MU is number 9!
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9147684/very-early-top-25-2013-14-season-ncaa-men-college-basketball
9. Marquette Golden Eagles: If the 2012-13 season taught us anything, it's not to count out Marquette. Not as long as Buzz Williams is its coach. The Golden Eagles lost their two top players (Jae Crowder and Darius-Johnson Odom) from last season's squad, yet still managed to tie for the Big East title and advance to the Elite Eight. Almost every key piece of this season's team will return in 2013-14. That includes leading scorers Vander Blue (14.8 points) and Davante Gardner (11.5) as well as glue guy Jamil Wilson (9.7 points, 4.9 rebounds). Marquette will also add the Class of 2013's No. 3-ranked shooting guard in Memphis native JaJuan Johnson. Rising junior Todd Mayo and incoming freshman Duane Wilson will try to make up for the loss of Junior Cadougan and Trent Lockett in the backcourt. Marquette plays as hard as any team in the country. Next season could be special.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 08, 2013, 11:55:50 PM...season taught us anything, it's not to count out Marquette...Marquette plays as hard as any team in the country. Next season could be special.
I feel like that was said last year and they all counted us out.
So MU only Big East team in Top 25...
Michigan not in the top 25?
American Athletic Conf gonna be tough at the top.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on April 09, 2013, 12:11:00 AM
Michigan not in the top 25?
Based on the assumption that Burke, McGary, Robinson and Hardaway would all leave early. Seems fair to me.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on April 09, 2013, 12:11:00 AM
Michigan not in the top 25?
Georgetown not even mentioned.
Last year Kentucky was #3, lost in the first round of the NIT. Next year they are projected as no.1
The entire model of super freshman "1 and done" classes is on the line next year. If Kentucky bombs out again, Calipari is going to have to rethink his model.
Now before you tell is why it will not happen again, remember that this year was not suppose to happen in Lexington. Kentucky was suppose to be the team from the blue grass state cutting down the nets last night.
Fact is relying on Freshman is always dicey. They could gel into a team, like two years ago, or fall apart like last year. Problem is they only have a few weeks to get it together.
As long as Calipari continues with this model, every year Kentucky will be No.1 or NIT bound with nothing in between.
MU's write-up makes no mention of McKay and/or Otule.
Next year McKay might be the newcomer most ready to contribute right-away. Add the Otule we saw for the last 10 games for an entire season (hopefully!) and #9 might be too low.
If Vander and/or Duane Wilson can run the point effectively, so Derrick Wilson does not have to play 40 minutes ... final four next year.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 09, 2013, 06:48:08 AM
Kentucky was suppose to be the team from the blue grass state cutting down the nets last night.
Most if not all had Louisville above Kentucky:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7767401/indiana-hoosiers-continue-moving-2012-13
http://espn.go.com/espn/dickvitale/story/_/id/7845140/dick-vitale-preseason-top-40-2012-13
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1362230-college-basketball-rankings-combined-2012-13-preseason-top-25-ranking
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57534443/indiana-no-1-in-preseason-ncaa-mens-basketball-poll/
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2012-05-22/college-basketball-rankings-2012-13-top-25-mike-decourcy
Tires of looking to find one that backs up your claim that UK was supposed to win it all :P
Nice recognition, but I'd hardly call Mayo a "rising junior." Also, I think Jamil is far more than a "glue guy."
I think it showed in the Elite 8 that a team has to have an inside-out game to advance. MU has the inside game but JJJ and DuWilson need to play that role as freshman to meet such lofty expectations. Michigan softened up that Cuse zone forcing Coach Bo to extend it which opened McGary and Robinson in the middle of it or behind it, for example. We know how bad a shooting game against Cuse was for MU, but it was 0.1 pt. way from being the worst eFG% game in recorded history. Those two need to get significant freshman minutes, while JWilson, Jaun, Van and Todd improve to mediocre on treys.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/stats?season1=1997&season2=2012&conf=&team=marquette&stat=effective_fg_pct&low=1
MU won this year with a ton of experience and depth and a little talent. No injuries, and just a little drama. If the frosh step up, watch out next year, and I am of the camp that DuWilson starts eventually as MU needs to uptempo it to get transition threes before defenses set up.
Sports writers glom onto the "one and done" thing with Cal, but people forget they also had a lot of experienced players returning to that National Championship team due to the NBA lockout affecting that draft's early entries. His Memphis F2 team was the same.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 09, 2013, 07:10:54 AM
Sports writers glom onto the "one and done" thing with Cal, but people forget they also had a lot of experienced players returning to that National Championship team due to the NBA lockout affecting that draft's early entries. His Memphis F2 team was the same.
+1. Interesting to see next year with Noel, Goodwin and Harrel thought to be leaving early and May granduating (around 45 + points), although they have 3 contributors returning.
People point to this year as the norm for Cal/Kentucky and say 1 and done doesn't truly work, claiming that their National Championship was the exception to the rule. We forget that they were in the Final Four with a lot of 1 and dones the year before and I believe the Elite 8 the year before that. He also had his years at Memphis where it worked out just fine for him. I hate the guy and I hate the way he wins, but this year was more the exception than it was the rule. Even this year, Kentucky was starting to come around whenNoel got injured.
I guess we'll see what happens, but I would not at all be surprised if they are right back at the top next year. I don't see Cal failing to succeed with his system for an extended period of time; however, not many programs will be able to follow the same system...only so much 1 and done talent to go around.
The way McGary talked in the postgame, it sounds like he will be back.
Quote from: bradley center bat on April 09, 2013, 07:59:28 AM
The way McGary talked in the postgame, it sounds like he will be back.
All players sound like that after an emotional loss. Means nothing. Give it a few days.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 09, 2013, 12:02:33 AM
So MU only Big East team in Top 25...
Honestly, I'm ok with that, especially if we are ranked top 10 to start the season. At that point, all we have to do is keep winning, and we will move up the rankings. Plus, I'd love to win the conference in its first year. And even if there aren't others in the Top 25, there will be plenty of top 100 RPI opponents in the new Big East, which is what really matters come tournament time.
Also, St. John's, Butler, and Villanova were all listed as one of the other 15 teams to watch (top 40).
Mayo is a "rising junior?" I hope he's right.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 09, 2013, 08:45:37 AM
Mayo is a "rising junior?" I hope he's right.
Rising junior simply means he's going to be a junior next year, as opposed to being a junior right now. It is not a comment on his expected level of play.
Mcgary went to a 5th year of Prep school, and was old for his grade as well. He is 1 month older then Vander. Scouts will love his Size and feet, toughness and soft hands but he still needs allot of work on his post moves and jump shot. If too many of the guys leave he will get doubled allot and it might expose his Off game. He would go in the Top 20 this year and probably about the same in he is solid next year. He would need a big year to move up into the top 10. I think you could make a good argument either way on him staying or going, But the fact he would be 22 before next years draft means he will have to go as a soph if he has a good year or not, he might want to really consider going. Coming back as Jr and being 23 when the draft comes around would be a big mistake.
Quote from: CTWarrior on April 09, 2013, 09:09:19 AM
Rising junior simply means he's going to be a junior next year, as opposed to being a junior right now. It is not a comment on his expected level of play.
Oh. I thought maybe he was being forced to repeat his sophomore year ;)
Quote from: bradley center bat on April 09, 2013, 07:59:28 AM
The way McGary talked in the postgame, it sounds like he will be back.
The way McGary talks, I'm surprised he made it through the first year of school. The academic requirements (to stay eligible) disproportionately jump after the first year, so unless the faculty is going to take a few pages from Auburn's grading guidelines, McGary may be best served to declare ASAP.
Quote from: Benny B on April 09, 2013, 09:21:13 AM
The way McGary talks, I'm surprised he made it through the first year of school. The academic requirements (to stay eligible) disproportionately jump after the first year, so unless the faculty is going to take a few pages from Auburn's grading guidelines, McGary may be best served to declare ASAP.
Believe McGary has publicly admitted to a learning disability.
He's also 21. If he stays, and even plays at a high level for an entire season, NBA people will start to use his age against him in subsequent drafting pools. McGary has to take advantage of a ridiculous three weeks and get a paycheck.
i like McGary a lot, but I would not be happy if my NBA team drafted him in the first round. poor mans tyler hansborough? maybe? pass
Quote from: LAMUfan on April 09, 2013, 09:27:20 AM
i like McGary a lot, but I would not be happy if my NBA team drafted him in the first round. poor mans tyler hansborough? maybe? pass
I'd love to have Hansborough on the Bulls. That said, I think McGary would be a nice pick based on ability, but his make up scares me. Who wants to hand that kid a couple million dollars?
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 08, 2013, 11:55:50 PM
9. Marquette Golden Eagles: If the 2012-13 season taught us anything, it's not to count out Marquette. Not as long as Buzz Williams is its coach. The Golden Eagles lost their two top players (Jae Crowder and Darius-Johnson Odom) from last season's squad, yet still managed to tie for the Big East title and advance to the Elite Eight. Almost every key piece of this season's team will return in 2013-14. That includes leading scorers Vander Blue (14.8 points) and Davante Gardner (11.5) as well as glue guy Jamil Wilson (9.7 points, 4.9 rebounds). Marquette will also add the Class of 2013's No. 3-ranked shooting guard in Memphis native JaJuan Johnson. Rising junior Todd Mayo and incoming freshman Duane Wilson will try to make up for the loss of Junior Cadougan and Trent Lockett in the backcourt. Marquette plays as hard as any team in the country. Next season could be special.
1) As I said in another post, we are a contender for a national championship next year (key word is "contender").
2) "Rising" junior -- who knows what that means? Could Todd not be with us next year? I think there is considerable need for a pick-up in his game next year.
3) Our Juco addition will start next year along with Jamil. Juan, we hope, will do a "Vander" over the summer and pick up his game.
I think "9" may be light given what we think we know about next year.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 09, 2013, 06:48:08 AM
Last year Kentucky was #3, lost in the first round of the NIT. Next year they are projected as no.1
The entire model of super freshman "1 and done" classes is on the line next year. If Kentucky bombs out again, Calipari is going to have to rethink his model.
Now before you tell is why it will not happen again, remember that this year was not suppose to happen in Lexington. Kentucky was suppose to be the team from the blue grass state cutting down the nets last night.
Fact is relying on Freshman is always dicey. They could gel into a team, like two years ago, or fall apart like last year. Problem is they only have a few weeks to get it together.
As long as Calipari continues with this model, every year Kentucky will be No.1 or NIT bound with nothing in between.
Why rethink a model that won you a championship a year ago?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 09, 2013, 07:04:22 AM
I think it showed in the Elite 8 that a team has to have an inside-out game to advance. MU has the inside game but JJJ and DuWilson need to play that role as freshman to meet such lofty expectations. Michigan softened up that Cuse zone forcing Coach Bo to extend it which opened McGary and Robinson in the middle of it or behind it, for example. We know how bad a shooting game against Cuse was for MU, but it was 0.1 pt. way from being the worst eFG% game in recorded history. Those two need to get significant freshman minutes, while JWilson, Jaun, Van and Todd improve to mediocre on treys.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/stats?season1=1997&season2=2012&conf=&team=marquette&stat=effective_fg_pct&low=1
MU won this year with a ton of experience and depth and a little talent. No injuries, and just a little drama. If the frosh step up, watch out next year, and I am of the camp that DuWilson starts eventually as MU needs to uptempo it to get transition threes before defenses set up.
Excellent, excellent points, Doc.
Before this past season, I thought a lack of 3-point shooting would condemn Marquette to bubble status. We overcame that with grit, improvement from several players and, yes, some good fortune.
Anybody who watched the tournament could see the impact 3-point shooting had. Luke Hancock was Final Four MOP, for crissakes, and Spike Albrecht almost singlehandedly carried Michigan in the first half last night.
The 3-pointer came into play big time even in Marquette's amazing game against Davidson. We fell behind partly because they hit 3s and we couldn't. And we came back because we suddenly hit three very difficult 3s.
To repeat this year's success -- or to improve upon it, preferably! -- we need to be more of a threat from downtown. Period.
What's the scouting report on JJJ's and DuWil's shot from range? Do these guys have the touch from downtown to make any impact?
About 1/2 the Draft you worry about giving them a $$, Mcgary is a few inchs taller then Tyler and has a much bigger frame and is probably a better athlete. He has true power forward Size and can actually play center in the NBA with so few true center's in the league. He has come a long way the last 2-3 years from being a fringe HM that was pretty imature to a 5 star and starting and making a Big impact on a Nat runner up as FR.
Quote from: Benny B on April 09, 2013, 09:52:59 AM
What's the scouting report on JJJ's and DuWil's shot from range? Do these guys have the touch from downtown to make any impact?
Based on what I've read, they both can shoot it, but JJJ is the better pure shooter of the two. I think both could help with outside shooting if given the chance.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 09, 2013, 07:01:52 AM
Nice recognition, but I'd hardly call Mayo a "rising junior." Also, I think Jamil is far more than a "glue guy."
agreed 100%
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 09, 2013, 06:48:08 AM
Last year Kentucky was #3, lost in the first round of the NIT. Next year they are projected as no.1
The entire model of super freshman "1 and done" classes is on the line next year. If Kentucky bombs out again, Calipari is going to have to rethink his model.
Now before you tell is why it will not happen again, remember that this year was not suppose to happen in Lexington. Kentucky was suppose to be the team from the blue grass state cutting down the nets last night.
Fact is relying on Freshman is always dicey. They could gel into a team, like two years ago, or fall apart like last year. Problem is they only have a few weeks to get it together.
As long as Calipari continues with this model, every year Kentucky will be No.1 or NIT bound with nothing in between.
Care to make a wager? UK will never just make an NCAA tournament during Calipari's tenure? Only win it all or go to the NIT?
Your analysis is decent most of the time, and your premise is right (1 and dones are dicey), but the hyperbole gets old.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 09, 2013, 07:01:52 AM
Nice recognition, but I'd hardly call Mayo a "rising junior." Also, I think Jamil is far more than a "glue guy."
It shows how little they pay attention to the team when they keep thinking Mayo is going to be a major contributor.
Quote from: Bocephys on April 09, 2013, 12:20:25 PM
It shows how little they pay attention to the team when they keep thinking Mayo is going to be a major contributor.
What do we know about this Todd mayo kid?
He's oj's little brother.
Ah. Rising junior it is.
Not one pundit has raised the possibility of Chris Otule coming back. It's unreal to me how little insight there is in these things. We only know about MU...imagine how off they are on other schools.
Quote from: The Lens on April 09, 2013, 01:20:20 PM
Not one pundit has raised the possibility of Chris Otule coming back. It's unreal to me how little insight there is in these things. We only know about MU...imagine how off they are on other schools.
When you cover 100+ teams, it's tough to keep track of which role-playing, senior center is getting a sixth year of eligibility.
We're 7 on NBC's list, and 10 on CBS's. CBS has Otule listed as "expected to leave."
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/09/the-way-too-early-preseason-top-25/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/09/the-way-too-early-preseason-top-25/)
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/22036310 (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/22036310)
Quote from: LAMUfan on April 09, 2013, 09:27:20 AM
i like McGary a lot, but I would not be happy if my NBA team drafted him in the first round. poor mans tyler hansborough? maybe? pass
Hansborough? They play 2 very different games. If McGary compares to anybody in the NBA while coming out of college, it's Kevin Love.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 09, 2013, 07:13:38 PM
Hansborough? They play 2 very different games. If McGary compares to anybody in the NBA while coming out of college, it's Kevin Love.
McGary isn't nearly the shooter that Love was/is.
I'd liken him more to a smaller Andrew Bogut.
And, yeah, I too am falling into the trap of comparing a white guy to a white guy.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 09, 2013, 07:13:38 PM
Hansborough? They play 2 very different games. If McGary compares to anybody in the NBA while coming out of college, it's Kevin Love.
He reminds me a little of Joakim Noah. Athletic, runs the floor well, good handler and passer for a big man.
Quote from: Benny B on April 09, 2013, 09:21:13 AM
The way McGary talks, I'm surprised he made it through the first year of school. The academic requirements (to stay eligible) disproportionately jump after the first year, so unless the faculty is going to take a few pages from Auburn's grading guidelines, McGary may be best served to declare ASAP.
He had to repeat his entire junior year of high school. It would be entertaining to have the Wonderlic test for the NBA draft.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 09, 2013, 07:53:50 AM
People point to this year as the norm for Cal/Kentucky and say 1 and done doesn't truly work, claiming that their National Championship was the exception to the rule. We forget that they were in the Final Four with a lot of 1 and dones the year before and I believe the Elite 8 the year before that. He also had his years at Memphis where it worked out just fine for him. I hate the guy and I hate the way he wins, but this year was more the exception than it was the rule. Even this year, Kentucky was starting to come around whenNoel got injured.
I guess we'll see what happens, but I would not at all be surprised if they are right back at the top next year. I don't see Cal failing to succeed with his system for an extended period of time; however, not many programs will be able to follow the same system...only so much 1 and done talent to go around.
Huge difference between last year's class for Kentucky and the one coming up. On paper, this class is far better than the one from 2 years ago and light years above last year.
Obviously games haven't started yet, but this is the most highly rated class ever!
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 09, 2013, 07:23:32 PM
He reminds me a little of Joakim Noah. Athletic, runs the floor well, good handler and passer for a big man.
That's not a bad call, but from what I've seen of McGary he's not as athletic as Noah or nearly as good on defense. Of course, the latter criticism is pretty harsh, given that he's only a frosh.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 09, 2013, 07:33:38 PM
That's not a bad call, but from what I've seen of McGary he's not as athletic as Noah or nearly as good on defense. Of course, the latter criticism is pretty harsh, given that he's only a frosh.
Agree he's got miles to go to become Noah, but think his future is as a "point center" like Joakim.
Jason King has always been one of the very few to talk highly of MU. I think 9 is very fair but just don't believe we will get the support from the other voters.
Quote from: buzzchiapet on April 09, 2013, 08:21:55 PM
Jason King has always been one of the very few to talk highly of MU. I think 9 is very fair but just don't believe we will get the support from the other voters.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/202226261.html
The lowest any of these list us is at 12 (and they have the Badgers at 11 in that one, so I don't think that one's the most accurate of them all...). Other than that everyone else has us above 10.
Physically, McGary is a Dave Cowens clone. Don't know about his head, however.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-04-09/ncaa-basketball-top-25-rankings-2013-14-kentucky-michigan-st-arizona-louisville/slide/11
Having Becky higher than MU is just insanity. Somewhere in the 8-10 range seems about right for MU at this point.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 09, 2013, 08:27:21 PM
Physically, McGary is a Dave Cowens clone. Don't know about his head, however.
I disagree. Cowens was a much better athlete - not to mention sa better shooter, passr, ans rebounder,
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 09, 2013, 07:26:34 PM
It would be entertaining to have the Wonderlic test for the NBA draft.
Agreed!
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 09, 2013, 07:26:34 PM
He had to repeat his entire junior year of high school. It would be entertaining to have the Wonderlic test for the NBA draft.
So we can feel superior to future millionaires?
Quote from: Pakuni on April 09, 2013, 10:03:53 PM
So we can feel superior to future millionaires?
Future millionaires who blow it all and end up in the poor house.
It's America...
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 09, 2013, 10:05:43 PM
Future millionaires who blow it all and end up in the poor house.
It's America...
Yes, that way you can feel superior twice.
Jealousy is such an ugly emotion.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 09, 2013, 07:26:34 PM
He had to repeat his entire junior year of high school. It would be entertaining to have the Wonderlic test for the NBA draft.
That would really be great. You could feel superior to and make fun of kids like McGary with learning disabilities.
Regarding our wager on whether he goes in the top 14 if he comes out - Name any number you're comfortable with.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 09, 2013, 10:14:53 PM
That would really be great. You could feel superior to and make fun of kids like McGary with learning disabilities.
Regarding our wager on whether he goes in the top 14 if he comes out - Name any number you're comfortable with.
Although I'm sensitive to this statement, you have to realize that many students (in some cases most students) are diagnosed with learning disabilities nowadays. ADD is a learning disability, difficulty taking notes is a learning disability. Frankly if he is ADD, so is about 90% of americans.
Quote from: forgetful on April 10, 2013, 12:06:44 AM
Although I'm sensitive to this statement, you have to realize that many students (in some cases most students) are diagnosed with learning disabilities nowadays. ADD is a learning disability, difficulty taking notes is a learning disability. Frankly if he is ADD, so is about 90% of americans.
ADD (or ADHD) is not considered a learning disability.
In fact, many people with ADD/ADHD are quite intelligent.
And, in actuality, the large, large majority of students nowadays are not diagnosed with learning disabilities.
But yeah, these kids today and their learning disabilities ....
Just to put it out there because it is annoying the piss outta me reading through this thread: the phrase "rising junior" means he is rising from sophomore to junior. Goodman isnt trying to say Mayo is talented or on the rise...simply that he will be a junior next year, but is currently a soph.
Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 10, 2013, 12:25:11 AM
ADD (or ADHD) is not considered a learning disability.
In fact, many people with ADD/ADHD are quite intelligent.
And, in actuality, the large, large majority of students nowadays are not diagnosed with learning disabilities.
But yeah, these kids today and their learning disabilities ....
ADD is not considered a learning disability, but since it fits under the american disability act, most students that have ADD refer to themselves as having a learning disability. This is what McGary was discussing in the media, so he may be referring to ADD even though it is technically not defined as a learning disability. I use the broad statement of learning disabilities to include "other health impaired" as it relates to educational processes. In fact many students qualify under the "other health impaired".
If McGary is referring to these "other health impaired", then I give him no sympathy because as you note, these people are typically quite intelligent.
Importantly, you suggest that intelligence is contradictory to learning disabilities. This would be patently false. Many to most students that suffer from learning disabilities like dyslexia are quite intelligent some bordering on genius.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 09, 2013, 10:14:53 PM
That would really be great. You could feel superior to and make fun of kids like McGary with learning disabilities.
Regarding our wager on whether he goes in the top 14 if he comes out - Name any number you're comfortable with.
Is "would rather play ball than read a book" a learning disability?
Just for the record, McGary's learning disability according to his own words is ADHD.
Quote from: brandx on April 09, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
I disagree. Cowens was a much better athlete - not to mention sa better shooter, passr, ans rebounder,
In addition to all of that, Cowens would have made several 3's per game. Far superior to McGary in every way.
They do share a certain Caucasianess, however.
Quote from: forgetful on April 10, 2013, 12:59:15 AM
ADD is not considered a learning disability, but since it fits under the american disability act, most students that have ADD refer to themselves as having a learning disability.
Simply because you claim "most students that have ADD refer to themselves as having a learning disability*" doesn't mean they actually do have a learning disability or that ADD is a learning disability. They don't and it isn't. You were wrong, just as you were wrong when you said many/most students nowadays are diagnosed LD (the real number is about 13 percent, and that's held steady since the late 90s).
* citation needed
QuoteImportantly, you suggest that intelligence is contradictory to learning disabilities. This would be patently false. Many to most students that suffer from learning disabilities like dyslexia are quite intelligent some bordering on genius.
No, I made no suggestion anywhere close to that. I said students with ADHD/ADD can be quite intelligent and, as we both know, ADHD/ADD are not learning disabilities. I made no comment on the intelligence of LD students.
I had gastroenteritis last week... my health was impaired... does that mean I now have a learning disability?
Quote from: forgetful on April 10, 2013, 12:59:15 AM
ADD is not considered a learning disability, but since it fits under the american disability act, most students that have ADD refer to themselves as having a learning disability. This is what McGary was discussing in the media, so he may be referring to ADD even though it is technically not defined as a learning disability. I use the broad statement of learning disabilities to include "other health impaired" as it relates to educational processes. In fact many students qualify under the "other health impaired".
Please do not do this. You are not the chairman of the AMA.