http://www.slubillikens.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&ATCLID=207181460
I guess they officially introduced him at a press conference at 3pm today, but I'm still looking for the details of it.
Let SLU duke it out in the minor leagues. If they keep winning the A-10 and making respectable NCAA appearances, then you promote them to the Big East in a few years. Adding SLU or anyone else from the A-10 right now is premature.
Agreed--Crews showed this year that he could get Rick's guys to play well, but have to wait and see how he does bringing in his own guys.
Yep, one two star recruit for 2013 and that's all because they waited this long to remove the interim tag. I want them to get an invite, but let's see them continue their ascent first.
Quote from: chapman on April 12, 2013, 05:39:02 PM
Yep, one two star recruit for 2013 and that's all because they waited this long to remove the interim tag. I want them to get an invite, but let's see them continue their ascent first.
Biondi has stated that he wants "SLU to be just like DePaul".
Quote from: Victor McCormick on April 12, 2013, 05:00:33 PM
Let SLU duke it out in the minor leagues. If they keep winning the A-10 and making respectable NCAA appearances, then you promote them to the Big East in a few years. Adding SLU or anyone else from the A-10 right now is premature.
Couldn't agree more. I'd prefer to see the Big East sit at 10 for a few years and see who rises to the top on a regular basis. The notion that schools like SLU or VCU can compete long term is shaky at best. How does SLU do sans Majerus? How about VCU sans Shaka? I'd rather find out before inviting them...
I'm sure SLU is real hyped about his career 378–356 record.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 12, 2013, 05:59:29 PM
Biondi has stated that he wants "SLU to be just like DePaul".
nice
I do think 12 teams makes it easier to get 5+ teams in the tourney every year.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 12, 2013, 05:59:29 PM
Biondi has stated that he wants "SLU to be just like DePaul".
Well, hiring Crews is a big step in the right direction if the mediocrity of DePaul is the objective.
I'm not sold on Crews. He did great coaching Rick's players. Can he recruit to SLU? It took Rick 5 years to get that place where they were and it'd be a lot easier to slide right back than it would be to maintain a top-25 program.
I understand all the reasons people want SLU, but I would rather have Dayton if it's one of the two.
I would think SLU would be a lock for team #11 based on facilities and location but Crews won w/Majerus' players and supposedly doesn't recruit too well. Also, Father Biondi is apparently pretty disliked in the SLU community and doesn't really care about sports (was in China during NCAA tournament and took so long to resign Crews).
Quote from: Jet915 on April 13, 2013, 06:44:43 AM
I would think SLU would be a lock for team #11 based on facilities and location but Crews won w/Majerus' players and supposedly doesn't recruit too well. Also, Father Biondi is apparently pretty disliked in the SLU community and doesn't really care about sports (was in China during NCAA tournament and took so long to resign Crews).
I could be wrong, but I thought that, after Majerus, SLU wanted to sign Crews, but he was hesitant about taking the job.
Quote from: ElDonBDon on April 13, 2013, 08:39:54 AM
I could be wrong, but I thought that, after Majerus, SLU wanted to sign Crews, but he was hesitant about taking the job.
I don't think SLU wanted Crews until he started having success with SLU at the second half of the season. Once he did what he did, it was hard not to resign a "Coach of the Year."
Quote from: Jet915 on April 13, 2013, 06:44:43 AM
I would think SLU would be a lock for team #11 based on facilities and location but Crews won w/Majerus' players and supposedly doesn't recruit too well. Also, Father Biondi is apparently pretty disliked in the SLU community and doesn't really care about sports (was in China during NCAA tournament and took so long to resign Crews).
So, where did you get the Big East poster for your signature line? George Mikan for DePaul? Really? Wouldn't Mark Aguirre have been better? And who the hell is the Marquette guy?
(http://www.naturesamerica.com/BigEast31.jpg)
Quote from: Victor McCormick on April 12, 2013, 05:00:33 PM
Let SLU duke it out in the minor leagues. If they keep winning the A-10 and making respectable NCAA appearances, then you promote them to the Big East in a few years. Adding SLU or anyone else from the A-10 right now is premature.
Supposedly SLU is on the MVC's radar to replace Creighton. If they go MVC, I'd think that the MVC would try to lock them up for a while.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 13, 2013, 10:50:28 AM
Supposedly SLU is on the MVC's radar to replace Creighton. If they go MVC, I'd think that the MVC would try to lock them up for a while.
I know the A-10 lost Xavier and Butler and has other schools still on the Big East target range, but the MVC seems like a step down for SLU. I guess Arch Madness at home would be cool and all, but it's at best a lateral move and makes little sense when I'd think SLU's hope is to improve their station.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 13, 2013, 10:54:34 AM
I know the A-10 lost Xavier and Butler and has other schools still on the Big East target range, but the MVC seems like a step down for SLU. I guess Arch Madness at home would be cool and all, but it's at best a lateral move and makes little sense when I'd think SLU's hope is to improve their station.
Geographically, it's a much better fit. They'll probably stay in the A10 for now, but I don't think that we can assume that we can take them whenever we want.
Quote from: Jet915 on April 13, 2013, 06:44:43 AM
I would think SLU would be a lock for team #11 based on facilities and location but Crews won w/Majerus' players and supposedly doesn't recruit too well. Also, Father Biondi is apparently pretty disliked in the SLU community and doesn't really care about sports (was in China during NCAA tournament and took so long to resign Crews).
How you say...Mike Deane?
How you say...Albert DiUlio?
Crews can coach; but, as others note here, can he recruit...? His experiences at Evansville and Army as HC are at low level Div I. Time will tell and he is not getting any younger.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 13, 2013, 10:54:34 AM
I know the A-10 lost Xavier and Butler and has other schools still on the Big East target range, but the MVC seems like a step down for SLU. I guess Arch Madness at home would be cool and all, but it's at best a lateral move and makes little sense when I'd think SLU's hope is to improve their station.
This. Moving to the Valley only reinforces that SLU is a regional player at best, and not a program making regular appearances on a national stage in March. I'm sure the Valley is looking at SLU, but the Valley needs SLU much much more than SLU needs the Valley.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Valley move on the Horizon League for a team. Perhaps Valparaiso?
Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on April 13, 2013, 01:35:01 PM
This. Moving to the Valley only reinforces that SLU is a regional player at best, and not a program making regular appearances on a national stage in March. I'm sure the Valley is looking at SLU, but the Valley needs SLU much much more than SLU needs the Valley.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Valley move on the Horizon League for a team. Perhaps Valparaiso?
Because nothing screams "regional player at best" like Creighton and Wichita State.
SLU would be fine if they decided to stay in the A10. But on a comparision basis, the MVC isn't any weaker than the A10 will be going forward.
Then they should also look at the map, where just about every MVC team is closer than the nearest A10 team. And they already have rivalries with SIU and Missouri State
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/MissouriValleyLocations.png)
Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on April 13, 2013, 01:35:01 PMI wouldn't be surprised to see the Valley move on the Horizon League for a team. Perhaps Valparaiso?
Latest I've heard is that they are looking at UIC and Loyola-Chicago. Not sure if they want one or both. Either would be a far cry from Valpo, and even further from St. Louis.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 13, 2013, 10:46:45 AM
So, where did you get the Big East poster for your signature line? George Mikan for DePaul? Really? Wouldn't Mark Aguirre have been better? And who the hell is the Marquette guy?
(http://www.naturesamerica.com/BigEast31.jpg)
One man's opinion dude, I did this one night when I was bored....is Dwayne Wade not liked in the Marquette community? For the MVC, UIC seems like the top choice which I think is dumb. No one cares about them in Chicago. MVC is also looking at UMKC, Valpo and Loyola. Horrible choices, I think the MVC is looking just to get into big markets. Better choices would have been Belmont, Oral Roberts and Denver (although Denver supposedly turned them down). As for the Big East poster, here are the wallpaper sizes if anyone wants to use them.
(http://www.naturesamerica.com/BigEast28.jpg)
(http://www.naturesamerica.com/BigEast30.jpg)
SLU had and has no interest in re-joining the MVC. They chose the A-10 when not getting into the Big East. SLU has every intention of playing in the new league. They will play in the A-10 until that time.
Btw, being reported that Loyola Chicago will be going to the MVC.
Quote from: Jet915 on April 13, 2013, 04:59:45 PM
One man's opinion dude, I did this one night when I was bored....is Dwayne Wade not liked in the Marquette community? For the MVC, UIC seems like the top choice which I think is dumb. No one cares about them in Chicago. MVC is also looking at UMKC, Valpo and Loyola. Horrible choices, I think the MVC is looking just to get into big markets. Better choices would have been Belmont, Oral Roberts and Denver (although Denver supposedly turned them down). As for the Big East poster, here are the wallpaper sizes if anyone wants to use them.
Not the best shot of Dwayne who is very fondly thought of in the Marquette community, and when they can the Indiana community, as well. Didn't recognize him until you posted the wallpaper size.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 13, 2013, 10:46:45 AM
So, where did you get the Big East poster for your signature line? George Mikan for DePaul? Really? Wouldn't Mark Aguirre have been better? And who the hell is the Marquette guy?
(http://www.naturesamerica.com/BigEast31.jpg)
Mikan is the more significant historical figure. By a lot. Aguirre isn't even that contemporary. He was at DePaul more than 30 years ago...a lot like some of us here!
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-04-13/sports/chi-loyola-missouri-valley-conference-20130413_1_basketball-team-horizon-league-ramblers
Good call, Jet. The Trib reporting that Loyola accepted the invite from the MVC. Who moves to the Horizon now?
Quote from: keefe on April 13, 2013, 11:53:48 PM
Mikan is the more significant historical figure. By a lot. Aguirre isn't even that contemporary. He was at DePaul more than 30 years ago...a lot like some of us here!
Well, maybe Quentin Richardson then. Just trying to encourage pictures that there is some chance others, especially high schoolers, would recognize. There are a lot of bottles of finely aged wine on this message board, but I still bet that those who can recognize a picture of Mikan are definitely a very select group.
Nothing says no longer relevant like making Mikan the face of your college program.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 14, 2013, 11:34:28 AM
Well, maybe Quentin Richardson then. Just trying to encourage pictures that there is some chance others, especially high schoolers, would recognize. There are a lot of bottles of finely aged wine on this message board, but I still bet that those who can recognize a picture of Mikan are definitely a very select group.
Nothing says no longer relevant like making Mikan the face of your college program.
Then....... make your own signature pic? I instantly knew that was Wade. I think that pic is a good mix of conference heritage and new blood. Pretty badass is you ask me. And this guy has been probably the most quality contributor from the relatively small pool of non-MU fans that post here.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 14, 2013, 02:40:50 PM
Then....... make your own signature pic? I instantly knew that was Wade. I think that pic is a good mix of conference heritage and new blood. Pretty badass is you ask me. And this guy has been probably the most quality contributor from the relatively small pool of non-MU fans that post here.
I think that Jet915 is far more resilient and less fragile than you give him credit for. Handling someone with kid gloves is one way of telling someone that they're not really a part of the community.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 14, 2013, 02:53:24 PM
I think that Jet915 is far more resilient and less fragile than you give him credit for. Handling someone with kid gloves is one way of telling someone that they're not really a part of the community.
Yeah, but it's your opinion, not a fact. You really 1.) Think that's an unflattering pic of Wade and 2.) Take umbrage with the fact that a Mikan pic is used for DePaul? Really? This is something you just HAD to chime in on? For thethe sake of making him/her feel "part of the community"? Talk about picking nits man.
Haha, it's all good guys. I was so happy about Creighton joining the Big East, one night I just googled "best player for team ____" and that's how I chose the player to represent each team (assuming they had a decent pic on google).
Loyola Chicago to MVC is a positive for Porter Moser, who helped Majerus recruit many of the kids on SLU.
Quote from: Jet915 on April 14, 2013, 03:12:16 PM
Haha, it's all good guys. I was so happy about Creighton joining the Big East, one night I just googled "best player for team ____" and that's how I chose the player to represent each team (assuming they had a decent pic on google).
Makes perfect sense. Lotta great players from several decades in there. Should be a fun league.
Quote from: Jet915 on April 14, 2013, 03:12:16 PM
Haha, it's all good guys. I was so happy about Creighton joining the Big East, one night I just googled "best player for team ____" and that's how I chose the player to represent each team (assuming they had a decent pic on google).
Glad to see that google had an answer for that question for Creighton. ;D
Be sure to come back the week before our first game next year for the traditional "Famous Creighton Alumni" and "Creighton is evil and must be destroyed" threads.
Yeah, I'll be there!
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 13, 2013, 11:33:49 PM
Not the best shot of Dwayne who is very fondly thought of in the Marquette community, and when they can the Indiana community, as well. Didn't recognize him until you posted the wallpaper size.
Are you serious? That looks exactly like Dwyane. Not to mention you can see the number 3 on his shorts and jersey.
I think its a pretty cool banner Jet. Nice work
I know all those players other than Providence and Seton Hall, who are those guys?
Quote from: cbowe3 on April 15, 2013, 10:52:12 AM
I know all those players other than Providence and Seton Hall, who are those guys?
It's Terry Dehere from the Hall.
Quote from: cbowe3 on April 15, 2013, 10:52:12 AM
I know all those players other than Providence and Seton Hall, who are those guys?
Any Lenny Wilkins from Providence, I believe.
Yep, that is correct.
Quote from: Archies Bat on April 15, 2013, 11:06:43 AM
Any Lenny Wilkins from Providence, I believe.
IMO, should have gone with Marvin "Bad News" Barnes. Arguably the best player in Providence history. And a life since that makes Robert Swift seem like a chiorboy.
(http://www.golocalprov.com/images/remote/http_images.golocalprov.com/sports/Marvin+Barnes+2.jpg)
Quote from: The Equalizer on April 15, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
IMO, should have gone with Marvin "Bad News" Barnes. Arguably the best player in Providence history. And a life since that makes Robert Swift seem like a chiorboy.
(http://www.golocalprov.com/images/remote/http_images.golocalprov.com/sports/Marvin+Barnes+2.jpg)
Marvin Barnes and Ernie D! Marvin did his trashing out on the streets while Swift took his pleasures at home
http://www.celticslife.com/2011/07/what-hell-happened-tomarvin-barnes.html
http://entertainmeinternet.com/external/former-nba-player-robert-swift-refuses-to-leave-his-foreclosed-home