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Title: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: moomoo on March 01, 2013, 02:14:19 PM
I love it.  And the C7 should tell them we couldn't care less.

Catholic 7 coming to fruition quickly now

Report has formation of new league imminent with Notre Dame scrambling for short-term home
February 28, 2013|By Brian Hamilton, Chicago Tribune reporter

Subtly, quietly, Notre Dame coaches received word a few weeks back that they should plan for another year in the Big East, that the tumult of conference realignment didn't portend a new home until another two summers had passed.

Deafeningly, with all the delicacy of an air horn fired off an inch from their ears, every Irish coach and player and administrator received a new message Thursday: Prepare for just about anything now.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: warriorchick on March 01, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
On Saturday, I'll give Brey some Kleenex out of my purse.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 01, 2013, 02:22:15 PM
That will not help their recruiting.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: reinko on March 01, 2013, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 01, 2013, 02:22:15 PM
That will not help their recruiting.

Neither does only going to school with 2 Sweet 16 appearances in over 20 years.  ND basketball is a joke.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: MU86NC on March 01, 2013, 02:36:42 PM
Quote from: reinko on March 01, 2013, 02:31:32 PM
Neither does only going to school with 2 Sweet 16 appearances in over 20 years.  ND basketball is a joke.

I don't know if being ranked 21st in the country - a spot ahead of us qualifies as a joke...  they represent one of our top rivals and most played opponent...  maybe we will let them in!
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Badgerhater on March 01, 2013, 02:38:38 PM
Let them in for a year....if they pay to be there.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Groin_pull on March 01, 2013, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: MU86NC on March 01, 2013, 02:36:42 PM
I don't know if being ranked 21st in the country - a spot ahead of us qualifies as a joke...  they represent one of our top rivals and most played opponent...  maybe we will let them in!

Yes, ND has a respectable hoops program and is a major rival. But no, they don't get in.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: GGGG on March 01, 2013, 02:42:19 PM
ND is going to be just fine.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on March 01, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 01, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
On Saturday, I'll give Brey some Kleenex out of my purse.
I wonder what Brey will give you in return from his?
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: The Lens on March 01, 2013, 02:49:57 PM
I don't get the hate.  Sure they're an on court rival but to me our biggest rivals are the SEC & the Big Ten.  Those are the schools that could drive us extinct.  In a perfect world, ND would have stayed in the Big East.  They were forced to moved to protect themselves in an ever-changing landscape.

If ND needs a home that just means 1-2 more good games next year.  Heck, does Louisville need a home, I'd take them.

My god, if I might have to get married to Dayton, I'd definitely sleep with ND.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: keefe on March 01, 2013, 02:52:09 PM
Katz just reported that he thinks UND and UL will be in the ACC this fall by levering the C7 departure for their own purposes.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 01, 2013, 02:52:28 PM
Quote from: The Lens on March 01, 2013, 02:49:57 PM
I don't get the hate.  

That's easy ... they were rejected admission to ND and MU was their second choice.


Quote from: The Lens on March 01, 2013, 02:49:57 PM
If ND needs a home that just means 1-2 more good games next year.  Heck, does Louisville need a home, I'd take them.

My god, if I might have to get married to Dayton, I'd definitely sleep with ND.

+1
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: jficke13 on March 01, 2013, 02:54:34 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2013, 02:52:28 PM
That's easy ... they were rejected admission to ND and MU was their second choice.


Didn't apply, didn't have any desire to. Just can't stand 'em for all the reasons that make up a great rivalry.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 01, 2013, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: The Lens on March 01, 2013, 02:49:57 PM
I don't get the hate.  Sure they're an on court rival but to me our biggest rivals are the SEC & the Big Ten.  Those are the schools that could drive us extinct.  In a perfect world, ND would have stayed in the Big East.  They were forced to moved to protect themselves in an ever-changing landscape.

If ND needs a home that just means 1-2 more good games next year.  Heck, does Louisville need a home, I'd take them.

My god, if I might have to get married to Dayton, I'd definitely sleep with ND.

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2013, 02:52:28 PM
That's easy ... they were rejected admission to ND and MU was their second choice.


+1

For me it was Digger Phelps.  And it will be again, if he gets pulled out of the closet for the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on March 01, 2013, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on March 01, 2013, 02:54:34 PM
Didn't apply, didn't have any desire to. Just can't stand 'em for all the reasons that make up a great rivalry.
Same here as far as not applying. Why the hatred?  They're Notre F-ing Dame.  What other reason do we need?  F the domers.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: tower912 on March 01, 2013, 03:04:39 PM
I was accepted to both Michigan and ND.   After visiting the campuses, I knew I couldn't go either place.   Such palpable arrogance.   But I didn't really learn to 'hate' ND until David Rivers.    Seeing beer get spilled on Digger is still one of my great memories.   So, I would take them if they wanted to commit to the Big East, but for a year?    Enjoy your C-USA exile. 
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 01, 2013, 03:05:45 PM
For me they are my college football team.  Root for them all the time when they are not going against MU.

The school I cannot stand and have no use for is UW.  To me its just a giant community college.

As usual around here this comment will generate even more ND hate and UW love/justifications ...
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: keefe on March 01, 2013, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 01, 2013, 03:04:39 PM
I was accepted to both Michigan and ND.   After visiting the campuses, I knew I couldn't go either place.   Such palpable arrogance.   But I didn't really learn to 'hate' ND until David Rivers.    Seeing beer get spilled on Digger is still one of my great memories.   So, I would take them if they wanted to commit to the Big East, but for a year?    Enjoy your C-USA exile. 

Palpable arrogance? Michigan?
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: brewcity77 on March 01, 2013, 03:17:24 PM
I absolutely take Notre Dame for the one year, no questions asked. Surprised there's even a discussion in that regard. They would be a one-year positive for the conference, get us to 10 without paying an additional buyout, and likely lessen the buyout fees for the teams we plan to add in 2014. No-brainer decision to take the Irish for a year.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Groin_pull on March 01, 2013, 04:49:11 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 01, 2013, 03:17:24 PM
I absolutely take Notre Dame for the one year, no questions asked. Surprised there's even a discussion in that regard. They would be a one-year positive for the conference, get us to 10 without paying an additional buyout, and likely lessen the buyout fees for the teams we plan to add in 2014. No-brainer decision to take the Irish for a year.

So, we leave a conference with no stability, and the first thing you want to do is take on a one-year rental? ::)
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Coleman on March 01, 2013, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 01, 2013, 03:17:24 PM
I absolutely take Notre Dame for the one year, no questions asked. Surprised there's even a discussion in that regard. They would be a one-year positive for the conference, get us to 10 without paying an additional buyout, and likely lessen the buyout fees for the teams we plan to add in 2014. No-brainer decision to take the Irish for a year.

No.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: 🏀 on March 01, 2013, 05:07:31 PM
I'd let the Irish in if they agree to a 16-year home and home deal with Marquette.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: keefe on March 01, 2013, 05:20:58 PM
Quote from: PTM on March 01, 2013, 05:07:31 PM
I'd let the Irish in if they agree to a 16-year home and home deal with Marquette.

hell no.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: sailwi on March 01, 2013, 05:46:03 PM
My first response was why not then I read the quotes from their AD and my updated response is FU.  Swarbrick's quote from ESPN article:

"If the Catholic 7 is leaving and forming its own conference for next year, they could certainly call us to want to explore our options," Swarbrick said Friday. "And if they were interested in accommodating us, it would certainly be a viable option. We have a lot of respect for those schools and know them well."

Well excuse me your the one who needs some help but we should pick up the phone and call you why? because you are ND are we are not.  No thanks.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: hairy worthen on March 01, 2013, 05:47:15 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 01, 2013, 03:17:24 PM
I absolutely take Notre Dame for the one year, no questions asked. Surprised there's even a discussion in that regard. They would be a one-year positive for the conference, get us to 10 without paying an additional buyout, and likely lessen the buyout fees for the teams we plan to add in 2014. No-brainer decision to take the Irish for a year.

Wrong.  Its not always the best idea to take the quick short term cash. ND would be near the top of the conference and then they leave. How does that help, other than to protray the new conference as weak, unstable and a bunch of money grabbers. Not a good decision and yes there should be serious discussion against doing it.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 01, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
Curious ... if Duke was looking for a one-year rental, would you take them or turn them down for the same reason?
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: hairy worthen on March 01, 2013, 05:51:27 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
Curious ... if Duke was looking for a one-year rental, would you take them or turn them down for the same reason?

It has nothing to do with hatred for ND. No I wouldnt take Duke or anyone else under those circumstances. Hopefully the conference will be viable for many many years, that is the point of forming it. We shouldn't sell out for a quick one night stand.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 01, 2013, 05:52:07 PM
Quote from: hairyworthen on March 01, 2013, 05:47:15 PM
weak, unstable and a bunch of money grabbers

Several posters have said this.  To me this is meaningless BS.  

Please explain like you're talking to a 13 year old how taking ND for one year, not having to shell out 100k for another buyout game, getting one more sellout game (if we get them at home), increasing your SoS and getting even more attention to a startup conference is bad?
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: keefe on March 01, 2013, 05:56:35 PM
Quote from: hairyworthen on March 01, 2013, 05:51:27 PM
It has nothing to do with hatred for ND. No I wouldnt take Duke or anyone else under those circumstances. Hopefully the conference will be viable for many many years, that is the point of forming it. We shouldn't sell out for a quick one night stand.

Exactly. We're not the hooker on the corner. Stability is a precious commodity and UND already let us know their thoughts on affiliating with us. Anyhow, Katz is saying if the C7 start this Fall then so too will UND and UL.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: hairy worthen on March 01, 2013, 06:04:46 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2013, 05:52:07 PM
Several posters have said this.  To me this is meaningless BS.  

Please explain like you're talking to a 13 year old how taking ND for one year, not having to shell out 100k for another buyout game, getting one more sellout game (if we get them at home), increasing your SoS and getting even more attention to a startup conference is bad?
You are absolutely correct, it will be better financially at first. But, You have a startup conference that broke away from a national power conference because it was unstable and there was no certainty.  Then the very first year the new conference is in existence we take a team that is leaving after the first year of the new conference play just so we can make more money. Does that sound hypocritical to you?  That's not the type of attention we want.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: hairy worthen on March 01, 2013, 06:06:19 PM
Quote from: keefe on March 01, 2013, 05:56:35 PM
Exactly. We're not the hooker on the corner. Stability is a precious commodity and UND already let us know their thoughts on affiliating with us. Anyhow, Katz is saying if the C7 start this Fall then so too will UND and UL.

That is part of the deal as I understand, that ul and nd get the hell out and start acc play next season as well. Thats good, I say.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: chapman on March 01, 2013, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
Curious ... if Duke was looking for a one-year rental, would you take them or turn them down for the same reason?

I couldn't be objective because I like Duke basketball and attend a few games each year, just as you're not being objective because of your love of ND.  If it were St. John's that was going to the ACC and needed a home for one year, would you let them in?  If this was a football conference I'd be all about a one year gig, but Notre Dame basketball is nothing special that we need a quick money grab that's immaterial in the long run.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 01, 2013, 07:15:03 PM
Does Fox want them?
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: MUCam on March 01, 2013, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: keefe on March 01, 2013, 03:07:55 PM
Palpable arrogance? Michigan?

Aren't Michigan and palpable arrogance synonyms?
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: brewcity77 on March 01, 2013, 07:45:46 PM
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 01, 2013, 04:49:11 PM
So, we leave a conference with no stability, and the first thing you want to do is take on a one-year rental? ::)

Here's why I take Notre Dame...

1) Loyalty. I fully believe Notre Dame helped get Marquette and DePaul into the Big East in the first place. Repaying that is good karma. Leaving them out in the cold is similar to the idiots who think we should try to ditch DePaul, completely forgetting how powerhouse DePaul basically dragged a moribund Marquette into the Great Midwest some 20 years ago, and without DePaul doing that there is no way we are where we are today.

2) Saving costs. We won't get a great boost from adding Dayton or St. Louis a year earlier. Take a school that can handle their own buyout costs, will almost certainly earn a NCAA berth, and improve everyone's RPI. In addition, that allows us to add whichever other three schools we choose with an extra year taken off their buyout, smoothing their road into the Big East in 2014.

3) I hate Notre Dame. And I really, really LOVE hating Notre Dame. Just like I love hating Wisconsin. But it's hard to maintain a hate when you don't play a team. This would guarantee two more games with the Irish in a year where Marquette is projected to have their strongest team in over a decade. Let's beat them twice and send them to the ACC with a 3-game losing streak to Marquette.

4) We don't know exactly who we want for 10, 11, and 12. Taking Notre Dame allows us a little more time to hash out who will be the best fits between VCU, St. Louis, Dayton, Creighton, Richmond, and any other schools we might be considering.

5) I definitely want a long-term home-and-home with ND. Doing them a favor now will likely help improve the odds of that happening.

6) Maybe they'll come back. Let me say before anyone jumps on this I do not at all expect this to happen. But if the ACC takes a severe tumble and loses 5 programs, maybe the Irish will be in a position where their SOS with the 5 mandated ACC games isn't enough to get into the new football playoff. Maybe they will lose some of their bowl links, reducing Notre Dame's ability to get into top non-playoff bowls. If they did decide to go back to full football independence, they might need a conference for their basketball and non-revenue sports. I would love to keep that line of communication open.

Bottom line, adding Notre Dame is NOT the same as adding UConn or Cincy. We would know the terms and know they wouldn't be shaking up our league because of their football. It helps solidify a long-term relationship and keeps the door open for the future while also making it easier to iron out the last 3 teams in 2014.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: real chili 83 on March 01, 2013, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2013, 03:05:45 PM
For me they are my college football team.  Root for them all the time when they are not going against MU.

The school I cannot stand and have no use for is UW.  To me its just a giant community college.

As usual around here this comment will generate even more ND hate and UW love/justifications ...
You need to turn in your diploma.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: badgerbldg on March 01, 2013, 08:46:57 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2013, 03:05:45 PM
For me they are my college football team.  Root for them all the time when they are not going against MU.

The school I cannot stand and have no use for is UW.  To me its just a giant community college.

As usual around here this comment will generate even more ND hate and UW love/justifications ...

Only an MU grad who is a Notre Dame fan would make a post calling UW, one of the top 20 universities in the whole WORLD, a community college. I went to Madison for a semester and figured I couldn't cut it so I transferred to Marquette and graduated summa cum laude in business and cum laude in law. Notre Dame is a legacy filled joke of a school where the brightest kid was that football player who got scammed into thinking he bagged a babe..
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: forgetful on March 01, 2013, 09:01:39 PM
Quote from: badgerbldg on March 01, 2013, 08:46:57 PM
Only an MU grad who is a Notre Dame fan would make a post calling UW, one of the top 20 universities in the whole WORLD, a community college. I went to Madison for a semester and figured I couldn't cut it so I transferred to Marquette and graduated summa cum laude in business and cum laude in law. Notre Dame is a legacy filled joke of a school where the brightest kid was that football player who got scammed into thinking he bagged a babe..

Ummm, I know people that couldn't get into MU that went to UW and posted 3.5-4.0's.  If what you post is true then my guess would be after spending a semester on State St, you got your act together and focused on school. 

2nd UW is not a top 20 University in the world.  That is laughable.  In fact it isn't even top 20 in the US.

Also interesting that a person who went to school at MU for undergrad and grad school has the name badgerbldg, troll much.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Montana Warrior on March 01, 2013, 09:22:13 PM
Start a new thread or get a room if you want to create a badger lovefest.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 01, 2013, 09:24:00 PM
Using USNWR's rankings, UW is falling every year.  And they keep losing their top professors b/c other schools are poaching them away.  Plus the freakin campus smells like cowshit for most of the year.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: keefe on March 01, 2013, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: badgerbldg on March 01, 2013, 08:46:57 PM
Only an MU grad who is a Notre Dame fan would make a post calling UW, one of the top 20 universities in the whole WORLD, a community college. I went to Madison for a semester and figured I couldn't cut it so I transferred to Marquette and graduated summa cum laude in business and cum laude in law. Notre Dame is a legacy filled joke of a school where the brightest kid was that football player who got scammed into thinking he bagged a babe..

Where the hell do you get Wisconsin is a World's Top 20 University. It ain't even that in the US.

I am so sorry you were intimidated by the Madison curriculum and had to slum it at Marquette. I went to Marquette then on to some universities that have world class reputations. Not only do I consider my Marquette education to be world class but I felt so much better prepared than some classmates who did their undergrad work at Ivies. It is what you make of it and if you embrace the Jesuit approach to educating the whole person then you come out of Marquette the intellectual equal of anyone. Anywhere.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Logi4three on March 01, 2013, 09:40:38 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 01, 2013, 03:17:24 PM
I absolutely take Notre Dame for the one year, no questions asked. Surprised there's even a discussion in that regard. They would be a one-year positive for the conference, get us to 10 without paying an additional buyout, and likely lessen the buyout fees for the teams we plan to add in 2014. No-brainer decision to take the Irish for a year.

Amen!
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: chapman on March 01, 2013, 10:01:52 PM
Quote from: badgerbldg on March 01, 2013, 08:46:57 PM
Only an MU grad who is a Notre Dame fan would make a post calling UW, one of the top 20 universities in the whole WORLD, a community college. I went to Madison for a semester and figured I couldn't cut it so I transferred to Marquette and graduated summa cum laude in business and cum laude in law. Notre Dame is a legacy filled joke of a school where the brightest kid was that football player who got scammed into thinking he bagged a babe..

Badger fan BS alert.  I actually did start at Madison (for one year, couldn't stand the school or city) and finish at MU.  You don't decide you "can't cut it" at Madison after one semester, and only a Badger troll would embarrass themselves by calling it a top 20 world university.  And as far as a (limited) comparison; that is only comparing lower-level core classes which is all you (if you weren't lying) or I could compare, from my experience MU's classes were much more intense, though you got more out of it since classes aren't all 250+ people and taught by TAs.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 01, 2013, 10:36:53 PM
Quote from: badgerbldg on March 01, 2013, 08:46:57 PM
Only an MU grad who is a Notre Dame fan would make a post calling UW, one of the top 20 universities in the whole WORLD, a community college. I went to Madison for a semester and figured I couldn't cut it so I transferred to Marquette and graduated summa cum laude in business and cum laude in law. Notre Dame is a legacy filled joke of a school where the brightest kid was that football player who got scammed into thinking he bagged a babe..

What a pathetic troll ... This post is why I continue to think UW is an oversized community college.

Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 01, 2013, 10:53:13 PM
I would say yes, let them in.

There may come a day where a Notre Dame will be a key friend in the world of college sports.  Sometimes you have to rise above.  I respect their school and their place in college athletics...making sure we are on good terms with ND is good policy.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: augoman on March 01, 2013, 10:56:33 PM
UW at Madison is just like high school.  It was the fall back school for most of my friends.  A couple of us went to their homecoming as juniors in high school ( with local dates).  My daughter passed on a full ride at UW-Madison to attend Northwestern on my dime.  I stopped attending their football games due to the students' behavior, not that the alumni were any better.  Top 20?  Only if ranking arrests, alcohol consumption, unreported rapes, etc...
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: real chili 83 on March 01, 2013, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 01, 2013, 10:53:13 PM
I would say yes, let them in.

There may come a day where a Notre Dame will be a key friend in the world of college sports.  Sometimes you have to rise above.  I respect their school and their place in college athletics...making sure we are on good terms with ND is good policy.

CBB, grew up in SB.  Bunch of d bags.  Ya, they got dough.  So does Donald trump.  
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: avid1010 on March 01, 2013, 11:03:20 PM
Quote from: keefe on March 01, 2013, 09:27:08 PM
Where the hell do you get Wisconsin is a World's Top 20 University. It ain't even that in the US.

I am so sorry you were intimidated by the Madison curriculum and had to slum it at Marquette. I went to Marquette then on to some universities that have world class reputations. Not only do I consider my Marquette education to be world class but I felt so much better prepared than some classmates who did their undergrad work at Ivies. It is what you make of it and if you embrace the Jesuit approach to educating the whole person then you come out of Marquette the intellectual equal of anyone. Anywhere.
how does the jesuit approach to education make you the intellectual equal to anyone?
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Coleman on March 01, 2013, 11:05:30 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on March 01, 2013, 11:03:20 PM
how does the jesuit approach to education make you the intellectual equal to anyone?

I believe the Jesuit approach to education is lots of PBR on Saturday and praying for forgiveness on Sunday
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: avid1010 on March 01, 2013, 11:06:25 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2013, 10:36:53 PM
What a pathetic troll ... This post is why I continue to think UW is an oversized community college.
i've taken courses at some of the best universities in the US, as well as at MU and UW....two of my favorite professors/courses were taken for pennies at a community college.  
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 02, 2013, 12:11:40 AM
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 01, 2013, 10:59:09 PM
CBB, grew up in SB.  Bunch of d bags.  Ya, they got dough.  So does Donald trump.  

Powerful people in powerful places, always a good thing to be a part of.  Letting them into the conference would be a big deal.  I'd rather be above the fray on this one...call it a Catholic Karma thing if you like.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: badgerbldg on March 02, 2013, 06:55:16 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2013, 10:36:53 PM
What a pathetic troll ... This post is why I continue to think UW is an oversized community college.



Here is the link to the survey ranking UW 19th in the WORLD. www.wisc.edu/20966

Another84: I am not a pathetic troll ... Think about it, does badgerbldg ring a bell.?

Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: 🏀 on March 02, 2013, 06:58:10 AM
Quote from: badgerbldg on March 02, 2013, 06:55:16 AM
Here is the link to the survey ranking UW 19th in the WORLD. www.wisc.edu/20966

Another84: I am not a pathetic troll ... Think about it, does badgerbldg ring a bell.?



Fail. Troll.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: CTWarrior on March 02, 2013, 07:10:19 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 01, 2013, 07:45:46 PM
Here's why I take Notre Dame...

1) Loyalty. I fully believe Notre Dame helped get Marquette and DePaul into the Big East in the first place. Repaying that is good karma. Leaving them out in the cold is similar to the idiots who think we should try to ditch DePaul, completely forgetting how powerhouse DePaul basically dragged a moribund Marquette into the Great Midwest some 20 years ago, and without DePaul doing that there is no way we are where we are today.

2) Saving costs. We won't get a great boost from adding Dayton or St. Louis a year earlier. Take a school that can handle their own buyout costs, will almost certainly earn a NCAA berth, and improve everyone's RPI. In addition, that allows us to add whichever other three schools we choose with an extra year taken off their buyout, smoothing their road into the Big East in 2014.

3) I hate Notre Dame. And I really, really LOVE hating Notre Dame. Just like I love hating Wisconsin. But it's hard to maintain a hate when you don't play a team. This would guarantee two more games with the Irish in a year where Marquette is projected to have their strongest team in over a decade. Let's beat them twice and send them to the ACC with a 3-game losing streak to Marquette.

4) We don't know exactly who we want for 10, 11, and 12. Taking Notre Dame allows us a little more time to hash out who will be the best fits between VCU, St. Louis, Dayton, Creighton, Richmond, and any other schools we might be considering.

5) I definitely want a long-term home-and-home with ND. Doing them a favor now will likely help improve the odds of that happening.

6) Maybe they'll come back. Let me say before anyone jumps on this I do not at all expect this to happen. But if the ACC takes a severe tumble and loses 5 programs, maybe the Irish will be in a position where their SOS with the 5 mandated ACC games isn't enough to get into the new football playoff. Maybe they will lose some of their bowl links, reducing Notre Dame's ability to get into top non-playoff bowls. If they did decide to go back to full football independence, they might need a conference for their basketball and non-revenue sports. I would love to keep that line of communication open.

Bottom line, adding Notre Dame is NOT the same as adding UConn or Cincy. We would know the terms and know they wouldn't be shaking up our league because of their football. It helps solidify a long-term relationship and keeps the door open for the future while also making it easier to iron out the last 3 teams in 2014.

Well said.  Agree 100%.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 02, 2013, 09:56:16 AM
Quote from: badgerbldg on March 02, 2013, 06:55:16 AM
Here is the link to the survey ranking UW 19th in the WORLD. www.wisc.edu/20966

Another84: I am not a pathetic troll ... Think about it, does badgerbldg ring a bell.?



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Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 02, 2013, 10:17:18 AM
Quote from: badgerbldg on March 02, 2013, 06:55:16 AM
Here is the link to the survey ranking UW 19th in the WORLD. www.wisc.edu/20966

Another84: I am not a pathetic troll ... Think about it, does badgerbldg ring a bell.?

Yes it does ... We have a famous anonymous poster here and he has changed my mind.  I agree that UW is a top 20 university in the world.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: connie on March 02, 2013, 10:30:04 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 01, 2013, 07:45:46 PM
Here's why I take Notre Dame...

1) Loyalty. I fully believe Notre Dame helped get Marquette and DePaul into the Big East in the first place. Repaying that is good karma. Leaving them out in the cold is similar to the idiots who think we should try to ditch DePaul, completely forgetting how powerhouse DePaul basically dragged a moribund Marquette into the Great Midwest some 20 years ago, and without DePaul doing that there is no way we are where we are today.

2) Saving costs. We won't get a great boost from adding Dayton or St. Louis a year earlier. Take a school that can handle their own buyout costs, will almost certainly earn a NCAA berth, and improve everyone's RPI. In addition, that allows us to add whichever other three schools we choose with an extra year taken off their buyout, smoothing their road into the Big East in 2014.

3) I hate Notre Dame. And I really, really LOVE hating Notre Dame. Just like I love hating Wisconsin. But it's hard to maintain a hate when you don't play a team. This would guarantee two more games with the Irish in a year where Marquette is projected to have their strongest team in over a decade. Let's beat them twice and send them to the ACC with a 3-game losing streak to Marquette.

4) We don't know exactly who we want for 10, 11, and 12. Taking Notre Dame allows us a little more time to hash out who will be the best fits between VCU, St. Louis, Dayton, Creighton, Richmond, and any other schools we might be considering.

5) I definitely want a long-term home-and-home with ND. Doing them a favor now will likely help improve the odds of that happening.

6) Maybe they'll come back. Let me say before anyone jumps on this I do not at all expect this to happen. But if the ACC takes a severe tumble and loses 5 programs, maybe the Irish will be in a position where their SOS with the 5 mandated ACC games isn't enough to get into the new football playoff. Maybe they will lose some of their bowl links, reducing Notre Dame's ability to get into top non-playoff bowls. If they did decide to go back to full football independence, they might need a conference for their basketball and non-revenue sports. I would love to keep that line of communication open.

Bottom line, adding Notre Dame is NOT the same as adding UConn or Cincy. We would know the terms and know they wouldn't be shaking up our league because of their football. It helps solidify a long-term relationship and keeps the door open for the future while also making it easier to iron out the last 3 teams in 2014.

I agree, although I think I can maintain my ND hate even if we don't play them.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 02, 2013, 11:06:12 AM
C7 will do the right thing. WWJD?
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: hairy worthen on March 02, 2013, 11:30:15 AM
Quote from: elephantraker on March 02, 2013, 11:06:12 AM
C7 will do the right thing. WWJD?

Who cares what Jamil would do.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 02, 2013, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: hairyworthen on March 02, 2013, 11:30:15 AM
Who cares what Jamil would do.

I do.

Especially if it centers around hitting three after three, breaking their zone, dunking on Cooley, winning Senior Day, and more importantly, extending the nation's second longest home court winning streak in D1.

PLAY LIKE A CHUMP TODAY, ND!
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: The Process on March 02, 2013, 01:13:57 PM
FWIW, Dennis Krause (DennisKrause1 on Twitter) thinks that ND might be a good add to make it a "smoother transition" for the C7 and that we "need at least 8 in league."

Perhaps he needs to be... educated... about things?
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: slingkong on March 06, 2013, 11:07:57 AM
Let em in but they get no dough. If they're so all-powerful, they don't need it. And they'd just be using BE2.0 for SOS purposes, so they don't deserve it. But let em in anyway, and we can use them for SOS and they can use us for SOS.
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Warriors10 on March 06, 2013, 11:09:59 AM
Makes perfect sense for both ACC and ND to do this:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9022342/notre-dame-fighting-irish-join-acc-summer-school-negotiate-big-east-exit-according-sources (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9022342/notre-dame-fighting-irish-join-acc-summer-school-negotiate-big-east-exit-according-sources)
Title: Re: ND scrambling for a home - Irish eyes are crying
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 06, 2013, 11:18:35 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 02, 2013, 10:17:18 AM
Yes it does ... We have a famous anonymous poster here and he has changed my mind.  I agree that UW is a top 20 university in the world.

Don't despair, Another MU84, just tell us who in your family they've kidnapped, and we'll find 'em.  I promise.
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