Just listened to First Take. According to Steven A. Smith, Wade is hampered with a deep knee bruise that is not healing. It is clearly affecting him. Smith also said that if Wade goes down or cannot play decently, the Heat have no chance to win against the Spurs. Smith said that Wade is absolutely the key for the Heat.
So to all the Wade haters out there, maybe Wade is not washed up but is significantly affected by that knee. Amazed by all the negativity on this board about Wade, but nary a word about Rose of the Bulls and his pansy sit down. For Rose, it is all about his cash, He cannot lace them up--at least Wade does. Maybe Wade sometimes pouts, but it pales in comparison to Rose's pansy pout for the last couple months.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 04, 2013, 09:55:48 AM
Just listened to First Take. According to Steven A. Smith, Wade is hampered with a deep knee bruise that is not healing. It is clearly affecting him. Smith also said that if Wade goes down or cannot play decently, the Heat have no chance to win against the Spurs. Smith said that Wade is absolutely the key for the Heat.
So to all the Wade haters out there, maybe Wade is not washed up but is significantly affected by that knee. Amazed by all the negativity on this board about Wade, but nary a word about Rose of the Bulls and his pansy sit down. For Rose, it is all about his cash, He cannot lace them up--at least Wade does. Maybe Wade sometimes pouts, but it pales in comparison to Rose's pansy pout for the last couple months.
Most who were "bashing Wade" weren't doing so because of his lackluster play.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 04, 2013, 09:55:48 AM
Amazed by all the negativity on this board about Wade, but nary a word about Rose of the Bulls and his pansy sit down.
Maybe because Rose didn't go to Marquette?
Man do I hate First Take.
Citing Steven (sic) A. Smith as support for your argument = losing argument.
Man do I hate Wade being hobbled on basketball's biggest stage at the start of recruiting season.
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 04, 2013, 10:56:16 AM
Most who were "bashing Wade" weren't doing so because of his lackluster play.
Exactly.
They're doing it because they're butthurt Bulls fans.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2013, 11:05:16 AM
Citing Steven (sic) A. Smith as support for your argument = losing argument.
And where does that come from? Smith is blunt and tells it like it is but has great sources and is well respected as an NBA analyst. He gets info that many others do not. I would take Smith any day over guys like Wilbon, Greenberg, etc. Another good analyst is Bruce Bowen. Slamming Smith is just dumb. But hey it's the internet, so it is all right for you to have your opinion.
First off, Stephen A Smith is an idiot.
Second, Wade has a knee bruise and Rose tore his ACL..quite a difference there
Third, people are bashing Wade because him and LBJ have teamed up to form the biggest duo of cry baby floppers ever.
I for one have disliked his play of late and its not because I'm a butthurt Bull's fan. Bulls fans are happy that the team competed all season and got through the first round. I don't want Rose to have the next Grant Hill dropoff.
Wade's cheapshots are what have aggravated me. The fact that his play has deteriorated in the last few months is not something I root for or am happy about.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 04, 2013, 09:55:48 AM
Just listened to First Take. According to Steven A. Smith, Wade is hampered with a deep knee bruise that is not healing. It is clearly affecting him. Smith also said that if Wade goes down or cannot play decently, the Heat have no chance to win against the Spurs. Smith said that Wade is absolutely the key for the Heat.
So to all the Wade haters out there, maybe Wade is not washed up but is significantly affected by that knee. Amazed by all the negativity on this board about Wade, but nary a word about Rose of the Bulls and his pansy sit down. For Rose, it is all about his cash, He cannot lace them up--at least Wade does. Maybe Wade sometimes pouts, but it pales in comparison to Rose's pansy pout for the last couple months.
Yeah, I really don't see a lot of "wade-haters" here..
What I have seen is a fan base that is torn because they love Wade and what he has brought to MU, but don't like what they see on the court from him as far as the whining, dirty play, etc...
If I saw that kind of play from Rose, I would certainly feel the same- and I am not a Bulls fan...
Quote from: icheights on June 04, 2013, 11:33:02 AM
First off, Stephen A Smith is an idiot.
Second, Wade has a knee bruise and Rose tore his ACL..quite a difference there
Third, people are bashing Wade because him and LBJ have teamed up to form the biggest duo of cry baby floppers ever.
Yeah, there is a difference there in injuries, but the Dr's. cleared Rose. Defending Rose is like somebody defending a guy who paid somebody else to take their SAT so he could get into college.
You do realize that the vast majority of Bulls fans are pissed at Derrick for not returning right?
You do realize that this is a Marquette message board (not a Memphis message board) and that's why you haven't seen these criticisms on scoop.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 04, 2013, 11:40:06 AM
You do realize that the vast majority of Bulls fans are pissed at Derrick for not returning right?
You do realize that this is a Marquette message board (not a Memphis message board) and that's why you haven't seen these criticisms on scoop.
+1
I was wondering why the poster brought up D Rose in the first place. Has nothing to do with the Wade discussion...
Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 04, 2013, 11:26:19 AM
Exactly.
They're doing it because they're butthurt Bulls fans.
I honestly don't know any Bulls fans who actually believed that Wade was going to sign with the team when he was a FA, nor do I know any Bulls fans who are "butthurt" because he chose to stay in Miami. That notion is largely created by Illinois-hating Wisconsinites.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 04, 2013, 11:26:39 AM
And where does that come from? Smith is blunt and tells it like it is but has great sources and is well respected as an NBA analyst. He gets info that many others do not. I would take Smith any day over guys like Wilbon, Greenberg, etc. Another good analyst is Bruce Bowen. Slamming Smith is just dumb. But hey it's the internet, so it is all right for you to have your opinion.
Exactly.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/raissman-stephen-s-lame-defense-article-1.1362326
His hot fresh take that Roy Hibbert's no homo comment wasn't a big deal.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/stephen-smith-believes-3-ties-blackhawks-nhl-record-180125951--nhl.html
His keen analysis on how the NHL scoring system works
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/stephen-a-smith-onion-satire-twitter-espn_n_1891816.html
Not too mention his media expertise on believing an Onion article is real.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 04, 2013, 11:26:39 AM
And where does that come from? Smith is blunt and tells it like it is but has great sources and is well respected as an NBA analyst. He gets info that many others do not. I would take Smith any day over guys like Wilbon, Greenberg, etc. Another good analyst is Bruce Bowen. Slamming Smith is just dumb. But hey it's the internet, so it is all right for you to have your opinion.
Let me just say this...
It probably surprises no one here that you are a fan of Stephen A. Smith.
Quote from: icheights on June 04, 2013, 11:33:02 AM
people are bashing Wade because him and LBJ have teamed up to form the biggest duo of cry baby floppers ever.
Did Wade and Lebron go to Duke?
Quote from: reinko on June 04, 2013, 11:42:23 AM
Exactly.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/raissman-stephen-s-lame-defense-article-1.1362326
His hot fresh take that Roy Hibbert's no homo comment wasn't a big deal.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/stephen-smith-believes-3-ties-blackhawks-nhl-record-180125951--nhl.html
His keen analysis on how the NHL scoring system works
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/stephen-a-smith-onion-satire-twitter-espn_n_1891816.html
Not too mention his media expertise on believing an Onion article is real.
Holy crap that Onion one is hysterical. How did I miss hearing about that? Priceless!
If Stephen A. Smith is an actor playing a buffoon I smell Emmy.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 04, 2013, 09:55:48 AM
So to all the Wade haters out there, maybe Wade is not washed up but is significantly affected by that knee. Amazed by all the negativity on this board about Wade, but nary a word about Rose of the Bulls and his pansy sit down. For Rose, it is all about his cash, He cannot lace them up--at least Wade does. Maybe Wade sometimes pouts, but it pales in comparison to Rose's pansy pout for the last couple months.
If that is your take you weren't paying attention. Maybe not on this board but certainly in Chicago and even in the national media Rose took a lot of heat.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 04, 2013, 11:26:39 AM
And where does that come from? Smith is blunt and tells it like it is but has great sources and is well respected as an NBA analyst. He gets info that many others do not. I would take Smith any day over guys like Wilbon, Greenberg, etc. Another good analyst is Bruce Bowen. Slamming Smith is just dumb. But hey it's the internet, so it is all right for you to have your opinion.
Every time a guy plays like cr@p, that player or his team will leak to friendly journalists (i.e., Smith) unprovable information that he's playing through some vague injury, like a bruised knee or tendinitis. And some people (i.e., you) fall for it.
But yeah, Stephen A. Smith is genius.
http://deadspin.com/5943994/stephen-a-smith-thought-an-article-about-him-in-the-onion-was-real
http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/march/stephen-a-smith-rants-on-ties-in-hockey-which-don-t-exist-anymore.html
Man you guys can really miss the point sometimes. What you think of Stephen A. Smith has nothing to with this. It's been widely reported that Wade is playing through a knee injury and it has clearly affected his game. Spoelstra discussed it pretty openly.
Wade has played through injuries many times and I respect him for going out there even when he is not 100%. Kobe has done the same throughout his career. For a lot of players, including Derrick Rose, they would rather sit than play through an injury even in the playoffs and risk looking bad or suffering something more serious.
Quote from: frozena pizza on June 04, 2013, 12:15:19 PM
Man you guys can really miss the point sometimes. What you think of Stephen A. Smith has nothing to with this. It's been widely reported that Wade is playing through a knee injury and it has clearly affected his game. Spoelstra discussed it pretty openly.
Wade has played through injuries many times and I respect him for going out there even when he is not 100%. Kobe has done the same throughout his career. For a lot of players, including Derrick Rose, they would rather sit than play through an injury even in the playoffs and risk looking bad or suffering something more serious.
I agree people are shooting the messenger. The point is Wade has a significant injury and yet continues to play because his team needs him. The man is a warrior.
Quote from: frozena pizza on June 04, 2013, 12:15:19 PM
Man you guys can really miss the point sometimes. What you think of Stephen A. Smith has nothing to with this. It's been widely reported that Wade is playing through a knee injury and it has clearly affected his game. Spoelstra discussed it pretty openly.
Wade has played through injuries many times and I respect him for going out there even when he is not 100%. Kobe has done the same throughout his career. For a lot of players, including Derrick Rose, they would rather sit than play through an injury even in the playoffs and risk looking bad or suffering something more serious.
This. I thought it was well known he has a knee injury considering he has been taping his knee cap in place since the begining of the playoffs.
Quote from: frozena pizza on June 04, 2013, 12:15:19 PM
Man you guys can really miss the point sometimes. What you think of Stephen A. Smith has nothing to with this. It's been widely reported that Wade is playing through a knee injury and it has clearly affected his game. Spoelstra discussed it pretty openly.
Wade has played through injuries many times and I respect him for going out there even when he is not 100%. Kobe has done the same throughout his career. For a lot of players, including Derrick Rose, they would rather sit than play through an injury even in the playoffs and risk looking bad or suffering something more serious.
No...the point is that willie misunderstood what people were "bashing" Wade for. Everyone fully knew he was injured.
Stephen is a fan of "the great" Justin Bieber.
Case closed.
http://youtu.be/MPl_a38iTnU
Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 04, 2013, 12:31:58 PM
This. I thought it was well known he has a knee injury considering he has been taping his knee cap in place since the begining of the playoffs.
Wade isn't being criticized for his poor play.
He's being criticized for his whining and questionable tactics, neither of which are caused by a bruised knee.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2013, 12:38:55 PM
Wade isn't being criticized for his poor play.
He's being criticized for his whining and questionable tactics, neither of which are caused by a bruised knee.
You must be a butthurt Bulls fan.
Quote from: LAZER on June 04, 2013, 12:40:58 PM
You must be a butthurt Bulls fan.
Well, obviously.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2013, 12:38:55 PM
Wade isn't being criticized for his poor play.
He's being criticized for his whining and questionable tactics, neither of which are caused by a bruised knee.
The media has certainly criticized Wade for his poor play. If you are referring to Scoopers, I think you are correct in that most have focused on his brutal attacks on other players.
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 04, 2013, 12:34:57 PM
No...the point is that willie misunderstood what people were "bashing" Wade for. Everyone fully knew he was injured.
No, that was your point. I was responding to the fact that roughly half the responses discuss the credibility of Stephen A. Smith, which is completely irrelevant because he is saying something that is not really disputed. But in any case, there have been several posts on this board criticizing Wade's performance (just not as many as discussing his "whining").
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on June 04, 2013, 12:50:07 PM
The media has certainly criticized Wade for his poor play. If you are referring to Scoopers, I think you are correct in that most have focused on his brutal attacks on other players.
Absolutely he has been criticized for poor play--and on this board by several.
Steven A. Smith tells the facts as related to him and states his opinion, and a number of people call him an idiot, because they do not agree with him. That is very typical of what our society has become today--if you do not agree with somebody, many think that person is an idiot and start the name calling.
There have been several that have criticized Wade for his play of late. Yes, some have also criticized him for whining/pouting/dirty play also. So an analogy is made to the massive pout of Derick Rose and people start screaming on this board about that. The point is Wade is hurt, does not complain about, but continues to play to help his team, and he is criticized for his play. Rose pouts, even though he was cleared to play months ago, and there is hardly a peep.
And no, I am not aware that many Bulls fans are pissed about it. If they are, they should be IMO.
Quote from: frozena pizza on June 04, 2013, 12:53:18 PM
No, that was your point. I was responding to the fact that roughly half the responses discuss the credibility of Stephen A. Smith, which is completely irrelevant because he is saying something that is not really disputed. But in any case, there have been several posts on this board criticizing Wade's performance (just not as many as discussing his "whining").
Half the people hear are laughing at Stephen A Smith but that doesn't mean we miss the point. That's like bringing a Bleacher Report article here and telling people how wrong they are about Gardner being a Top 20 player. Smith is a d-bag that just tries to bring up controversy. Personally, from some of his comments I find him a bit racist. We are just pointing our lack of respect of Smith's work.
WW was way off with his point. 99% of the people on this board "hating" on Wade did so because of his actions, not his play. WW was so off with his point that we don't need to dignify it with a response. Instead, we just find it more entertaining that he tried bringing SAS's trash to this board.
I don't think Stephen A. Smith is an idiot because I disagree with him.
I think Stephen A. Smith is an idiot because he is one.
Did you read those articles? Thinks spouting no homo at the end of a media interview is ok? Thinks an Onion article is real? Goes on uninformed rants about rules that don't exist anymore? Those things are just a few examples of things that the ratings whore idiot Stephen A. Smith says.
Wade has been highly criticized and rightly so. He is a tough ass sum of my bish but his whiny antics are starting to get really old IMO..great player no doubt, I am just getting sick of his antics.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 04, 2013, 01:19:00 PM
Steven A. Smith tells the facts as related to him and states his opinion, and a number of people call him an idiot, because they do not agree with him. That is very typical of what our society has become today--if you do not agree with somebody, many think that person is an idiot and start the name calling.
What's typical of our society today is that people have to have an opinion on everything no matter how misinformed they might be.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 04, 2013, 11:26:39 AM
And where does that come from? Smith is blunt and tells it like it is but has great sources and is well respected as an NBA analyst. He gets info that many others do not. I would take Smith any day over guys like Wilbon, Greenberg, etc. Another good analyst is Bruce Bowen. Slamming Smith is just dumb. But hey it's the internet, so it is all right for you to have your opinion.
+1
Quote from: icheights on June 04, 2013, 11:33:02 AM
First off, Stephen A Smith is an idiot.
Second, Wade has a knee bruise and Rose tore his ACL..quite a difference there
Third, people are bashing Wade because him and LBJ have teamed up to form the biggest duo of cry baby floppers ever.
It's okay Bulls fan, there's always next year. Now be a good little hater and watch the NBA Finals featuring "the biggest duo of cry baby floppers" and their quest for another championship.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on June 04, 2013, 12:50:07 PM
focused on his brutal attacks on other players.
Brutal?? Brutal is Taliban atrocities against women and their families in villages throughout Afghanistan. Brutal is suicide bombers detonating IEDs or driving VBIEDs into crowded markets full of women and children.
Nothing Dwyane Wade has done could ever be categorized as brutal.
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on June 04, 2013, 03:18:50 PM
It's okay Bulls fan, there's always next year. Now be a good little hater and watch the NBA Finals featuring "the biggest duo of cry baby floppers" and their quest for another championship.
If you don't agree that LBJ and D-Wade flip flop all over the floor and bitch and complain about every close call that doesn't go their way you may may be blind. Or maybe you just don't watch much basketball.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 04, 2013, 01:19:00 PM
--if you do not agree with somebody, many think that person is an idiot and start the name calling.
don't be such an idiot
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 04, 2013, 12:34:57 PM
No...the point is that willie misunderstood what people were "bashing" Wade for. Everyone fully knew he was injured.
This is indeed the surprising aspect of the whole thing. Did Willie really need Stephen A. smith to tell him that Wade's play has declined because his knees are shot? I barely follow the NBA and I knew that.
Quote from: keefe on June 04, 2013, 03:20:20 PM
Brutal?? Brutal is Taliban atrocities against women and their families in villages throughout Afghanistan. Brutal is suicide bombers detonating IEDs or driving VBIEDs into crowded markets full of women and children.
Nothing Dwyane Wade has done could ever be categorized as brutal.
I don't use teal. I guess the sarcasm didn't come through, huh?
Quote from: icheights on June 04, 2013, 03:24:37 PM
If you don't agree that LBJ and D-Wade flip flop all over the floor and bitch and complain about every close call that doesn't go their way you may may be blind. Or maybe you just don't watch much basketball.
For what feels like the millionth time, practically all NBA superstars bitch and complain about every call they don't get. If you don't notice it, that's because you are not paying enough attention.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on June 04, 2013, 03:40:13 PM
For what feels like the millionth time, practically all NBA superstars bitch and complain about every call they don't get. If you don't notice it, that's because you are not paying enough attention.
And for what feels like the millionth time, Wade is the worst (or best, depending on your perspective) at it.
If you don't notice it, that's because you are not paying enough attention ... or, more likely, can't see it or don't want to see it through your blue-and-gold tinted glasses.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 04, 2013, 11:26:19 AM
Exactly.
They're doing it because they're butthurt Bulls fans.
Yeah, because everyone who has ever called wade dirty, pointed out how much he wines, or made fun of his dress floods is a bulls fan....
Simply not true, get over it, we have. You are the only ones i ever hear talk about how people are still mad that he didn't come to chicago. It is part of wisconsin's inferiority complex. You are trying to vilify us and grasping at complete bs over some blog post you read 3 years ago.
Quote from: RawdogDX on June 04, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
It is part of wisconsin's inferiority complex.
Nice.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on June 04, 2013, 03:37:02 PM
I don't use teal. I guess the sarcasm didn't come through, huh?
Got it. I don't use teal either.
As for Wade, I cannot understand why our tribe finds it necessary to demonize this guy. In the grand scheme of things the guy is a professional athlete. He isn't trying to become the Archbishop of Canterbury.
One of the most vicious rebounders I have ever watched was Jerome Whitehead. Nothing Wade has done compares with Whitehead throwing elbows.
All of this talk about Wade's dirty play. Please, describe which plays in the 2013 Playoffs have been dirty. I haven't seen it.
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on June 04, 2013, 03:18:50 PM
It's okay Bulls fan, there's always next year. Now be a good little hater and watch the NBA Finals featuring "the biggest duo of cry baby floppers" and their quest for another championship.
How long has it been since the bucks won a play off series again?
Quote from: Gato78 on June 04, 2013, 04:06:05 PM
All of this talk about Wade's dirty play. Please, describe which plays in the 2013 Playoffs have been dirty. I haven't seen it.
Well, there was the flying forearm shiver to Lance Stephenson's head.
(http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/wadestephenson.gif)
Quote from: RawdogDX on June 04, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
Yeah, because everyone who has ever called wade dirty, pointed out how much he wines, or made fun of his dress floods is a bulls fan....
Simply not true, get over it, we have. You are the only ones i ever hear talk about how people are still mad that he didn't come to chicago. It is part of wisconsin's inferiority complex. You are trying to vilify us and grasping at complete bs over some blog post you read 3 years ago.
Yeah, Wisconsin sure has an inferiority complex, especially when all those IP's make their weekend/vacation exits to Wisconsin.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on June 04, 2013, 03:29:33 PM
This is indeed the surprising aspect of the whole thing. Did Willie really need Stephen A. smith to tell him that Wade's play has declined because his knees are shot? I barely follow the NBA and I knew that.
That is not what Smith said. But according to some Smith is an idiot and racist.
Quote from: keefe on June 04, 2013, 04:05:45 PM
Got it. I don't use teal either.
As for Wade, I cannot understand why our tribe finds it necessary to demonize this guy. In the grand scheme of things the guy is a professional athlete. He isn't trying to become the Archbishop of Canterbury.
One of the most vicious rebounders I have ever watched was Jerome Whitehead. Nothing Wade has done compares with Whitehead throwing elbows.
No one here is arguing Wade in the grand scheme of things, everyone here is arguing in the context of sports and more specifically the NBA. Also, what's with all the desperately forced high brow remarks?
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2013, 04:20:28 PM
Well, there was the flying forearm shiver to Lance Stephenson's head.
(http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/wadestephenson.gif)
yup, looks like a forarm shiver that happened very quickly while Wade was taking a skip hop to avoid running into an illegal moving screen. Intentional? Maybe.
Quote from: RawdogDX on June 04, 2013, 04:17:32 PM
How long has it been since the bucks won a play off series again?
I'm from MKE and let me assure you there is only 1 reason why the Bucks exist. That reason is the same as why you (who I'm assuming don't like the Bucks) should want them to be at least marginally successful.
The Bucks one and only* purpose on this world is to get the Warriors a new stadium. Period. End of story. Who cares if they win, lose, or forfeit, so long as they do so on the road to getting Milwaukee's real basketball team a new stadium.
Note: To Herb Kohl they are also used for tax purposes.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2013, 04:20:28 PM
Well, there was the flying forearm shiver to Lance Stephenson's head.
(http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/wadestephenson.gif)
and people complain about Wade flopping...
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on June 04, 2013, 04:43:47 PM
and people complain about Wade flopping...
Yeah, getting nailed in the side of the head by a leaping 230-pound man should
never cause one to fall.
But I can't imagine why people would suggest Wade flops.
(http://i.minus.com/ibhTszrezUHFOY.gif)
Quote from: willie warrior on June 04, 2013, 04:30:57 PM
Yeah, Wisconsin sure has an inferiority complex, especially when all those IP's make their weekend/vacation exits to Wisconsin.
I don't know what IP means but i'm going to assume you mean people from the chicago land area. I don't see how that relates to your inferiority complex at all. Growing up in chicago i never heard anything said worse than calling you 'cheeseheads'(cause your football team wears yellow helmets and you love cheese). The amount of vitriol i experienced towards people from my state when i got to marquette was shocking.
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 04, 2013, 11:43:40 AM
Let me just say this...
It probably surprises no one here that you are a fan of Stephen A. Smith.
+1
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2013, 04:54:19 PM
Yeah, getting nailed in the side of the head by a leaping 230-pound man should never cause one to fall.
But I can't imagine why people would suggest Wade flops.
(http://i.minus.com/ibhTszrezUHFOY.gif)
Credit Coach Crean for teachin' that move.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 04, 2013, 06:40:17 PM
Credit Coach Crean for teachin' that move.
An art form demonstrated masterfully by Will Sheehey against Minnesota this past season. Who can forget CTC instructing his charges to "watch for the elbows" during the time out immediately before Sheehey's award winning performance? Sir Lawrence Olivier must have been proud.
Coach Tom Crean - Professor of Dramatics.
Professor Crean instructing players on how to "take an elbow" with full effect
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsWZ5JLHPruOsljIcQzJRqkjrc08WAVNK1y9R4qChQqpM7PsYP)
Sheehey goes down after receiving a crushing blow to the jaw!
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQoDIwfcMtw16etgnUEtiZP_r28pXzrLLHGtw0bqnWmTyOjV8Lcsw)
Sheehey crawls on the floor like a dog while writhing in intense agony! Is there not a God in Heaven??
(http://www.yardbarker.com/media/b/3/b38456c33277ef4bc5939b501a440b461ca35001/medium/ind.jpg)
Bringing up First Take is like posting URL links from BR...
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2013, 03:49:57 PM
And for what feels like the millionth time, Wade is the worst (or best, depending on your perspective) at it.
If you don't notice it, that's because you are not paying enough attention ... or, more likely, can't see it or don't want to see it through your blue-and-gold tinted glasses.
Wade isn't even close to the worst in the NBA. I am surprised that you actually believe that, and I am stunned that you are suggesting that all those who don't "aren't paying attention".
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on June 04, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
I honestly don't know any Bulls fans who actually believed that Wade was going to sign with the team when he was a FA, nor do I know any Bulls fans who are "butthurt" because he chose to stay in Miami. That notion is largely created by Illinois-hating Wisconsinites.
Found some. Unless of course these posts were all from Illinois-hating Wisconsinites.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=20946.0
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=15098.0;all
First Take is the worst program ESPN has to offer. I'd much rather watch college softball then listen to two idiots in Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless talk about sports.
Honestly, being a sports analyst has to be the easiest job one can ask for. Smith is an absolute idiot.
Quote from: keefe on June 04, 2013, 07:53:10 PM
An art form demonstrated masterfully by Will Sheehey against Minnesota this past season. Who can forget CTC instructing his charges to "watch for the elbows" during the time out immediately before Sheehey's award winning performance? Sir Lawrence Olivier must have been proud.
Coach Tom Crean - Professor of Dramatics.
Professor Crean instructing players on how to "take an elbow" with full effect
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Sheehey goes down after receiving a crushing blow to the jaw!
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Sheehey crawls on the floor like a dog while writhing in intense agony! Is there not a God in Heaven??
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This is NOT coaching; this is Stuntmen 101.
QuoteI honestly don't know any Bulls fans who actually believed that Wade was going to sign with the team when he was a FA, nor do I know any Bulls fans who are "butthurt" because he chose to stay in Miami. That notion is largely created by Illinois-hating Wisconsinites.
Found some. Unless of course these posts were all from Illinois-hating Wisconsinites.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=20946.0
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=15098.0;all
Did you get constipated trying to force this to fit your bill. Not one comment in those threads has any butthurt bulls fans. And yes Bulls fans wanted any of the big three.. who wouldn't have.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2013, 04:54:19 PM
Yeah, getting nailed in the side of the head by a leaping 230-pound man should never cause one to fall.
But I can't imagine why people would suggest Wade flops.
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Have you actually watched the video of Wade/Stephenson? And I mean really watched it? It's a glancing blow at best. There's no force behind it because Wade isn't trying to hit him.
If a 230 pound man put any kind of effort into that kind of blow, the blowee would probably go down and his reaction would be appropriate.
Let's face it. In this particular example Stephenson caused the contact by running in front of Wade while he's attempting to get down court. Wade tries to get around him. That's it.
Quote from: RawdogDX on June 04, 2013, 05:04:43 PM
I don't know what IP means but i'm going to assume you mean people from the chicago land area. I don't see how that relates to your inferiority complex at all. Growing up in chicago i never heard anything said worse than calling you 'cheeseheads'(cause your football team wears yellow helmets and you love cheese). The amount of vitriol i experienced towards people from my state when i got to marquette was shocking.
It figures you feel that way. Speaking of the cheeseheads, they are kicking your team's ass regularly these days. For you it can be graciously said, that IP+Illinois people who you hear regularly referred to as FIPs. Use your own imagination. If Wisconsin sucks so much, why do so many IP's vacation there. And then in deer season, it is like the million man march to Wisconsin.
Quote from: setyoursightsnorth on June 04, 2013, 11:08:22 PM
First Take is the worst program ESPN has to offer. I'd much rather watch college softball then listen to two idiots in Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless talk about sports.
Honestly, being a sports analyst has to be the easiest job one can ask for. Smith is an absolute idiot.
If it is so easy, why are you not on ESPN at 200k per?
Quote from: willie warrior on June 05, 2013, 07:51:19 AM
If it is so easy, why are you not on ESPN at 200k per?
He didn't say it was easy to get...he said it was an easy job.
Within the media, Smith's nickname is "Screamin' A. Smith."
He has very little credibility.
It doesn't take a Ph.D. to know that Wade is hurting. Lots of wear and tear on that body from hundreds -- maybe thousands -- of hard falls to the court over the past decade.
Quote from: damuts222 on June 05, 2013, 07:05:58 AM
Did you get constipated trying to force this to fit your bill. Not one comment in those threads has any butthurt bulls fans. And yes Bulls fans wanted any of the big three.. who wouldn't have.
Seriously?
The original poster said he "honestly doesn't know any Bulls fans that believed Wade would sign with the team." One of those threads is TITLED "Dwyane Wade will be a Chicago Bull in 2010".
I really had to try hard to force that one to fit didn't I?
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 05, 2013, 07:57:49 AM
He didn't say it was easy to get...he said it was an easy job.
Like a job with the city of Chicago.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 05, 2013, 09:07:07 AM
Like a job with the city of Chicago.
Those are easy to get if you "donate" to the right people.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 05, 2013, 07:48:40 AM
It figures you feel that way. Speaking of the cheeseheads, they are kicking your team's ass regularly these days. For you it can be graciously said, that IP+Illinois people who you hear regularly referred to as FIPs. Use your own imagination. If Wisconsin sucks so much, why do so many IP's vacation there. And then in deer season, it is like the million man march to Wisconsin.
When did anyone say that Wisconsin sucks? Maybe you are projecting that a little bit buddy. I just don't get why you guys hate "IP"?
QuoteSeriously?
The original poster said he "honestly doesn't know any Bulls fans that believed Wade would sign with the team." One of those threads is TITLED "Dwyane Wade will be a Chicago Bull in 2010".
I really had to try hard to force that one to fit didn't I?
Your whole mantra has been that only butthurt Bulls fans and people with ulterior motives have "turned" against Wade in multiple threads. I'll repeat myself from my previous comment, of course Bulls fans wanted any of the big three including Wade and believed/hoped there was a chance.
However, MU alum or not, Wade...and LBJ should win best actor and best supporting actor at this years Oscars. Just because everyone else in the NBA is doing it doesn't mean that it's right or that I have to like it. Yes, Wade is not the only one but I don't like any of the players doing it and neither does the league, hence the fines. But I dislike Wade's flopping and the NBA's and wish the NBA playoffs were like the mid-90's once more. Everyone is always bitching about soccer players flopping but now NBA players have also become primadonnas. Rant complete.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9323865/flopping-problem-postseason (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9323865/flopping-problem-postseason)
Quote from: MUSF on June 05, 2013, 08:58:02 AM
Seriously?
The original poster said he "honestly doesn't know any Bulls fans that believed Wade would sign with the team." One of those threads is TITLED "Dwyane Wade will be a Chicago Bull in 2010".
I really had to try hard to force that one to fit didn't I?
OK, one person thought it was a real possibility and his info came from sources who also told him that LeBron to Miami was never going to happen. The thread titled "Dwyane Wade will be a Chicago Bull in 2010" was started a year before Wade was even a FA and was about how the Bulls were attempting to free some cap space.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 05, 2013, 07:48:40 AM
It figures you feel that way. Speaking of the cheeseheads, they are kicking your team's ass regularly these days. For you it can be graciously said, that IP+Illinois people who you hear regularly referred to as FIPs. Use your own imagination. If Wisconsin sucks so much, why do so many IP's vacation there. And then in deer season, it is like the million man march to Wisconsin.
Am I the only person who sees the irony in bashing Illinoisans in a thread defending Dwyane Wade (and his shenanigans on the court)?
QuoteAm I the only person who sees the irony in bashing Illinoisans in a thread defending Dwyane Wade (and his shenanigans on the court)?
Its Illinois its Illinois
Hey its IP that keep the rural economy of Wisc. afloat. I spent many summers all over the state visiting people who paid higher multiples on taxes because of where their cottages were and patronised local businesses. That's where all the money for road construction and snow plowing jobs come from.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 05, 2013, 07:48:40 AM
It figures you feel that way. Speaking of the cheeseheads, they are kicking your team's ass regularly these days. For you it can be graciously said, that IP+Illinois people who you hear regularly referred to as FIPs. Use your own imagination. If Wisconsin sucks so much, why do so many IP's vacation there. And then in deer season, it is like the million man march to Wisconsin.
This is the best reply i could have asked for. First off, it's FIB not FIP. I was called a FIB at school, at my girlfriend's house, and the marquette tribune printed an opinion piece about 'FIB parents' and how they didn't know where they were going.
Yes, the Packers are a far better team right now, notice you had to bring that up, because you have an inferiority complex.
I LOVE wisconsin, i would never say it sucks. I love the people and culture. I've camped there since i was a kid. I went to school there. I met my wife there. I would never say it sucks, you just read that into my comments. Why? because you have an inferiority complex!
Having an inferiority complex isn't that bad, it's better than a superiority complex, a persecution complex, and many other things. We all have quirks, sometimes our culture causes a larger than average percentage of people to have a similar quirk. This could be caused by our religious, ethnic, national, or local cultural herritage. And in my honest opinion, people from wisconsin tend to display an inferiority complex. It doesn't mean i dislike you.
Quote from: elephantraker on June 05, 2013, 12:05:32 PM
Hey its IP that keep the rural economy of Wisc. afloat. I spent many summers all over the state visiting people who paid higher multiples on taxes because of where their cottages were and patronised local businesses. That's where all the money for road construction and snow plowing jobs come from.
I once had a conversation with a few guys from green bay. They were complaining about Fibs and how they drove up to stay in wisconsin for weekends. I told them that they should be thankful for our tax dollars and informed them that, in chicago, commercials from the wisconsin tourism board were constantly telling us to go there. This angered them immensely and they declared 'It's not worth it, we should stop running the ads. I'll pay more taxes.'
Quote from: RawdogDX on June 05, 2013, 08:01:08 PM
This is the best reply i could have asked for. First off, it's FIB not FIP. I was called a FIB at school, at my girlfriend's house, and the marquette tribune printed an opinion piece about 'FIB parents' and how they didn't know where they were going.
Yes, the Packers are a far better team right now, notice you had to bring that up, because you have an inferiority complex.
I LOVE wisconsin, i would never say it sucks. I love the people and culture. I've camped there since i was a kid. I went to school there. I met my wife there. I would never say it sucks, you just read that into my comments. Why? because you have an inferiority complex!
Having an inferiority complex isn't that bad, it's better than a superiority complex, a persecution complex, and many other things. We all have quirks, sometimes our culture causes a larger than average percentage of people to have a similar quirk. This could be caused by our religious, ethnic, national, or local cultural herritage. And in my honest opinion, people from wisconsin tend to display an inferiority complex. It doesn't mean i dislike you.
Wow. How incredibly magnanimous. Your infinite beneficence is humbling.
Quote from: keefe on June 05, 2013, 08:08:00 PM
Wow. How incredibly magnanimous. Your infinite beneficence is humbling.
Just keep proving my point buddy. I don't think i'm better than you, you think i think that. Sounds a little bit like an inferiority complex.
I sincerely like your state. I noticed that you, as a group, seem to project a certain trait. I don't know how better to express that. If you don't have anything real (other than pointless sarcasm) to say please just let the adults talk.
Quote from: RawdogDX on June 05, 2013, 08:18:47 PM
Just keep proving my point buddy. I don't think i'm better than you, you think i think that. Sounds a little bit like an inferiority complex.
I sincerely like your state. I noticed that you, as a group, seem to project a certain trait. I don't know how better to express that. If you don't have anything real (other than pointless sarcasm) to say please just let the adults talk.
Uh, I am not from Wisconsin. But if I were I would be suitably humbled to be in the presence of such greatness. Your condescension is indeed palpable.
Frankly, I find Wisconsin to be a lovely place with friendly residents who share a proud tradition of fiscal conservatism and progressive social conventions. Unfortunately, I have yet to detect any sense of acute inadequacy among the populace.
But I digress. Do forgive my impudence. I should really let you rejoin the adults in meaningful conversation. Superciliousness can be so intellectually and emotionally taxing, especially for a child. But then I wouldn't know. Carry on as I am certain looking down one's nose is the good fight, as it were.
Quote from: keefe on June 05, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
Uh, I am not from Wisconsin. But if I were I would be suitably humbled to be in the presence of such greatness. Your condescension is indeed palpable.
Frankly, I find Wisconsin to be a lovely place with friendly residents who share a proud tradition of fiscal conservatism and progressive social conventions. Unfortunately, I have yet to detect any sense of acute inadequacy among the populace.
But I digress. Do forgive my impudence. I should really let you rejoin the adults in meaningful conversation. Superciliousness can be so intellectually and emotionally taxing, especially for a child. But then I wouldn't know. Carry on as I am certain looking down one's nose is the good fight, as it were.
I am not being condescending you fucktard. Not even a little. you don't know me so stop reading into everything i say. If wisconsin had mild winters i'd live there. Was that condescending? According to you it was. Eat a d.
Quote from: RawdogDX on June 05, 2013, 09:00:53 PM
I am not being condescending you unnatural carnal knowledgetard. Not even a little. you don't know me so stop reading into everything i say. If wisconsin had mild winters i'd live there. Was that condescending? According to you it was. Eat a d.
Ah, the Rawdog arrogance shining through after an extended period of benign neglect. The world makes sense once more.
Sorry I couldn't be a Wisconsonite for you so that your priggish hubris could tear harder and deeper into my fractured sense of mediocrity.
I hear the Germans enjoyed living in the Ukraine, too. If only they had behaved themselves better they might have been able to stay longer. Pity that Marshal Zhukov had to make them go away. So how did you enjoy your time in Milwaukee among the unwashed hoi polloi? Do tell!
I apologize, that last post was made on an airplane after a long delay. I was hungry and It was inappropriate.
I am a professional traveler. I meet great people everywhere i go, but everywhere they are weird. I think this is one of the wisconsinite oddities(primarily when compared to IL). I"m not sure where these statements about my arrogance come from. I'm smarter than most people, but i definitely don't think i'm better than most people.
Sorry, when I was growing up in Wisconsin, it was always FIP's. Must have been an old school thing. FIB is probably a newer PC thing.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 06, 2013, 05:59:51 AM
Sorry, when I was growing up in Wisconsin, it was always FIP's. Must have been an old school thing. FIB is probably a newer PC thing.
Pennyhead.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 06, 2013, 05:59:51 AM
Sorry, when I was growing up in Wisconsin, it was always FIP's. Must have been an old school thing. FIB is probably a newer PC thing.
I have never heard of any of this. I guess here in Seattle we make fun of....well, no one as it wouldn't be polite. In fact it would be hurtful so we should set up a shelter for the victims of emotional verbal abuse. And enact tough laws to deal with renegades from civil conversation because the government knows best how you should think...and act...and behave...
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Quote from: willie warrior on June 06, 2013, 05:59:51 AM
Sorry, when I was growing up in Wisconsin, it was always FIP's. Must have been an old school thing. FIB is probably a newer PC thing.
B= B@$tard, so not exactly...
never heard of FIP either and I have lived here over 50 years, so what is the 'P'? Does it rhyme with trick?
Quote from: Red Stripe on June 06, 2013, 03:13:33 PM
never heard of FIP either and I have lived here over 50 years, so what is the 'P'? Does it rhyme with trick?
It might rhyme with wussy
Quote from: keefe on June 06, 2013, 06:46:05 PM
It might rhyme with wussy
I'm pretty sure it rhymes with meople or, in the singular form, merson.
I'm not exactly sure why vacationing or spending long weekends in Wisconsin invalidates anyone's claim that they prefer Chicago, or Illinois, to Wisconsin. I had friends in college who had lake houses in Kentucky and some now that have them in Indiana, and in both cases would not want to live in either state. That's precisely why you have a vacation home and not a permanent residence. It's nice for a getaway, but you wouldn't want to be there all the time.
Either way, this is all stupid. It's even stupider when football is brought into it. Chicago is a world class city with its share of issues. Milwaukee is a city with alot of history that's done alot for itself over the last decade. Preferring one to the other doesn't make either shitty. I grew up in Milwaukee, now live in Chicago, and have no immediate plans to move back to the former. To some I would be labeled a big city snob or some FIB nonsense. That's where this inferiority complex label comes from. I don't think it goes the other way as much because alot of Chicago residents started somewhere smaller and see both sides. Idk, but I feel like people who spent time in a big city, and moved to somewhere like Milwaukee, have their reasons for not liking city life but are far less likely to toss around stupid labels.
YMMV
Quote from: JWags85 on June 07, 2013, 09:54:34 AM
I'm not exactly sure why vacationing or spending long weekends in Wisconsin invalidates anyone's claim that they prefer Chicago, or Illinois, to Wisconsin. I had friends in college who had lake houses in Kentucky and some now that have them in Indiana, and in both cases would not want to live in either state. That's precisely why you have a vacation home and not a permanent residence. It's nice for a getaway, but you wouldn't want to be there all the time.
Either way, this is all stupid. It's even stupider when football is brought into it. Chicago is a world class city with its share of issues. Milwaukee is a city with alot of history that's done alot for itself over the last decade. Preferring one to the other doesn't make either crapty. I grew up in Milwaukee, now live in Chicago, and have no immediate plans to move back to the former. To some I would be labeled a big city snob or some FIB nonsense. That's where this inferiority complex label comes from. I don't think it goes the other way as much because alot of Chicago residents started somewhere smaller and see both sides. Idk, but I feel like people who spent time in a big city, and moved to somewhere like Milwaukee, have their reasons for not liking city life but are far less likely to toss around stupid labels.
YMMV
You know that Milwaukee is also a big city and has "city life," right? It's not Chicago, but it's not the middle of the sticks either.
I grew up in the Chicago suburbs, went to Marquette, moved to downtown Chicago for a couple of years and then found my way back to Milwaukee. I loved living in downtown Chicago as a single person who could take the train to work, but living in Chicago with a family or, worse yet, the Chicago suburbs? No thanks! As a 30-something husband and father, I much prefer the more manageable, smaller big city life.