**Davante really hurt us with his two dumb fouls in the first half. Lost all inside presence after that.
**I have no flippin' clue why Steve Taylor doesn't play more. None.
**Too much Mayo, he simply isn't doing anything right now on either side of the floor...and frankly after playing well for the last few games, Lockett just had a stinker.
**Steve Taylor needs to play more.
**Turnovers....way too many turnovers. Honestly that is going to be how this team loses in the tournament.
**ND just runs pick and rolls over and over and over, and we rarely made adjustments.
Oh well. Sweet 16 would be a good goal for this team. #freestevetaylor
You forgot Jim Burr
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 10:49:39 PM
**Davante really hurt us with his two dumb fouls in the first half. Lost all inside presence after that.
**I have no flippin' clue why Steve Taylor doesn't play more. None.
**Too much Mayo, he simply isn't doing anything right now on either side of the floor...and frankly after playing well for the last few games, Lockett just had a stinker.
**Steve Taylor needs to play more.
**Turnovers....way too many turnovers. Honestly that is going to be how this team loses in the tournament.
**ND just runs pick and rolls over and over and over, and we rarely made adjustments.
Oh well. Sweet 16 would be a good goal for this team. #freestevetaylor
That about sums it up.
Marquette is a better than ND. No doubt about that. Can't double-up a team on TOs and expect to win...especially once Jim Burr turns on you. It's as simple as that.
Quote from: DCWarriors04 on March 14, 2013, 10:52:00 PM
You forgot Jim Burr
Jim Burr is insufferable. But the refs in no way cost MU this game.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 10:53:24 PM
Jim Burr is insufferable. But the refs in no way cost MU this game.
+1. MU could have put this game away in the first half.
Burr absolutely turned in the first half when Buzz was on the court. Yes, ND started hitting shots and yes, MU turned it over. But the way the game was reffed after that point was totally different.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 14, 2013, 10:56:08 PM
Burr absolutely turned in the first half when Buzz was on the court. Yes, ND started hitting shots and yes, MU turned it over. But the way the game was reffed after that point was totally different.
What?
Seriously?
You just acknowleged that ND started hitting shots, and MU turned the ball over, and you are blaming Burr telling Buzz not to run out on the court??
No. That wasn't it.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 10:53:24 PM
Jim Burr is insufferable. But the refs in no way cost MU this game.
The refs definitely did not cost MU the game but did hurt their chances.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 10:58:26 PM
What?
Seriously?
You just acknowleged that ND started hitting shots, and MU turned the ball over, and you are blaming Burr telling Buzz not to run out on the court??
No. That wasn't it.
I never blamed the refs for the loss. I just said that the game was reffed differently after that moment.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 14, 2013, 11:01:06 PM
I never blamed the refs for the loss. I just said that the game was reffed differently after that moment.
Outside of being a bunch of pricks, I don't think the refs called a bad game at all.
We couldn't stop them the last 12 minutes of the game. When we did stop them ND got an offensive board.....just a bad finish.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 11:03:54 PM
Outside of being a bunch of pricks, I don't think the refs called a bad game at all.
Oh. So you didn't watch the game? ;)
Steve can take Anderson, Mayo, and Lockett's minutes. How does he get 8 and those three combine for 51? Since that's a few too many give Jake Thomas a few; he won't do much but he won't constantly lose his man like Anderson or turn it over like Lockett.
Quote from: chapman on March 14, 2013, 11:06:37 PM
Steve can take Anderson, Mayo, and Lockett's minutes. If that's a few too many give Jake Thomas a few; he won't do much but he won't constantly lose his man like Anderson or turn it over like Lockett.
How do you know?
Turnovers hurt in the first half. Offensive glass in the second. Rebound the ball and its a different game.
I was expecting a loss, and they would have gotten their heads handed to them tomorrow, so whatever. Moving on. Does it knock them down a peg as far as seeding goes? Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Doesn't really matter either. The margin between a 1 seed and an 8 seed is smaller than its ever been. You wanna advance, you need to win a game.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 14, 2013, 11:06:09 PM
Oh. So you didn't watch the game? ;)
MU was 7 for 12 at line
ND was 18 for 21 at line
Quote from: marquette09 on March 14, 2013, 11:05:29 PM
We couldn't stop them the last 12 minutes of the game. When we did stop them ND got an offensive board.....just a bad finish.
+1. Down the stretch it was a good look and bucket or miss and offensive board.
Quote from: nyg on March 14, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
MU was 7 for 12 at line
ND was 18 for 21 at line
At least 8 to 10 of ND's free throws came when MU started fouling. FTs don't tell the story in this case.
Quote from: nyg on March 14, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
MU was 7 for 12 at line
ND was 18 for 21 at line
ND attacked the lane more than we did. I don;t think officials were a big factor at all. A call here or call there may have been wrong, but if you were officiating that game you would have had enough of our whining too. Counter-productive if you ask me.
Quote from: nyg on March 14, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
MU was 7 for 12 at line
ND was 18 for 21 at line
Considering how they played, that was a pretty good ratio even considering all the junk free throws that ND got at the end.
Connaughton was 6-10 from the field with all 6-10 from the perimeter. And he was guarded on how many of those 10? It ain't rocket science.
#FreeSteveTaylor
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 11:03:54 PM
Outside of being a bunch of pricks, I don't think the refs called a bad game at all.
I'm not saying that the refs cost us the game, that's not true, but that was one of the worst officiated games I have watched all year.
So either you didn't watch the game, your blind or you just like to antagonize people on here.
Quote from: nyg on March 14, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
MU was 7 for 12 at line
ND was 18 for 21 at line
Yep, and? As stated earlier MU was outworked tonight. MU just didn't play very well, and ND did.
Quote from: forgetful on March 14, 2013, 11:12:48 PM
I'm not saying that the refs cost us the game, that's not true, but that was one of the worst officiated games I have watched all year.
So either you didn't watch the game, your blind or you just like to antagonize people on here.
No. I just know basketball and you apparently don't.
Seriously, it was an evenly called game with no serious misses that I recall. Minor things here and there, but that's about it.
So tired of the "ref" excuse by people here.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 10:49:39 PM
**Davante really hurt us with his two dumb fouls in the first half. Lost all inside presence after that.
**I have no flippin' clue why Steve Taylor doesn't play more. None.
**Too much Mayo, he simply isn't doing anything right now on either side of the floor...and frankly after playing well for the last few games, Lockett just had a stinker.
**Steve Taylor needs to play more.
**Turnovers....way too many turnovers. Honestly that is going to be how this team loses in the tournament.
**ND just runs pick and rolls over and over and over, and we rarely made adjustments.
Oh well. Sweet 16 would be a good goal for this team. #freestevetaylor
Agree on all but one point. I thought Lockett played decently. He was all over the offensive glass at least.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 14, 2013, 11:13:13 PM
Yep, and? As stated earlier MU was outworked tonight. MU just didn't play very well, and ND did.
+1 million.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 14, 2013, 11:11:38 PM
Connaughton was 6-10 from the field with all 6-10 from the perimeter. And he was guarded on how many of those 10? It ain't rocket science.
#FreeSteveTaylor
+2 million.
Quote from: PTM on March 14, 2013, 10:54:42 PM
+1. MU could have put this game away in the first half.
Can we please cease with the 'refs don't effect the outcome of a game' auto response? It's wrong and restricts analysis.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 11:14:40 PM
No. I just know basketball and you apparently don't.
Seriously, it was an evenly called game with no serious misses that I recall. Minor things here and there, but that's about it.
So tired of the "ref" excuse by people here.
Jay Bilas must not know basketball either.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:16:38 PM
Can we please cease with the 'refs don't effect the outcome of a game' auto response? It's wrong and restricts analysis.
They effect the game, but they aren't causing a team to lose a game.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:16:38 PM
Can we please cease with the 'refs don't effect the outcome of a game' auto response? It's wrong and restricts analysis.
No. I will not cease with it because it simply wasn't the reason. At all.
MU was out-played and out-coached.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:16:38 PM
Can we please cease with the 'refs don't effect the outcome of a game' auto response? It's wrong and restricts analysis.
Of course they can affect the outcome. However, rebound the damn ball, and nobody's talking about refs.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 11:18:30 PM
No. I will not cease with it because it simply wasn't the reason. At all.
MU was out-played and out-coached.
No, you want to claim it had no impact. Which is utter bulls**t.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:16:38 PM
Can we please cease with the 'refs don't effect the outcome of a game' auto response? It's wrong and restricts analysis.
Refs absolutely effect the outcome of games. They didn't tonight. ND could be complaining about 3 of the fouls called on Cooley that were very iffy and limited his minutes.
I think one of the big problems we had was after Gardner and Otule both got 2 fouls we went a long stretch without either of them. One of the nice things about having two centers is that you can play in the first half even if he has 2 fouls. We were awful during the long stretch without Otule/Gardner.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 14, 2013, 11:17:29 PM
Jay Bilas must not know basketball either.
Jay Bilas has been complaining about the rough play for the last two nights...and I don't disagree with him. But that is an issue for another time. As long as they are consistent within a game and don't miss too many calls, refereeing is fair. And it was fair.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 11:14:40 PM
No. I just know basketball and you apparently don't.
Seriously, it was an evenly called game with no serious misses that I recall. Minor things here and there, but that's about it.
So tired of the "ref" excuse by people here.
What about Bilas, does he not know basketball, because he commented a few times about poor officiating.
What about not calling bumps and holds all game at all and then on one possession calling three on MU on one play, including a TO saving whistle on the baseline.
How about Mayo taking a shoulder to the chest and it being an offensive foul (similar play that save on TO for ND earlier was called on MU). Or the three forearms to the face from Sherman to Gardner that went uncalled.
Foul on a screen for Wilson, no call when Juan takes a forearm on a screen.
I said that the refs didn't lose this game for MU, but to pretend that this game was officiated in a balanced consistent fashion is borderline idiotic.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:19:50 PM
No, you want to claim it had no impact. Which is utter bulls**t.
It had no more inordinate outcome than any other game. It would be like saying the wood the floor was made out of had an impact on the game. I mean, it did obviously, but it didn't affect the outcome in any way.
Quote from: forgetful on March 14, 2013, 11:20:42 PM
What about Bilas, does he not know basketball, because he commented a few times about poor officiating.
What about not calling bumps and holds all game at all and then on one possession calling three on MU on one play, including a TO saving whistle on the baseline.
How about Mayo taking a shoulder to the chest and it being an offensive foul (similar play that save on TO for ND earlier was called on MU). Or the three forearms to the face from Sherman to Gardner that went uncalled.
Foul on a screen for Wilson, no call when Juan takes a forearm on a screen.
I said that the refs didn't lose this game for MU, but to pretend that this game was officiated in a balanced consistent fashion is borderline idiotic.
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Yeah, and Notre Dame couldn't complain about any calls either. Seriously, take off your blue and gold glasses for once.
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Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 14, 2013, 11:18:42 PM
Of course they can affect the outcome. However, rebound the damn ball, and nobody's talking about refs.
So we should get every rebound? We won the rebounding battle! Guess you didn't see our guys getting pushed inside every time
Quote from: forgetful on March 14, 2013, 11:20:42 PM
I said that the refs didn't lose this game for MU, but to pretend that this game was officiated in a balanced consistent fashion is borderline idiotic.
Do you watch us play? We hack every guy who passes through the lane. We are a much more physical defensive team than is ND. We constantly flail our arms and pretend to be fouled, and tonight we added constant whining to our repertoire. Refs weren't buying.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 11:21:46 PM
It had no more inordinate outcome than any other game. It would be like saying the wood the floor was made out of had an impact on the game. I mean, it did obviously, but it didn't affect the outcome in any way.
We all know that you reffed some HS games so you consider yourself an expert on officiating and always take the refs' side but come on! What an awful analogy. There were some blatantly terrible calls in this game that went against MU and swung the momentum.
The Bilas argument is completely different. Bilas wants the BE called cleaner all together, he's been saying that all year. He's right, hopefully that's a focus of the NBE.
It's so simple: GUARD THE THREE. some might say it's easier said than done, but honestly, it's not. Connaughtan is never going to shoot inside the arc. Stay put for Christ sake. It's not rocket science. They weren't going to beat you inside the arc. It's beyond infuriating. We may be a 5 seed now, but luckily it doesn't really matter.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 11:22:48 PM
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Yeah, and Notre Dame couldn't complain about any calls either. Seriously, take off your blue and gold glasses for once.
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Reading comprehension is fundamental. I said they didn't cause MU to lose the game. I brought up MU examples because it is more likely for people to remember those plays. I will say that the balance of bad calls skewed strongly in ND's favor.
Fact of the matter is if we are handing out grades for officiating, they failed. If we are handing out grades for in game performances, we failed. Simple as that.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 14, 2013, 11:25:18 PM
We all know that you reffed some HS games so you consider yourself an expert on officiating and always take the refs' side but come on! What an awful analogy. There were some blatantly terrible calls in this game that went against MU and swung the momentum.
Couple benefited MU...couple benefited ND....pretty much evened out at the end.
Damn right Steve Taylor should play more.
It's an absolute joke to suggest the refs had much to do with this outcome.
I'm yelling at the TV for MU to stop leaving Connaughton wide open. I'm begging our guys to stop taking stupid shots and to stop throwing the ball away.
We truly earned this loss.
If DG doesn't pick up two stupid fouls in the first, no one is talking about the refs.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:23:53 PM
So we should get every rebound? We won the rebounding battle! Guess you didn't see our guys getting pushed inside every time
ND got an offensive rebound on four consecutive possessions and scored on every one ) including the three pointer that ended the game (purely from memory, haven't looked up if that's exactly now it went) So no, you don't have to get every rebound, but you get even two of those, and the outcomes probably different.
Quote from: PTM on March 14, 2013, 11:31:10 PM
If DG doesn't pick up two stupid fouls in the first, no one is talking about the refs.
And who called those stupid fouls?
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:32:08 PM
And who called those stupid fouls?
The refs...because they were doing their job. Both were well deserved.
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 14, 2013, 11:29:32 PM
Damn right Steve Taylor should play more.
I was watching this game without volume and wondered if Taylor got hurt or something. I usually defend Buzz's subbing and I usually try to get Scoopers to keep things in perspective when it comes to Taylor (who ISN'T the next Mo Lucas). However, I, too, wondered where he was tonight and why Anderson was getting so much PT. Anderson lost Connaughton several times, so it's not as if he was D-ing up wonderfully.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:32:08 PM
And who called those stupid fouls?
The stupid, obvious fouls made by DG? They were correctly called by the officiating crew.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:32:08 PM
And who called those stupid fouls?
Holy crap, dude. You serious with this stuff?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 11:33:06 PM
The refs...because they were doing their job. Both were well deserved.
Agreed there, they were both obvious fouls. Otule's second however was not a foul. ( I forget what his first was).
Which Scooper got tossed at the game by Driscoll? ;D
Why didn't the second coming of Maurice Lucas play in the second half?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 11:28:09 PM
Couple benefited MU...couple benefited ND....pretty much evened out at the end.
Please. What unfair calls benefited MU? ND got away pushing players inside all night and we got called with every physical play inside...not to mention phantom calls that got them back in the game in 1st half. There was a clear difference in what got called on the inside depending on what color jersey was in the lane.
Want to know why we didn't get inside in the 2nd half when it seemed like we needed to? The answer was clear.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 14, 2013, 11:35:42 PM
Which Scooper got tossed at the game by Driscoll? ;D
Only keefe could afford tickets like that, just ask him
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 14, 2013, 11:33:51 PM
Holy crap, dude. You serious with this stuff?
You think Davante's second foul was legit? HA!
Quote from: PTM on March 14, 2013, 11:36:38 PM
Only keefe could afford tickets like that, just ask him
Don't let BlueManGroup overhear you saying that. He might send daddy after you!
Quote from: RichardShaw on March 14, 2013, 11:26:03 PM
It's so simple: GUARD THE THREE. some might say it's easier said than done, but honestly, it's not. Connaughtan is never going to shoot inside the arc. Stay put for Christ sake. It's not rocket science. They weren't going to beat you inside the arc. It's beyond infuriating. We may be a 5 seed now, but luckily it doesn't really matter.
Very fundamental mistakes too. Right after Jamil's three to make it 62-57, ND sets a screen at the top of the key and Counaughton flares to the right wing and Juan goes under the screen. Why would he do that? Why was Juan even covering him in the first place? Just bad all around..I expected more from Buzz tonight. He even said last night when they interviewed him the Counaughton was going to be one of their focuses.
Some of his threes were due to a lack of boxing out and not getting the defensive rebound though. Those are the real killers.
Quote from: elephantraker on March 14, 2013, 11:35:57 PM
Why didn't the second coming of Maurice Lucas play in the second half?
Maurice Lucas? Really?
Come on...aren't you giving Maurice too much credit with that comparison?
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:37:15 PM
You think Davante's second foul was legit? HA!
Yeah, you can't plow over a guy guarding you. Both refs called it immediately and the announcers agreed with it.
That's enough of this nonsense. I need to get to bed.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:37:15 PM
You think Davante's second foul was legit? HA!
Not even a question. Gonna be called every time.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 11:39:06 PM
Yeah, you can't plow over a guy guarding you. Both refs called it immediately and the announcers agreed with it.
That's enough of this nonsense. I need to get to bed.
Don't bring the announcers into this. He put his butt out and Cooley fell on the floor "like" he got plowed. But he didn't. He's just skinny and weak and the refs weren't letting Davante use his weight and size to dominate - which is fair. I never really even understood what happened w/ his 3rd foul that half? We were on offense and suddenly they just called something on him.
Be consistent refs. Which they never are and they should not get away with it as much as we let them.
Taylor needs to play more. Take some mins from Lockett and Mayo and go big if you have to. He would have helped on the glass in the second half.
On the refs: You can't look at a foul count to judge consistency. It was called even, foul wise. But what constituted a foul changed in the second half, with about 8 minutes left. The game had a great flow, and the refs took over with three fouls in 20 seconds. That crap drives me nuts. It's tough to adjust to them 30+ minutes into the game.
Either let them play rugby, or call it tight. Going back and forth is a joke, and kills the game.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 14, 2013, 11:45:59 PM
Taylor needs to play more. Take some mins from Lockett and Mayo and go big if you have to. He would have helped on the glass in the second half.
On the refs: You can't look at a foul count to judge consistency. It was called even, foul wise. But what constituted a foul changed in the second half, with about 8 minutes left. The game had a great flow, and the refs took over with three fouls in 20 seconds. That crap drives me nuts. It's tough to adjust to them 30+ minutes into the game.
Either let them play rugby, or call it tight. Going back and forth is a joke, and kills the game.
God. Please.
And agree on the refs. They change their rules constantly and never get called for it. It allowed ND to shut us down late second half and skewed with rhythm in the second. They have a considerable impact in every single game we play. The worst way to judge reffing is by fouls count....cause its all about the fouls they don;t call - this is how KU fans trick themselves into believing they don't receive a unbalanced amount of beneficial calls.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 14, 2013, 11:11:38 PM
Connaughton was 6-10 from the field with all 6-10 from the perimeter. And he was guarded on how many of those 10? It ain't rocket science.
#FreeSteveTaylor
This. I was at the game, and I just couldn't believe how the team didn't mark Connaughton at all. Mayo seemed to his man, but nobody was close most of the time. It was frustrating.
That call on Vander in the 2nd blew my mind. How can you not call contact under the boards but call that?
Then the travel on Sherman. They showed the replay twice. Both times you can see he picked up the pivot.
MU didn't go inside as much as they wanted. That was part of the problem, no doubt.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2013, 11:22:48 PM
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Yeah, and Notre Dame couldn't complain about any calls either. Seriously, take off your blue and gold glasses for once.
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You're right, many have blue and gold glasses here when it comes to the refs. You wear black and white striped ones. The ones who always complain after a loss about the refs are usually wrong. You, who always defend them are less often, but nonetheless sometimes, wrong.
I was working so I caught the game in glimpses so I can't complain about the officials, but we seemed satisfied in not slitting their throats Jae Crowder style in the first half and they chipped away and once we lost the lead we went flat. Nobody to blame, but ourselves. I'll suffer through it and watch it again tomorrow to see what I really missed. We are all just hurting because we hate going down to the South Bend Scum Sucking Sphincters (trademark pending)
Anyone who thinks the refs were the main reason for this loss is kidding themselves. Love this squad and what they've been able to accomplish, but this team has some shortcomings.
Quote from: TJ on March 14, 2013, 11:15:16 PM
Agree on all but one point. I thought Lockett played decently. He was all over the offensive glass at least.
What????
I thought that was the worst game Lockett had as a Warrior. Haven't seen his stat line yet, but his play was brutal.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2013, 11:32:08 PM
And who called those stupid fouls?
You could see DG's second foul coming from the other end of the court. Stupid, stupid foul that should have been called. It did change up the game, but you cannot overlook the number of turnovers and failed 3 point defense. This was a clear demonstration of how we loose. Poor ball control, sloppy defense.
"Equal crappy calls on both teams" should not be the barometer for a evenly/well called game.
I thought the ratio of (over-the-back/reach in calls)/(turnovers while trying to get a paint touch) was somewhere close to 0 in the first half. If that number is just a little higher we do a better job preventing them from getting back into that game.
Quote from: TJ on March 14, 2013, 11:15:16 PM
Agree on all but one point. I thought Lockett played decently. He was all over the offensive glass at least.
Except for his team high 5 TO's. He played like crap.
Quote from: MUMonster03 on March 15, 2013, 07:18:29 AM
Except for his team high 5 TO's. He played like crap.
Played 22 minutes. Had 2 points, 2 assists, 6 rebounds and 5 turnovers. Ugh
We thought it would come down to ORB's and turnovers, & it did. Tied at 50 with 7 minutes to play...in the next 3.5 mins ND secures 4 ORBs while MU turns it over 2x.
59-52, game effectively over.
A -7 turnover margin against a team that forces among the least (the least?) in the Big East. 5 for Lockett. Even up 17-4 MU had 5 turnovers to that point ... protect the ball & MU runs away with a W last night.
Add in that Buzz never adjusted to Pat C. Rough night for the coach too.
Why Juan kept going under the screens sent for Connaughton I have no idea. Just terrible. Stick Steve in there to get his long arms in his grill. The constant shuffling of Mayo/D.Wilson/Lockett/Anderson was awful last night.
D.Wilson may play good D, but he kills our offensive flow. Just kills it. Now, in fairness, it didn't help (anyone) in the first half that you had Otule and Ox out for the last 10 minutes. But when he's out there, MU is playing 4 on 5, because unless there's a second or two left on the shot clock, D.Wilson ain't shooting it. MU plays 4 on 5. I can understand him in there on occasion, but when our bigs are out and we need guys that can penetrate and score, he shouldn't be in there.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 15, 2013, 08:19:41 AM
Why Juan kept going under the screens sent for Connaughton I have no idea. Just terrible.
I don't have a problem with Juan starting both halves. He has energy and does some good things out there. But he absolutely should not be in there guarding Connaughton at that point in the game.
Quote from: connie on March 15, 2013, 06:55:37 AM
You could see DG's second foul coming from the other end of the court. Stupid, stupid foul that should have been called. It did change up the game, but you cannot overlook the number of turnovers and failed 3 point defense. This was a clear demonstration of how we loose. Poor ball control, sloppy defense.
Is that at all what I said? Did I excuse the terrible turnovers? No. I am simply sick of the officiating always being automatically removed from every analysis of a game. Officiating in college basketball has become a joke and we pretend like it doesn't impact a game's momentum, strategy, etc at all.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 15, 2013, 08:57:21 AM
Is that at all what I said? Did I excuse the terrible turnovers? No. I am simply sick of the officiating always being automatically removed from every analysis of a game. Officiating in college basketball has become a joke and we pretend like it doesn't impact a game's momentum, strategy, etc at all.
I will agree with you that college basketball officiating needs an overhaul.
Quote from: nyg on March 15, 2013, 07:24:28 AM
Played 22 minutes. Had 2 points, 2 assists, 6 rebounds and 5 turnovers. Ugh
I like what Lockett brings, but last night was just brutal. Unforced turnovers are killers. It's like he starts going then changes his mind and it results in a travel. We had a chance to open up the game big time in first half and we kept giving the ball back to ND. Tough to watch.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 15, 2013, 08:57:21 AM
Is that at all what I said? Did I excuse the terrible turnovers? No. I am simply sick of the officiating always being automatically removed from every analysis of a game. Officiating in college basketball has become a joke and we pretend like it doesn't impact a game's momentum, strategy, etc at all.
My point was that the DG was stupid in picking up his second foul. He got into it with Cooley on the defensive boards and then gave attitude to the refs. Ran down the court to meet Cooley in the lane, and then throws his sizeable rear into Cooley, knocking him back about four feet, right in front of the official under the basket. That type of foul is stupid--on DG. It is always going to be called, particularly given the complaining DG just did on the other end. Blaming this foul on the officials, and the resulting impact on the game, doesn't help your point.
All our mishaps are caused by the MU crowd. For this team, "There's no place like home!". Our team is so co-dependent on home court, they play like a lost D2 team on the road. I would bet if we played the best team in college basketball 3 times at the Al, we would best them 2 out of 3. Our boys need to grow up, block out the crowd, and play ball. I know, easier said than done. But it can be done.
If it's worth anything, at least Junior played a pretty solid game.
For me it was pretty much the terrible rebounding the last 7 minutes of the game that did us in. That Cooley board and kick to Con-man Connaughton at the 3:30 mark was probably the play of the game for them in my eyes. Darn that man!!!
The more Steve Taylor plays, the happier I am.
D. Wilson, to me, is the equivalent of a quarterback who comes in and does nothing but hand the ball off. Just because he doesn't fumble the snap, should we praise him for not having turnovers? I'll say this about him, though: He's usually good for a steal or two a game. Plays good defense. It's just a shame that he has no offensive skills.
To say something positive, I think Jamil is going to be an absolute stud next year. You can tell he's getting his confidence (though that "kiss" after the 3-pointer would've been sweeter if they'd actually been winning.) Raftery and Bilas wouldn't stop saying how he's the most talented player Marquette has. Next year, I think we'll truly see that.
We lost because we didn't make enough baskets.
I know basketball better than you.
And I am better looking too.
ND sucks.
Lockett and Mayo were just plain bad. I wanted more STjr and less Juan, but I wonder if Buzz's reasoning was that STjr doesn't guard the perimeter as well as Juan/Lockett/Mayo (the 3 guys who got torched). Blue, Jamil, Junior, DG all had their moments, but when the two bigs sat in the first half, the momentum was sacrificed and never recovered. I understand Buzz protecting his players. But putting STjr on the low block a la CO or DG was an option that simply wasn't tried and should have been. Also, there have been criticisms of Buzz' substitutions on Thursday. He sat Lockett and Mayo more than he has all year and played Juan next to Jamil more than ever simply because Mayo and Lockett were so bad. He essentially played 6 players the last 10 minutes.