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Title: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on June 26, 2013, 12:44:33 PM
ESPN put out a nice recruiting piece per conference today. In the Big East segment they said that we are recruiting Ahmed Hill. Does any know know much about his recruitment? ESPN has him ranked at 33.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: MuMark on June 26, 2013, 02:17:56 PM
We have been on him for a long time.....has been on a bit of a slide in the rankings but still a top 60 kid by most accounts. Has said he plans to visit MU in recent interviews.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 27, 2013, 11:44:28 AM
For those more in the know than myself...   if we get a commitment from Sandy Cohen, would MU still hope to get Ahmed?  Or would Buzz be focused on a big and a PG for the last two schollies?
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: MUfan12 on June 27, 2013, 11:47:08 AM
MU seems to be in decent shape with him.

Quote from: LittleMurs on June 27, 2013, 11:44:28 AM
For those more in the know than myself...   if we get a commitment from Sandy Cohen, would MU still hope to get Ahmed?  Or would Buzz be focused on a big and a PG for the last two schollies?

I think they'd take both. Cohen is pretty versatile and can create some mismatches.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
I think we would be fine at Point with 2 freshmen PGs this year. I know we are extremely excited about Wilson but I think we can expect 3 years from him unless we do something amazing in the turning. I say take the best players you can get unless the cupboard is bare, which is the case for big-men.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Litehouse on June 27, 2013, 12:04:45 PM
Besides possibly Cohen, who looks more like a combo-guard, I don't see a need to take a PG in 2014, but that's just my opinion.  In '14-'15 we'll have De. Wilson as a Senior, Du. Wilson and Dawson as Sophomores, and Noskowiak coming in 2015.  We need someone bigger than Steve Taylor with at least one of those spots.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: bilsu on June 27, 2013, 12:10:35 PM
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
I think we would be fine at Point with 2 freshmen PGs this year. I know we are extremely excited about Wilson but I think we can expect 3 years from him unless we do something amazing in the turning. I say take the best players you can get unless the cupboard is bare, which is the case for big-men.
I agree with this and Cohen can also play point. Buzz has said he would like to recruit a point guard every year and my guess is that Cohen fills this criteria.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Jay Bee on June 27, 2013, 12:19:47 PM
Different players, but see both as guards/wings.

PS - you guys can use the search function on this website (upper right) to see if a topic or player has been talked about recently.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 02:26:09 PM
Quote from: Litehouse on June 27, 2013, 12:04:45 PM
Besides possibly Cohen, who looks more like a combo-guard, I don't see a need to take a PG in 2014, but that's just my opinion.  In '14-'15 we'll have De. Wilson as a Senior, Du. Wilson and Dawson as Sophomores, and Noskowiak coming in 2015.  We need someone bigger than Steve Taylor with at least one of those spots.
How dare you say we need a big. Don't you read this board? If we have 5 rebounding switchables, we will be fine.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 27, 2013, 02:30:42 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 27, 2013, 02:26:09 PM
How dare you say we need a big. Don't you read this board? If we have 5 rebounding switchables, we will be fine.
I don't think Litehouse is going over the top, getting upset over recruiting a top 75 prospect and saying we NEED lots of big men, one of which needs to be a Top 5 recruit. He's suggesting 1 big man out of a class of 4, which is realistic.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 04, 2013, 03:45:53 PM
24/7 sports is now predicting that Ahmed Hill will go to UConn.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: MU Buff on August 04, 2013, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on August 04, 2013, 03:45:53 PM
24/7 sports is now predicting that Ahmed Hill will go to UConn.

One recruiting expert, William Gunter, predicted Connecticut.  After some UConn fans asked him about it on twitter, Gunter said he got some bad info because Ahmed Hill told him UConn isn't recruiting him at this time.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: brewcity77 on August 04, 2013, 06:39:34 PM
Quote from: I don't care on August 04, 2013, 05:35:43 PM
One recruiting expert, William Gunter, predicted Connecticut.  After some UConn fans asked him about it on twitter, Gunter said he got some bad info because Ahmed Hill told him UConn isn't recruiting him at this time.

Hmm...maybe I should predict Jahlil Okafor and Tyus Jones to Marquette   ;D
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Jay Bee on August 04, 2013, 07:08:28 PM
Quote from: I don't care on August 04, 2013, 05:35:43 PM
One recruiting expert

Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 04, 2013, 11:16:45 PM
Quote from: I don't care on August 04, 2013, 05:35:43 PM
One recruiting expert, William Gunter, predicted Connecticut.  After some UConn fans asked him about it on twitter, Gunter said he got some bad info because Ahmed Hill told him UConn isn't recruiting him at this time.

24/7's site still indicates that Gunter is predicting UConn with a date of August 1st for the prediction, evidently they haven't got around to updating.  Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 04, 2013, 11:18:22 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 04, 2013, 06:39:34 PM
Hmm...maybe I should predict Jahlil Okafor and Tyus Jones to Marquette   ;D

We don't need Tyrus Jones, he's not a big. 
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: MU Buff on August 05, 2013, 12:03:48 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on August 04, 2013, 11:16:45 PM
24/7's site still indicates that Gunter is predicting UConn with a date of August 1st for the prediction, evidently they haven't got around to updating.  Thanks for the update.

Gunter also said he can't just remove his prediction.  Since he already chose a team, the site will only let him change the team.  Therefore, he's gathering more info.

If you look at what the majority predict for a player at 247, I've found it to be more right than wrong.  I think it's a great feature.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 05, 2013, 02:39:11 PM
Quote from: I don't care on August 05, 2013, 12:03:48 AM
Gunter also said he can't just remove his prediction.  Since he already chose a team, the site will only let him change the team.  Therefore, he's gathering more info.

If you look at what the majority predict for a player at 247, I've found it to be more right than wrong.  I think it's a great feature.

Gunter needs more pull at 247.  Whoever predicted Paul White to Arizona at 247 has been able to have that prediction deleted. 
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: MU Buff on August 05, 2013, 11:12:39 PM
He changed his prediction to Florida State earlier tonight
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on August 27, 2013, 06:57:02 PM
We now know we are in his final 5: https://twitter.com/nextuprecruits/status/372500599562317824

Would be a great get and be a nice player to add to the stable of guard switchables.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: LAZER on August 27, 2013, 07:22:12 PM
Some tough competition, but great too see.  Hill would take the '14 class to another level and make two awesome classes back to back.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: GGGG on August 27, 2013, 07:31:41 PM
Quote from: I don't care on August 05, 2013, 11:12:39 PM
He changed his prediction to Florida State earlier tonight


Likely because XRM is academically ineligible and Hamilton is upping his recruitment.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: LAZER on August 27, 2013, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: Terror Skink on August 27, 2013, 07:31:41 PM

Likely because XRM is academically ineligible and Hamilton is upping his recruitment.

That was back on 8/5
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: GGGG on August 27, 2013, 08:57:35 PM
Ha...reading is fundamental.  Thanks.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 29, 2013, 12:28:27 AM
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on August 27, 2013, 06:57:02 PM
We now know we are in his final 5: https://twitter.com/nextuprecruits/status/372500599562317824

Looking at his top 5, he would be challenged for playing time no matter where he went.

Marquette: Behind Mayo (1 year) and JJJ (3 years)
Florida: Behind Frazier II (2 years) and Francis (4 years)
Florida State: Behind Thomas and Brandon (2 years) and Rathan-Mayes (4 years if he becomes eligible)
Indiana: Behind Robinson (3 years) and they are in the lead for Issiah Whitehead and James Blackmon Jr (higher rated SGs in his class)
Missouri: Behind Brown and Clarkson (1 year) and they are in the final 5 for Devin Booker (higher rated SG in his class

Playing time isn't the only factor but I would put Marquette, Florida State, and Missouri in the lead. Florida already has two higher rated guards in their 2014 class and Indiana will get either Whitehead or Blackmon Jr. If Mizzou grabs Booker, that leaves us and FSU.

I saw someone predicted FSU in another article, that's not a bad guess. Here's hoping Buzz can sell him on our recent success (Lockett anybody?). Him and Blammers would wrap up quite a nice recruiting haul for 2014.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: MUCrew on August 29, 2013, 08:45:14 AM
PT tweeted this yesterday:

https://twitter.com/PaintTouches/status/372807893113765888
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: GGGG on August 29, 2013, 08:50:19 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 29, 2013, 12:28:27 AM
Looking at his top 5, he would be challenged for playing time no matter where he went.

Marquette: Behind Mayo (1 year) and JJJ (3 years)


You are assuming that only one SG can be on the court at the same time.  If the guy can shoot, he will play.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Jay Bee on August 29, 2013, 10:03:28 AM
When talking with Ahmed (http://www.insidethehall.com/2013/05/28/ahmed-hills-relationship-with-indiana-continues-to-grow/), he stressed the "right feeling" and a father / son relationship when looking at schools. I think he's confident enough and smart enough to know that things can change anywhere... if he's digging the idea of hard work, MU should certainly be in play.

One of those players who is solid all around (Trent Lockett like in that regard, perhaps). Can help in a number of ways.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: LAZER on August 29, 2013, 10:38:52 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on August 29, 2013, 08:50:19 AM

You are assuming that only one SG can be on the court at the same time.  If the guy can shoot, he will play.

Yep, nothing wrong with too many good shooters.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: mileskishnish72 on August 29, 2013, 10:40:40 AM
We certainly could have used some of them last March.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 29, 2013, 10:43:43 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on August 29, 2013, 08:50:19 AM

You are assuming that only one SG can be on the court at the same time.  If the guy can shoot, he will play.

Absolutely. But we are crowded in the 2, 3, and 4. I was more looking at if being the starting SG was important to him as a player. A player of his skill would obviously get playing time. But many get caught up in needing to be the starter. I have no idea what's important to Ahmed. But if it is a "father/son relationship" like JayBee pointed out, then you gotta believe that Buzz is the right coach for him.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 29, 2013, 10:57:50 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 29, 2013, 10:43:43 AM
Absolutely. But we are crowded in the 2, 3, and 4. I was more looking at if being the starting SG was important to him as a player. A player of his skill would obviously get playing time. But many get caught up in needing to be the starter. I have no idea what's important to Ahmed. But if it is a "father/son relationship" like JayBee pointed out, then you gotta believe that Buzz is the right coach for him.

Well, Crean can certainly work his relationship with Dwayne to some advantage there.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 29, 2013, 11:23:44 AM
Just tell him to steer clear of F*ckin'. It's common knowledge how his "father/son" relationships have gone in the past.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on August 29, 2013, 03:35:54 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 29, 2013, 11:23:44 AM
Just tell him to steer clear of F*ckin'. It's common knowledge how his "father/son" relationships have gone in the past.

You violated me you sick old man!
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 02, 2013, 01:15:10 AM
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on August 27, 2013, 06:57:02 PM
We now know we are in his final 5: https://twitter.com/nextuprecruits/status/372500599562317824

Would be a great get and be a nice player to add to the stable of guard switchables.
excerpt


Ahmed Hill, a class of 2014 guard from Augusta, Ga., trimmed his list to five on Tuesday and Indiana made the cut, along with Florida, Florida State, Marquette and Missouri.

"Of those five schools, me and the head coach have a great relationship, they're basketball schools, and I think that I can help them out tremendously and I'd fit into their program," Hill told Inside the Hall of the finalists.

He's expected to take official visits to all five finalists, but said that Florida, Marquette and Missouri are recruiting him hardest right now.
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 02, 2013, 01:51:14 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 02, 2013, 01:15:10 AM
excerpt


Ahmed Hill, a class of 2014 guard from Augusta, Ga., trimmed his list to five on Tuesday and Indiana made the cut, along with Florida, Florida State, Marquette and Missouri.

"Of those five schools, me and the head coach have a great relationship, they're basketball schools, and I think that I can help them out tremendously and I'd fit into their program," Hill told Inside the Hall of the finalists.

He's expected to take official visits to all five finalists, but said that Florida, Marquette and Missouri are recruiting him hardest right now.

Florida and Florida State are basketball schools?
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 02, 2013, 12:08:41 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 02, 2013, 01:51:14 AM
Florida and Florida State are basketball schools?

I guess according to him. 
Title: Re: What do we know what Ahmed Hill
Post by: Nukem2 on September 02, 2013, 12:19:43 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 02, 2013, 01:51:14 AM
Florida and Florida State are basketball schools?
Certainly both are more well known for FB, but under Donovan and Hamilton, both schools have been in the upper tier of BB schools as well.
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