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Title: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on April 19, 2013, 06:39:49 PM
Paint Touches tweeted put Marquette and Rutgers transfer Jerome Seagears have seta visit.  Would be a really nice get.  Have read NCAA may grant all Rutgers transfers waivers for immediate eligibility due to mike rice fiasco. 
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on April 19, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
If we can get him immediately then I'm all for it. Not sure he's worth waiting a year for though.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: 🏀 on April 19, 2013, 07:17:33 PM
Would be a good get.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: mufansince72 on April 19, 2013, 07:19:20 PM
Rather have the other Rutgers guy
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: GoldenZebra on April 19, 2013, 07:22:02 PM
Carter or Seagears immediately is a good grab. Even if they dont replace Vanders scoring, they provide another facet of depth to the guard position. I dont think JJJ is gonna be an impact player right out of the gates, but I see him filling a similar role to Todd his freshman year, but scoring a bit more.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on April 19, 2013, 07:24:34 PM
He's a solid player and former borderline top 100 recruit but do we really need another point guard? We already have 3 (Du. Wilson, De. Wilson, Dawson) and I think Duane will be able to make up for the large majority of Junior's production by himself. Would rather have a 2 or a 3.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: GGGG on April 19, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
You just listed two freshmen and a junior who has significant deficiencies.  This is a potential top 10 team...an experience PG would be great.

And Duane could definitely play an off guard position.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on April 19, 2013, 08:04:11 PM
Quote from: Terror Skink on April 19, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
You just listed two freshmen and a junior who has significant deficiencies.  This is a potential top 10 team...an experience PG would be great.

And Duane could definitely play an off guard position.

Point taken, I'm just really high on Wilson. There's no telling how good he'll be though so an experienced PG would definitely help, I agree.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: muguru on April 19, 2013, 08:05:07 PM
Quote from: mufansince72 on April 19, 2013, 07:19:20 PM
Rather have the other Rutgers guy

Yep....would much rather have Eli Carter.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: jeffreyweee on April 19, 2013, 08:34:41 PM
Shot 38% from 3. Would be a solid contributor but no game changer. I'd take it.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: avid1010 on April 19, 2013, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on April 19, 2013, 07:24:34 PM
He's a solid player and former borderline top 100 recruit but do we really need another point guard?

YES!
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: LastWarrior on April 19, 2013, 09:09:33 PM
Ranked #89 on Scout and #101 coming out of high school  From his scout profile...

STRENGTHS
3-Point Range
Athleticism
Ballhandling
   
AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT
Decision Making
Defensive Presence

A big time athlete who can play either guard spot, Seagears has a lot of potential. He exploded on to the scene late in his high school career, and began showing his ability to score from inside and out. Seagears does need to transition from a scoring combo guard into a true point guard and that means making better decisions with the basketball.

Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: GoldenZebra on April 19, 2013, 09:43:31 PM
Carter would be better from a pure scorer...but he isnt even looking at MU i thought
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: Markusquette on April 19, 2013, 09:44:57 PM
Here's a highlight reel from HS.  

http://blip.tv/ballislife/6-1-pg-jerome-seagears-is-a-big-time-sleeper-for-the-rutgers-2011-recruiting-class-senior-mix-5287551

Looks like he has a lot more "flash" to his game than someone like junior.  If he can shoot that would be very helpful.  Agree I'm not totally sure if we need another PG like this but we'll see.  Sorta reminds me of AI.

Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 19, 2013, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on April 19, 2013, 09:44:57 PM
Here's a highlight reel from HS.  

http://blip.tv/ballislife/6-1-pg-jerome-seagears-is-a-big-time-sleeper-for-the-rutgers-2011-recruiting-class-senior-mix-5287551

Looks like he has a lot more "flash" to his game than someone like junior.  If he can shoot that would be very helpful.  Agree I'm not totally sure if we need another PG like this but we'll see.  Sorta reminds me of AI.


I assume by that you mean a point guard because of height, not game.

Just looked at the mixtape.  A mixtape of a HS PG without a single play where he is creating for someone else.  If Buzz wants him, I'm all for it.  But, let's not miscategorize him as a PG based on his height.  I'd think that DJO isn't a bad comparison.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: Markusquette on April 19, 2013, 10:56:05 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 19, 2013, 10:25:52 PM
I assume by that you mean a point guard because of height, not game.

Just looked at the mixtape.  A mixtape of a HS PG without a single play where he is creating for someone else.  If Buzz wants him, I'm all for it.  But, let's not miscategorize him as a PG based on his height.  I'd think that DJO isn't a bad comparison.

Yes, similar height and flash to his game.  Iverson was a shooting guard.  The thing is, AI is/was one of the best to ever play the game. He had the talent to make any great play on the court.  Seagears appears to be a short shooting guard, hence my comparison.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: Waryours on April 20, 2013, 12:14:38 AM
Quote from: LastWarrior on April 19, 2013, 09:09:33 PM
Ranked #89 on Scout and #101 coming out of high school  From his scout profile...

So he'd be our 5th highest rated newcomer?  I'd rather give Duane the minutes.  He will make everyone forget the name Dominic James.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: buckchuckler on April 20, 2013, 01:30:25 AM
Quote from: Waryours on April 20, 2013, 12:14:38 AM
So he'd be our 5th highest rated newcomer?  I'd rather give Duane the minutes.  He will make everyone forget the name Dominic James.

Be serious.  People can't here forget DJ Newbill. 
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: brewcity77 on April 20, 2013, 07:22:59 AM
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on April 19, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
If we can get him immediately then I'm all for it. Not sure he's worth waiting a year for though.

This exactly. We could use another point. I'd prefer a senior grad transfer, but if he can play next year I think Seagears would be a very good add.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: willie warrior on April 20, 2013, 07:31:49 AM
Another PG? We already have 3, and some on this board have said that J. Wilson can play the point, while others have suggested that Mayo can play Point. Oh I get it, we can play a PG at every position, becuase OX is a PG in a big man's body!
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: bilsu on April 20, 2013, 08:09:55 AM
Most freshmen are inconsistent and the worst position for inconsistency is point guard. I love Derrick for the toughness he brings to the court, but he is not a distributor. I do not have great faith in Mayo being available every game. Thomas is a good teammate and I am glad to have him back on the team. We need an experienced point guard more than anything else on this team.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: brewcity77 on April 20, 2013, 08:13:34 AM
Quote from: muguru on April 19, 2013, 08:05:07 PM
Yep....would much rather have Eli Carter.

I'd prefer Myles Mack to either of them. Carter is strictly a volume shooter and Seagears isn't really the true point guard we need. But I would take Seagears ahead of Carter as I don't think Carter would look as good in an offense where he couldn't take 12 shots per game.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: MUDPT on April 20, 2013, 08:33:33 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 20, 2013, 08:13:34 AM
I'd prefer Myles Mack to either of them. Carter is strictly a volume shooter and Seagears isn't really the true point guard we need. But I would take Seagears ahead of Carter as I don't think Carter would look as good in an offense where he couldn't take 12 shots per game.
Is Mack transferring?  He would be the ideal get, would basically reproduce and improve Vander's numbers from this past year.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: nyg on April 20, 2013, 08:45:17 AM
Quote from: MUDPT on April 20, 2013, 08:33:33 AM
Is Mack transferring?  He would be the ideal get, would basically reproduce and improve Vander's numbers from this past year.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9191269/rutgers-scarlet-knights-top-scorer-eli-carter-decides-transfer

No, see attached.  These guys are looking at a bunch of schools.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: brewcity77 on April 20, 2013, 09:01:13 AM
Quote from: MUDPT on April 20, 2013, 08:33:33 AM
Is Mack transferring?  He would be the ideal get, would basically reproduce and improve Vander's numbers from this past year.

Myles Mack hasn't announced yet but is said to still be making his decision. I think it's worth giving it a couple days in case he decides to explore his options.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: AZWarrior on April 20, 2013, 12:51:01 PM
Quote from: buckchuckler on April 20, 2013, 01:30:25 AM
Be serious.  People can't here forget DJ Newbill. 

Great post.

Really great post.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 20, 2013, 01:30:49 PM
I didn't like that video from that earlier post (because of all the slow-mo camera stuff) so I YT'd Seagears and came up with this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ThyfapTfJE

After watching the video, I decided I wanted Rodney Purvis instead. His flair for the dramatic would so fit into MU's current style of play. ;)
But Seagears did drop 50 in that game.

Not sure about him. Handles the ball (good) but dribbles a lot in place (bad). Can shoot it (good) but is he quick and strong enough to handle the physical play MU implements?

And as with most player videos, not much passing was seen (except one).
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: Pakuni on April 22, 2013, 10:44:30 AM
Marquette reportedly has an in-home visit with Seagers today, according to CBS' Jeff Borzello.

Jeff Borzello ‏@jeffborzello
Per his HS coach @fmabballcoach, Rutgers transfer Jerome Seagears has home visits today with Baylor and Marquette, then WVU on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: esotericmindguy on April 22, 2013, 10:50:39 AM
Does he have to sit out a year? If so, why do they want him? They'll have Wilson, Wilson and Dawson. The only thing I can assume is Duane projects as more a 2 on the collegiate level.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: ResidentBrown on April 22, 2013, 11:11:22 AM
I believe all Rutgers transfers are allowed to play immediately due to the coaching change.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: brewcity77 on April 22, 2013, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 22, 2013, 10:50:39 AM
Does he have to sit out a year? If so, why do they want him? They'll have Wilson, Wilson and Dawson. The only thing I can assume is Duane projects as more a 2 on the collegiate level.

There's talk that the Rutgers transfers won't have to sit out due to the Mike Rice situation. Guess that's the reward for constantly having your manhood questioned while basketballs fly at your head. I think the hope if we add him is he can come in and immediately compete with Derrick for the starting PG role while also providing some outside shooting. This team definitely needs experience at the guard spots and while I'd rather see Myles Mack say he was transferring and go for him, I do prefer Seagears to Eli Carter.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 22, 2013, 11:46:46 AM
No, the Rutgers transfers won't have to sit out a year due to their school's demotion to the Big Ten.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 22, 2013, 02:17:39 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 22, 2013, 10:50:39 AM
Does he have to sit out a year? If so, why do they want him? They'll have Wilson, Wilson and Dawson. The only thing I can assume is Duane projects as more a 2 on the collegiate level.

A better assumption is that Seagears projects to a SG, think DJO.
Title: Re: Seagears to Marquette?
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 22, 2013, 02:51:53 PM
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on April 22, 2013, 11:46:46 AM
No, the Rutgers transfers won't have to sit out a year due to their school's demotion to the Big Ten.

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