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Title: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 11, 2013, 07:26:53 AM
Why don't they do it with all of the player awards?
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: We R Final Four on March 11, 2013, 07:35:18 AM
"Williams is expected to be named the Big East's coach of the year Tuesday."

This is from Mike Hunt's blog.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: macman320 on March 11, 2013, 08:13:35 AM
The fact that Mr. Michael rarely reports positive news just for the heck of it makes me actually believe this. Unless he's just messing with us all.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: Goose on March 11, 2013, 11:56:58 AM
Buzz flat out deserves it. Best job I have seen at MU in a long time. Especially impressive seeing that read that showed our less than stellar individual stats. This was done with smoke and mirrors.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: jesmu84 on March 11, 2013, 12:03:01 PM
I just don't get the feeling Buzz will take it this year. JT3 or Wright would be my bets.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 11, 2013, 12:14:05 PM
JT3 was picked to finish 5th and has Otto.

Marquette was picked to finish 7th and has one guy on the all Big East second team and one honorable mention.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: CTWarrior on March 11, 2013, 12:26:32 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 11, 2013, 12:14:05 PM
JT3 was picked to finish 5th and has Otto.

Marquette was picked to finish 7th and has one guy on the all Big East second team and one honorable mention.

But JT3 lost his second best guy midway through the season and got better.  I want Buzz to win, but JT3 is not an egregious choice.  I think Wright would be a bad choice over either of them.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: jesmu84 on March 11, 2013, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 11, 2013, 12:14:05 PM
JT3 was picked to finish 5th and has Otto.

Marquette was picked to finish 7th and has one guy on the all Big East second team and one honorable mention.

You don't need to convince me. I think Buzz should get it, without a doubt. I just don't think he will based on media, etc.

Also, MU lost DJO and Crowder, while Gtown lost their top 3 scorers and another player halfway through the season.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: wojosdojo on March 11, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
How many McDonalds All American players does Gtown have compared to us?
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 11, 2013, 02:43:38 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 11, 2013, 07:26:53 AM
Why don't they do it with all of the player awards?

They do it on Tuesday with POY and ROY.

I hope Mick Cronin gets it. Did a masterful job this season.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: MU82 on March 11, 2013, 02:47:37 PM
Quote from: macman320 on March 11, 2013, 08:13:35 AM
The fact that Mr. Michael rarely reports positive news just for the heck of it makes me actually believe this. Unless he's just messing with us all.

Yes, because this is what solid, veteran, legitimate U.S. newspaper journalists do all the time: purposely report something on Monday with the full intent to look foolish on Tuesday.

Jeesh. Even when folks on this board aren't shooting the messenger they're still shooting the messenger.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: downtown85 on March 11, 2013, 02:50:41 PM
Porter for POY and Wooden. Buzz for BE COY. That's fair.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: 🏀 on March 12, 2013, 10:16:45 AM
Twitta tracker


Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria
At 5 p.m. today, the Big East will announce Player, Coach, Rookie & Scholar Athlete of the Year. Georgetown's Otto Porter Jr. will be POY.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: keefe on March 12, 2013, 10:35:56 AM
Quote from: buzzchiapet on March 11, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
How many McDonalds All American players does Gtown have compared to us?

That is a big part of being a coach, actually.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: avid1010 on March 12, 2013, 10:43:30 AM
Quote from: keefe on March 12, 2013, 10:35:56 AM
That is a big part of being a coach, actually.
yeah...take that out and we might as well give it to bo every year (no teal).
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: keefe on March 12, 2013, 10:43:56 AM
Quote from: Goose on March 11, 2013, 11:56:58 AM
Buzz flat out deserves it. Best job I have seen at MU in a long time. Especially impressive seeing that read that showed our less than stellar individual stats. This was done with smoke and mirrors.

And the fact we went 10 deep. Spread the peanut butter across a slice of bread instead of a Ritz cracker.

Buzz' coaching this year was the best by a Marquette coach since KO prowled the hardboards and bars of Milwaukee.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on March 12, 2013, 10:47:06 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on March 11, 2013, 07:35:18 AM
"Williams is expected to be named the Big East's coach of the year Tuesday."

This is from Mike Hunt's blog.

Zagoria tweeted that JT3 is expected to win.  Unfortunately for Buzz, I trust Zagoria a wee bit more than Hunt.

"@AdamZagoria: Could be another big day for Georgetown with Otto Porter Jr. and JT3 expected to pick up hardware tonight at MSG."
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 12, 2013, 10:52:04 AM
Quote from: PTM on March 12, 2013, 10:16:45 AM
Twitta tracker


Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria
At 5 p.m. today, the Big East will announce Player, Coach, Rookie & Scholar Athlete of the Year. Georgetown's Otto Porter Jr. will be POY.


Predictions
Player: Otto Porter
Coach: Buzz Williams
Rookie: Ryan Arcidiacono
Scholar Athlete: James Southerland
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 12, 2013, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 12, 2013, 10:47:06 AM
Zagoria tweeted that JT3 is expected to win.  Unfortunately for Buzz, I trust Zagoria a wee bit more than Hunt.

"@AdamZagoria: Could be another big day for Georgetown with Otto Porter Jr. and JT3 expected to pick up hardware tonight at MSG."

Zag is pretty clued in with the Big East.

Unless there is a late push for a co-COY, it looks like Buzz will be overlooked. Just like his team.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on March 12, 2013, 11:02:40 AM
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 12, 2013, 10:52:40 AM
Zag is pretty clued in with the Big East.

Unless there is a late push for a co-COY, it looks like Buzz will be overlooked. Just like his team.

Absolutely.  He broke Jae Crowder winning POY last year before anyone else.  Would agree that best we can hope for now is co-COY.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 12, 2013, 11:41:46 AM
Really, does it even matter? Buzz gets his well deserved award every 1st and 15th of the month.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 12, 2013, 11:44:18 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 12, 2013, 11:41:46 AM
Really, does it even matter? Buzz gets his well deserved award every 1st and 15th of the month.

dude even schedules his love-making?
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: muguru on March 12, 2013, 11:54:44 AM
Quote from: keefe on March 12, 2013, 10:43:56 AM
And the fact we went 10 deep. Spread the peanut butter across a slice of bread instead of a Ritz cracker.

Buzz' coaching this year was the best by a Marquette coach since KO prowled the hardboards and bars of Milwaukee.

He did a good job, but again, it's obvious from this thread that MU fans still don't realize how talented this MU team really is. Talent wins ball games. MU can get production from anyone any game. Georgetown was ALL Otto Porter. Perhaps the other Coaches realized the error of their ways as the season went on picking MU for 7th and realizing just how talented they are. MU is overall more talented than is Georgetown. I can see why, if that is their thinking that JTIII would win it. I still think Buzz deserves it, but when you look at it from this perspective, I can understand why he wouldn't.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: Brewtown Andy on March 12, 2013, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 12, 2013, 11:02:40 AM
Absolutely.  He broke Jae Crowder winning POY last year before anyone else.  Would agree that best we can hope for now is co-COY.

I don't think it was really a story to break, unless he had it before the all conference teams were named. Jae was the only unanimous first teamer last year, just like Porter this year.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on March 12, 2013, 02:10:24 PM
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on March 12, 2013, 11:58:02 AM
I don't think it was really a story to break, unless he had it before the all conference teams were named. Jae was the only unanimous first teamer last year, just like Porter this year.

He did.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 12, 2013, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 12, 2013, 11:44:18 AM
dude even schedules his love-making?



Just the happy ending.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 12, 2013, 02:25:25 PM
Quote from: muguru on March 12, 2013, 11:54:44 AM
He did a good job, but again, it's obvious from this thread that MU fans still don't realize how talented this MU team really is. Talent wins ball games. MU can get production from anyone any game. Georgetown was ALL Otto Porter. Perhaps the other Coaches realized the error of their ways as the season went on picking MU for 7th and realizing just how talented they are. MU is overall more talented than is Georgetown. I can see why, if that is their thinking that JTIII would win it. I still think Buzz deserves it, but when you look at it from this perspective, I can understand why he wouldn't.

Porter is definitely one of the top National POY candidates but to say that Gtown was all Porter is just wrong. Whitington was putting up 12 and 7 before his suspension. Starks put up 14 points and 3 assists per game in conference play.  Even Smith-Rivera came on strong late in the season and put up 14-4-2 on 46% shooting in the last 14 games.

This is not a knock on Porter. He's had a great season, but he definitely hasn't done it alone.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: ATWizJr on March 12, 2013, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: macman320 on March 11, 2013, 08:13:35 AM
The fact that Mr. Michael rarely reports positive news just for the heck of it makes me actually believe this. Unless he's just messing with us all.
He's messing with us.  Gives him a chance to appear to be sympathetic to MU BB.  If Buzz doesn't get it, he can then gleefully emphasize how little we are respected. If Buzz does get it, he can appear to be prescient.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 12, 2013, 03:07:20 PM
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on March 12, 2013, 11:58:02 AM
I don't think it was really a story to break, unless he had it before the all conference teams were named. Jae was the only unanimous first teamer last year, just like Porter this year.

Tell that to West Virginia fans ;D
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: drewm88 on March 12, 2013, 03:59:06 PM
It's JT3.

https://twitter.com/BigEastMBB
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: kchoya on March 12, 2013, 04:01:15 PM
Quote from: buzzchiapet on March 11, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
How many McDonalds All American players does Gtown have compared to us?

JT3 wins the award according to twitter reports.

Otto played in either the McDonald's game or the Jordan game (can't remember which). That's it.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: DCWarriors04 on March 12, 2013, 04:18:37 PM
Buzz got screwed...without Porter, Georgetown is 12-4 or 11-5.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: macman320 on March 12, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 11, 2013, 02:47:37 PM
Yes, because this is what solid, veteran, legitimate U.S. newspaper journalists do all the time: purposely report something on Monday with the full intent to look foolish on Tuesday.

Jeesh. Even when folks on this board aren't shooting the messenger they're still shooting the messenger.

Posting articles like that (the one saying buzz is expected to win) take away from his credentials as a "solid" journalist. Sure, it's not fair that people can post erroneous notions on twitter and everyone forgets, but newspapers are held to a different standard, or should be. He reported something from a source that wasn't legit, he's not trying to look bad on purpose, but nonetheless he looks bad.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: hoyasincebirth on March 12, 2013, 07:53:10 PM
Quote from: buzzchiapet on March 11, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
How many McDonalds All American players does Gtown have compared to us?

0 Georgetown has 0 McDonald's All Americans


Otto did play in the Jordan brand game.

Both Marquette and Georgetown have 5 RSCI top 100 players.
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on March 12, 2013, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: DCWarriors04 on March 12, 2013, 04:18:37 PM
Buzz got screwed...without Porter, Georgetown is 12-4 or 11-5.

Don't buy that argument.  Where would MU be without Blue?  or Gardner?  JT3 certainly gets credit for recruiting and coaching up Porter.  Also, your math is screwy...12-4 (16 games) or 11-5 (17 games)...lol. 
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: MU B2002 on March 12, 2013, 09:46:31 PM
In my book 11+5 = 16
Title: Re: When Is Big East COY Announced?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on March 12, 2013, 10:11:06 PM
Ha...I'm an idiot. 
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