Juan Anderson is down to Oregon, Cal, Weber St and Arizona St based on his tweets with Jeronne Maymon.
How would he know Maymon? Maymon was gone a year and a half before Anderson arrived
Maybe he's tweeting with Maymon's dad!
Quote from: TheFarEastMovement on May 09, 2013, 11:46:07 AM
Juan Anderson is down to Oregon, Cal, Weber St and Arizona St based on his tweets with Jeronne Maymon.
If it ends up being Weber St I'll assume Oregon, Cal and ASU weren't real possibilities.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on May 09, 2013, 11:49:20 AM
How would he know Maymon? Maymon was gone a year and a half before Anderson arrived
I don't think players / coaches take these transfer situations as personal as fans do. I would bet that Jeronne has played a fair share of pick up games with MU guys in the past 3 years.
So Juan is the "player to be named later" in the Lockett trade with ASU?
I'm with you Lenny. If he lands at WS the other schools at little or no interest. Regardless hope he finds good fit.
Quote from: The Lens on May 09, 2013, 12:09:13 PM
I don't think players / coaches take these transfer situations as personal as fans do. I would bet that Jeronne has played a fair share of pick up games with MU guys in the past 3 years.
+100
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 09, 2013, 12:06:55 PM
If it ends up being Weber St I'll assume Oregon, Cal and ASU weren't real possibilities.
Agreed. You don't choose Weber State if Oregon, Call, and ASU are legit options.
Quote from: MU82 on May 09, 2013, 11:54:22 AM
Maybe he's tweeting with Maymon's dad!
Nice.......
Quote from: Groin_pull on May 09, 2013, 01:08:28 PM
Agreed. You don't choose Weber State if Oregon, Call, and ASU are legit options.
You choose Weber St., if you want the best chance to start and be a star.
Quote from: bilsu on May 09, 2013, 01:55:13 PM
You choose Weber St., if you want the best chance to start and be a star.
Or Oregon for the best chance to win a championship and be a star.
Since he wanted to be closer to his family I always figured Cal would be the natural choice.
Quote from: frozena pizza on May 09, 2013, 02:12:55 PM
Since he wanted to be closer to his family I always figured Cal would be the natural choice.
That's kind of a standard quote for anyone who went out of town and ended up not getting the PT. How much time will he really get with his family while he's involved with Division I basketball? It should make it easier for them to come to games, though.
Moser from UNLV is going to Oregon, that team will be nasty next year. Juan should go to my Ducks!
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 09, 2013, 02:16:19 PM
That's kind of a standard quote for anyone who went out of town and ended up not getting the PT. How much time will he really get with his family while he's involved with Division I basketball? It should make it easier for them to come to games, though.
Lunch/dinner every week in the off season. 30 minute conversation at Starbucks instead of on the phone. Lots of opportunity.
Quote from: Groin_pull on May 09, 2013, 01:08:28 PM
Agreed. You don't choose Weber State if Oregon, Call, and ASU are legit options.
Weber St.= 30-35 mpg.
Oreg/Cal/ASU etc. closer to 10 mpg.
I guess it depends on what he really wants. Playing time at a mid major or sitting on the bench closer to home at a big time program.
Quote from: We R Final Four on May 09, 2013, 02:47:55 PM
Weber St.= 30-35 mpg.
Oreg/Cal/ASU etc. closer to 10 mpg.
I guess it depends on what he really wants. Playing time at a mid major or sitting on the bench closer to home at a big time program.
ASU? He'll get better than 10mpg there, Cal and Oreg it may be lower but definitely would get decent time at ASU
Quote from: frozena pizza on May 09, 2013, 02:12:55 PM
Since he wanted to be closer to his family I always figured Cal would be the natural choice.
Will need the grades to get into Cal. Very tough school to get in and it applies to athletes also.
I'd say weber st is about right.
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 09, 2013, 02:16:19 PM
That's kind of a standard quote for anyone who went out of town and ended up not getting the PT. How much time will he really get with his family while he's involved with Division I basketball? It should make it easier for them to come to games, though.
Well, yeah, but isn't this part of the reason folks on this board say all Wisconsin state stars, and especially those from Milwaukee area, should come to Marquette?
Quote from: 79Warrior on May 09, 2013, 07:49:09 PM
Will need the grades to get into Cal. Very tough school to get in and it applies to athletes also.
If I recall correctly, Cal was one of his finalists out of high school. If he could qualify then, no reason to think he couldn't now.
Quote from: Groin_pull on May 09, 2013, 01:08:28 PM
Agreed. You don't choose Weber State if Oregon, Call, and ASU are legit options.
Worked out okay for Damian Lilliard.
Quote from: We R Final Four on May 09, 2013, 02:47:55 PM
Weber St.= 30-35 mpg.
Oreg/Cal/ASU etc. closer to 10 mpg.
I guess it depends on what he really wants. Playing time at a mid major or sitting on the bench closer to home at a big time program.
So you're saying he'd get
fewer minutes as a Jr/Sr at Oregon/Cal/ASU than he got as a sophomore at MU - an Elite Eight team? Not likely.
It'd be more like 30-35 mpg at Weber State...or 25-30 at Oregon/Cal/ASU....
Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 10, 2013, 07:17:49 PM
So you're saying he'd get fewer minutes as a Jr/Sr at Oregon/Cal/ASU than he got as a sophomore at MU - an Elite Eight team? Not likely.
It'd be more like 30-35 mpg at Weber State...or 25-30 at Oregon/Cal/ASU....
Not until he can provide more offense. Hopefully, he gets confidence in his shot during the transfer year.
Think about this:
If he chooses ASU he would sit out a year being a transfer. Than in his transfer junior year he would come back to Marquette to play us since we have a home and home with them starting in ASU next year.
Would make for a very interesting game. I mean how many times has that happened? I am sure not many or at all.
In the end I think he chooses Weber St to get more playing time.
Quote from: sellit07 on May 10, 2013, 10:17:15 PM
Think about this:
If he chooses ASU he would sit out a year being a transfer. Than in his transfer junior year he would come back to Marquette to play us since we have a home and home with them starting in ASU next year.
Would make for a very interesting game. I mean how many times has that happened? I am sure not many or at all.
That's a great point!
Quote from: TheFarEastMovement on May 09, 2013, 11:46:07 AM
Juan Anderson is down to Oregon, Cal, Weber St and Arizona St based on his tweets with Jeronne Maymon.
Kind of surprise UCLA is not in the mix for him...hmm. Guess not.
Quote from: sellit07 on May 10, 2013, 10:17:15 PM
Think about this:
If he chooses ASU he would sit out a year being a transfer. Than in his transfer junior year he would come back to Marquette to play us since we have a home and home with them starting in ASU next year.
Would make for a very interesting game. I mean how many times has that happened? I am sure not many or at all.
In the end I think he chooses Weber St to get more playing time.
Roseboro. In a way.
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 10, 2013, 09:42:22 PM
Not until he can provide more offense. Hopefully, he gets confidence in his shot during the transfer year.
No way does he get those minutes in PAC 12
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on May 11, 2013, 06:18:34 AM
Kind of surprise UCLA is not in the mix for him...hmm. Guess not.
Juan might be a really nice guy, but after 2 below average seasons on the court, he should be happy anyone would want him. At UCLA, Oregon they will probably recruit a better small
forward who can score. It was probably best he left MU, his playing time would even become less next year. Having Otule, Derrick Wilson and Juan on the court at the same time, would
be an offensive disaster. Hos overall hustle was excellent, but he rarely could hit an outside shot and had trouble finishing around the basket. He really needs to play the 2 to go to the
next level. The year off will really help him, I wish him the best.
You would think that people would stop writing off people as sophomores. Juan wasn't setting the world on fire by any means, but wasn't *that* much worse percentage wise and per 40 wise than Vander's sophomore year. And he couldn't work on his game all summer.
Again, people never seem to think that players improve despite all evidence to the contrary.
Stats only tell you so much. Those of us who have watched basketball can evaluate present talent and extrapolate it down the road with a high degree of success. In this particular case, it's better for Juan, and MU, that he moves on.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 12, 2013, 08:57:56 AM
Stats only tell you so much. Those of us who have watched basketball can evaluate present talent and extrapolate it down the road with a high degree of success. In this particular case, it's better for Juan, and MU, that he moves on.
The track record of this group judging anyone on the basketball floor is very poor.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 12, 2013, 08:57:56 AM
Stats only tell you so much. Those of us who have watched basketball can evaluate present talent and extrapolate it down the road with a high degree of success. In this particular case, it's better for Juan, and MU, that he moves on.
Totally agree with you warrior, Juan would have to add 30 pounds to be an effective 3, not sure that could happen. I think he could play the 2 with a year off and some serious gym
time. At MU, with Mayo, Wilson and Johnson I do not see that happening. Burton and Johnson will be getting some serious PT time at the 3 behind Jamil Wilson. Not saying he could not
improve, hope he does, but not at MU.
Quote from: 79Warrior on May 12, 2013, 12:07:16 AM
No way does he get those minutes in PAC 12
Why not? I'd say we would have won the PAC had we been in that conference. Juan averaged 13 MPG as a sophomore on an elite 8 team, which is farther than any PAC team got, so why wouldn't he average more minutes? It may not be 25-30 right away, maybe more like 20-25, but he will also have to sit out a year where he can learn the team's offense/defense and be prepared to play.
Juan is self aware and knows the score. Remember when Buzz was subbing him in and he said "Coach, you can't take Jamil out. He's on fire!"? He knows he's way behind J Wilson, that Steve Taylori is in the wings and that JJJ and Deonte Burton (whom I'm sure he's played with in open gym) arrive this summer. He loves MU and the feeling is mutual, but I just don't think there was much playing time in his future and I think he knew that.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 12, 2013, 09:50:53 AM
Juan is self aware and knows the score. Remember when Buzz was subbing him in and he said "Coach, you can't take Jamil out. He's on fire!"? He knows he's way behind J Wilson, that Steve Taylori is in the wings and that JJJ and Deonte Burton (whom I'm sure he's played with in open gym) arrive this summer. He loves MU and the feeling is mutual, but I just don't think there was much playing time in his future and I think he knew that.
My thoughts exactly. Wish he wasn't hampered by injury last summer or I think he would have progressed more. Just got caught in a numbers game and I think he could see the writing on the wall. I have a feeling he'll be a key contributor on a good team soon. I think the year off for development will serve him well, too. Hope it all works out for him.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 12, 2013, 09:01:50 AM
The track record of this group judging anyone on the basketball floor is very poor.
+ infinity
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 12, 2013, 08:57:56 AM
Stats only tell you so much. Those of us who have watched basketball can evaluate present talent and extrapolate it down the road with a high degree of success. In this particular case, it's better for Juan, and MU, that he moves on.
It is better for Juan, if he wants more playing time. It is also better for Juan, because he has a redshirt year to work on his game. However, I do not agree it is better for MU. Juan was an important part of last year's team and improve significantly over his freshmen year. Players usually continue to improve. Remember in the Wisconsin game when UW was making a run and Dekker went in for a dunk that was blocked by Anderson. It was one of the best plays of the year. Juan was always giving maximum effort and he will be missed.
I'd be surprised if Juan makes a splash wherever he lands. I think he's approaching his ceiling.
Quote from: sellit07 on May 10, 2013, 10:17:15 PM
Think about this:
If he chooses ASU he would sit out a year being a transfer. Than in his transfer junior year he would come back to Marquette to play us since we have a home and home with them starting in ASU next year.
Would make for a very interesting game. I mean how many times has that happened? I am sure not many or at all.
In the end I think he chooses Weber St to get more playing time.
Does Roseboro count?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 12, 2013, 08:45:21 PM
Does Roseboro count?
Was he ever on campus and/or enrolled? If so, then I'd say yeah.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 12, 2013, 08:45:21 PM
Does Roseboro count?
He's certainly a proud MU alum by some peoples account.
Quote from: bilsu on May 12, 2013, 05:46:00 PM
It is better for Juan, if he wants more playing time. It is also better for Juan, because he has a redshirt year to work on his game. However, I do not agree it is better for MU. Juan was an important part of last year's team and improve significantly over his freshmen year. Players usually continue to improve. Remember in the Wisconsin game when UW was making a run and Dekker went in for a dunk that was blocked by Anderson. It was one of the best plays of the year. Juan was always giving maximum effort and he will be missed.
This. I would've liked to have Senior Juan after Gardner, Wilson, and Otule all are gone. He would've been very valuable his last year.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on May 12, 2013, 09:26:39 AM
Why not? I'd say we would have won the PAC had we been in that conference. Juan averaged 13 MPG as a sophomore on an elite 8 team, which is farther than any PAC team got, so why wouldn't he average more minutes? It may not be 25-30 right away, maybe more like 20-25, but he will also have to sit out a year where he can learn the team's offense/defense and be prepared to play.
Why? Because Juan is a mid major player. Good lord what have you been watching the last two seasons.
Every team needs role players. I really liked Juan. Sorry to see him go!
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on May 13, 2013, 08:15:23 PM
Every team needs role players. I really liked Juan. Sorry to see him go!
Yep, guys like Joe Chapman. Trent Lockett filled a big role this past season.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 13, 2013, 10:10:51 AM
He's certainly a proud MU alum by some peoples account.
The irony is that Chico has greater and fonder memories of Roseboro's brief stay than does even Roseboro
Quote from: Aughnanure on May 13, 2013, 10:16:09 AM
This. I would've liked to have Senior Juan after Gardner, Wilson, and Otule all are gone. He would've been very valuable his last year.
The only way he would have been 'very valuable' is if our team sucked. It's like when a punter is very valuable.
JA got plenty of time and didn't get better. As a sophomore Blue scored double digits 7 out of his last 10 big east games. Anderson did it 0 times all season and averaged about 1.3 ppg over the last 15 games of the season(0 ppg in NCAA).
I'm shocked that anyone was shocked that Vander improved year. To throw Blue out there as evidence that Anderson would have improved is outrageous.
Quote from: RawdogDX on May 13, 2013, 11:27:34 PM
The only way he would have been 'very valuable' is if our team sucked. It's like when a punter is very valuable.
JA got plenty of time and didn't get better. As a sophomore Blue scored double digits 7 out of his last 10 big east games. Anderson did it 0 times all season and averaged about 1.3 ppg over the last 15 games of the season(0 ppg in NCAA).
I'm shocked that anyone was shocked that Vander improved year. To throw Blue out there as evidence that Anderson would have improved is outrageous.
Can someone run Juan's per 48 min stats this year? He logged more minutes, grabbed more rebounds but his foul rate seemed rather high and he wasn't shooting the ball all too well either.
This is college, so it would be 40 minutes stat.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on May 14, 2013, 01:46:26 AM
Can someone run Juan's per 48 min stats this year? He logged more minutes, grabbed more rebounds but his foul rate seemed rather high and he wasn't shooting the ball all too well either.
Done:
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/marquette/juan-anderson?per_40=1&game_type=1&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct
Oh and conference games only.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/marquette/juan-anderson?per_40=1&totals=1&hide_rank=1&game_type=2&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct
Quote from: T-Bone on May 14, 2013, 03:15:13 PM
Done:
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/marquette/juan-anderson?per_40=1&game_type=1&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct
Oh and conference games only.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/marquette/juan-anderson?per_40=1&totals=1&hide_rank=1&game_type=2&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct
Congrats on post 1000!
Quote from: RawdogDX on May 14, 2013, 04:37:05 PM
Congrats on post 1000!
I'd like to thank my teachers for not kicking me out of Business Administration.
"Damn biz ad'ers!" - CJ Crandall
CJ Crandall
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 12, 2013, 06:07:12 PM
I'd be surprised if Juan makes a splash wherever he lands. I think he's approaching his ceiling.
I really can't believe all the negative comments about a kid who has given his all to our team, the team we are supposed to be fans of. I think Juan is ready for a breakout year, just like JWilson had this past season. I will be cheering him on this next season, as I suspect we all will be.
Quote from: T-Bone on May 14, 2013, 03:15:13 PM
Done:
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/marquette/juan-anderson?per_40=1&game_type=1&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct
Oh and conference games only.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/marquette/juan-anderson?per_40=1&totals=1&hide_rank=1&game_type=2&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct
Thanks.
Yeesh. I know his available stats didn't lend to good projections but I wish him the best as he gets stronger and more minutes.
Quote from: denverMU on May 18, 2013, 11:38:50 PM
I really can't believe all the negative comments about a kid who has given his all to our team, the team we are supposed to be fans of. I think Juan is ready for a breakout year, just like JWilson had this past season. I will be cheering him on this next season, as I suspect we all will be.
How long have you been reading this board? It's been this way from the start.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 15, 2013, 12:47:31 PM
"Damn biz ad'ers!" - CJ Crandall
CJ Crandall
The Ramblin' Mandarin.
Quote from: TedBaxter on May 19, 2013, 07:42:17 AM
How long have you been reading this board? It's been this way from the start.
Almost 6 years and I still don't understand why people on this board attack kids (17-21 year olds) who work their asses off to do the best they can for MU. Juan is going to have a good year and we should all be happy for him and the rest of our team.
Quote from: denverMU on May 19, 2013, 04:59:32 PM
Almost 6 years and I still don't understand why people on this board attack kids (17-21 year olds) who work their asses off to do the best they can for MU. Juan is going to have a good year and we should all be happy for him and the rest of our team.
+1000
And these wouldn't be the same people who post and post any time there is a thread with a new rumor, would it?
Quote from: denverMU on May 19, 2013, 04:59:32 PM
Almost 6 years and I still don't understand why people on this board attack kids (17-21 year olds) who work their asses off to do the best they can for MU. Juan is going to have a good year and we should all be happy for him and the rest of our team.
Yepppp. I was very glad to have him represent the university, as he seemed like a great young man. I loved watching him freshman year; even when he was on the bench, he had so much energy and passion. Wish him well.
Quote from: denverMU on May 19, 2013, 04:59:32 PM
Almost 6 years and I still don't understand why people on this board attack kids (17-21 year olds) who work their asses off to do the best they can for MU. Juan is going to have a good year and we should all be happy for him and the rest of our team.
+1kabillion!
They are kids. Just like yours and mine.
Quote from: bilsu on May 12, 2013, 05:46:00 PM
It is better for Juan, if he wants more playing time. It is also better for Juan, because he has a redshirt year to work on his game. However, I do not agree it is better for MU. Juan was an important part of last year's team and improve significantly over his freshmen year. Players usually continue to improve. Remember in the Wisconsin game when UW was making a run and Dekker went in for a dunk that was blocked by Anderson. It was one of the best plays of the year. Juan was always giving maximum effort and he will be missed.
Agreed Juan should return and is very valuable. It would be a mistake for him to go...
Quote from: BCHoopster on May 12, 2013, 08:39:59 AM
Juan might be a really nice guy, but after 2 below average seasons on the court, he should be happy anyone would want him. At UCLA, Oregon they will probably recruit a better small
forward who can score. It was probably best he left MU, his playing time would even become less next year. Having Otule, Derrick Wilson and Juan on the court at the same time, would
be an offensive disaster. Hos overall hustle was excellent, but he rarely could hit an outside shot and had trouble finishing around the basket. He really needs to play the 2 to go to the
next level. The year off will really help him, I wish him the best.
You dont know what is going on here Juan can score but the system and role does not call for him to.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on May 20, 2013, 03:38:10 AM
You dont know what is going on here Juan can score but the system and role does not call for him to.
+1
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on May 20, 2013, 03:33:05 AM
Agreed Juan should return and is very valuable. It would be a mistake for him to go...
+10 kabillion if he returns it puts MU back in the pre-season top 10!
Nice kid and team member/player, but lets's not confuse him with the second comin' of Carmelo Anthony.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2013, 08:53:22 AM
Nice kid and team member/player, but lets's not confuse him with the second comin' of Carmelo Anthony.
He can be a double digit rebounder and scorer next year.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2013, 08:53:22 AM
Nice kid and team member/player, but lets's not confuse him with the second comin' of Carmelo Anthony.
I am sure Juan would get better, he can not get any worse. His stats would show he barely could shot the ball from distance much less finish near the basket. In college, the point guard
and three are key positions and last year MU did not get much from either position. Look at the Badgers, Sam Decker at the three, who would you want, Decker or Juan? Juan can be replaced by Jamil, proven scorer which enables McKay to play the 4. Where does Juan fit, he would play his 5 to 7 minutes again next year. Rather give those minutes to Burton or Johnson. Secondly, Juan was a great kid for the program, I would rather have seen him stay. Maybe he wants to be closer to his family, more importantly the off year will help Juan mature
as a player. I am a fan of his, hope he has a great future.
Quote from: denverMU on May 20, 2013, 09:01:43 AM
He can be a double digit rebounder and scorer next year.
No doubt, at UW-Stout.
DenverMU
Was that meant to be in teal?
Quote from: BCHoopster on May 20, 2013, 09:03:14 AM
I am sure Juan would get better, he can not get any worse.
...
I am a fan of his.
::)
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 20, 2013, 09:36:25 AM
::)
Talking out of both sides of my mouth. Yes, it sounds that way, but I do see some talent there, just has not consistently showed it. Does not mean I do not like to see him
improve, it just will be at a different school, which I hope he does great at. Still a great kid, maybe not on the basketball court yet.
Quote from: Goose on May 20, 2013, 09:19:18 AM
DenverMU
Was that meant to be in teal?
No, I think Juan is a very talented, hard working kid who still has upside and like many college players can improve greatly between sophomore and junior season.
Quote from: denverMU on May 20, 2013, 10:02:16 AM
No, I think Juan is a very talented, hard working kid who still has upside and like many college players can improve greatly between sophomore and junior season.
Especially when during the summer between their freshman and sophomore season they have surgery and miss almost all workouts.
He's baaaaaaaack.
MarquetteMBB @MarquetteMBB 2m
#mubb's Juan Anderson returning to Marquette for 2013-14 season. Sophomore forward had previously asked for release.
And now he's staying? What an odd offseason!
WTF?
so one scholie left?
Per Facebook:
Sophomore forward Juan Anderson has decided to return for the 2013-14 campaign with the Marquette University men's basketball team after asking for his release at the conclusion of last season.
"I had an extended opportunity to discuss everything with my family and after those conversations we believed, along with the coaching staff, that Marquette was the best place for me to continue my career," Anderson said.
The 6-6, 210-pounder has appeared in 59 career games for the Golden Eagles, earning 31 starting assignments. He played in all 35 games during MU's 2012-13 run to the Elite Eight and started all but four of the contests.
"After multiple conversations that have transpired over the last month with Juan and his family, he has decided to come back to Marquette and rejoin our program," head coach Buzz Williams said. "He is grateful for this opportunity and I am convinced this is the right thing to do."
https://www.facebook.com/MarquetteMensBB?ref=stream&hc_location=stream
Quote from: setyoursightsnorth on May 20, 2013, 10:44:27 AM
so one scholie left?
No...no scholarships left for next year assuming Thomas takes one. Jake takes the one Vander left.
Juan makes "the leap" this year and pushes Taylor McKay Wilson to the edge in practice. Entire team is better with him back.
Great news!!!
Good question from robmufan...
Does Juan continue to start?
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 20, 2013, 10:53:06 AM
No...no scholarships left for next year assuming Thomas takes one. Jake takes the one Vander left.
Hopefully we can find someone else to use that scholarship.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 20, 2013, 10:59:49 AM
Hopefully we can find someone else to use that scholarship.
I am fairly certain that is not going to happen.
Especially since Buzz talked Jake out of transferring and gave him the scholarship.
Head esplode!
Quote from: denverMU on May 20, 2013, 09:01:43 AM
He can be a double digit rebounder and scorer next year.
This can especially be true now that he is working with the MU team he is used to.
Glad he's coming back. You can never have too much depth and experience.
This is great news! Juan made a quantum leap last year. We now have a very solid core of players returning that played substantial minutes last year that know the system and can push the incoming freshman talent. We did before Thomas and Anderson decided to return, but the depth has increased given the unknown entity that is a freshman collegiate ball player.
Jamail Jones to MU?
Quote from: denverMU on May 20, 2013, 11:07:07 AM
This can especially be true now that he is working with the MU team he is used to.
He may have a double digit scoring game or a double digit rebounding game during the season, but I hope you are not implying he will average that. Glad he is returning, he knows the system and will play a role.
How many programs have two guys saying they are transferring and then return. Some will say the schools they wanted to transfer to, well didn't really want them and some will say they didn't know how well they had it at MU.
Welcome back.
Quote from: denverMU on May 20, 2013, 10:02:16 AM
No, I think Juan is a very talented, hard working kid who still has upside and like many college players can improve greatly between sophomore and junior season.
Well, Denver MU, we will see for sure what he think about Juan in the next 2 years. I like the idea that he is going to compete, will have the whole summer to improve, work on adding some
weight, and improving. Jamil I think is a better 4 than a 3, so Juan will have to compete hard for playing time. I am happy he is back, hope he proves me wrong!
Might be the first time two players were granted their release and came back. Juan has a lot of work to do to in order to take the next step with his game, but for team chemistry it's awesome to get a great teammate back. Regardless of what numbers he puts up he will be a team leader as an upperclassman.
Maybe he just hated VB...
I found it odd a few weeks ago when Buzz Williams had the team at the Milwaukee Brewers game to throw out the first pitch. Juan Anderson was there with the team. It was then that I thought we could see Juan Anderson back with the team.
He's a great glue guy who will benefit from a healthy off season. Continuity between seasons w/ our team helps usher the habits and attitude to the new players that has built Marquette Bball to national prominence.
I'd like to offer a MUSCOOP virtual high five to Juan Anderson and Buzz!
How come none of Crean's released players ever returned?
I wonder if there has ever been a case where two players returned after asking to leave?
But I thought Buzz cut him to make room for some future recruit... or something like that???
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2013, 11:40:26 AM
How come none of Crean's released players ever returned?
I heard Odartey Blankson is coming back next year.
This is great news. Juan is a hard working player that made some nice strides last year. If he can continue that development he will be a nice contributor or at the very least provide some depth. Last season we were lucky to avoid any major injuries but you have to assume you will lose a key player for at least a portion of the season.
Cali Kid is back for some good ol' MKE weather.....hoops too!
This will help, too bad Vander can't re-think his decision and come back too but let's hope he gets some checks with Adam Silver's name on the bottom in a few months
JS online article on it, along with an update on otule
http://m.jsonline.com/208145001.htm
Really pumped about this. I love Juan and think he will be a big time contributor the next two years. I thought his release was a fairly big loss, in comparison to most around here. Happy to have you back, Juan!!!!!
Per the JS article - "Anderson is the second player to rejoin the team this spring after requesting a transfer. The other was rising junior guard Jake Thomas."
Just because I love to rip on the JS....rising junior guard??? WTF you smokin JS? Mike Hunt is lazy.
He is actually correct here - they use "rising"' to denote what level of eligibility they are coming off of the previous year. Thomas had a transfer year, and thus was "considered" a junior last year in terms of basketball eligibility. Thus, next year he will be a "senior", despite having already graduated. So, in that context, rising junior is correct.
Quote from: CAGASS24 on May 20, 2013, 12:49:51 PM
He is actually correct here - they use "rising"' to denote what level of eligibility they are coming off of the previous year. Thomas had a transfer year, and thus was "considered" a junior last year in terms of basketball eligibility. Thus, next year he will be a "senior", despite having already graduated. So, in that context, rising junior is correct.
Not so sure about that.... pretty sure you use rising senior to describe someone coming off their junior year entering their senior year. And Mike Hunt is consistently wrong in the way he uses it.
I guess if other people use it that way I'd be wrong, he calls Juan a rising sophomore, so at least he is consistent within the article, but if you are going to use the term rising, it seems to me to make more sense saying what they are rising from as opposed to rising to, especially since next season isn't upon us yet; unfortunately!!!!!
Glad that Juan is back. Was sorry to see him go as he seemed so enthusiastic about the program and like a really good teammate. He has an infectious attitude and will push everyone hard in practice. With a solid injury-free offseason it's not a stretch that he could make significant improvements and play a key role his senior year after Jamil leaves.
Vander's coming back, too.
And D Wade ... he's still got a year of eligibility left.
Wacky offseason. Never seen anything quite like it. It's unusual enough to have one player leave and then turn around and return, let alone two.
I'm looking forward to seeing how good Juan can become. He'll have his work cut out for him due to the skilled players who are ahead of him.
And for all those calling for Steve Taylor to get big minutes next season, hope you're not also big Juan fans. They are pretty close to mutually exclusive, with Taylor having more potential IMHO.
I actually think Juan projects more to the position that Lockett played last year...IOW Juan and Taylor can be on the floor at the same time.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 20, 2013, 01:17:24 PM
I actually think Juan projects more to the position that Lockett played last year...IOW Juan and Taylor can be on the floor at the same time.
Hmmm. Hard for me to envision, especially if Derrick Wilson and Otule also are on the floor at that time, but I guess anything's possible.
Buzz has lots of pieces to fit into the picture, which would seem to be in the nice-problem-to-have realm.
Juan projects as a nice bench warmer. Taylor, McKay, Burton, Wilson and Juan. I do not see it today, but he has 6 months to improve. Good luck, Triple J will now only play guard with
Mayo, and Duane Wilson as a 2 guard rotation, Dawson and Derrick will play some point.
Quote from: BCHoopster on May 20, 2013, 01:36:07 PM
Juan projects as a nice bench warmer. Taylor, McKay, Burton, Wilson and Juan. I do not see it today, but he has 6 months to improve. Good luck, Triple J will now only play guard with
Mayo, and Duane Wilson as a 2 guard rotation, Dawson and Derrick will play some point.
Remember Taylor is having/already had knee surgery. That could stunt his growth or impact his minutes (really hoping it doesn't). Then what happens if McKay or Jamil go down for extended periods of time? Also, he has been in the system two years already and could definitely start putting it together as an upperclassman and straight up win minutes on merit. We've seen it before. Juan coming back is nothing but a positive.
I was really hoping he change his mind, but I did not think it was going to happen. Thanks Juan for coming back.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on May 20, 2013, 11:58:06 AM
But I thought Buzz cut him to make room for some future recruit... or something like that???
Though I don't believe it, this doesn't disprove it. Juan left before Blue declared (IIRC) and we were in on some big time players. He could have been Buzz-cut but then nailed back together once Buzz realized Drew Crawford, Black, or any of the other big-time transfers weren't walking through the door.
All this says to me is Juan is more comfortable with his playing time than he was a month ago. Maybe the ST injury and Blue leaving helped?
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on May 20, 2013, 03:18:41 PM
He could have been Buzz-cut but then nailed back together once Buzz realized Drew Crawford, Black, or any of the other big-time transfers weren't walking through the door.
This sounds like a fantasy from Badgernation.
Drew Crawford came, then Juan would be gone. Sure it helps that Vander is gone, but he will have to improve to get PT. The scholarship was open, he is a good teammate, why not
have him back, you need roll players.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on May 20, 2013, 03:18:41 PM
Though I don't believe it, this doesn't disprove it. Juan left before Blue declared (IIRC) and we were in on some big time players. He could have been Buzz-cut but then nailed back together once Buzz realized Drew Crawford, Black, or any of the other big-time transfers weren't walking through the door.
This had nothing to do with basketball.
Quote from: MUfan12 on May 20, 2013, 03:33:40 PM
This had nothing to do with basketball.
Yep. Prevailing theory is that Juan had been offered some killer suite tickets to a Brewers' homestand. Leaving the team was just a temporary work around.
Quote from: BCHoopster on May 20, 2013, 03:33:19 PM
Drew Crawford came, then Juan would be gone. Sure it helps that Vander is gone, but he will have to improve to get PT. The scholarship was open, he is a good teammate, why not
have him back, you need roll players.
Marquette wasn't interested in Drew Crawford.
nm
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 20, 2013, 03:36:41 PM
Marquette wasn't interested in Drew Crawford.
Never a inquiry? It was mentioned somewhere or I would not bring it up.
It was mentioned. MU wasn't interested.
Quote from: CAGASS24 on May 20, 2013, 12:53:20 PM
I guess if other people use it that way I'd be wrong, he calls Juan a rising sophomore, so at least he is consistent within the article, but if you are going to use the term rising, it seems to me to make more sense saying what they are rising from as opposed to rising to, especially since next season isn't upon us yet; unfortunately!!!!!
Hunt has consistently been using the term "rising" incorrectly. A rising ____ means the class he's going to be next year. So Juan is a rising Junior and Jake is a rising Senior.
Quote from: BCHoopster on May 20, 2013, 03:33:19 PM
Drew Crawford or any one of a myriad of transfer possibilities we ultimately passed on came, then Juan would be gone Jake Thomas would go back to walk-on status as he was brought in or leave on his own volition with MU's blessing to find a scholarship & PT elsewhere.
Dammit Ferguson, you missed out on the last scholie! Juan, welcome back dude. Let's see some improvement behind the arc.
Glad to see a Californian sticking it out in Milwaukee. Stay strong Juan.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on May 20, 2013, 12:06:12 PM
I heard Odartey Blankson is coming back next year.
What section is his seat in?
Quote from: MU82 on May 20, 2013, 01:19:27 PM
Hmmm. Hard for me to envision, especially if Derrick Wilson and Otule also are on the floor at that time, but I guess anything's possible.
Buzz has lots of pieces to fit into the picture, which would seem to be in the nice-problem-to-have realm.
Mark Miller tweeted this afternoon that he would transition to the guard position. This makes perfect sense to me. He is a much better perimeter defender than interior defender.
So IMO you will see this to start the year.
*Derrick...backed up by Duane
*Todd...backed up by JJJ
*Juan...backed up by Deonte
*Jamil...backed up by Steve Taylor
*Otule/Gardner playing like they have previously
McKay can play behind Jamil and the centers, or even come in in the small forward position when they go big.
Dawson and Jake do most of the sitting.
Now of course it is never that simple. I mean, JJJ could obviously be on the floor with Mayo when scoring is needed. But I envision that this is roughly how it will start out.
Gotta figure 1 or more of the newbies start by the start of the conference season.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2013, 08:25:15 PM
Gotta figure 1 or more of the newbies start by the start of the conference season.
Yeah, I would guess that would be the case. Hell, knowing Buzz he may start them all. Who knows.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 20, 2013, 07:59:37 PM
Mark Miller tweeted this afternoon that he would transition to the guard position. This makes perfect sense to me. He is a much better perimeter defender than interior defender.
So IMO you will see this to start the year.
*Derrick...backed up by Duane
*Todd...backed up by JJJ
*Juan...backed up by Deonte
*Jamil...backed up by Steve Taylor
*Otule/Gardner playing like they have previously
McKay can play behind Jamil and the centers, or even come in in the small forward position when they go big.
Dawson and Jake do most of the sitting.
Now of course it is never that simple. I mean, JJJ could obviously be on the floor with Mayo when scoring is needed. But I envision that this is roughly how it will start out.
Interesting projection Terror. I could be 100% wrong but I personally believe that Jamil is going to the #3 and McKay/Taylor are going to man the #4. I'm thrilled that Juan has decided to return and believe that he'll be in rotation with Jamil and earn meaningful minutes. But at this point, Jamil needs to be the alpha dog along with the steady leadership at the post with Chris/DG. And to do that he needs to start ahead of Juan.
I think the good news is this has the potential to take pressure off the Frosh at the #2 and especially #3 position. Much better to bring them along somewhat more slowly. I guess the wild card in this is McKay. Much of my guess is envisioning him as an immediate 25 minute starter with Steve grabbing the other 15.
Quote from: jsglow on May 20, 2013, 08:31:28 PM
Interesting projection Terror. I could be 100% wrong but I personally believe that Jamil is going to the #3 and McKay/Taylor are going to man the #4. I'm thrilled that Juan has decided to return and believe that he'll be in rotation with Jamil and earn meaningful minutes. But at this point, Jamil needs to be the alpha dog along with the steady leadership at the post with Chris/DG. And to do that he needs to start ahead of Juan.
I think the good news is this has the potential to take pressure off the Frosh at the #2 and especially #3 position. Much better to bring them along somewhat more slowly. I guess the wild card in this is McKay. Much of my guess is envisioning him as an immediate 25 minute starter with Steve grabbing the other 15.
I agree.
Derrick/Duane - Derrick starts all year, but yields minutes to Duane as the season progresses.
Todd/JJJ - JJJ takes the starting spot around early February.
Wilson/Juan - Wilson can be an NBA 3, and he'll be showcased greatly here. Juan will pick up minutes behind Jamil and the 4.
McKay/Taylor - This will be interesting.
Otule/Davante - No change here.
Good for Juan. Seeing how our guys have progressed under Buzz he should have a decent chance of being fairly productive his upper class years.
Quote from: Stone Cold on May 20, 2013, 09:05:03 PM
Good for Juan. Seeing how our guys have progressed under Buzz he should have a decent chance of being fairly productive his upper class years.
I see Juan getting a chance at the 2 guard as well. It would be pretty interesting to play zone with Wilson, Devante, Otule, Anderson and Wilson, there
is your Defensive team. That is really long and I think Juan is very capable to do that. I am sure with Vander leaving, it gave Juan a chance to play some
guard.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 20, 2013, 04:55:58 PM
Glad to see a Californian sticking it out in Milwaukee. Stay strong Juan.
Damn right.
If a Cali boy can't tough it out, then who will?
Thrilled to see him back. I really think he can be great at MU. Expect a large improvement next year and great things as a senior.
Quote from: BCHoopster on May 20, 2013, 09:50:03 PM
I see Juan getting a chance at the 2 guard as well. It would be pretty interesting to play zone with Wilson, Devante, Otule, Anderson and Wilson, there
is your Defensive team. That is really long and I think Juan is very capable to do that. I am sure with Vander leaving, it gave Juan a chance to play some
guard.
Wouldn't be smart at all, Juan doesn't have the outside shooting or ball handling necessary for a 2 leave that to Mayo or Johnson perhaps even Wilson
I can imagine the internal debate went like this: "Maybe I should give Marquette another chance. Maybe just Juan More Time." (cue Daft Punk)
And that's how Juan rejoined the team.
Welcome home to the prodigal son.
Quote from: frozena pizza on May 09, 2013, 02:12:55 PM
Since he wanted to be closer to his family I always figured Cal would be the natural choice.
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 09, 2013, 02:16:19 PM
That's kind of a standard quote for anyone who went out of town and ended up not getting the PT. How much time will he really get with his family while he's involved with Division I basketball? It should make it easier for them to come to games, though.
I'm going with "told you so".
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 21, 2013, 07:46:58 AM
I'm going with "told you so".
All I am going to say is you may want to rethink bragging about this because there is more to the story.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on May 20, 2013, 10:59:21 PM
Wouldn't be smart at all, Juan doesn't have the outside shooting or ball handling necessary for a 2 leave that to Mayo or Johnson perhaps even Wilson
Again, people here are too caught up in the traditional positions that don't necessarily apply to Buzz's system. I would envision that Juan will be playing the position that Lockett played last year...and Blue the year before. Kind of a modified wing position that actually will use his talents well.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 21, 2013, 08:05:03 AM
Again, people here are too caught up in the traditional positions that don't necessarily apply to Buzz's system. I would envision that Juan will be playing the position that Lockett played last year...and Blue the year before. Kind of a modified wing position that actually will use his talents well.
Take a stab at the minute breakdown between Juan, McKay and Steve in your scenario. Seems to me that for Juan to play 'Lockett' in this year's movie that Jamil would need to play a lot of #4.
Quote from: jsglow on May 21, 2013, 09:47:09 AM
Take a stab at the minute breakdown between Juan, McKay and Steve in your scenario. Seems to me that for Juan to play 'Lockett' in this year's movie that Jamil would need to play a lot of #4.
What I mean is that Juan will play Lockett's position....I don't mean he will get Lockett's minutes.
I think this is what you have along the front line...
Juan (3)
Jamil (primarily 4, but also 3)
Taylor (4)
McKay (4 and 5 when you want to run)
Gardner and Otule (5)
How these minutes are divided are anyone's guess. You also have to throw Burton in there, but all the newcomers have to show how they can defend. This is one of the reasons I am not yet sure about McKay and his role at least to start the year.
Our incoming Juco players have come in with great acclaim, but they haven't necessarily hit the ground running immediately. It took awhile for Dwight, Jae and JFB for instance to get used to the speed and their role. This is why I don't see McKay starting immediately, but could very well work his way into that role eventually. Perhaps that will come at the expense of Juan.
Guess Buzz simply has another 'house' to build. Part of that decision will be the #3 and #4 mix with the guys mentioned. Nice problem to have that just got nicer with Juan's decision. That's one of the reasons college hoops is so much fun for me. How does one make us the best we can be by BEast and then tourney time?
It seems like quite a few of you guys think that Steve is going to come back from his knee surgery fairly quickly.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2013, 08:25:15 PM
Gotta figure 1 or more of the newbies start by the start of the conference season.
That should happen. Mayo has been too inconsistent and has had other problems. Get Triple J in there. IMO the best line up wpuld be:
C Otule/Gardner/ McKay
PF Gardner/McKay/Taylor
WF Wilson/Burton/Anderson
PG Du. Wilson/De. Wilson/Dawson
SG JJJ/Mayo/Thomas
Re: Stevie, Jr. - I thought I saw where it was some kind of congenital growth or something - if so, likely not actually in the joint itself and a quick rehab.
He still will be missing the ProAm and other game-like activities.
Unlike Juan last summer however, he still will be able to shoot and the like
Is anyone predicting a "final four" next year or are we equal to what we had (another sweet 16 or elite 8)?
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 21, 2013, 11:06:54 AM
It seems like quite a few of you guys think that Steve is going to come back from his knee surgery fairly quickly.
It seems like Buzz over estimates recovery times and that is what I am hoping for.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on May 21, 2013, 11:23:24 AM
Re: Stevie, Jr. - I thought I saw where it was some kind of congenital growth or something - if so, likely not actually in the joint itself and a quick rehab.
Yep, it was definitely a thing that had been growing in his knee for some time. I know nothing about doctoring, but I saw that they were expecting him to take about 4 months to recover. That seems like a serious thing to go through, imo.
Quote from: bilsu on May 21, 2013, 04:03:20 PM
It seems live Buzz over estimates recovery times and that is what I am hoping for.
I hope you're right!
I hope Juan can put on 10 to 15 pounds of muscle this summer, it would really help him.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 20, 2013, 03:36:41 PM
Marquette wasn't interested in Drew Crawford.
I sat next to a Northwestern assistant on an airplane about a month ago. I asked, "I have to ask you, did any other school tamper with Drew Crawford."
He said, "Oh yeah, definitely." Then he paused and said, "Marquette for sure."
Quote from: breadtree on May 21, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
I sat next to a Northwestern assistant on an airplane about a month ago. I asked, "I have to ask you, did any other school tamper with Drew Crawford."
He said, "Oh yeah, definitely." Then he paused and said, "Marquette, sure."
L.A., ok, I'll bite......what does this have to do with Juan coming back?
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 21, 2013, 09:32:35 PM
L.A., ok, I'll bite......what does this have to do with Juan coming back?
meaning that if Crawford had come to Marquette then Juan wouldnt have came back.
Quote from: breadtree on May 21, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
I sat next to a Northwestern assistant on an airplane about a month ago. I asked, "I have to ask you, did any other school tamper with Drew Crawford."
He said, "Oh yeah, definitely." Then he paused and said, "Marquette, sure."
Apart from the atrocious grammar I would be rather surprised that a staffer from Northwestern would have any comment on alleged NCAA rules violations involving another school. And certainly not to a stranger on an airline flight. But other than that your tale is wholly believeable.
Quote from: breadtree on May 21, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
I sat next to a Northwestern assistant on an airplane about a month ago. I asked, "I have to ask you, did any other school tamper with Drew Crawford."
He said, "Oh yeah, definitely." Then he paused and said, "Marquette for sure."
Riiiight.
Quote from: keefe on May 21, 2013, 11:04:03 PM
Apart from the atrocious grammar I would be rather surprised that a staffer from Northwestern would have any comment on alleged NCAA rules violations involving another school. And certainly not to a stranger on an airline flight. But other than that your tale is wholly believeable.
Yeah, I am usually not one to rip on one-time posters, but this is way too much of a cliche to be believable.
Lucas Anderson wouldn't lie.
Quote from: breadtree on May 21, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
I sat next to a Northwestern assistant on an airplane about a month ago. I asked, "I have to ask you, did any other school tamper with Drew Crawford."
He said, "Oh yeah, definitely." Then he paused and said, "Marquette for sure."
It's interesting that when you posted this garbage on Buckyville a month ago it was "someone connected" with Northwestern. Now its an assistant coach. If we wait another month it might be the athletic director or school president.
http://buckyville.yuku.com/reply/860419/Vander-Blue-Turning-Pro#reply-860419
Quote from: Skitch on May 22, 2013, 09:51:37 AM
It's interesting that when you posted this garbage on Buckyville a month ago it was "someone connected" with Northwestern. Now its an assistant coach. If we wait another month it might be the athletic director or school president.
http://buckyville.yuku.com/reply/860419/Vander-Blue-Turning-Pro#reply-860419
Yeah, the guy connected to Northwestern has morphed into an assistant coach and the possibility that Crawford was indirectly contacted (which would be speculation) has morphed into tampering. Usually a story gets exaggerated as it's passed on from person to person. This guy did it with his own story, which indicates he made the whole thing up just to stir the pot.
Great to see Juan returning. I hope this didn't disrupt his improvement. I see him in the Lockett role. Boards, hustle, defence ( although he needs to be smarter), and weak side spacing. 15-18 mins. 8ppg. 5 rpg. Ok, 8 is ambitious but I don't see the newcomers figuring things out so he needs to score at least 6 ppg.
Quote from: Skitch on May 22, 2013, 09:51:37 AM
It's interesting that when you posted this garbage on Buckyville a month ago it was "someone connected" with Northwestern. Now its an assistant coach. If we wait another month it might be the athletic director or school president.
http://buckyville.yuku.com/reply/860419/Vander-Blue-Turning-Pro#reply-860419
The concluding statement from his post on "Buckyville" is most telling,
"Buzz is just despicable."
Lucas Anderson only seeks the truth.
Quote from: breadtree on May 21, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
I sat next to a Northwestern assistant on an airplane about a month ago. I asked, "I have to ask you, did any other school tamper with Drew Crawford."
He said, "Oh yeah, definitely." Then he paused and said, "Marquette for sure."
Well, you basically outed Taveras Hardy as he was the only assistant named and in place on Collins' staff who would have been involved with Crawford....I am sure he appreciates you spreading this rumor.
Taveras Hardy
(http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/0315/chi_tavaras_600.jpg)
Do you have a source about Bo tampering with Ben Brust?
Not that interested in that one huh?
Quote from: breadtree on May 21, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
I sat next to a Northwestern assistant on an airplane about a month ago. I asked, "I have to ask you, did any other school tamper with Drew Crawford."
He said, "Oh yeah, definitely." Then he paused and said, "Marquette for sure."
Quote from: breadtree on May 21, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
I sat next to a Northwestern assistant on an airplane about a month ago. I asked, "I have to ask you, did any other school tamper with Drew Crawford."
He said, "Oh yeah, definitely." Then he paused and said, "Marquette for sure."
Seems legit.
Quote from: breadtree on May 21, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
I sat next to a Northwestern assistant on an airplane about a month ago. I asked, "I have to ask you, did any other school tamper with Drew Crawford."
He said, "Oh yeah, definitely." Then he paused and said, "Marquette for sure."
How can you tamper with a kid that has graduated and is allowed to open his recruitment and take three visits under the rules in which he was in (those of a kid that can play one year without sitting out to attend graduate school).
I'm just curious how that is tampering?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 22, 2013, 04:43:08 PM
I'm just curious how that is tampering?
Because it's Bull Sh1t, Chico.
Quote from: keefe on May 22, 2013, 11:38:11 AM
The concluding statement from his post on "Buckyville" is most telling,
"Buzz is just despicable."
Lucas Anderson only seeks the truth.
This quote (especially the use of the word despicable) clearly reveals breadtree's real identify as
Daffy Duck.
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 22, 2013, 09:37:03 PM
This quote (especially the use of the word despicable) clearly reveals breadtree's real identify as Daffy Duck.
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Daffy_Duck_sounds
Quote from: keefe on May 22, 2013, 07:51:10 PM
Because it's Bull Sh1t, Chico.
Keefe it isn't bull sht. In Madison they call it Bo-sht.
I still think half the crazys on this board are UW fans. Too bad more of them don't get banned. This board is too tolerant. They should get BOned now. A purging of the BO crazys now! Start with this fool who has been outed.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 20, 2013, 01:17:24 PM
I actually think Juan projects more to the position that Lockett played last year...IOW Juan and Taylor can be on the floor at the same time.
Absolutely. Taylor and Juan would be great together with a lineup of Jameel and JuJuan or whoever is at point...
If just one of them can hit a jump shot he has a fabulous team to coach and watch play and grow if they can all play. Buzz has to be elated.
His coaching staff have a lot of versatile and talented switchable s to work and match up with any team on their schedule.
If they can all play and are healthy and there is a chemistry there mentally and emotionally and a toughness...look out.
And that is just on paper! But paper or names and hype doesn't mean much until you see them play and adapt to a higher level of comp.
But he has one of the best lineups to envy as a coach in the country outside of Kentucky...or maybe Kansas.
Quote from: MU82 on May 20, 2013, 01:12:42 PM
Vander's coming back, too.
And D Wade ... he's still got a year of eligibility left.
Wacky offseason. Never seen anything quite like it. It's unusual enough to have one player leave and then turn around and return, let alone two.
I'm looking forward to seeing how good Juan can become. He'll have his work cut out for him due to the skilled players who are ahead of him.*
And for all those calling for Steve Taylor to get big minutes next season, hope you're not also big Juan fans. They are pretty close to mutually exclusive, with Taylor having more potential IMHO.
Hold on here...with all due respect and for the sake of argument here, technically
there is NO ONE AHEAD OF JUAN.. They need to get to the back of the bus...and start from the bottom.
If you recall Juan was a starter much of last year which is why I am shocked that he even considered leaving in the first place!
Never run in fear of what is coming or what others do or say if that is what he did, because it sure seemed that way...It showed a lack of confidence in his game which he should never allow to come into the equation.
But no one is "ahead" of Juan nor should they be. That is pure speculation and assumption from you like there is something etched in stone already or deal made in advance.
Facts are facts...Juan is a very capable and talented young man himself and now he has starting experience on an Elite Eight team.
Juan Anderson was and is a returning STARTER and upperclassman with 2 years in. If anything and that is the mindset and approach that Juan should or probably does have coming back.You make this statement looking at names and what you think Buzz has promised a kid but he is from Texas, you will earn your time with Buzz and you will defend.
Juan defends. Plain and simple. This is not the NBA...where you play based on your salary or name and how many fans you put in the seats.
IMO...Juan has to be a candidate to start. I have no idea why he had decided to leave in the first place.
I love the mature decision he made to return and claim his spot and make some one take it from him not give it away.
That in turn makes him a better player, Buzz a better coach and the guys around them as a better team as well.
Don't get this twisted, Vander's spot is the only spot open for a guy to come claim and that guy should be Todd Mayo. If it ends up being the JuJuan kid okay..so be it.
But Juan needs to come in and put that SF spot on lock, Jamil at PF and Gardner at C [I would actually start Mayo at PG] and JuJuan if he can play at SG.
Quote from: TomW1365 on May 20, 2013, 11:37:40 AM
I found it odd a few weeks ago when Buzz Williams had the team at the Milwaukee Brewers game to throw out the first pitch. Juan Anderson was there with the team. It was then that I thought we could see Juan Anderson back with the team.
He's a great glue guy who will benefit from a healthy off season. Continuity between seasons w/ our team helps usher the habits and attitude to the new players that has built Marquette Bball to national prominence.
I'd like to offer a MUSCOOP virtual high five to Juan Anderson and Buzz!
Remember right here on Hoop Scoop one of you made the comment that every year Buzz sends a kid home...to regroup?
Well maybe that guy was Juan Anderson's turn this year, and he has returned?
Juan never should have left in the first place unless if was a family matter or emergency. He is a returning starter.
I know that every team is different and every recruiting class and expectations is different but so what. Adapt. Adjust.
He has been through too much with the injury and then worked his way up to far to leave that on the table. Great kid too...and big time teammate.
But with his size at 6'6 and length and his ability to defend multiple positions, once he gets comfortable offensively like we saw Van do this year...look out.
If he wants to pursue basketball after his time is done here at MU I can think of no program in the country that is hotter then MU.
If you can play hard and tougher then anyone they will find a spot for you. Hang in there Juan! It's going to be ok...
ok. I'll probably get dogged for this but I have to say it. Juan is a great kid and I'm glad he's back but a "starter" who averages 2.7 points/game and 13 min/game isn't the missing piece to a final four run. Heck, Todd Mayo, Davante, Jamil, and Derrick Wilson averaged more minutes per game than Juan last year and they weren't "starters". Just because you start doesn't mean you're in there to finish the game, when it counts.
I think Juan will be a positive piece to this year's team but this 12/6 guy some of you are making him out to be I think is a bit of reach. Could he be a Trent Lockett type player by his senior year? (7/5 a game) Possibly. We do have a lot of young talent coming in this year and next year could be more of the same. Remember, it sounds like he didn't get very much interest from any high level teams when he did decide to transfer which is a part of the reason he returned. Playing away from home for a top 25 team is much better than playing for an MVC, MWC, or WCC team.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on May 23, 2013, 01:18:55 AM
Remember right here on Hoop Scoop one of you made the comment that every year Buzz sends a kid home...to regroup?
Well maybe that guy was Juan Anderson's turn this year, and he has returned?
Juan's reasons for initially leaving were not basketball related. Nor were they academically related.
Don't read too much into it.
Quote from: muarmy81 on May 23, 2013, 07:28:27 AM
ok. I'll probably get dogged for this but I have to say it. Juan is a great kid and I'm glad he's back but a "starter" who averages 2.7 points/game and 13 min/game isn't the missing piece to a final four run. Heck, Todd Mayo, Davante, Jamil, and Derrick Wilson averaged more minutes per game than Juan last year and they weren't "starters". Just because you start doesn't mean you're in there to finish the game, when it counts.
I think Juan will be a positive piece to this year's team but this 12/6 guy some of you are making him out to be I think is a bit of reach. Could he be a Trent Lockett type player by his senior year? (7/5 a game) Possibly. We do have a lot of young talent coming in this year and next year could be more of the same. Remember, it sounds like he didn't get very much interest from any high level teams when he did decide to transfer which is a part of the reason he returned. Playing away from home for a top 25 team is much better than playing for an MVC, MWC, or WCC team.
I said 12/6. A little optimistic, perhaps, but I won't back away from it. My larger point is that with two more summers of working on his game, as well as finally hitting the weight room, when his senior season comes, and he is starting on a frontline of McKay and STjr, he will do just fine. He has already shown decent skills, a nose for the ball, great hustle and a great attitude. In his 4th year under Buzz? I love the idea of having a pair of versatile 6-7 guys next to a versatile 6'9 guy.
Quote from: tower912 on May 23, 2013, 08:24:53 AM
I said 12/6. A little optimistic, perhaps, but I won't back away from it. My larger point is that with two more summers of working on his game, as well as finally hitting the weight room, when his senior season comes, and he is starting on a frontline of McKay and STjr, he will do just fine. He has already shown decent skills, a nose for the ball, great hustle and a great attitude. In his 4th year under Buzz? I love the idea of having a pair of versatile 6-7 guys next to a versatile 6'9 guy.
Agree, I've thought in his senior season, Juan could turn into the type of player that averages 8/6 but would be capable of dropping 18 on a quality opponent. Really think he's going to be a very talented role player as he continues to develop.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 23, 2013, 07:49:52 AM
Juan's reasons for initially leaving were not basketball related. Nor were they academically related.
Don't read too much into it.
I've heard the same. Sounds like he's a good family kid, looked to get closer to home and then realized that was not as necessary for his family as he thought.
Quote from: tower912 on May 23, 2013, 08:24:53 AM
I said 12/6. A little optimistic, perhaps, but I won't back away from it. My larger point is that with two more summers of working on his game, as well as finally hitting the weight room, when his senior season comes, and he is starting on a frontline of McKay and STjr, he will do just fine. He has already shown decent skills, a nose for the ball, great hustle and a great attitude. In his 4th year under Buzz? I love the idea of having a pair of versatile 6-7 guys next to a versatile 6'9 guy.
I think 12/6 is perfectly reasonable. Depends a bit on usage and tempo, but he is certainly capable of it. A year in the weight rom and putting up 600 shots a day will be great for him.
I think the key for next year is getting reps with his shot and tightening up his handle a bit. I see no reason he couldn't be an impact player for us next year.
Quote from: forgetful on May 23, 2013, 09:39:20 AM
I think 12/6 is perfectly reasonable. Depends a bit on usage and tempo, but he is certainly capable of it. A year in the weight rom and putting up 600 shots a day will be great for him.
I think the key for next year is getting reps with his shot and tightening up his handle a bit. I see no reason he couldn't be an impact player for us next year.
I agree.
He's not particularly weak in any area, and he still has good upside from a physical standpoint.
He just needs to lift weights and play a LOT of basketball (reps).
Anyone want to bet a case of beer on Juan averaging 12/6 in either his junior or senior seasons? ;)
Quote from: muarmy81 on May 23, 2013, 10:07:10 AM
Anyone want to bet a case of beer on Juan averaging 12/6 in either his junior or senior seasons? ;)
Such a hater.
Ha! Thanks B. You know me...doom & gloom!
Quote from: muarmy81 on May 23, 2013, 10:07:10 AM
Anyone want to bet a case of beer on Juan averaging 12/6 in either his junior or senior seasons? ;)
I'd take that bet but the last time I did the moderators of this site sent me a message telling betting is illegal and not allowed on this site. Juan had legitimate family issues that have changed and allowed him to remain at MU. I believe we will see significant improvement in his numbers the next two years and I can see him averaging 12 points and 6 rebounds either his junior or senior season.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on May 22, 2013, 12:11:56 PM
Well, you basically outed Taveras Hardy as he was the only assistant named and in place on Collins' staff who would have been involved with Crawford....I am sure he appreciates you spreading this rumor.
And Taveras is already off to Georgetown after just accepting the NU assistant's job. JT III sees the conference membership is moving west and is looking to take advantage of that. I know GT in on Looney and Paul White.
http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-76188261/