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Title: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Jandern7 on September 17, 2007, 10:40:43 PM
http://thebiglead.com/?p=3175

D Wade and Bruce Pearl, No Longer Hindered by Marriage

If you see some women wandering the streets of Miami this weekend with that money-hungry look in their eyes, it's probably because Shaq isn't the only bachelor in town - D. Wade is also getting divorced, so sayeth Miami Sports Blog. Nobody who parties in Miami is surprised by this. The couple has been together for quite some time ... so he'll probably be out $10 million. At least.

Also, the Knoxville News is reporting that Tennessee coach Bruce Pearl recently filed for divorce from his wife of 25 years. The team returned from an 11-day trip to Europe and then the couple split. Before anyone tries to connect the dots to the Pat Summitt divorce, please read our blind item from months ago.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: muwarrior87 on September 17, 2007, 11:07:44 PM
sad to see. it's hard to keep a college or earlier romance together...especially when you're dwade and have that kind of publicity on you.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 18, 2007, 12:00:43 AM
Sad...I was hoping they could be one of the few NBA couples to pull it off, not many do.  Sad if true.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on September 18, 2007, 12:30:50 AM
Why?

It seemed to me that he was set with to be with her...Wade doesn't seem to be the type to do that...I hope he wasn't sleeping around...
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: mu_hilltopper on September 18, 2007, 07:57:12 AM
So sad.  I can only guess it's a deal where fame and fortune ruined love.  Hope the rumor isn't true.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Marquette84 on September 18, 2007, 08:39:22 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on September 18, 2007, 07:57:12 AM
So sad.  I can only guess it's a deal where fame and fortune ruined love.  Hope the rumor isn't true.

I'm not optimistic. 

His house was on the market earlier this year:
http://whheels.luxist.com/2007/04/08/dwayne-wades-house-estate-of-the-day/ (http://whheels.luxist.com/2007/04/08/dwayne-wades-house-estate-of-the-day/)

It might be something as simple as that they outgrew this starter home.  But seems more likely that it represents a division of assets. 

I hope for the best for all involved--especially the kids.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on September 18, 2007, 08:45:45 AM
My girlfriend searched online and had DWade linked to Kelly Rowland (of Destiny's Child) and some other girl.

As a Wade fan, it drops him down a couple of notches if this "messing around" is true.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: mufan924 on September 18, 2007, 09:28:59 AM
this is not surprising to me seeing as i was in school at the same time he was
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 18, 2007, 09:51:23 AM
They were way too young and inexperienced to get married.

It's too bad, but it doesn't affect my opinion of Wade one way or another.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: RawdogDX on September 18, 2007, 11:17:57 AM
You can blame it on fame or guess that he may have been sleeping around, but honestly what percent of marriages between highschool sweetharts that were stuck with each other due to having a child actually last?

How many people on this page would honestly say that they would have been able to make a marriage between them and their high school gf work if they would have gotten her pregnant.  With or without the fame, with or without any cheating, it was a high risk relationship.  If he would have gotten hit by a bus his sophomore year and became a mail carrier would you have put money on them lasting till death? 

I wish the divorce rate wasn't as high as it is, but it's a fact and it's part of our culture.  To assume that we can find any single factor and say that it's to blame is ridiculous. 

Oh, and she's getting way more than 10 mil.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: augoman on September 18, 2007, 12:58:44 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 18, 2007, 09:51:23 AM
They were way too young and inexperienced to get married.

It's too bad, but it doesn't affect my opinion of Wade one way or another.

you're right PRN, they were too young and inexperienced, to have children...,.  the marriage came later.  The fact that he tried to make a family work, and failed, has to be hard on him, regardless of the causes.   Unless, he has changed substantially.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: jaygall31 on September 18, 2007, 01:13:12 PM
Can anyone confirm this? This is a shocker to me....
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Avenue Commons on September 18, 2007, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: mufan924 on September 18, 2007, 09:28:59 AM
this is not surprising to me seeing as i was in school at the same time he was

I've heard similar comments from a lot of guys that were in school as the same time as D-Wade. The only thing that is strange is why now? He's been famous on different levels for 4 or 5 years. It's not like temptation didn't exist for him before and they stayed married. In any event, Siovahn is going to take him to the cleaners.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on September 18, 2007, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: mufan924 on September 18, 2007, 09:28:59 AM
this is not surprising to me seeing as i was in school at the same time he was

I think I know what you are getting at, and you might not be wrong... but the only thing I will say is that a lot of kids immature at 18/19, so it might not be fair or accurate to judge their character based upon some of the choices made in the first 2 years of school.

Obviously, being a good person doesn't just happen when you hit 24yrs old, but I'm just saying a lot of good people might make questionable decisions when they are in their 1st 2 years of college.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: bma725 on September 18, 2007, 06:27:23 PM
Quote from: 2002mualum on September 18, 2007, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: mufan924 on September 18, 2007, 09:28:59 AM
this is not surprising to me seeing as i was in school at the same time he was

I think I know what you are getting at, and you might not be wrong... but the only thing I will say is that a lot of kids immature at 18/19, so it might not be fair or accurate to judge their character based upon some of the choices made in the first 2 years of school.

Obviously, being a good person doesn't just happen when you hit 24yrs old, but I'm just saying a lot of good people might make questionable decisions when they are in their 1st 2 years of college.

Little naive to think it stopped after the first two years.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: muguru on September 18, 2007, 07:00:58 PM
I will say two things on this subject:

1. I hope it's not true because it hurts the kids more then anyone else.

2. I always thought - DELETED.  COME ON!
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 18, 2007, 07:05:26 PM
Quote from: muguru on September 18, 2007, 07:00:58 PM
I will say two things on this subject:

1. I hope it's not true because it hurts the kids more then anyone else.

2. I always thought he ...

What does it mean to do "much better"....on looks?  Personality?   As I've gotten older I've come to realize that looks are great, but at the end of the day we're all going to be old, crusty, wrinkled, sagging, etc at some point and perhaps for a long period of time.  Attractiveness is essential, but I'll take a good woman I can live with for 50 years. 
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 18, 2007, 07:37:28 PM
Let's not forget that she married him when maybe SHE could have done better!
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Coobeys Oil Depot on September 18, 2007, 08:31:50 PM
I know this will come off as pontification but I think it's pathetic to talk about this topic.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: muwarrior87 on September 18, 2007, 09:22:47 PM
i think if it's going to get posted, it's something to know but there's no reason to say one could have done better than who they married. It's sad when it doesn't work out but it's more and more part of today's society, sad to say. People get married early and then things change and they grow tired of each other or the reason they came together is no longer a factor in the relationship.  I hope they can work it out and still be good parents for the boys.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: OneMadWarrior on September 18, 2007, 09:42:20 PM
South Beach+Fame+Money=Divorce
Enough said, he is a great player but very few people are strong enough to overcome temptation when it is thrown at them that often. Most NAB wives know their husbands will cheat (Unless they're Doug Christie) Why don't people get over it. He is young. Let him live a little. Being divorced doesn't mean someone can't be a great role model, father and person. That first statement is what most people think but that is not always the case.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on September 18, 2007, 09:57:20 PM
Quote from: bma725 on September 18, 2007, 06:27:23 PM
Quote from: 2002mualum on September 18, 2007, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: mufan924 on September 18, 2007, 09:28:59 AM
this is not surprising to me seeing as i was in school at the same time he was

I think I know what you are getting at, and you might not be wrong... but the only thing I will say is that a lot of kids immature at 18/19, so it might not be fair or accurate to judge their character based upon some of the choices made in the first 2 years of school.

Obviously, being a good person doesn't just happen when you hit 24yrs old, but I'm just saying a lot of good people might make questionable decisions when they are in their 1st 2 years of college.

Little naive to think it stopped after the first two years.

I hear ya... I'm just saying my first few years of college I did a lot of things that probably wouldn't reflect well on me if I was put under the microscope.

To imply that his marriage didn't work out because of rumors/hearsay or isolated events from when he was 19 is a little misguided.

NOBODY here knows why it didn't work out.

Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Pakuni on September 18, 2007, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: Coobeys Oil Depot on September 18, 2007, 08:31:50 PM
I know this will come off as pontification but I think it's pathetic to talk about this topic.

I second your pontification.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 18, 2007, 10:37:03 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on September 18, 2007, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: Coobeys Oil Depot on September 18, 2007, 08:31:50 PM
I know this will come off as pontification but I think it's pathetic to talk about this topic.

I second your pontification.

If I had to guess it's probably because all of us have heard such great things, he married his high school sweetheart, we were led to believe that he wasn't like every other NBA player.  So it's disappointing to some I would guess.

Is he human, is he allowed to make mistakes...you bet.  I feel for the boys and the couple, it's a shame. 

Some people in society want to hold up famous people to a certain standard...a standard that many every day people live every day.  In a world that continually moves more and more away from "traditional values", values that many of us grew up with in the 1940's, 1950's, 1960's and such....you just hope that people can pull it off.  Yet we're deluged with Paris Hilton, OJ Simpson, etc...it's a bummer to some I would guess.  People sometimes hope for someone to be like them or be like their parents or grandparents. 

At least that's my guess.

If those words are pathetic, I beg forgiveness.  For me, I'm just concerned about the kids.  For others, I'm sure some sincere disappointment.  Nothing shocks me anymore...which I think is really the sad part of it all.  Society ain't what it used to be.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Pakuni on September 19, 2007, 12:56:55 AM
What's pathetic, IMO, is the theorizing about the possible reasons for the apparent breakup of his marriage, the pontificating about how he's "making a mistake" and statements that this somehow places a stain on the character of Dwyane Wade. None of us know the reasons for his possible divorce, and getting divorced does not make one a lesser human being. It means that person had an unsuccessful marriage ... like millions of others.

Beyond all that, it is in and of itself kind of bizarre that some are giving intense scrutiny to the personal relationship of two people none of us know. 

Oh, and I doubt many of us not named Murffeuis grew up in the 40s, 50s and 60s. But I would say that many of the values of the 40s, 50s, and 60s are hardly worth carrying on. That includes divorce, as studies have shown people born prior to 1955 are more likely to have been divorced than people born later.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 19, 2007, 01:18:17 AM
That's why I said 40's, 50's, 60's and such...I wasn't limiting to just those decades.  Many of the values from then aren't worth carrying on, but many many are.  The "greatest generation" didn't come from the previous 20 years as a gentle reminder.

I don't know if your studies are accurate, I assume they are...then again many people today don't even bother to get married so thus they can't get divorced.  I'm assuming your statement came from Hurley's column in the NY Times a few years ago.  I've won many a beer in bets over the years on the divorce rate in this country.  People assume it is 50% because the media has blabbered this for so damn long that it has become truth...that article helped confirm it's not 50%.

However, in reading the whole article you also need to acknowledge that Kreider's Census survey has changed considerably each time he runs it, so the blanket 1955 statement isn't "ironclad" as it were.

Here's a counter argument.

In the ABOLITION OF MARRIAGE, the author states "The marriage rate has fallen nearly 30% since 1970 and the divorce rate has increased about 40%."

http://www.divorcereform.org/rates.html#anchor1223885 (http://www.divorcereform.org/rates.html#anchor1223885)

I hope the kids and everyone involved does ok.  It's a shame for everyone involved.  I'm one of those guys that likes to see marriage work, vows honored, kids raised in a two parent home.  I get bummed when these things don't work out.  It happens.  People change, people grow apart, it's part of life. 
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: RawdogDX on September 19, 2007, 09:49:11 AM
Quote from: Toughmover1016 on September 18, 2007, 09:42:20 PM
South Beach+Fame+Money=Divorce


And as i pointed out before Chicago + No Fame + Mid Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.
Or for that matter
Seattle + No Fame + Lowwer Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.
Or
Dallas + Little Fame(let's say local weatherman) + Upper Mid Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.

It was a high risk marriage, nothing that happened later on changed that.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Henry Sugar on September 19, 2007, 10:51:29 AM
Quote from: RawdogDX on September 19, 2007, 09:49:11 AM
Quote from: Toughmover1016 on September 18, 2007, 09:42:20 PM
South Beach+Fame+Money=Divorce


And as i pointed out before Chicago + No Fame + Mid Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.
Or for that matter
Seattle + No Fame + Lowwer Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.
Or
Dallas + Little Fame(let's say local weatherman) + Upper Mid Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.

It was a high risk marriage, nothing that happened later on changed that.


If South Beach+Fame+Money=Divorce and Any Random City regardless of Fame or social class +  Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.

then, does:

South Beach + Fame + Money = Any Random City + Getting married young because you knocked up your high school GF?

Assuming South Beach is roughly equivalent to "Any Random City", then we can eliminate cities from the equation and:

Fame + Money = Getting married young because you knocked up your high school GF?

Therefore, a sure path to Fame and Money is to knock up your high school GF and get married young.  Surely no one has an issue with this logic.   :P
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Harrison on September 19, 2007, 11:11:09 AM
A couple of things:

1.  Who knows what happened?  It could be that Siovaughn was absolutely terrible and was ruining DWade's life and happiness and he had felt bad that he got here pregnant and had loyalty but just could not take it anymore.  Not saying that is the case but who knows?  Or it could be DWade has this wonderful public image but is a complete A-Hole to her and feels like she trapped him or whatever, and she felt she had to get out for her own happiness.
Thise are two of about a million possible causes.  To some degree who cares?

2. The 50% divorce rate is completely bogus.  Yes 50% of all amrriages fail, but that does not mean 50% of all people get divorced.  Example Jane and joe live next door to you they are married both for the third time.  You and your wife are both on their first marriage.  they divorce rate for that 2 household demographic is 66%or 75% depending on what calcualtion you use.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: spiral97 on September 19, 2007, 11:26:38 AM
something interesting I saw on power of 10 last night (tivo'd):
25% of married americans reported that they have seriously contemplated getting a divorce

i was astonished... I was sure it was at least in the 60% range.. take our divorce rate and add some percentage on top for people who contemplated it but didn't.  something doesn't add up that's for sure.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Harrison on September 19, 2007, 12:40:17 PM
Spiral that simply backs up my point most people and most couples are not getting divorced and most are not contemplating it.  But then you have people getting married 3-4-5-6 times and they scew the entire average.  This 25% number only reinforces the fact the 50% of people do not get divorced, but yes 50% of marriages end in divorce.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Tigidal on September 19, 2007, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: Marquette84 on September 18, 2007, 08:39:22 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on September 18, 2007, 07:57:12 AM
So sad.  I can only guess it's a deal where fame and fortune ruined love.  Hope the rumor isn't true.

I'm not optimistic. 

His house was on the market earlier this year:
http://whheels.luxist.com/2007/04/08/dwayne-wades-house-estate-of-the-day/ (http://whheels.luxist.com/2007/04/08/dwayne-wades-house-estate-of-the-day/)

It might be something as simple as that they outgrew this starter home.  But seems more likely that it represents a division of assets. 

I hope for the best for all involved--especially the kids.

I never thought Wade as the type, as he's usually portrayed as the shy humble one, but talk about tacky...

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.luxist.com/media/2007/04/wade18.jpg)


But at least he had MU represented in the kid's room.. (http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.luxist.com/media/2007/04/wade14.jpg)
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on September 19, 2007, 01:51:13 PM
Quote from: Tigidal on September 19, 2007, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: Marquette84 on September 18, 2007, 08:39:22 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on September 18, 2007, 07:57:12 AM
So sad.  I can only guess it's a deal where fame and fortune ruined love.  Hope the rumor isn't true.

I'm not optimistic. 

His house was on the market earlier this year:
http://whheels.luxist.com/2007/04/08/dwayne-wades-house-estate-of-the-day/ (http://whheels.luxist.com/2007/04/08/dwayne-wades-house-estate-of-the-day/)

It might be something as simple as that they outgrew this starter home.  But seems more likely that it represents a division of assets. 

I hope for the best for all involved--especially the kids.

I never thought Wade as the type, as he's usually portrayed as the shy humble one, but talk about tacky...

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.luxist.com/media/2007/04/wade18.jpg)


But at least he had MU represented in the kid's room.. (http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.luxist.com/media/2007/04/wade14.jpg)

I wonder if Mrs. FryBoy will let me paint a chiseled version of myself in our entryway???That would be hott.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: 🏀 on September 19, 2007, 11:50:02 PM
Can I get a chiseled version of FryBoy in my dorm?
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: spiral97 on September 20, 2007, 09:34:47 AM
ok - that's almost as bad as zach saying he has a list of guys he'd be interested in if he was interested in guys.....
Title: Chiseled and Fryboy?
Post by: 4everwarriors on September 20, 2007, 05:20:06 PM
is more like Pillsbury and doughboy.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Dish on September 21, 2007, 09:04:27 AM
Even though it's Wade involved in this, I'm not too surprised.

As some know on here, I've worked in the Chicago Bulls and Chicago Bears front offices. While each individual marriage is obviously it's own and effected by careers, NBA players were far and away worse the NFL players (at least in Chicago) when it comes to "messing around". Not that this has anything to do with Wade in particular, but here's a pretty good story.

We were courting a decent free agent in summer 2000. This player was married and in the league for a few years at that point. He was known as a good guy within the league, and he was coming to Chicago for a visit. He came to Chicago by himself without his wife, and we picked him up from the airport mid-afternoon. After touring the Berto Center, we brought him to his hotel downtown. At around 8:00 pm, we went to pick him up in his room to take him out that night, and as he was almost done dressing, out comes a woman (not his wife) out of his bathroom, clad only in a towel.

When we were going to dinner at Gibson's that night, walking down Rush, someone from our front office noticed some nice looking young women and said "you know, one of the benefits of Chicago is our fine looking women", and NBA player responded "nah, I don't do that, I'm married."

Maybe the woman coming out of his bathroom was his sister or just someone in dire need of a shower. NBA player never did end up signing with us, and to my knowledge, is still married.

Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 01, 2007, 11:45:39 PM
Any new news on Wade?

Rumors have Gabrielle Union

(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Profiles/20061007/244.union.gabrielle.100606.jpg)

and the Destiny's Child singer, Kelly Rowland,

(http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/bands/r/rowland_kelly/a_z/281x211.jpg)

romantically linked to DWade.

Haven't heard a lot recently though. Anyone have any news?
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: muwarrior87 on October 01, 2007, 11:51:30 PM
why are you even bringing this up again?!?
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Schoolyard on October 02, 2007, 09:42:40 PM
Think there is any chance we'll have a Gabby Union or Kelly Rowland bobblehead game?  I mean if they're now a part of the MU family we should at least be able to distribute their bobbleheads...could make the Utah Valley State game a little more profitable at the gate.
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: The Lens on October 05, 2007, 08:56:55 AM
Our boy's name pops up again in the NY Daily News

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/r_m/2007/10/05/2007-10-05_rosie_odonnell_barbara_walters_fired_me_.html
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: Avenue Commons on October 05, 2007, 09:26:50 AM
I meant to make this request before, but I didn't want to "bump" this thread back to the top and was hoping it would go away. But since it's been brought back, I'd like to request that the moderators delete this thread. I know it is tangentially related to Marquette basketball being that Dwyane Wade is involved, but I've always liked to think that Marquette's online community was a little bit better than the typical rumor-mongering message board fans. To me, having Dwyane Wade parade around with some B-list starlet while still technically married is a little embarassing. I think it is fair to say he led us to believe we could expect more from him.

Anyone join in my motion to delete this thread?
Title: Re: Dwade Divorce?
Post by: spiral97 on October 05, 2007, 09:40:30 AM
Agreed.  Locking the thread.  Let's let this one play out instead of endlessly speculating.
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