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Title: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 04:26:59 PM
Some info to get started with.

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Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
Illinois message board game thread:
http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=19729

Miami message board game thread:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=13&f=2929&t=11404405
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 07:39:37 PM
Tip time moved to 8:04.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 08:08:12 PM
Miami up 5-0.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: netty24 on March 24, 2013, 08:17:09 PM
I think we can matchup decently well on defense, we would just have to wear out larkin and pressure him constantly. On offense, I see Otule and Gardner having a lot of trouble scoring with their length and size, so the scoring load would fall on blue, wilson, junior, and lockett. Thats assuming they win of course, which i think they should have no problem doing against this streaky Illinois team. 
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 08:17:14 PM
Miami started out on fire.  Now neither team can make a shot.

7-2.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 08:18:39 PM
7-7    This is an ugly game.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 08:19:10 PM
Do both teams live and die by the three?
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: netty24 on March 24, 2013, 08:20:07 PM
Do both teams live and die by the three?

Illinois definitely does, not sure yet about Miami.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 08:20:19 PM
12 combined three point attempts in under 8 minutes and they've made 3.

They just keep jacking it up.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Mu2323 on March 24, 2013, 08:21:14 PM
Wtf is with the connection? Anyone else's tv keep getting choppy
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 08:21:43 PM
3PT

UofI:  4/8
UM:    2/8
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 08:22:39 PM
Hopefully Illinois can blow their three point load tonight and go cold on Thursday.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: MUEng92 on March 24, 2013, 08:23:13 PM
1) why is Gardner playing for Miami?
2) why does Illinois rim sound like an aluminum can when they hit it?
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: netty24 on March 24, 2013, 08:24:53 PM
Fun game to watch thus far, neither team really scares me as a potential matchup.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: real chili 83 on March 24, 2013, 08:25:11 PM
Miami does not scare me.

Bring em on.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on March 24, 2013, 08:26:21 PM
1) why is Gardner playing for Miami?
2) why does Illinois rim sound like an aluminum can when they hit it?
can you imagine that matchup?  DG is clearly superior skills wise.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2013, 08:29:14 PM
Anyone know if MU is down in Austin scoutin' this game in person?
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: netty24 on March 24, 2013, 08:30:02 PM
Larkin seems to be bothered by pressure/double teams, something i am sure he will see if they advance.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on March 24, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
I don't know anything about it but I'd imagine they would... Probably Chew & Wainwright each scouting each team?
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2013, 08:33:33 PM
I'm not down with this neon shoe color thing.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 08:34:00 PM
Is there anything more than can be learned being there instead of watching on tv?
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Daniel on March 24, 2013, 08:36:10 PM
Is there anything more than can be learned being there instead of watching on tv?

Yes. Buzz said before that you can hear the coaches and what they are yelling or instructing etc.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 08:37:36 PM
Ah gotcha.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: DCWarriors04 on March 24, 2013, 08:43:37 PM
Is Miami a good 3 pt shooting team...or are they just on fire right now.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: real chili 83 on March 24, 2013, 08:44:11 PM
Jerry and Brad took a flight to Texas.

Had dinner at Buzz's mom's house first.

You bet yer ar$e they are there.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: muguru on March 24, 2013, 08:44:46 PM
I'd put Vander on Larkin. His size will bother him.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: chapman on March 24, 2013, 08:45:37 PM
Jerry and Brad took a flight to Texas.

Had dinner at Buzz's mom's house first.

You bet yer ar$e they are there.

Seriously?  That's great.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: MURFC on March 24, 2013, 08:47:56 PM
Is it me or is this a really boring game?  Plus these highlighter colors are really annoying.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Jackson_Downer on March 24, 2013, 08:48:57 PM
Is it me or is this a really boring game?  Plus these highlighter colors are really annoying.

Well, we are a little spoiled this year.

Illinois seems very streaky.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2013, 08:49:46 PM
Jerry and Brad took a flight to Texas.

Had dinner at Buzz's mom's house first.

You bet yer ar$e they are there.

Do they get to go back to the hotel or flying back right after the game?
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: MURFC on March 24, 2013, 08:52:34 PM
Well, we are a little spoiled this year.

Illinois seems very streaky.
True.  However, I haven't been very impressed by either team thus far.  We'll see what the second half looks like....
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2013, 08:55:24 PM
Paul can be a load. Very quick
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 24, 2013, 08:56:16 PM
Paul can be a load. Very quick

Yet, like Clarke, all right handed.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2013, 08:59:14 PM
Bigger and stronger
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: T-Bone on March 24, 2013, 08:59:45 PM
Do they get to go back to the hotel or flying back right after the game?

I think they have a steak at Yellow Rose after the game.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: GGGG on March 24, 2013, 09:00:55 PM
Bigger and stronger


But with no inside game to counteract their perimeter game.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: mu03eng on March 24, 2013, 09:03:36 PM
Yet, like Clarke, all right handed.

Most underrated improvement in Vander's game, the ability to finish with his left.  Game winner against Davidson was succesful because they designed it against tendency and got Cohen leaning left assuming Vander would go to his right, not left.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Slim on March 24, 2013, 09:12:23 PM
It won't be hard to make more free throws than the opposition attempts.

Half time: no free throws made yet.

They are in for a rude awakening.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Norm on March 24, 2013, 09:21:45 PM
Junior is going to have a tough time guarding either Paul or Larkin - not a good match up in the point guard area against either team.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 24, 2013, 09:34:16 PM
Junior is going to have a tough time guarding either Paul or Larkin - not a good match up in the point guard area against either team.

Abrams does a heavy bulk of the point duties. That's who junior would guard. Vander and Trent would take the Paul/Richardson combo
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 24, 2013, 09:40:49 PM
Don't forget  DWill will be on lockdown mode for part of the game.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on March 24, 2013, 09:42:06 PM
Pulling for Illinois for their shallow bench... We've got to just wear them out they only play 7 deep
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 24, 2013, 09:43:01 PM
Read today that Larkin was originally a DePaul commit. Larkin followed Purnell who recruited him at Clemson. Larkin even took some summer classes before bailing for Miami.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on March 24, 2013, 09:47:27 PM
Read today that Larkin was originally a DePaul commit. Larkin followed Purnell who recruited him at Clemson. Larkin even took some summer classes before bailing for Miami.

That's true, and understandably they still talk about what a huge set-back that was.

Miami just attacks the glass- bodies flying.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: muguru on March 24, 2013, 09:48:26 PM
Miami is soft...the ACC isn't exactly known for it's physicality. That be in for a rude awakening vs. MU.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Slim on March 24, 2013, 09:49:58 PM
Pulling for Illinois for their shallow bench... We've got to just wear them out they only play 7 deep

I see that Shaw kid that we recruited so hard (until Buzz cooled on him) who selected IL has not broken into the rotation. I wonder what the problem is.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on March 24, 2013, 09:51:19 PM
And is that right- those were the first two free throw attempts by the Illini w 10 minutes left in second half?  How is that possible with Paul?
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: muguru on March 24, 2013, 09:58:04 PM
I didn't see the game tonight to say this, but tonight just confirms, what was all the fuss over Miami?? They just don't scare me. MU would drive to the hole at will against them.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Norm on March 24, 2013, 09:58:38 PM
I can't tell by watching this game who I would prefer MU to play on Thursday - I think MU will have its hands full with both teams.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 09:58:43 PM
I didn't see the game tonight to say this, but tonight just confirms, what was all the fuss over Miami?? They just don't scare me. MU would drive to the hole at will against them.

They do have some shot blockers.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Marquette Gyros on March 24, 2013, 09:58:50 PM
How dirty is Paul?  First the flapping arm BS at the free throw line, then the worst flop attempt I've ever seen...
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on March 24, 2013, 09:59:25 PM
Does Illinois look pretty long to you? Wonder if that would cause us much problems
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: MUSF on March 24, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Junior is going to have a tough time guarding either Paul or Larkin - not a good match up in the point guard area against either team.

Derrick Wilson
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: DegenerateDish on March 24, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
Illini and especially Paul are so streaky. Some huge wins this year, some baffling loses. Can they hang on? Canes unraveling a bit here late.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 24, 2013, 10:03:57 PM
Everyone of those Paul highlights with the drive to the hoop with the right hand.  B1G teams took that away...Miami not prepared.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 24, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
From watching Illinois al year long heres what I see. Everybody knows about Paul, hes a better shooting Vander. DJ Richardson has probably gotten worse since his freshman year but hes still a damn good shooter, put Trent on him. Next Abrams is a solid PG has the ability to shoot the ball also. Egwu is a tremendous shot blocker and rebounder and pretty good at putbacks. Has a decent mid-range game. Griffey is a great shooter, not good on D and not a good rebounder. They usually only play two guys off the bench. McLaren. Not an offensive threat whatsoever and Bertrand is a pure scorer when hes on. He can score many different ways.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: jeffreyweee on March 24, 2013, 10:06:15 PM
I'd prefer Illinois because Buzz has a great treat record of taking away a teams best option or two and having the rest of the team try to beat you. I think Miami has more scorers.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: MUSF on March 24, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
I won't make any bold predictions just yet, but I will say that I am much more confident playing the Miami v. Illinois winner than I would be if we were playing the Duke v. Creighton winner.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Markusquette on March 24, 2013, 10:07:28 PM
Hope Illinois can pull this out.  Damn Larkin and his big 3.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 10:07:34 PM
Miami has more size too.  I don't know if I like that.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on March 24, 2013, 10:08:01 PM
I'd prefer Illinois because Buzz has a great treat record of taking away a teams best option or two and having the rest of the team try to beat you. I think Miami has more scorers.
yep
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 10:08:58 PM
Awful call.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 10:09:11 PM
Awful awful call.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on March 24, 2013, 10:09:25 PM
Wow. TERRIBLE call.  :o
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on March 24, 2013, 10:09:45 PM
That's a game changer
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Oldgym on March 24, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
Wow.  Not reviewable.  You can review a flagrant one that occurred 20 seconds before a clock stoppage, but not this.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 24, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
Officials have had a horrible tournament.  
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: DegenerateDish on March 24, 2013, 10:11:08 PM
How does the baseline ref not make that call or over rule the sideline official? There's no way the sideline official could make that call.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: MUSF on March 24, 2013, 10:12:03 PM
Ok, I will make one prediction. This officiating crew will not be working the final four.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 24, 2013, 10:13:06 PM
Surprise this was not posted ... They ran a graphic that Illinois has had at least 1 player from Peoria for the last 20 straight years.  I don't think MU can say that about Milwaukee!

Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: DegenerateDish on March 24, 2013, 10:13:34 PM
Huge eff up by Illinois there. Have to foul Johnson, good god.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2013, 10:13:48 PM
Surprise this was not posted ... They ran a graphic that Illinois has had at least 1 player from Peoria for the last 20 straight years.  I don't think MU can say that about Milwaukee!



For a long time they said that about Chicago.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on March 24, 2013, 10:16:04 PM
For a long time they said that about Chicago.
love that we are building consistency in Milwaukee, Chicago and Madison... Would be huge to own those schools
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: chapman on March 24, 2013, 10:16:54 PM
Miami it is.  

I believe that we will win.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: DegenerateDish on March 24, 2013, 10:17:12 PM
Surprise this was not posted ... They ran a graphic that Illinois has had at least 1 player from Peoria for the last 20 straight years.  I don't think MU can say that about Milwaukee!



Wayne McClain had about 95% to do with that. He went with Weber to Manhattan.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: DegenerateDish on March 24, 2013, 10:18:33 PM
Miami's going to be a tough, tough out.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on March 24, 2013, 10:19:14 PM
Larranaga sounds like George Bluth
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: MUfan12 on March 24, 2013, 10:19:33 PM
I really think the key will be trying to contain Larkin. He makes everything go. Gonna have to give him some different looks. Should be a good game.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 24, 2013, 10:19:41 PM
Well if Miami plays a game like they did against Wake Forest, I like our chances.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 24, 2013, 10:19:54 PM
Huge eff up by Illinois there. Have to foul Johnson, good god.

Illinois has a lot of talent, but they don't play very smart.

Miami is a tough match-up for MU. That hasn't prevented MU from winning games in the past though. Thursday can't come fast enough!

Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on March 24, 2013, 10:21:27 PM
Miami it is.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: jeffreyweee on March 24, 2013, 10:22:14 PM
Miami seems just happy to be in the S16, whereas Marquette sounds like they've got more business to take care of. I like our chances Thursday.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Markusquette on March 24, 2013, 10:22:55 PM
I like that Larkin is only 5'11.  Yeah, he's great, but Paul is damn good too.  And larger.  I think we have some beef up front too.  Kadji is pretty big but didn't play that well.  I don't know who their fat dude is but Gardner can take him.  Their wings will be tough to defend but out of the last two sweet sixteens this is definitely our best shot right now.  

UNC had a huge advantage inside with Zeller and Henson.  Florida had size and toughness down low mixed with shooting.  Miami is athletic, can run and shoot pretty well but doesn't have any overwhelming advantages.  Not to mention the experience factor too.  If any year is ours, this is it. 
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Norm on March 24, 2013, 10:23:13 PM
Miami's going to be a tough, tough out.
Yeah, I think so too. Their bigs are going to give us fits and D Wilson will have to play a lot to help contain Larkin if Jr can't stay with him.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2013, 10:23:48 PM
Gotta kick some motherf*ckin' Hurricane ass.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: DegenerateDish on March 24, 2013, 10:26:32 PM
Have to remember tonight Miami won almost inspite of Scott. He was way off his game tonight (maybe it was his eye), they are so difficult to contain. I'd feel better if Wilson or Junior were more athletic. Will be tougher for MU to pressure the backcourt, wouldn't be shocked to see MU try some zone.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: jeffreyweee on March 24, 2013, 10:27:33 PM
Illinois stayed in the game with sheer will power and toughness. If they think Illinois plays physical they're in for a rude awakening against Marquette. I'm confident.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: RideMyBuycks on March 24, 2013, 10:27:39 PM
There's no chance we play in the afternoon is there? Are they all evening games?
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: muguru on March 24, 2013, 10:31:02 PM
There's no chance we play in the afternoon is there? Are they all evening games?

All evening games. Earliest start will be 6:00 CDT
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on March 24, 2013, 10:33:56 PM
All the Illini fans on ESPN wanting us to win.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: RideMyBuycks on March 24, 2013, 10:34:20 PM
All evening games. Earliest start will be 6:00 CDT

I guess I'll have to go to work on Thursday then :/
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: MU82 on March 24, 2013, 10:48:09 PM
Part of me -- the part who has a lot of Illiniwek friends and would have hated losing to them in the Sweet 16 -- is glad Illinois lost.

The other part of me is scared to death of Miami ... but I think we all saw that the Hurricanes ain't invincible, either. Nobody in this tournament field is, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Miami vs. Illinois
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 24, 2013, 10:50:32 PM
Reggie Johnson vs. Ox will be AWESOME to watch they are both listed around 290 pounds. What a matchup that will be. Having Otule switch in with Ox will be huge for us.

Junior vs. Shane will be a mismatch. Shane is too good and too fast. Derrick might be looking at extended minutes yet again

I think going Zone will be a good move, Buzz has a week to prepare.

I agree 100% with the idea that this is our best shot for the elite 8...Thursday can't come soon enough