Major, major break for the Warriors.
If they get past ND, they'll play a terrible Rutgers team without best player and then finish against an average Redmen team without best player.
If you believe in stars aligning.........
I just know I'm a big fan of Syracuse and Villanova for the next week+.
Source?
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 01, 2013, 09:10:54 AM
Major, major break for the Warriors.
If they get past ND, they'll play a terrible Rutgers team without best player and then finish against an average Redmen team without best player.
If you believe in stars aligning.........
MU definitely catching some breaks there, but out of our control...you play who you play and if their players aren't there not anything we can do about it. Just take advantage of it.
Quote from: tower912 on March 01, 2013, 09:13:46 AM
Source?
Lot's of them, all over the internet. Here is one
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/st_john_captain_harrison_suspended_u3ERSEg20zeztPZyy0mh1L (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/st_john_captain_harrison_suspended_u3ERSEg20zeztPZyy0mh1L)
This definitely seems to be a charmed year. Beat the Irish then hope like hell GTown drops 1/3. Stranger things have happened!
Don't want to be a Debbie downer, but that Rutgers game could be the classic trap game, especially if we beat ND on Saturday.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 01, 2013, 09:23:59 AM
Don't want to be a Debbie downer, but that Rutgers game could be the classic trap game, especially if we beat ND on Saturday.
Hopefully, we already had that game....at Nova.
Agree!
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 01, 2013, 09:23:59 AM
Don't want to be a Debbie downer, but that Rutgers game could be the classic trap game, especially if we beat ND on Saturday.
The RAC is a tough place to play, no doubt. But Rutgers is in the 100s in the RPI, BPI and Pomeroy. Have lost 10 of 12. Are 13-13 overall. Missing their best player. Can't overlook them, but it should be a win for MU 80% of the time.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 01, 2013, 09:23:59 AM
Don't want to be a Debbie downer, but that Rutgers game could be the classic trap game, especially if we beat ND on Saturday.
A trap game is when a team falls into the trap looking past a poor-quality opponent to the much bigger game that's next on the schedule. Thus, coach-speak 101 is to always "take it one game at a time."
Could a game against St. Johns on Saturday even be considered a distraction?
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 01, 2013, 09:54:44 AM
The RAC is a tough place to play, no doubt. But Rutgers is in the 100s in the RPI, BPI and Pomeroy. Have lost 10 of 12. Are 13-13 overall. Missing their best player. Can't overlook them, but it should be a win for MU 80% of the time.
Live in Jersey so I've had plenty of time watching Rutgers. One of those squads that lacks just a little something in every position so they can stay tight for 10, 20, sometimes 30 minutes but eventually they fall away. Of course, now without Carter, that weakness is magnified and typically only stay tight for 3/4 of a half.
If MU beats ND, I'd have to imagine the focus will be laser tight knowing what they can achieve. I don't doubt them to win those games next week even given their struggles away from home this season.
Quote from: Benny B on March 01, 2013, 10:00:54 AM
A trap game is when a team falls into the trap looking past a poor-quality opponent to the much bigger game that's next on the schedule. Thus, coach-speak 101 is to always "take it one game at a time."
Could a game against St. Johns on Saturday even be considered a distraction?
It could if Georgetown loses and that game is for the Big East title.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 01, 2013, 10:03:17 AM
It could if Georgetown loses and that game is for the Big East title.
Fair enough.
Though assuming the Hoyas beat Rutgers tomorrow, Georgetown then plays Nova on Wed and Syracuse next Saturday, so MU will likely not know whether the St. Johns game has title-implications until at least a day after the Rutgers game.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9002405/dangelo-harrison-st-john-red-storm-suspended-rest-season
No reason given, but season definitely over.
Louisville @ Syracuse
Georgetown @ Villanova
Syracuse @ Georgetown
Quote from: Benny B on March 01, 2013, 10:18:22 AM
Fair enough.
Though assuming the Hoyas beat Rutgers tomorrow, Georgetown then plays Nova on Wed and Syracuse next Saturday, so MU will likely not know whether the St. Johns game has title-implications until at least a day after the Rutgers game.
Yeah, I thought of the timing of it too. Georgetown would have to lose tomorrow (ironically to Rutgers) for it really to matter.
Well, gotta cheer for Cuse and Nova to win, and hope we win out as well. LETS DO THIS.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 01, 2013, 09:10:54 AM
Major, major break for the Warriors.
If they get past ND, they'll play a terrible Rutgers team without best player and then finish against an average Redmen team without best player.
If you believe in stars aligning.........
I am always cautious when these things happen. Sometimes they will be the reverse by addition through subtraction. Harrison was their best scorer because he was a chucker. What happens when you take him out of the equation and they run a more cohesive offense. Unless it is something related to the NCAA, I wouldn't think that Lavin would suspend him with a shot at the tournament. If Harrison was a "cancer" on the team this could be a very good thing for St. John's but we will have to see.
Quote from: chapman on March 01, 2013, 10:26:18 AM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9002405/dangelo-harrison-st-john-red-storm-suspended-rest-season
No reason given, but season definitely over.
Louisville @ Syracuse
Georgetown @ Villanova
Syracuse @ Georgetown
Sounds somewhat like the Todd Mayo suspension over the summer to me.
Quote from: Benny B on March 01, 2013, 10:00:54 AM
A trap game is when a team falls into the trap looking past a poor-quality opponent to the much bigger game that's next on the schedule. Thus, coach-speak 101 is to always "take it one game at a time."
A similar scenario, which I think plenty of people also refer to as a 'trap' is when a team steps up and beats a solid opponent and seems to have a (false) bravado when next facing a seemingly weak opponent. If MU beats ND, they are coming off two good and important wins, with a realistic chance to finish at least tied for first...it will be critical that the team isn't overconfident going to Rutgers. That's the potential trap.
Quote from: mug644 on March 01, 2013, 12:09:54 PM
If MU beats ND, they are coming off two good and important wins, with a realistic chance to finish at least tied for first...it will be critical that the team isn't overconfident going to Rutgers. That's the potential trap.
Boy, do I just not see that happening with this team.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 01, 2013, 12:16:56 PM
Boy, do I just not see that happening with this team.
What don't you see happening: Beating ND and thus having two solid wins in a row against quality teams (albeit at home) then going to a supposedly weak opponent in Rutgers? Or, the team perhaps being overconfident after a solid win? While there was the Savannah State game (a big blowout) between UW and UWGB, I think most of us might say that the team was possibly overconfident going up to Green Bay. Doesn't make it a trap game, but it might keep us from thinking that we'll win even seemingly easy road games.
If us gtown and UL all finish with 4 losses do we get the 3 seed due to gtown beating UL(splitting us) and us losing to UL?
The way things are going, Cooley could get a bad ankle sprain getting off the bus.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on March 01, 2013, 12:42:48 PM
If us gtown and UL all finish with 4 losses do we get the 3 seed due to gtown beating UL(splitting us) and us losing to UL?
Yes.