MU vs. MSU
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/MARQET/MICHST
I think these resumes are very similar, and yet Palm has MSU as a 1 seed and MU as a 5 seed (on his March 1 update). I certainly don't see that much difference. Just found it odd/ interesting.
MU's loss to UW-GB is a lead weigh around our ankles.
Errrrrbody knows Palm is the worst
I don't know, that was also prior to the win yesterday, and if you were to think of MSU as the last number 1 (4th overall) and MU as the first 5 (17th overall), is it really that far off?
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 03, 2013, 01:38:43 PM
Errrrrbody knows Palm is the worst
Actually he has done very well over the years, but don't let your bias get in the way
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 03, 2013, 01:36:45 PM
MU's loss to UW-GB is a lead weigh around our ankles.
This hurts more than we want to believe. You stopping seeing zits on your girl friend but others do.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 03, 2013, 01:48:58 PM
Actually he has done very well over the years, but don't let your bias get in the way
I've noticed that Palm's brackets are different from almost all of the others in the industry throughout the year, and in his final projection he conforms to what seems to be the popular opinion.
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on March 03, 2013, 01:58:07 PM
I've noticed that Palm's brackets are different from almost all of the others in the industry throughout the year, and in his final projection he conforms to what seems to be the popular opinion.
He makes his adjustments like anyone else. There are so many brackets out there, so many experts. Some years he has beaten Lunardi, some years he hasn't. First and foremost they try to get the 68 teams right, the seeding lines are much more difficult because of various procedural bumps that can occur.
I think he's off on MSU and MU, for the record, but it's also two weeks until this stuff gets settled...it's meaningless at this point. If MSU finishes second in the Big Ten, it would not surprise me to have them as the final #1 seed considering the conference. It also wouldn't surprise me if MU ends up as a 3 seed, but so many things still have to happen. All I know is Gonzaga is going to get a 1 seed and I pray we are in their bracket. They are good, I like them a lot, but they aren't #1 seed good.
Right now, MU is a 4 seed for most "experts" (the last 4 seed, by the way), that's only 1 line different than Palm has them. Many experts have us as a 4 or a 5, a few as a 6 and a few as a 3.
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 03, 2013, 02:08:11 PM
He makes his adjustments like anyone else. There are so many brackets out there, so many experts. Some years he has beaten Lunardi, some years he hasn't. First and foremost they try to get the 68 teams right, the seeding lines are much more difficult because of various procedural bumps that can occur.
I think he's off on MSU and MU, for the record, but it's also two weeks until this stuff gets settled...it's meaningless at this point. If MSU finishes second in the Big Ten, it would not surprise me to have them as the final #1 seed considering the conference. It also wouldn't surprise me if MU ends up as a 3 seed, but so many things still have to happen. All I know is Gonzaga is going to get a 1 seed and I pray we are in their bracket. They are good, I like them a lot, but they aren't #1 seed good.
Right now, MU is a 4 seed for most "experts" (the last 4 seed, by the way), that's only 1 line different than Palm has them. Many experts have us as a 4 or a 5, a few as a 6 and a few as a 3.
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm
Wisconsin just dropped out of the four seed line.
Spent some time looking at the resume comparisons and I think we should be a lock for a 4 and playing for a 3.
We're one of only 11 teams with at least 3 RPI top 25 wins
We're one of only 8 teams with at least 7 RPI top 50 wins
SOS at 11
If you look at other 3 seeds (according to that bracketproject site) I think we compare favorably to Arizona and New Mexico and can sweep into their spots if they fall. It's also easy to bring up the UWGB loss, but it seems as though the big wins matter more than the bad losses when analyzing at the top (Georgetown's loss to USF and Kansas' loss to TCU haven't affected their seeds too much).
I think the only way we could possibly fall to a 5 is if we go 0-2 in our next two and then lose our first one in the BE tournament.
We lock a 4 if we go 2-1 (either lose at rutgers/STJ and then win one in the BE tournament or win out and lose first one in NY)
I think we should lock a 3 if we win out and make noise in the BE tournament
It obviously depends on what other teams do/ how the committee looks at us, but if you look at our resume it stacks up pretty nicely against the teams at the top
I opened this thread and expected to see keefe comparing his credentials to every other poster here.
Quote from: PTM on March 03, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
I opened this thread and expected to see keefe comparing his credentials to every other poster here.
+1
Quote from: PTM on March 03, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
I opened this thread and expected to see keefe comparing his credentials to every other poster here.
Ha! +1
Quote from: PTM on March 03, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
I opened this thread and expected to see keefe comparing his credentials to every other poster here.
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Two things stand out. We have a bad loss and they have twice as many road wins. When you go line-by-line, MSU looks just a little bit better in every category (RPI, SOS, best win, etc).
For me, the two biggest games we've lost to date are Green Bay and Villanova. Win those and we are a borderline 1-seed. The problem this year is that everyone is so close that it only takes a few blemishes to drop you 2 full lines. That said, when March starts, there are probably 10 teams that will be legitimate title contenders and another 10 that have an outside shot at winning it all. There will likely be a ton of parity in the field this year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 03, 2013, 09:36:26 PM
Two things stand out. We have a bad loss and they have twice as many road wins. When you go line-by-line, MSU looks just a little bit better in every category (RPI, SOS, best win, etc).
For me, the two biggest games we've lost to date are Green Bay and Villanova. Win those and we are a borderline 1-seed. The problem this year is that everyone is so close that it only takes a few blemishes to drop you 2 full lines. That said, when March starts, there are probably 10 teams that will be legitimate title contenders and another 10 that have an outside shot at winning it all. There will likely be a ton of parity in the field this year.
Of course since everyone thinks that this year we will probably all be disappointed and have an IU-KU-Duke-MSU Final Four or something like that.
Quote from: PTM on March 03, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
I opened this thread and expected to see keefe comparing his credentials to every other poster here.
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Quote from: PTM on March 03, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
I opened this thread and expected to see keefe comparing his credentials to every other poster here.
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Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 03, 2013, 01:36:45 PM
MU's loss to UW-GB is a lead weigh around our ankles.
Quote from: keefe on March 03, 2013, 01:57:56 PM
This hurts more than we want to believe. You stopping seeing zits on your girl friend but others do.
The UWGB loss is ancient history. It will absolutely no bearing on MU's seed. So-called "bad losses" really only matter to bubble teams.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 03, 2013, 07:28:28 PM
+1
Quote from: muarmy81 on March 03, 2013, 07:29:37 PM
Ha! +1
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on March 03, 2013, 09:08:50 PM
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Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 03, 2013, 01:48:58 PM
Actually he has done very well over the years, but don't let your bias get in the way
Using what criteria? He's not very good at projecting several weeks out, which is what this bracket is. Anybody can get all but 2 or 3 of the field on Selection Sunday morning. In the immortal words of Shania Twain, that don't impress me much.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 04, 2013, 01:36:11 PM
Using what criteria? He's not very good at projecting several weeks out, which is what this bracket is. Anybody can get all but 2 or 3 of the field on Selection Sunday morning. In the immortal words of Shania Twain, that don't impress me much.
Every year they do a bit of post mortem on which experts got the 68 teams right. That's one criteria. Then they go with seedings. That's another criteria.
Some years he has been at the top, some years in the middle. To say he is the absolute worst and EVERRRRYYYYYY body knows it is moronic. CBS isn't going to risk their credibility by putting someone out there that doesn't do a good job, which Jerry normally does.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 04, 2013, 02:31:18 PM
Every year they do a bit of post mortem on which experts got the 68 teams right. That's one criteria. Then they go with seedings. That's another criteria.
Some years he has been at the top, some years in the middle. To say he is the absolute worst and EVERRRRYYYYYY body knows it is moronic. CBS isn't going to risk their credibility by putting someone out there that doesn't do a good job, which Jerry normally does.
Exactly. They use the last bracket from Selection Sunday. Anybody can get 65, 66, 67, or 68 out of 68 right hours prior to the announcement. Palm is not good with projections several weeks out.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 04, 2013, 02:39:44 PM
Exactly. They use the last bracket from Selection Sunday. Anybody can get 65, 66, 67, or 68 out of 68 right hours prior to the announcement. Palm is not good with projections several weeks out.
The reality is that many don't get 67 or 68 even on the last day. The projections today don't mean anything, look at Lunardi's and how much they have changed just in the last 5 days...hell, just within broadcasts the other day he had three teams come in and out. They all do that. Go and print all of them today and then check back in two weeks and see how much change there is...they all have change.
Damn you, Jake Thomas!!
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 03, 2013, 01:36:45 PM
MU's loss to UW-GB is a lead weigh around our ankles.
Highly doubt that would drop MSU to a 5 seed. Kansas lost to TCU.....and?
This has much more to do with them being Michigan State coached by Tom Izzo, than a UWGB loss.
For whatever its worth, it has corrected a bit. He now has MU as a 4 and MSU as a 3.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 04, 2013, 06:05:57 PM
Highly doubt that would drop MSU to a 5 seed. Kansas lost to TCU.....and?
This has much more to do with them being Michigan State coached by Tom Izzo, than a UWGB loss.
I think it has as much to do with their rating and SOS. Jerry is an RPI hound. Michigan State is an 8 in the RPI, Marquette a 12...those 4 spots represent one full line difference.
RPI Forecast has MSU finishing 9th (that's a 3 seed) and MU 15th (that's a 4 seed). Right in line with what the RPI is saying and the seeds. He's just going by his numbers. RPI doesn't care about brand name, or if Izzo is coaching. Cares about who you played, where you played, did you win or lose. MSU's forecasted 4th toughest schedule in the country is helping them out....MU solid at 12th SOS
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on March 03, 2013, 07:56:26 PM
+ 1
touch 'em all, kid
Some people refuse to eat oysters while others see the world as their oyster.
Some people define their world by living in three Midwestern cities while others live on three continents and visit all 7.
Some people think getting away is going to the same cabin on the same lake every year while others fly fish Tasmania.
Some people have flown over the Rockies while others climb 7,000 meter mountains on 4 continents.
Some people are satisfied to work in the same company and make the same commute day after day while others leap at the opportunity to work in international outposts of American capitalism.
Some people master the English language while others master three very different Asian languages.
Some people are comforted by the foods they know while others explore the back alleys of Medan, Chengdu, Firenze, Budapest and Lima to discover what the locals eat.
Some people find joy in Christmas at home with extended family gathered round while others prefer the solitude of a Christmas sunset on the Andaman Sea with the spinnaker out on your 36' Yamaha.
Some people buy tricked out Hummers to tame the mean streets of Deer Park while others weld armor plate to the doors of their Hummer to keep RPGs in Samarra from penetrating into the cabin.
Some people think exotic is eating Thai at the strip mall while others eat Bolani while seated on the dirt floor of a Pashtun tribal chieftain's home.
Some people know someone who blew out an ACL skiing while others know several friends who have lost a limb from an IED or taken an AK round.
Some people have death touch them rarely while others live with the specter of death daily.
Life is about choices. There are neither better choices nor wrong choices, for every man must make his own way in this world. My guess is you are not one to eat oysters. You are content with the predictable, the expected, the comfortable. And there is nothing wrong with those choices. It is your life to live in the way you see fit.
One of the biggest problems with the Marquette community in my time was that it was a very homogenous world. Kids were middle class Catholic, a large percentage Irish and most from parochial backgrounds. There was very little diversity and what little there was not embraced. Rather, it was at a minimum avoided for most students were simply uncomfortable with their lack of understanding. In some cases diversity was mocked and ridiculed. I saw and heard this personally. The Black Student Union went on strike three times between the late 60's and the late '70's. And we almost lost our basketball team on one occasion.
I used to meet individually with Fr Corbett Walsh, Fr John Sheehan, and Br Sebastian Moore in the evenings just to pick their highly educated brains and understand their perspectives on life. Among other things we did discuss the diversity issue at Marquette. Fr Sheehan said he wished the University broadened its recruiting targets from the traditional Catholic ghettos of the Midwest and east coast but that had become the school's bread and butter since the '50's. Fr Walsh said Marquette's mission had settled comfortably into sending back good parishioners to the diocese from when they came. Both Jesuits felt the University was failing in its core Jesuit mission, however. The Jesuit tradition was to train lions to take on the world. Their view was that Marquette was creating lambs whose goal in life was to go to law school. Fr Sheehan said he intentionally would make provocative statements just to see if anyone would challenge him. And sadly, everybody would copiously write down everything he just said, even though it was outrageously incorrect.
Seb Moore was a real inspiration. He was part of that clerical enclave on Kilbourn that refused to live at the Jes Res. He often lamented the suburban white bread blandness of the student body at Marquette. He felt that Marquette students were devoid of passion and intellectual curiosity. They took notes, expected A's and were outraged when they got B's for simply regurgitating back his notes with nary a creative spark anywhere in that blue book. Seb challenged a group of us to do more than just conform. He often had an eclectic group over for dinner and the conversation would go deep into the night. He quoted Byron and urged us all to take Frost's road not taken for that would be the more interesting.
We were married by Fr Corbett Walsh at Gesu. At the end of the ceremony he leaned down to us and whispered, "I expect the two of you to do something good in this world together. Make a difference and dare to be different." No one else heard that but that is how we lived our lives together.
Quote from: keefe on March 04, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
Some people refuse to eat oysters while others see the world as their oyster.
Some people define their world by living in three Midwestern cities while others live on three continents and visit all 7.
Some people think getting away is going to the same cabin on the same lake every year while others fly fish Tasmania.
Some people have flown over the Rockies while others climb 7,000 meter mountains on 4 continents.
Some people are satisfied to work in the same company and make the same commute day after day while others leap at the opportunity to work in international outposts of American capitalism.
Some people master the English language while others master three very different Asian languages.
Some people are comforted by the foods they know while others explore the back alleys of Medan, Chengdu, Firenze, Budapest and Lima to discover what the locals eat.
Some people find joy in Christmas at home with extended family gathered round while others prefer the solitude of a Christmas sunset on the Andaman Sea with the spinnaker out on your 36' Yamaha.
Some people buy tricked out Hummers to tame the mean streets of Deer Park while others weld armor plate to the doors of their Hummer to keep RPGs in Samarra from penetrating into the cabin.
Some people think exotic is eating Thai at the strip mall while others eat Bolani while seated on the dirt floor of a Pashtun tribal chieftain's home.
Some people know someone who blew out an ACL skiing while others know several friends who have lost a limb from an IED or taken an AK round.
Some people have death touch them rarely while others live with the specter of death daily.
Life is about choices. There are neither better choices nor wrong choices, for every man must make his own way in this world. My guess is you are not one to eat oysters. You are content with the predictable, the expected, the comfortable. And there is nothing wrong with those choices. It is your life to live in the way you see fit.
One of the biggest problems with the Marquette community in my time was that it was a very homogenous world. Kids were middle class Catholic, a large percentage Irish and most from parochial backgrounds. There was very little diversity and what little there was not embraced. Rather, it was at a minimum avoided for most students were simply uncomfortable with their lack of understanding. In some cases diversity was mocked and ridiculed. I saw and heard this personally. The Black Student Union went on strike three times between the late 60's and the late '70's. And we almost lost our basketball team on one occasion.
I used to meet individually with Fr Corbett Walsh, Fr John Sheehan, and Br Sebastian Moore in the evenings just to pick their highly educated brains and understand their perspectives on life. Among other things we did discuss the diversity issue at Marquette. Fr Sheehan said he wished the University broadened its recruiting targets from the traditional Catholic ghettos of the Midwest and east coast but that had become the school's bread and butter since the '50's. Fr Walsh said Marquette's mission had settled comfortably into sending back good parishioners to the diocese from when they came. Both Jesuits felt the University was failing in its core Jesuit mission, however. The Jesuit tradition was to train lions to take on the world. Their view was that Marquette was creating lambs whose goal in life was to go to law school. Fr Sheehan said he intentionally would make provocative statements just to see if anyone would challenge him. And sadly, everybody would copiously write down everything he just said, even though it was outrageously incorrect.
Seb Moore was a real inspiration. He was part of that clerical enclave on Kilbourn that refused to live at the Jes Res. He often lamented the suburban white bread blandness of the student body at Marquette. He felt that Marquette students were devoid of passion and intellectual curiosity. They took notes, expected A's and were outraged when they got B's for simply regurgitating back his notes with nary a creative spark anywhere in that blue book. Seb challenged a group of us to do more than just conform. He often had an eclectic group over for dinner and the conversation would go deep into the night. He quoted Byron and urged us all to take Frost's road not taken for that would be the more interesting.
We were married by Fr Corbett Walsh at Gesu. At the end of the ceremony he leaned down to us and whispered, "I expect the two of you to do something good in this world together. Make a difference and dare to be different." No one else heard that but that is how we lived our lives together.
Quoted so you could read it.
::)
You just can't help but make everything about you huh? We get it, you think you're great.
Please create a website called Keefescoop.com. Those interested in your super awesome and interesting life can go there and read about it.
Dude, wtf is wrong with you?
Quote from: keefe on March 04, 2013, 08:15:18 PM
Quoted so you could read it.
That was helpful. Thank you. Quoting it. Because.
Did the Yamaha have a Yanmar engine? Quirky boom clearance on the 36 footers, but I'm pretty short.
Had a cheeseburger with a local in Lima. She said it was goat meat. Tasted a little like chicken. Free range chicken. But in Peru they pretty much are all free range. Some climb a few meters to get fed. Not like the chickens in my midwest hometown. Those beeches have it easy.
Keefe
Fr. Corbett Walsh was and is quite the man. On top of knowledge a great friend to the program for many years.
That was awesome.
Rocky, Spiral, SoCal and topper- just close this board up. It has reached it's apex, all downhill after keefe's post.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 04, 2013, 06:35:06 PM
I think it has as much to do with their rating and SOS. Jerry is an RPI hound. Michigan State is an 8 in the RPI, Marquette a 12...those 4 spots represent one full line difference.
RPI Forecast has MSU finishing 9th (that's a 3 seed) and MU 15th (that's a 4 seed). Right in line with what the RPI is saying and the seeds. He's just going by his numbers. RPI doesn't care about brand name, or if Izzo is coaching. Cares about who you played, where you played, did you win or lose. MSU's forecasted 4th toughest schedule in the country is helping them out....MU solid at 12th SOS
Was responding more to the point about Michigan St still being in the running for a #1 seed. A number #3 for them and #4 for us is perfectly reasonable.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 04, 2013, 08:38:29 PM
Dude, wtf is wrong with you?
Good point, PTM, but I thought I'd try to answer NRJ's question first:
DSM-IV and DSM-5 Criteria for the Narcisstic Personality Disorders
A. A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3. Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high- status people (or institutions).
4. Requires excessive admiration.
5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.
Quote from: PTM on March 03, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
I opened this thread and expected to see keefe comparing his credentials to every other poster here.
I wasn't familiar with Keene, so I didn't really get this. I do now.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 04, 2013, 09:21:37 PM
I wasn't familiar with Keene, so I didn't really get this. I do now.
warthog quit the haikus and came out of his shell a bit
Quote from: keefe on March 04, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
Some people refuse to eat oysters while others see the world as their oyster.
Some people define their world by living in three Midwestern cities while others live on three continents and visit all 7.
Some people think getting away is going to the same cabin on the same lake every year while others fly fish Tasmania.
Some people have flown over the Rockies while others climb 7,000 meter mountains on 4 continents.
Some people are satisfied to work in the same company and make the same commute day after day while others leap at the opportunity to work in international outposts of American capitalism.
Some people master the English language while others master three very different Asian languages.
Some people are comforted by the foods they know while others explore the back alleys of Medan, Chengdu, Firenze, Budapest and Lima to discover what the locals eat.
Some people find joy in Christmas at home with extended family gathered round while others prefer the solitude of a Christmas sunset on the Andaman Sea with the spinnaker out on your 36' Yamaha.
Some people buy tricked out Hummers to tame the mean streets of Deer Park while others weld armor plate to the doors of their Hummer to keep RPGs in Samarra from penetrating into the cabin.
Some people think exotic is eating Thai at the strip mall while others eat Bolani while seated on the dirt floor of a Pashtun tribal chieftain's home.
Some people know someone who blew out an ACL skiing while others know several friends who have lost a limb from an IED or taken an AK round.
Some people have death touch them rarely while others live with the specter of death daily.
Life is about choices. There are neither better choices nor wrong choices, for every man must make his own way in this world. My guess is you are not one to eat oysters. You are content with the predictable, the expected, the comfortable. And there is nothing wrong with those choices. It is your life to live in the way you see fit.
One of the biggest problems with the Marquette community in my time was that it was a very homogenous world. Kids were middle class Catholic, a large percentage Irish and most from parochial backgrounds. There was very little diversity and what little there was not embraced. Rather, it was at a minimum avoided for most students were simply uncomfortable with their lack of understanding. In some cases diversity was mocked and ridiculed. I saw and heard this personally. The Black Student Union went on strike three times between the late 60's and the late '70's. And we almost lost our basketball team on one occasion.
I used to meet individually with Fr Corbett Walsh, Fr John Sheehan, and Br Sebastian Moore in the evenings just to pick their highly educated brains and understand their perspectives on life. Among other things we did discuss the diversity issue at Marquette. Fr Sheehan said he wished the University broadened its recruiting targets from the traditional Catholic ghettos of the Midwest and east coast but that had become the school's bread and butter since the '50's. Fr Walsh said Marquette's mission had settled comfortably into sending back good parishioners to the diocese from when they came. Both Jesuits felt the University was failing in its core Jesuit mission, however. The Jesuit tradition was to train lions to take on the world. Their view was that Marquette was creating lambs whose goal in life was to go to law school. Fr Sheehan said he intentionally would make provocative statements just to see if anyone would challenge him. And sadly, everybody would copiously write down everything he just said, even though it was outrageously incorrect.
Seb Moore was a real inspiration. He was part of that clerical enclave on Kilbourn that refused to live at the Jes Res. He often lamented the suburban white bread blandness of the student body at Marquette. He felt that Marquette students were devoid of passion and intellectual curiosity. They took notes, expected A's and were outraged when they got B's for simply regurgitating back his notes with nary a creative spark anywhere in that blue book. Seb challenged a group of us to do more than just conform. He often had an eclectic group over for dinner and the conversation would go deep into the night. He quoted Byron and urged us all to take Frost's road not taken for that would be the more interesting.
We were married by Fr Corbett Walsh at Gesu. At the end of the ceremony he leaned down to us and whispered, "I expect the two of you to do something good in this world together. Make a difference and dare to be different." No one else heard that but that is how we lived our lives together.
Ever eat an ostrich burger?
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on March 04, 2013, 09:19:29 PM
Good point, PTM, but I thought I'd try to answer NRJ's question first:
DSM-IV and DSM-5 Criteria for the Narcisstic Personality Disorders
A. A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3. Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high- status people (or institutions).
4. Requires excessive admiration.
5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.
Thanks for the help. I don't know though, I think we've all been around long enough to know that if there's one thing true about people who truly "do something good in the world, make a difference, and dare to be different," it's that they typically make sure they go out of their way to seek attention and tell others about it.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 04, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
Thanks for the help. I don't know though, I think we've all been around long enough to know that if there's one thing true about people who truly "do something good in the world, make a difference, and dare to be different," it's that they typically make sure they go out of their way to seek attention and tell others about it.
+1
Quote from: PTM on March 04, 2013, 09:12:17 PM
That was awesome.
Rocky, Spiral, SoCal and topper- just close this board up. It has reached it's apex, all downhill after keefe's post.
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Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 04, 2013, 08:38:29 PM
Dude, wtf is wrong with you?
http://www.youtube.com/v/mQZmCJUSC6g
His scarf, it was apricot.
Wait, that was supposed to be satirical right?
Good stuff, Keefe. But you should have ended it with "I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis. Stay thirsty my friends."
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 04, 2013, 09:29:22 PM
Ever eat an ostrich burger?
Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 04, 2013, 09:29:22 PM
Ever eat an ostrich burger?
They say it has less fat, but you eat more of it.
Quote from: indeelaw90 on March 05, 2013, 09:20:23 AM
Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
Do you like gladiator movies?
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 04, 2013, 06:05:57 PM
Highly doubt that would drop MSU to a 5 seed. Kansas lost to TCU.....and?
This has much more to do with them being Michigan State coached by Tom Izzo, than a UWGB loss.
Exactly!!!!!!!
Here's why you don't have to worry about the UWGB loss:
The "Kenyon Martin Rule," i.e. the committee evaluates a team's roster at the start of the tournament, taking into consideration key player injuries, suspensions, etc. and the team's performance with and without those players. The UWGB loss took place at a time where a key player for MU - Todd Mayo - was not on the team; therefore, it is quite reasonable that the committee will discount - or even ignore - the negatives of 1-point losses to UWGB and Butler.
If you normalize MU's schedule to the current roster, there's an argument that UWGB and Butler should be considered wins for purposes of selection and seeding.
Quote from: keefe on March 04, 2013, 08:15:18 PM
Quoted so you could read it.
It's true that you can expand your horizons, by living overseas for example.
I lived in the UK for three years. I become familiar with the Brits frequent use of the term wanker.
How appropriate, now.