, and a caring coach, and right now 3 studs in your own backyard, you should land one periodically. We have not now in decades, even though many improvements have been made. So, maybe that question is in order.
Yes, I am thankful for the success Buzz has had--just believe that landing a quality big with the rest of the talent gives us the best shot at FF.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on June 28, 2013, 02:47:25 PM
100% correct.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 28, 2013, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 28, 2013, 07:00:06 AM
Didn't say that, but some certainly have questions. I admit that it is not easy, but when you are paid two million plus and have one of the highest BB budgets in the country, and a private jet, and an NBA arena, and a rich tradition, and good facilities, a good school, a world class city (yes, I said that), a solid BB conference, and a caring coach, and right now 3 studs in your own backyard, you should land one periodically. We have not now in decades, even though many improvements have been made. So, maybe that question is in order.
Yes, I am thankful for the success Buzz has had--just believe that landing a quality big with the rest of the talent gives us the best shot at FF.

I think of the Bradley center as more of a college arena that an Nba team uses
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: keefe on June 28, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on June 28, 2013, 06:33:58 PM
I think of the Bradley center as more of a college arena that an Nba team uses

Nicely spun, Piper
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on June 28, 2013, 08:15:44 PM
Welcome to Marquette.  Malek
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: willie warrior on June 28, 2013, 08:26:46 PM
Quote from: Jajuannaman on June 27, 2013, 02:45:40 PM
Dude - you realize you are the one without a solution, just pounding your fist on the table like a baby - right?
And you dude are hereby ignored.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 30, 2013, 01:46:08 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 28, 2013, 07:00:06 AM
Didn't say that, but some certainly have questions. I admit that it is not easy, but when you are paid two million plus and have one of the highest BB budgets in the country, and a private jet, and an NBA arena, and a rich tradition, and good facilities, a good school, a world class city (yes, I said that), a solid BB conference, and a caring coach, and right now 3 studs in your own backyard, you should land one periodically. We have not now in decades, even though many improvements have been made. So, maybe that question is in order.
Yes, I am thankful for the success Buzz has had--just believe that landing a quality big with the rest of the talent gives us the best shot at FF.

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on June 28, 2013, 02:47:25 PM
100% correct.

Again, let me ask that question that you avoid because you cannot answer.

Buzz, evidently isn't meeting your expectations, so what is your solution?

Threaten Buzz?  Fire Buzz?

Or yeah, whining like spoiled little brats.  That is your only solution.

Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: willie warrior on June 30, 2013, 06:43:45 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on June 30, 2013, 01:46:08 AM
Again, let me ask that question that you avoid because you cannot answer.

Buzz, evidently isn't meeting your expectations, so what is your solution?

Threaten Buzz?  Fire Buzz?

Or yeah, whining like spoiled little brats.  That is your only solution.


Amazing how people with anonymous e-mail tags post their wild eyed opinions on this board with so little knowledge, but with egos that believe they are all wise!
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: GGGG on June 30, 2013, 06:45:45 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 30, 2013, 06:43:45 AM
Amazing how people with anonymous e-mail tags post their wild eyed opinions on this board with so little knowledge, but with egos that believe they are all wise!


You avoided the question again.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on June 30, 2013, 07:40:32 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 30, 2013, 06:43:45 AM
Amazing how people with anonymous e-mail tags post their wild eyed opinions on this board with so little knowledge, but with egos that believe they are all wise!
You have made an amazing voyage of self-discovery.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: tower912 on June 30, 2013, 08:49:19 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 30, 2013, 06:43:45 AM
Amazing how people with anonymous e-mail tags post their wild eyed opinions on this board with so little knowledge, but with egos that believe they are all wise!

Pot, meet kettle.   Now, answer the question.   What is your solution?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: willie warrior on June 30, 2013, 09:15:58 AM
Quote from: tower912 on June 30, 2013, 08:49:19 AM
Pot, meet kettle.   Now, answer the question.   What is your solution?
I already supplied that, if you read. What is yours?
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: tower912 on June 30, 2013, 11:47:53 AM
My solution is to believe that Buzz is working hard to land a decent 5.   It is also to believe that if he fails to land one, that he can win with a bunch of 6'7-6'8 switchables up front.   IMO, if in 14-15, our front line is McKay, STjr, Juan, Malek, and Burton, with a backcourt of Dawson, DuWilson, DeWilson and JJJ, that Buzz can take that core to the second weekend of the tourney.  So my final solution is to not worry about it.    Buzz has shown he can win small and quick, he can win big with no 3 pt shooters, and anywhere else along that continuum.   As long as Buzz is here, I will trust his ability to build winning teams.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on June 30, 2013, 09:13:22 PM
It's too bad that Buzz can't recruit quality bigs - forwards and centers.  We're in the game with 6'7" players, but, we could dominate if he could recruit 6'9' forwards.
Title: Re: Malek Harris Commits?
Post by: BCHoopster on July 01, 2013, 07:23:11 AM
Quote from: tower912 on June 30, 2013, 11:47:53 AM
My solution is to believe that Buzz is working hard to land a decent 5.   It is also to believe that if he fails to land one, that he can win with a bunch of 6'7-6'8 switchables up front.   IMO, if in 14-15, our front line is McKay, STjr, Juan, Malek, and Burton, with a backcourt of Dawson, DuWilson, DeWilson and JJJ, that Buzz can take that core to the second weekend of the tourney.  So my final solution is to not worry about it.    Buzz has shown he can win small and quick, he can win big with no 3 pt shooters, and anywhere else along that continuum.   As long as Buzz is here, I will trust his ability to build winning teams.

Buzz does not need a big center but he does need 1 physical player, I seen none in that list.  I believe a JC kid will show up knowing he can start at MU right away.  Buzz will find
someone.  I must admit the 10 kids for 2014 all can play, you forgot Mayo, he is back as well.
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