http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/hawaii-names-men-teams-rainbow-warriors-154306367.html
well they added the rainbow back, they were still the warriors. so that means we can be the rainbows right? cool
Golden Warriers, seems pretty obvious. :D
Won't Jeff Gordon and Hendrix Motorsports be upset that Hawaii stole their nickname?
See my avatar.
Quote from: MU8285 on May 15, 2013, 03:26:34 PM
Golden Warriers, seems pretty obvious. :D
During all that "Gold" / name change nonsense I thought a reasonable compromise would be "War Eagles"
What a PR nightmare that shitshow was!
Following Hawaii's example of incorporating all previous nicknames into one, clearly we need to change our names to "the Hilltopper Eagles Golden Warrior Avalanche".
Quote from: MU_Iceman on May 16, 2013, 10:34:49 AM
During all that "Gold" / name change nonsense I thought a reasonable compromise would be "War Eagles"
That is incredibly bad ass, but unfortunately already has a unique niche at Auburn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Eagle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Eagle)
In a different context, it makes me think of a MC patch. I don't think the Jesuits would get behind the 1% mentality.
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Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on May 16, 2013, 11:12:38 AM
That is incredibly bad ass, but unfortunately already has a unique niche at Auburn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Eagle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Eagle)
In a different context, it makes me think of a MC patch. I don't think the Jesuits would get behind the 1% mentality.
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To build on that, I think they would probably shy away from anything with the word "War" in it. Personally, I love the name Warriors, but I am surprised that a Jesuit University even considered "Warrior" as a nickname because all Jesus preached was peace.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 16, 2013, 11:30:42 AM
To build on that, I think they would probably shy away from anything with the word "War" in it. Personally, I love the name Warriors, but I am surprised that a Jesuit University even considered "Warrior" as a nickname because all Jesus preached was peace.
But the Vatican has sponsored significant intellectual investigation into the concept of Jus in bello or the Just War. Augustine wrote that, "The commandment forbidding killing is not broken by those who wage war on the authority of God."
Thomas Aquinas, writing in the age of emergent nation states, outlined three principles upon which a polity might wage war while adhering to Church doctrine:
- War must be for a good, proper, and just purpose. It must never be for self-gain, aggrandizement, or enrichment.
- War must be conducted, undertaken, and waged by a properly instituted competent authority which governs in a state of grace.
- The central motive of war must always be peace.
As a warrior guided by ethical imperatives, moral sanction of the legitimacy to employ lethal force to counter the inherent chaos and violence of the international arena is an essential warrant. And Jus in bello further governs the use of lethal force according to strict principles of Necessity, Distinction, and Proportion. These are lessons seared into the brain of every Second Lieutenant who dreams of flying an F 16 into Harms' Way. The lessons are reinforced at Squadron Officer School, Air Command and Staff College, and Air War College.
The Church has played a central role in developing what is a foundational tenet for international governance of the behavior of states. That thinking has served as the basis for today's Law of Armed Conflict. The LOAC guides the decision-making and actions of US service personnel engaged in lethal force engagements. Because of my studies at Georgetown Prep and Marquette I applied what I learned from Augustine's City of God and Aquinas' Summa Theologica while mission planning in the hangar and operating outside the wire. I fervently pray that Jesuitical perspective made me a better warrior.
Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 06:48:29 PM
But the Vatican has sponsored significant intellectual investigation into the concept of Jus in bello or the Just War. Augustine wrote that, "The commandment forbidding killing is not broken by those who wage war on the authority of God."
Thomas Aquinas, writing in the age of emergent nation states, outlined three principles upon which a polity might wage war while adhering to Church doctrine:
- War must be for a good, proper, and just purpose. It must never be for self-gain, aggrandizement, or enrichment.
- War must be conducted, undertaken, and waged by a properly instituted competent authority which governs in a state of grace.
- The central motive of war must always be peace.
As a warrior guided by ethical imperatives, moral sanction of the legitimacy to employ lethal force to counter the inherent chaos and violence of the international arena is an essential warrant. And Jus in bello further governs the use of lethal force according to strict principles of Necessity, Distinction, and Proportion. These are lessons seared into the brain of every Second Lieutenant who dreams of flying an F 16 into Harms' Way. The lessons are reinforced at Squadron Officer School, Air Command and Staff College, and Air War College.
The Church has played a central role in developing what is a foundational tenet for international governance of the behavior of states. That thinking has served as the basis for today's Law of Armed Conflict. The LOAC guides the decision-making and actions of US service personnel engaged in lethal force engagements. Because of my studies at Georgetown Prep and Marquette I applied what I learned from Augustine's City of God and Aquinas' Summa Theologica while mission planning in the hangar and operating outside the wire. I fervently pray that Jesuitical perspective made me a better warrior.
And I'm just saying Jesus would probably disagree.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 16, 2013, 08:42:19 PM
And I'm just saying Jesus would probably disagree.
First of all, you have no idea what Jesus would say. But we do know what Augustine and Aquinas said about it and their writings serve as the basis for Jus in Bello. I guess you know better than they. Assuming of course you have read anything by them.
If it were a perfect world we wouldn't need a Marine Corps. Fact is it is a dangerous, violent world filled with malicious intent. And if it were not for brave young men willing to stand up to evil we would all be speaking German. Or Japanese. Or Russian. You are entitled to believe what you will. All I ask is that you thank a veteran for giving you that privilege.
Some men run to the sound of danger while others flee. Thank God those brave men who are willing to confront the execrable have an ethical code which guides their actions.
Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 10:50:36 PM
First of all, you have no idea what Jesus would say. But we do know what Augustine and Aquinas said about it and their writings serve as the basis for Jus in Bello. I guess you know better than they. Assuming of course you have read anything by them.
If it were a perfect world we wouldn't need a Marine Corps. Fact is it is a dangerous, violent world filled with malicious intent. And if it were not for brave young men willing to stand up to evil we would all be speaking German. Or Japanese. Or Russian. You are entitled to believe what you will. All I ask is that you thank a veteran for giving you that privilege.
Some men run to the sound of danger while others flee. Thank God those brave men who are willing to confront the execrable have an ethical code which guides their actions.
Or you can have a CinC that willfully violates the USMC code by making 2 young Marines hold an umbrella in direct violation of their uniform protocol.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 16, 2013, 11:26:05 PM
Or you can have a CinC that willfully violates the USMC code by making 2 young Marines hold an umbrella in direct violation of their uniform protocol.
I share your outrage. Proud warriors reduced to yard jockeys.
Thank God they had St Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica to dictate proportionality and restraint in their response.
Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 11:37:03 PM
I share your outrage. Proud warriors reduced to yard jockeys.
Thank God they had St Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica to dictate proportionality and restraint in their response.
the sad thing is that those 2 Marines will accept whatever discipline is doled out to them by the corps, and will continue to hold their heads high as only a Marine could do.
Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 10:50:36 PM
First of all, you have no idea what Jesus would say. But we do know what Augustine and Aquinas said about it and their writings serve as the basis for Jus in Bello. I guess you know better than they. Assuming of course you have read anything by them.
If it were a perfect world we wouldn't need a Marine Corps. Fact is it is a dangerous, violent world filled with malicious intent. And if it were not for brave young men willing to stand up to evil we would all be speaking German. Or Japanese. Or Russian. You are entitled to believe what you will. All I ask is that you thank a veteran for giving you that privilege.
Some men run to the sound of danger while others flee. Thank God those brave men who are willing to confront the execrable have an ethical code which guides their actions.
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Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 10:50:36 PM
First of all, you have no idea what Jesus would say. But we do know what Augustine and Aquinas said about it and their writings serve as the basis for Jus in Bello. I guess you know better than they. Assuming of course you have read anything by them.
If it were a perfect world we wouldn't need a Marine Corps. Fact is it is a dangerous, violent world filled with malicious intent. And if it were not for brave young men willing to stand up to evil we would all be speaking German. Or Japanese. Or Russian. You are entitled to believe what you will. All I ask is that you thank a veteran for giving you that privilege.
Some men run to the sound of danger while others flee. Thank God those brave men who are willing to confront the execrable have an ethical code which guides their actions.
Nevermind. Not the place.
There's the Bart Simpson theory of war.
"There are no good wars with the following exceptions: the American Revolution, World War II & the Star Wars Trilogy."
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 16, 2013, 11:26:05 PM
Or you can have a CinC that willfully violates the USMC code by making 2 young Marines hold an umbrella in direct violation of their uniform protocol.
ok...so I have to ask. Why can't a marine use an umbrella?
Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 06:48:29 PM
But the Vatican has sponsored significant intellectual investigation into the concept of Jus in bello or the Just War. Augustine wrote that, "The commandment forbidding killing is not broken by those who wage war on the authority of God."
Thomas Aquinas, writing in the age of emergent nation states, outlined three principles upon which a polity might wage war while adhering to Church doctrine:
- War must be for a good, proper, and just purpose. It must never be for self-gain, aggrandizement, or enrichment.
- War must be conducted, undertaken, and waged by a properly instituted competent authority which governs in a state of grace.
- The central motive of war must always be peace.
As a warrior guided by ethical imperatives, moral sanction of the legitimacy to employ lethal force to counter the inherent chaos and violence of the international arena is an essential warrant. And Jus in bello further governs the use of lethal force according to strict principles of Necessity, Distinction, and Proportion. These are lessons seared into the brain of every Second Lieutenant who dreams of flying an F 16 into Harms' Way. The lessons are reinforced at Squadron Officer School, Air Command and Staff College, and Air War College.
The Church has played a central role in developing what is a foundational tenet for international governance of the behavior of states. That thinking has served as the basis for today's Law of Armed Conflict. The LOAC guides the decision-making and actions of US service personnel engaged in lethal force engagements. Because of my studies at Georgetown Prep and Marquette I applied what I learned from Augustine's City of God and Aquinas' Summa Theologica while mission planning in the hangar and operating outside the wire. I fervently pray that Jesuitical perspective made me a better warrior.
I love talkin' hoops!! Go Marquette!!
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on May 17, 2013, 07:39:38 AM
ok...so I have to ask. Why can't a marine use an umbrella?
It's in the Marine uniform code. Male Marines may not carry an umbrella while in uniform.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 17, 2013, 09:21:32 AM
It's in the Marine uniform code. Male Marines may not carry an umbrella while in uniform.
What about female Marines?
Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 06:48:29 PM
But the Vatican has sponsored significant intellectual investigation into the concept of Jus in bello or the Just War. Augustine wrote that, "The commandment forbidding killing is not broken by those who wage war on the authority of God."
Thomas Aquinas, writing in the age of emergent nation states, outlined three principles upon which a polity might wage war while adhering to Church doctrine:
- War must be for a good, proper, and just purpose. It must never be for self-gain, aggrandizement, or enrichment.
- War must be conducted, undertaken, and waged by a properly instituted competent authority which governs in a state of grace.
- The central motive of war must always be peace.
As a warrior guided by ethical imperatives, moral sanction of the legitimacy to employ lethal force to counter the inherent chaos and violence of the international arena is an essential warrant. And Jus in bello further governs the use of lethal force according to strict principles of Necessity, Distinction, and Proportion. These are lessons seared into the brain of every Second Lieutenant who dreams of flying an F 16 into Harms' Way. The lessons are reinforced at Squadron Officer School, Air Command and Staff College, and Air War College.
The Church has played a central role in developing what is a foundational tenet for international governance of the behavior of states. That thinking has served as the basis for today's Law of Armed Conflict. The LOAC guides the decision-making and actions of US service personnel engaged in lethal force engagements. Because of my studies at Georgetown Prep and Marquette I applied what I learned from Augustine's City of God and Aquinas' Summa Theologica while mission planning in the hangar and operating outside the wire. I fervently pray that Jesuitical perspective made me a better warrior.
we fight for resources and power (usually through the lens of religion)...rarely for peace, rarely for reasons i believe my God would condone.
the world is a violent and scary place, which is what we made of it, in the name of religion.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 17, 2013, 09:21:32 AM
It's in the Marine uniform code. Male Marines may not carry an umbrella while in uniform.
Doesn't really answer the underlying question. So it's in their rulebook...why? Is it unmanly? Does it give the enemy an advantage?
Going in a change of direction, here's the Golden State crowd chanting "Warriors, Warriors" after their Game 6 loss last night.
That chant sounds great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1qRdaA0zqA&feature=player_embedded#!
Quote from: avid1010 on May 17, 2013, 09:32:15 AM
we fight for resources and power (usually through the lens of religion)...rarely for peace, rarely for reasons i believe my God would condone.
the world is a violent and scary place, which is what we made of it, in the name of religion.
People throughout history have wanted to take other people's stuff and have been willing (individually and in groups) to kill to do it. Religion often is a convenient way to dehumanize/demonize the enemy (as are race, culture, "they started it", etc) but the takers will always find justification somewhere.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 17, 2013, 09:21:32 AM
It's in the Marine uniform code. Male Marines may not carry an umbrella while in uniform.
For whatever reason, for many years no member of the military was allowed to use an umbrella while in uniform under the uniform regs of each service. In the '90's both the Air Force and the Navy changed their uniform regs to allow use of an umbrella while on duty. The Army and Marine Corps still do not allow it.
I have heard that the prohibition is based on that it conflicts with weapons handling but only security forces are armed while in garrison. I really suspect it has to do with someone's notion of manliness.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 16, 2013, 11:26:05 PM
Or you can have a CinC that willfully violates the USMC code by making 2 young Marines hold an umbrella in direct violation of their uniform protocol.
There was always something false about a certain President saluting the Marine or Airman at the base of Marine 1/AF 1 given the Royal Couple's disdain for the military. The military will always demonstrate unquestioned loyalty to the CinC, even if that loyalty is not reciprocated.
Pretty sure the vatican flat out declared the current war did not meet the requirements of just wars.
Quote from: keefe on May 17, 2013, 11:42:26 AM
There was always something false about a certain President saluting the Marine or Airman at the base of Marine 1/AF 1 given the Royal Couple's disdain for the military. The military will always demonstrate unquestioned loyalty to the CinC, even if that loyalty is not reciprocated.
So basically, you're just an a-hole.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 17, 2013, 11:56:21 AM
So basically, you're just an a-hole.
Don't forget to thank him for his service.
Quote from: tower912 on May 17, 2013, 11:46:26 AM
Pretty sure the vatican flat out declared the current war did not meet the requirements of just wars.
You mean the one where religious fanatics perverted their dogma to allow surprise attacks against unarmed civilians to include bombing US embassies in east Africa, hijacking civilian airliners filled with women and children and flying them into skyscrapers, planting bombs on subways, buses, and trains at the height of rush hour?
I have come upon villages in Afghanistan soon after the Taliban has sexually assaulted girls in front of their fathers then killed the entire family for the crime against Islam of allowing females to possess books. I have been on the far side of the market place in Ramadi and Samarra when teenage suicide bombers have blown themselves up in the name of Allah, thereby killing dozens of women and children who were simply buying groceries.
I can see how the Vatican would struggle with seeing how the current jihad waged by the Taliban, al-Qaeda, AQI, Abu Sayyaf, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, Al-Shabaab, Jemaah Islamiyah, Ansar al-Islam, etc... is in any way just.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 17, 2013, 11:56:21 AM
So basically, you're just an a-hole.
Intellectual inferiority must be a sad thing.
Quote from: keefe on May 17, 2013, 12:18:05 PM
Intellectual inferiority must be a sad thing.
You'd know best. Insinuating the PUSA doesn't have respect for the military is the height of ignorance.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 17, 2013, 12:27:42 PM
You'd know best. Insinuating the PUSA doesn't have respect for the military is the height of ignorance.
Not speaking of the current guy.
Quote from: keefe on May 17, 2013, 11:42:26 AM
There was always something false about a certain President saluting the Marine or Airman at the base of Marine 1/AF 1 given the Royal Couple's disdain for the military. The military will always demonstrate unquestioned loyalty to the CinC, even if that loyalty is not reciprocated.
I'm an ex-Marine, and no USMC Uniform Code would/could/should ever stand in the way of protecting the CinC from the enemy or the elements, for that matter. Your excesses in so many ways prompt me to put you on "Ignore."