Who in their right mind approved this? Absolute sacrilege!
http://www.fansedge.com/Marquette-Golden-Eagles-Retro-Brand-Vintage-1977-College-Basketball-National-Champions-T-Shirt-_1902386989_PD.html
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This is just wrong on so many levels.....
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NO! NO! NO!
This should be burned
Nobody should buy that garbage.
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I have this undying need to buy that, wear it to Marquette games, and see if anyone tries to kick my ass. :o
What in the frig...
Somewhere Willie Wampum is crying...
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Brutal.
Even if you're a politically correct person who has moved on from Warriors (which so many here can say, right?), it simply is historically inaccurate.
It's like saying the Washington Wizards won the 1977-78 NBA title or the New York Highlanders have won 27 World Series.
I blame Larry Williams.
We should give it terrible reviews, lessening the chance that anyone will buy it.
They really couldn't leave the bird off the shirt? Leave the bird off and use an old school monogram and it would be a cool shirt. Guess they don't have anyone informed designing these.
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Hahaha...wow.
Tacky. Very tacky. >:(
I would buy one sans the bird. Except for the upper right corner, it looks awesome.
Quote from: keefe on April 10, 2013, 08:51:43 PM
Somewhere Willie Wampum is crying...
(http://www.thetownneckcompany.com/product_images/uploaded_images/cody.jpg)
In Italy, where he was born.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 11, 2013, 01:34:10 AM
In Italy, where he was born.
Iron Eyes Cody was actually born in Louisiana. Both his parents were immigrants from Sicily. He went through life telling everyone he was Sioux, even though he was 100% Sicilian.
If Manti T'eo can still maintain he thought he had a girl friend I guess I don't have a problem with Iron Eyes maintaining he was a Lakota Sioux.
$35 bucks too. What a joke on many levels.
I know this will seem blasphemous to some of you, but while I fully honor, celebrate and respect our '77 championship, I do think that there is such a thing as dwelling on it too much.
Our championship was 36 years ago. In a lot of ways, constantly referring to it in promotions (which is all a T-shirt is, really) can be counterproductive. It's hard to look backward and forward at the same time.
I might be wrong, but I don't think a lot of other teams with single championships won decades ago are still putting it on merchandise. If Loyola printed hoodies that said "National Champs 1963", it would be considered sarcastic. We aren't quite there yet, but we are getting close.
I think doing a reproduction a vintage championship tee that was actually sold in 1977 would be really cool, and I would buy one. But mentioning our '77 championship on new stuff is right up there with Bears merchandise that mentions the 1986 Superbowl. That's nice, but what have you done for me lately?
I, for one, am saving space in my closet for the T-shirt that says "Marquette National Champs 201_".
Quote from: warriorchick on April 11, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
I know this will seem blasphemous to some of you, but while I fully honor, celebrate and respect our '77 championship, I do think that there is such a thing as dwelling on it too much.
Our championship was 36 years ago. In a lot of ways, constantly referring to it in promotions (which is all a T-shirt is, really) can be counterproductive. It's hard to look backward and forward at the same time.
I might be wrong, but I don't think a lot of other teams with single championships won decades ago are still putting it on merchandise. If Loyola printed hoodies that said "National Champs 1963", it would be considered sarcastic. We aren't quite there yet, but we are getting close.
I think doing a reproduction a vintage championship tee that was actually sold in 1977 would be really cool, and I would buy one. But mentioning our '77 championship on new stuff is right up there with Bears merchandise that mentions the 1986 Superbowl. That's nice, but what have you done for me lately?
I, for one, am saving space in my closet for the T-shirt that says "Marquette National Champs 201_".
For those who were fans at that time of the national championship there probably isn't "such a thing as dwelling on it too much." For people who have become fans since then, I'm sure that your statemet holds true.
Preach it, chick. You're absolutely right. The Brewers are guilty of this with the 82 team, and they didn't even win it.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 11, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
I know this will seem blasphemous to some of you, but while I fully honor, celebrate and respect our '77 championship, I do think that there is such a thing as dwelling on it too much.
Our championship was 36 years ago. In a lot of ways, constantly referring to it in promotions (which is all a T-shirt is, really) can be counterproductive. It's hard to look backward and forward at the same time.
I might be wrong, but I don't think a lot of other teams with single championships won decades ago are still putting it on merchandise. If Loyola printed hoodies that said "National Champs 1963", it would be considered sarcastic. We aren't quite there yet, but we are getting close.
I think doing a reproduction a vintage championship tee that was actually sold in 1977 would be really cool, and I would buy one. But mentioning our '77 championship on new stuff is right up there with Bears merchandise that mentions the 1986 Superbowl. That's nice, but what have you done for me lately?
I, for one, am saving space in my closet for the T-shirt that says "Marquette National Champs 201_".
You are dead on. The Packers had this same problem in the 70's and 80's until Holmgrem and Wolf were hired.
Quote from: hairyworthen on April 11, 2013, 09:04:59 AM
You are dead on. The Packers had this same problem in the 70's and 80's until Holmgrem and Wolf were hired.
I was actually going to use that as an example.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 11, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
I know this will seem blasphemous to some of you, but while I fully honor, celebrate and respect our '77 championship, I do think that there is such a thing as dwelling on it too much.
Our championship was 36 years ago. In a lot of ways, constantly referring to it in promotions (which is all a T-shirt is, really) can be counterproductive. It's hard to look backward and forward at the same time.
Agree. I know that Al was one of the all time greats, but how many teams have their coach from 30 years ago emblazoned in two different places on their jersey in 2013 (The 'AL' logo on the front and the cut out in the back has a sublimated image of Al).
Quote from: warriorchick on April 11, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
I know this will seem blasphemous to some of you, but while I fully honor, celebrate and respect our '77 championship, I do think that there is such a thing as dwelling on it too much.
Our championship was 36 years ago. In a lot of ways, constantly referring to it in promotions (which is all a T-shirt is, really) can be counterproductive. It's hard to look backward and forward at the same time.
I might be wrong, but I don't think a lot of other teams with single championships won decades ago are still putting it on merchandise. If Loyola printed hoodies that said "National Champs 1963", it would be considered sarcastic. We aren't quite there yet, but we are getting close.
I think doing a reproduction a vintage championship tee that was actually sold in 1977 would be really cool, and I would buy one. But mentioning our '77 championship on new stuff is right up there with Bears merchandise that mentions the 1986 Superbowl. That's nice, but what have you done for me lately?
I, for one, am saving space in my closet for the T-shirt that says "Marquette National Champs 201_".
I don't think anyone here is upset about celebrating our championship from '77. The blasphemus part is the printing of the golden eagle logo on the '77 championship shirt. This isn't a problem if the Bears do it because they haven't changed their name. When the Cubs print 1901 gear, they don't use their current logo, they use the logo with th little cub holding th bat... the logo from back then. When the White Sox celebrate their 1983 central division championship, they use their 1983 logo and colors.
This t-shirt just doesn't make any sense.
How about the '69 Cubs? Not only did they not win it, they choked it away in spectacular fashion. Three members of that team have statues outside the stadium and four (Banks, Williams, Jenkins, Santo) have their numbers retired. It's absurd.
My point is in posting this was that our current logo was included, which is unbelievable to me. Who would buy that?
$35? Has the school hired touring band merch guys to run the show now?
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 11, 2013, 09:17:08 AM
How about the '69 Cubs? Not only did they not win it, they choked it away in spectacular fashion. Three members of that team have statues outside the stadium and four (Banks, Williams, Jenkins, Santo) have their numbers retired. It's absurd.
My point is in posting this was that our current logo was included, which is unbelievable to me. Who would buy that?
Agree 100%. I have no problem with the numbers being retired but, other than having one for Banks, the statues are a little much. Honestly, it says a lot about an organization when it celebrates the "achievement" of a team that got really close to achieving something.
Anyway, as for the MU shirt, I have a feeling that current students or recent grads would buy it. I mean, there are current students whose parents were in grade school in 1977. They don't know much about that team or the old nickname/logo...and they probably don't care either.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 11, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
I know this will seem blasphemous to some of you, but while I fully honor, celebrate and respect our '77 championship, I do think that there is such a thing as dwelling on it too much.
Our championship was 36 years ago. In a lot of ways, constantly referring to it in promotions (which is all a T-shirt is, really) can be counterproductive. It's hard to look backward and forward at the same time.
I might be wrong, but I don't think a lot of other teams with single championships won decades ago are still putting it on merchandise. If Loyola printed hoodies that said "National Champs 1963", it would be considered sarcastic. We aren't quite there yet, but we are getting close.
I think doing a reproduction a vintage championship tee that was actually sold in 1977 would be really cool, and I would buy one. But mentioning our '77 championship on new stuff is right up there with Bears merchandise that mentions the 1986 Superbowl. That's nice, but what have you done for me lately?
I, for one, am saving space in my closet for the T-shirt that says "Marquette National Champs 201_".
Is it a "geezers living in the past" thing?
Or a "nostalgia is cool" thing?
When I go to concerts, I usually wear either my Minnesota North Stars jersey (game worn by Link Gaetz -- "The Missing Link") or my Miami Dolphins No. 39 Csonka jersey. Every time I do, my wife gives me crap but invariably several people make a point to tell me how cool my jersey is. I used to have a really great wool Brooklyn Dodgers jacket; believe it or not, Ernie Banks actually offered to buy it off my back. (Sorry about being a name-dropper, but it's essential to the point.)
Anyway, I agree with many posters here that if you just jettison the bird (a symbol Marquette itself has de-emphasized in recent years) and make the price less than ridiculous (what? $25 wouldn't have been enough of a rip-off?), it would have been a cool, nostalgic thing worth buying ... even for those who weren't alive in 1977.
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2013, 10:01:25 AM
Is it a "geezers living in the past" thing?
Or a "nostalgia is cool" thing?
When I go to concerts, I usually wear either my Minnesota North Stars jersey (game worn by Link Gaetz -- "The Missing Link") or my Miami Dolphins No. 39 Csonka jersey. Every time I do, my wife gives me crap but invariably several people make a point to tell me how cool my jersey is. I used to have a really great wool Brooklyn Dodgers jacket; believe it or not, Ernie Banks actually offered to buy it off my back. (Sorry about being a name-dropper, but it's essential to the point.)
Anyway, I agree with many posters here that if you just jettison the bird (a symbol Marquette itself has de-emphasized in recent years) and make the price less than ridiculous (what? $25 wouldn't have been enough of a rip-off?), it would have been a cool, nostalgic thing worth buying ... even for those who weren't alive in 1977.
I think nostalgia is cool. I would love nothing better, for example, for Marquette to have a Throwback Night where they wear some of those classic '70's jerseys for a game. But I think the '77 championship is a disproportionately large part of the our brand, and it appears to be a deliberate choice on Marquette's part. If I strolled through the Spirit Shop right now I bet I could easily find a couple of dozen examples.
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2013, 10:01:25 AM
Is it a "geezers living in the past" thing?
Or a "nostalgia is cool" thing?
When I go to concerts, I usually wear either my Minnesota North Stars jersey (game worn by Link Gaetz -- "The Missing Link") or my Miami Dolphins No. 39 Csonka jersey. Every time I do, my wife gives me crap but invariably several people make a point to tell me how cool my jersey is. I used to have a really great wool Brooklyn Dodgers jacket; believe it or not, Ernie Banks actually offered to buy it off my back. (Sorry about being a name-dropper, but it's essential to the point.)
Anyway, I agree with many posters here that if you just jettison the bird (a symbol Marquette itself has de-emphasized in recent years) and make the price less than ridiculous (what? $25 wouldn't have been enough of a rip-off?), it would have been a cool, nostalgic thing worth buying ... even for those who weren't alive in 1977.
Your wife should give you crap for being a grown man who wears a jersey no matter where you're going in said jersey.
For the old-timers, or those that live in the pass. Take your pick?
Quote from: warriorchick on April 11, 2013, 10:12:27 AM
I think nostalgia is cool. I would love nothing better, for example, for Marquette to have a Throwback Night where they wear some of those classic '70's jerseys for a game. But I think the '77 championship is a disproportionately large part of the our brand, and it appears to be a deliberate choice on Marquette's part. If I strolled through the Spirit Shop right now I bet I could easily find a couple of dozen examples.
That's a reasonable argument, warriorchick.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 11, 2013, 10:20:07 AM
Your wife should give you crap for being a grown man who wears a jersey no matter where you're going in said jersey.
Guilty as charged. I wouldn't wear a current athlete's jersey, but I do wear the jerseys I mentioned a couple times a year ... and, yes, I guess I'm a dope who deserves to be called out by his wife! :-[
Don't care.
It's just a T-shirt.
If you don't like it, don't buy it. If enough people don't like it and don't buy it, it will disappear.
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2013, 10:32:17 AM
Guilty as charged. I wouldn't wear a current athlete's jersey, but I do wear the jerseys I mentioned a couple times a year ... and, yes, I guess I'm a dope who deserves to be called out by his wife! :-[
Aren't we all? ;D
Quote from: warriorchick on April 11, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
I know this will seem blasphemous to some of you, but while I fully honor, celebrate and respect our '77 championship, I do think that there is such a thing as dwelling on it too much.
I think doing a reproduction a vintage championship tee that was actually sold in 1977 would be really cool, and I would buy one. But mentioning our '77 championship on new stuff is right up there with Bears merchandise that mentions the 1986 Superbowl. That's nice, but what have you done for me lately?
wc, I was a HS junior when the Warriors won the NC. Skipped out of school to attend the parade down Wisconsin Ave. 1977 is a part of why attended MU.
Having that GD Smelly Chicken attached to the NC is an affront to all that is right in the world. OK, I'm overstating my case, but you get the point. Many who were students at the time feel the same.
I agree that nostalgia can go too far. Had a blast in '82 while the Brewers were in the Series, and grew up with Henry Jordan's kids (60's Packer great), but no where near the connection to 1977.
I was in the market for a MU baseball cap. I will not be buying one from this company.
See I partially disagree with this. Now I fully understand the argument that neither the MU logo nor the eagle were our emblems at the time, but I wish Marquette had its logo on more things.
The Brewers have learned that if you slap that ball and glove logo on something, people will pay $35 for it. Whether its yoga pants, shoes or wallets if it has space for a ball and glove or and M, it can be sold. Same is true for the badgers. Bucky badger sells chips and cheese curds.
I think MU's marketing has improve greatly over the past few years and fanatics store has decent products, but its a long way from where it could be. player jersey Ts at the games? or some golf accessories (like the putter cover in the picture on the fanatics web page)? maybe a soccer jersey? some old school eagle gear?
and furthermore, the cool things MU sold have been discontinued. I so badly want a pair of MU chinos and a legal portfolio...
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2013, 10:32:17 AM
Guilty as charged. I wouldn't wear a current athlete's jersey, but I do wear the jerseys I mentioned a couple times a year ... and, yes, I guess I'm a dope who deserves to be called out by his wife! :-[
My wife didn't even know who the North Stars were until after we were married, so she has no right to give me crap when I wear my 1991 Stanley Cup Finals t-shirt. Though she does give me crap as to my method of storage (on a separate shelf in the closet away from all the other t-shirts) and my insistence that it only be washed on the gentle cycle or by hand and laid flat to dry.
I just wish they wouldn't put Golden Eagles or the chicken hawk on anything. It drives my wife crazy when she is birthday/Christmas/Random Tuesday shopping because she knows I won't wear any MU gear with either thing on them.
Apparently the 2003 fanatic t-shirt with holes every where is not something she wants to see me wearing all the time.
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2013, 10:01:25 AM
I used to have a really great wool Brooklyn Dodgers jacket; believe it or not, Ernie Banks actually offered to buy it off my back.
Probably because his ex-wife sold all his memorabilia
Quote from: warriorchick on April 11, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
I know this will seem blasphemous to some of you, but while I fully honor, celebrate and respect our '77 championship, I do think that there is such a thing as dwelling on it too much.
Our championship was 36 years ago. In a lot of ways, constantly referring to it in promotions (which is all a T-shirt is, really) can be counterproductive. It's hard to look backward and forward at the same time.
I might be wrong, but I don't think a lot of other teams with single championships won decades ago are still putting it on merchandise. If Loyola printed hoodies that said "National Champs 1963", it would be considered sarcastic. We aren't quite there yet, but we are getting close.
I think doing a reproduction a vintage championship tee that was actually sold in 1977 would be really cool, and I would buy one. But mentioning our '77 championship on new stuff is right up there with Bears merchandise that mentions the 1986 Superbowl. That's nice, but what have you done for me lately?
I, for one, am saving space in my closet for the T-shirt that says "Marquette National Champs 201_".
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Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 11, 2013, 09:17:08 AM
How about the '69 Cubs? Not only did they not win it, they choked it away in spectacular fashion. Three members of that team have statues outside the stadium and four (Banks, Williams, Jenkins, Santo) have their numbers retired. It's absurd.
They have statues based on their play as players, not whether they won the title...right? Is a championship a requirement to be honored? It's a team sport, lots of moving parts to win it all, I don't see an issue with honoring some of the key individuals, especially since they were members of other Cubs teams as well.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 11, 2013, 01:32:56 PM
They have statues based on their play as players, not whether they won the title...right? Is a championship a requirement to be honored? It's a team sport, lots of moving parts to win it all, I don't see an issue with honoring some of the key individuals, especially since they were members of other Cubs teams as well.
All one needs to know about the Cubs is that their most popular team (to their longtime fans) since World War II is one that is synonymous with choking.
Ask a group of casual to ardent sports fans to name the 10 biggest chokers in sports history, and almost all would list the '69 Cubs, who in a matter of weeks went from a huge division lead to an enormous deficit. And yet Cubbie fans
adore that team!
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2013, 04:17:44 PM
All one needs to know about the Cubs is that their most popular team (to their longtime fans) since World War II is one that is synonymous with choking.
Ask a group of casual to ardent sports fans to name the 10 biggest chokers in sports history, and almost all would list the '69 Cubs, who in a matter of weeks went from a huge division lead to an enormous deficit. And yet Cubbie fans adore that team!
I get what you are saying, I'm just trying to understand why having their number retired or a statue for these players is a bad thing, just because they didn't win a championship? Williams is a Hall of Famer, as is Ernie Banks as is Fegie Jenkins. Why wouldn't they be honored?
When I was with the Angels we retired Nolan Ryan's number, Rod Carew, Reggie Jackson among others...none of them won a title with the Angels, but all three were Hall of Famers that made huge contributions to the franchise.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 11, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
Our championship was 36 years ago.
Yea, it was almost 230 years ago when we told the Brits to f#ck off. We should probably give the whole 4th of July thing a rest.
Chick, some things are ageless.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 11, 2013, 11:53:50 PM
I get what you are saying, I'm just trying to understand why having their number retired or a statue for these players is a bad thing, just because they didn't win a championship? Williams is a Hall of Famer, as is Ernie Banks as is Fegie Jenkins. Why wouldn't they be honored?
When I was with the Angels we retired Nolan Ryan's number, Rod Carew, Reggie Jackson among others...none of them won a title with the Angels, but all three were Hall of Famers that made huge contributions to the franchise.
Reggie Jackson's number is not retired by the Angels.
Is this the same company that put the Michigan "M" on Marquette's 2003 Final Four caps?
Getting back to the original question of the thread title, inflammatory seems to be too strong of a word, but I admit that it seems in poor taste or poorly researched.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 11, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
I know this will seem blasphemous to some of you, but while I fully honor, celebrate and respect our '77 championship, I do think that there is such a thing as dwelling on it too much. Our championship was 36 years ago.
I think doing a reproduction a vintage championship tee that was actually sold in 1977 would be really cool, and I would buy one.
I, for one, am saving space in my closet for the T-shirt that says "Marquette National Champs 201_".
Amen, a woman who speaks sense!
First, we were Warriors in 1977 and the logo commerating our championship was distinctive. The most predominant part of the logo was the number "1". I gave one to my best friend in Nashville, who promptly wore it to North Carolina. A truer friend one could not find after that!
That said, WC, you're right. It's time to move on. Let's honor the past, but not overdo it. I may be speaking herasy, but maybe it's time to think the same about Al.
And yes, I have a space in my closet for the 2013-2014 National Championship shirt, too!
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 11, 2013, 09:17:08 AM
How about the '69 Cubs? Not only did they not win it, they choked it away in spectacular fashion. Three members of that team have statues outside the stadium and four (Banks, Williams, Jenkins, Santo) have their numbers retired. It's absurd.
Those four players are also all in the Hall of Fame, meaning their accomplishments go well beyond a single season.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 12, 2013, 06:59:43 AM
Reggie Jackson's number is not retired by the Angels.
Good catch, I thought we had. Instead they have the 500th HR of his career marked out there. We're still at 6 numbers at this point.
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on April 12, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
Those four players are also all in the Hall of Fame, meaning their accomplishments go well beyond a single season.
So are Andre Dawson, Cap Anson, Gabby Harnett, Hack Wilsom, Tinker, Evers and Chance...where are their statues?
There is no bigger Cub fan than me, but the attention and adoration given to losers is nauseating. Look no further than Kerry Wood...a total and complete disappointment, if not an absolute failure. Yet he's held up as some preeminent "Cub?" Why? He was a loser!!
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 12, 2013, 01:38:42 PM
There is no bigger Cub fan than me, but the attention and adoration given to losers is nauseating. Look no further than Kerry Wood...a total and complete disappointment, if not an absolute failure. Yet he's held up as some preeminent "Cub?" Why? He was a loser!!
Asked and answered in five words. I like brevity.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 12, 2013, 01:38:42 PM
So are Andre Dawson, Cap Anson, Gabby Harnett, Hack Wilsom, Tinker, Evers and Chance...where are their statues?
There is no bigger Cub fan than me, but the attention and adoration given to losers is nauseating. Look no further than Kerry Wood...a total and complete disappointment, if not an absolute failure. Yet he's held up as some preeminent "Cub?" Why? He was a loser!!
Adoration of non-winners is not unique to the Cubs. The '82 Brewers lost the World Series and are honored every chance they get. US Cellular has statues of Carlton Fisk and Harold Baines. Willie Mays never won in San Francisco and Ken Griffey Jr. never won in Seattle (or anywhere else). The Padres lost the only two times they've been in the World Series, and they all seem to like Tony Gwynn.
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on April 12, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
Those four players are also all in the Hall of Fame, meaning their accomplishments go well beyond a single season.
Those guys were together on the Cubs for a long time, and the BEST the Cubs did in their era was to finish 8 or 9 games behind the Mets in '69. One of the reasons it took Santo so long to make the Hall was that voter's didn't think a team with such a record of futility deserved 4 in Cooperstown.
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on April 12, 2013, 07:59:20 PM
Adoration of non-winners is not unique to the Cubs. The '82 Brewers lost the World Series and are honored every chance they get. US Cellular has statues of Carlton Fisk and Harold Baines. Willie Mays never won in San Francisco and Ken Griffey Jr. never won in Seattle (or anywhere else). The Padres lost the only two times they've been in the World Series, and they all seem to like Tony Gwynn.
Please. 44 years Cub fans are still celebrating a team that blew a huge lead and finished nearly double digits out of first place. That's unique.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 12, 2013, 08:24:53 PM
Please. 44 years Cub fans are still celebrating a team that blew a huge lead and finished nearly double digits out of first place. That's unique.
St. Louis Cardinals fan gere. Basic theory in life: We play baseball the old fashioned way -- WE WIN!!!
Same with Marquette. We celebrate winning, not mediocrity
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 12, 2013, 11:53:20 PM
St. Louis Cardinals fan gere. Basic theory in life: We play baseball the old fashioned way -- WE WIN!!!
Same with Marquette. We celebrate winning, not mediocrity
Not to be a dick, but you have a crappy fan mentality.
Quote from: Aughnanure on April 12, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
Not to be a dick, but you have a crappy fan mentality.
I beg your pardon! My fan mentality is simple. I know we are going to have off years, be it the Cardinals or Marquette (or the Packers for that matter). Recruiting or farm teams don't pan out from time to time and, sometimes, things just do not come together. That's life. You hate bad seasons but you know from time to time they will happen. At least Marquette had the good sense to cut its losses with Bob Dukiet and Mike Deane.
But I loathe the Cub fans who allow their team to take advantage of them year in and year out by putting a crappy product on the field and yet they show up 3 million strong.
105 years since a World Championship and 68 years since an NL Championship? Baah. That's incompetence! Even the Miami Marlins have been World Champions TWICE in that time. No human being alive today has seen a contemporary World Champion Chicago Cubs banner fly over Wrigley Field. The teams celebrates being loveable losers. Do that in St. Louis and you won't have 500,000 people a year at the park.
Honor our past, including 1977 (when I was a junior), Al and even 2003. But to Warriorchick's point, let's keep moving! If we get too hung up in the past, we won't focus on the present. Marquette doesn't need to be the college basketball version of the Cubs, nor do I want our legacy to be grainy color footage of something that happened when I was a kid. Or a bunch of ballplayers dressed in 1970s era formal wear (yuck) around an old car.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 14, 2013, 08:40:27 AM
But I loathe the Cub fans who allow their team to take advantage of them year in and year out by putting a crappy product on the field and yet they show up 3 million strong.
I feel you man. The red sox did this as well for years. They marketed stuff like curses and their "charming" ball park and fans kept pouring in. In the end baseball is a business and the owners are in it to make money. If a team is losing yet still getting 3 million people a year their is no motivation to make your team a winner because the owners are happy making money.
Quote from: Benny B on April 11, 2013, 11:43:52 AM
My wife didn't even know who the North Stars were until after we were married, so she has no right to give me crap when I wear my 1991 Stanley Cup Finals t-shirt. Though she does give me crap as to my method of storage (on a separate shelf in the closet away from all the other t-shirts) and my insistence that it only be washed on the gentle cycle or by hand and laid flat to dry.
Doesn't she do this for all your clothes!?! ;D