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Title: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: WarriorHal on March 23, 2013, 01:56:26 PM
7:45 PM   Open   Current   Betting Trends
Team   SPR   O/U   SPR   O/U   Side   ML   O/U
BUTLER   +2   126   +1.5   127   59%   n/a   72%
MARQET   -2       -1.5       41%   n/a   28%


Can somebody with experience in this area please translate all of this into understandable, simple English?

It's from vegasinsider.com
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 23, 2013, 01:58:20 PM
Butler is favored by 1.5.

Warriors by 1.5
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: NotAnAlum on March 23, 2013, 02:00:09 PM
The line started at MU as a 2 point favorite to win but has now moved to 1.5.  This indicates that at the original line more people were betting Butler.  The combined points for the final score is expected to be 126.
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: Litehouse on March 23, 2013, 02:00:58 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 23, 2013, 01:58:20 PM
Butler is favored by 1.5.

It's Warriors by 1.5
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: esotericmindguy on March 23, 2013, 02:06:43 PM
Opened at 2.5. Takes a lot of dough to move it a point.
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 23, 2013, 02:10:48 PM
- means you are favored.

You subtract points from the favored team in order to make both scores equal.
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: WarriorHal on March 23, 2013, 02:22:08 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 23, 2013, 02:10:48 PM
- means you are favored.

You subtract points from the favored team in order to make both scores equal.

I finally understand -- it's exactly the opposite of what I thought :)
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2013, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 23, 2013, 01:58:20 PM
Butler is favored by 1.5.

Opposite.  MU favored.  - = giving points
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 23, 2013, 04:54:44 PM
-2 means it would be even if Marquette gave away 2 points to Butler.

+2 means Butler would need 2 free points for it to be even.

Ergo, Marquette is a "two point favorite."

Looks like that was where the lined opened. Marquette is now a 1.5 point favorite.

I believe this means lots of money on Butler? Oddsmakers are trying to draw in more betters on Butler because they believe MQ will win?
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: NotAnAlum on March 23, 2013, 05:13:08 PM
Actually they don't "beleive" anything.  They just want the money to balance so if too much is going to Butler they move the line to draw more to MU. 
What I've heard is that the smart money on College BBall tends to come in at the very end close to tip.  All this means up till now is that the average bet-er thinks that taking Butler and the points is a good bet and the average bet-er is wrong more than they are right.
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on March 23, 2013, 05:34:03 PM
Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 23, 2013, 05:13:08 PM
Actually they don't "beleive" anything.  They just want the money to balance so if too much is going to Butler they move the line to draw more to MU. 
What I've heard is that the smart money on College BBall tends to come in at the very end close to tip.  All this means up till now is that the average bet-er thinks that taking Butler and the points is a good bet and the average bet-er is wrong more than they are right.

That is true to a point, but I imagine astute bettors recognize good value when they see it, even if it's early in the week.
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 23, 2013, 06:26:30 PM
A kingdom wasn't built in the Nevada desert because the oddsmakers are often wrong.
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 23, 2013, 06:54:40 PM
Jumped on MU -1.5.

Don't make me regret it Marquette.
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2013, 07:02:20 PM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 23, 2013, 06:26:30 PM
A kingdom wasn't built in the Nevada desert because the oddsmakers are often wrong.


The house rarely loses.  I would guess that Vegas makes most of their money in the gambling area not on the sports books.
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: brewcity77 on March 23, 2013, 09:33:47 PM
Opening line was right. Vegas is making a lot on those early push bets.
Title: Re: The Vegas Line on Butler vs. MU
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 23, 2013, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 23, 2013, 06:54:40 PM
Jumped on MU -1.5.

Don't make me regret it Marquette.

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