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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM

Title: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Marq is a perennial 4th to 9th place team in the big East (except for last year).....

hard to get excited about this team,,,,
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: Mutaman on February 24, 2013, 12:03:43 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Marq is a perennial 4th to 9th place team in the big East (except for last year).....

hard to get excited about this team,,,,

So go route for Duke or Kentucky.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: honkytonk on February 24, 2013, 12:09:49 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Marq is a perennial 4th to 9th place team in the big East (except for last year).....

hard to get excited about this team,,,,

How many times have you written this in different threads?

And then you create a new one....?   ?-(
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: marquette09 on February 24, 2013, 12:16:14 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Marq is a perennial 4th to 9th place team in the big East (except for last year).....

hard to get excited about this team,,,,

Also a perennial NCAA tournament team.  It is tough to win on the road.  Take care of business at home next week and everything is fine.   Syracuse is good, but very beatable away from the carrier dome. 

This team is not as good as last year, but I still would not be surprised to see them in the sweet 16.   Hell, the fact that they are more than likely going to finish in the top 4 is remarkable considering what they lost.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: wadesworld on February 24, 2013, 12:20:38 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Marq is a perennial 4th to 9th place team in the big East (except for last year).....

hard to get excited about this team,,,,

Gotta love that we spent a total of 1 year while in the Big East finishing in 9th place (or below...and still went to the S16 that year) so we should include that as part of our "perenial" finishes in the Big East, yet we have also spent a total of 1 year finishing second in the Big East (and are still tied for 2nd this year) yet we should just discount that year like if didn't happen. Solid reasoning!

Anyways...

Good thing it's the last year of the Big East as we know it!

If only we could just be DePaul...
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: TinyTimsLittleBrother on February 24, 2013, 07:46:49 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Marq is a perennial 4th to 9th place team in the big East (except for last year).....

hard to get excited about this team,,,,


I've noticed that you have said this in about three different threads now.

The fact is that the last decade of Marquette basketball is the second best decade ever.  If you can't get exited over that, read a book or something.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 24, 2013, 07:53:00 AM
Quote from: TinyTim on February 24, 2013, 07:46:49 AM

I've noticed that you have said this in about three different threads now.

The fact is that the last decade of Marquette basketball is the second best decade ever.  If you can't get exited over that, read a book or something.

Actually it is worse than that ... Here is what I wrote in the other post ....


http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=36352.msg455722#msg455722


Mad ...

Her are your last three posts ...

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=36353.msg455596#msg455596   
Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2013, 07:57:29 PM »
in reality - MU is a 6th to 9th place Big East team



http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=36352.msg455694#msg455694
Re: Like Buzz says "We aren't very good"
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2013, 10:39:04 PM »
in the end, this is a 5th to 8th place team in the Big East, yet again...


http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=36361.msg455700#msg455700
Lather, rinse, repeat....
« on: February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM »
Marq is a perennial 4th to 9th place team in the big East (except for last year).....
hard to get excited about this team,,,,

--------------------

It appears MU moves up on space every 2.5 hours after a loss.  Is that correct or do I need to do a scatter graph of your predictions over time?

It is 7:40 am right now, that means you have MU finishing between 2nd and 5th and by game time tomorrow night you'll have us winning the conference.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on February 24, 2013, 08:35:30 AM
I find it pretty easy to get excited about this team.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: lab_warrior on February 24, 2013, 09:05:52 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Marq is a perennial 4th to 9th place team in the big East (except for last year).....

hard to get excited about this team,,,,


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Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 24, 2013, 09:08:29 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Marq is a perennial 4th to 9th place team in the big East (except for last year).....

hard to get excited about this team,,,,

Ill say what everyone else is thinking...

You're a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: madtownwarrior on February 24, 2013, 10:15:17 AM
What I should have said MU on average is a tied for fourth or fifth place team with 2 or 3 other teams (even if you average the 2nd and 9th place finishes)

anybody else ever want to see MU win a conference title?   

anybody else tired of MU normally finishing behind the likes of Syracuse, Louisville, Georgetown and usually Pitt, UConn, ND (in the normal years).

MU is a mid-pack Big East team - nothing more, nothing less... 

but hey, we should all celebrate tied for 4th's.... hang a banner for that and give everybody ribbons on this board...

and thanks for the name calling - I do point this out eveyr year if you want to go back the last few years and find my posts...



2012  -  heading for 4 or 5
2011 -  2nd
2010 -   Tied for 9th
2009 -   Tied for 5th
2008 -   5th
2007 -   Tied for 5th
2006 -   Tied for 4th
2005 -   Tied for 4th

Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: TinyTimsLittleBrother on February 24, 2013, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 24, 2013, 10:15:17 AM
anybody else ever want to see MU win a conference title?   

anybody else tired of MU normally finishing behind the likes of Syracuse, Louisville, Georgetown and usually Pitt, UConn, ND (in the normal years).


Yes and yes.

But you specifically said it didn't get you "excited."  Go do something else then.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: DCWarriors04 on February 24, 2013, 10:25:05 AM
Fourth or fifth best team in one of the best and toughest conferences...I'll get excited...and while I wish we could finish in first, it's a lot better than finishing in the bottom 8.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 24, 2013, 10:42:15 AM
Sine the BE went to 16 teams in 2006 ...

* every team had a below .500 season except one ... MU

* only one team made the NCAA every year ... MU
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 24, 2013, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 24, 2013, 10:42:15 AM
Sine the BE went to 16 teams in 2006 ...

* every team had a below .500 season except one ... MU

* only one team made the NCAA every year ... MU

Thank you Buzz Williams and Tom Crean.

We've been very fortunate to have the run we've had in the Big East
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on February 24, 2013, 11:04:10 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Marq is a perennial 4th to 9th place team in the big East (except for last year).....

hard to get excited about this team,,,,

I enjoy watching MU basketball.

Thank God I saw your post and you set me straight.

It's not about enjoyment or entertainment. It's about RESULTS, and if they don't do what I want, I'm going to be UPSET!

WE NEED BETTER PLAYERS!
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: forgetful on February 24, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 24, 2013, 10:15:17 AM
What I should have said MU on average is a tied for fourth or fifth place team with 2 or 3 other teams (even if you average the 2nd and 9th place finishes)

anybody else ever want to see MU win a conference title?   

anybody else tired of MU normally finishing behind the likes of Syracuse, Louisville, Georgetown and usually Pitt, UConn, ND (in the normal years).

MU is a mid-pack Big East team - nothing more, nothing less... 

but hey, we should all celebrate tied for 4th's.... hang a banner for that and give everybody ribbons on this board...

and thanks for the name calling - I do point this out eveyr year if you want to go back the last few years and find my posts...



2012  -  heading for 4 or 5
2011 -  2nd
2010 -   Tied for 9th
2009 -   Tied for 5th
2008 -   5th
2007 -   Tied for 5th
2006 -   Tied for 4th
2005 -   Tied for 4th


You list 6 teams that (in normal years) we finish behind.  But we average right at 4th to 5th place.  That means at most 3-4 teams finish ahead of us (in normal years).  Get your head checked, get some prozac and relax.

Instead of viewing this year as a failure because we lost AT Nova, maybe view it as a success because as late at Feb. 23rd, a team expected to maybe not make the tournament was still leading the Big East.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2013, 11:26:04 AM
We do need better players. Better players would find it easier to win on the road, and upset some teams that are better.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on February 24, 2013, 11:35:00 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2013, 11:26:04 AM
We do need better players. Better players would find it easier to win on the road, and upset some teams that are better.

I'm sick of hear people cry for more talent on the roster. Yes, we lack to BEPOY caliber guys that we have been blessed with in the past five years. But look at the teams we play: they generally go 7-8 deep. Buzz is able to pull full line changes confidently. If Vander continues to develop, Jamil gets even marginally better, and even one of our 5 recruits turns out to be a major contributor, we'll be a menace next season.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: Big Papi on February 24, 2013, 11:36:09 AM
I don't know....back to back sweet 16s was pretty darn exciting.  When was the last time we did that?????????

1977!!

If you are not excited over this program and where we are now compared to where we were over the last 30 years then I think you should find someone else to root for.  Onwards and upwards but elite programs don't become elite over night.  The landscape has over the last 30 years for MU has been littered with NIT appearance or no post season appearances and what maybe two conference titles and you want to gripe and complain when we are sustaining success with winning records, NCAA appearances and Sweet 16 appearances?  No, we can't seem to get over the hump and win a conference title in one of the best conferences around. Yea we are not there yet.  Syracuse, Louisville and Georgetown all recruit consistently better than us but we are on the right track.  Why because we haven't had this much consistent success in a long, long time.  7 straight NCAA appearances, 2 back to back sweet 16 appearances and what looks like an 8th straight appearance.  Sorry if the program doesn't meet up to your standards at this point in time.  

But oh yea, I forgot that we live in the what have you done for me lately, I need instant gratification mode or I have the right to bitch and complain that I deserve better.  This program has clawed its way back from the abyss and everyone would love nothing more then to consistently win conference titles and be National champ contenders every year.  I think we are close.  Great group of players coming back next year and some highly recruited new ones coming in.  Now we just need that one magical run or one player to emerge as a star to get those next level star recruits to seriously look at us like the Looney's of the world.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: Les Nessman on February 24, 2013, 11:38:39 AM
What team on earth doesn't need better players? That argument is such a lazy response to losses.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 24, 2013, 11:39:57 AM
Quote from: tommyc6 on February 24, 2013, 11:38:39 AM
What team on earth doesn't need better players? That argument is such a lazy response to losses.

Not Kentucky!!! ... they have all the best players!
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: lab_warrior on February 24, 2013, 11:57:09 AM
Quote from: tommyc6 on February 24, 2013, 11:38:39 AM
What team on earth doesn't need better players? That argument is such a lazy response to losses.

Agreed, it's becoming another ridiculous cliche
employed by this board. 

Here is a list of the only NCAA basketball
teams that did not need better players:

1956 San Francisco
1957 UNC
1964 UCLA
1967 UCLA
1972 UCLA
1973 UCLA
1976 Indiana
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: tower912 on February 24, 2013, 12:05:55 PM
Lather, rinsing, repeating has made MU the only Big East team to make it to the big dance every year in the 8 we have been in the conference.   It has sent MU to the sweet 16 for the last two years, for the first time since the tourney expanded to 64 (65, 68, whatever).   It has led to national writers, in the last week, singing hosannas toward Buzz for once again getting MU to a very good place this year, despite sending two player to the NBA draft and bringing in no impact players.  (Taylor will be  soon)    So, yes, I like the glistening shine and healthy feeling the lather, rinsing, and repeating gives me.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on February 24, 2013, 07:27:32 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2013, 11:26:04 AM
We do need better players. Better players would find it easier to win on the road, and upset some teams that are better.

At the end of the tournament, there will be approximately 350 programs wishing they had better players and 1 champion.

Saying "we need better players" is the dumbest thing said on this board in a LONG time. Don't defend it.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2013, 07:33:34 PM
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on February 24, 2013, 07:27:32 PM
At the end of the tournament, there will be approximately 350 programs wishing they had better players and 1 champion.

Saying "we need better players" is the dumbest thing said on this board in a LONG time. Don't defend it.



Really, how long you been readin' this board?
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 25, 2013, 10:19:18 PM
Quote from: tower912 on February 24, 2013, 12:05:55 PM
So, yes, I like the glistening shine and healthy feeling the lather, rinsing, and repeating gives me.

Maybe you should try lather, rinse, condition, rinse, repeat then.  Those extra two (4?) steps will take you up a notch.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: MU82 on February 25, 2013, 10:22:40 PM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Marq is a perennial 4th to 9th place team in the big East (except for last year).....

hard to get excited about this team,,,,

I hope you stayed consistent and decided not to get excited at all about this win over Syracuse. It was, after all, a real boring game.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: madtownwarrior on February 25, 2013, 10:58:45 PM
awesome game tonight but that is what is so frustrating - tell me that team that beat Syracuse tonight lost to Villanova on Saturday (who got beat by Seton Hall tonight)


Quote from: MU82 on February 25, 2013, 10:22:40 PM
I hope you stayed consistent and decided not to get excited at all about this win over Syracuse. It was, after all, a real boring game.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 26, 2013, 12:28:48 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 25, 2013, 10:58:45 PM
awesome game tonight but that is what is so frustrating - tell me that team that beat Syracuse tonight lost to Villanova on Saturday (who got beat by Seton Hall tonight)



I think you are missing key things like "lost at seton hall" and "@nova."  Believe it or not, venue matters.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: MUSF on February 26, 2013, 12:32:00 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 25, 2013, 10:58:45 PM
awesome game tonight but that is what is so frustrating - tell me that team that beat Syracuse tonight lost to Villanova on Saturday (who got beat by Seton Hall tonight)



That's the reality of college bball today. I understand the frustration, but you better get used to it if you want to remain a fan of the college game.
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: keefe on February 26, 2013, 12:45:41 AM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 26, 2013, 12:28:48 AM
I think you are missing key things like "lost at seton hall" and "@nova."  Believe it or not, venue matters.

Not for teams with better players!!
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 26, 2013, 12:51:35 AM
Quote from: keefe on February 26, 2013, 12:45:41 AM
Not for teams with better players!!

We must recruit big east veterans for freshman!
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: keefe on February 26, 2013, 02:53:32 AM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 26, 2013, 12:51:35 AM
We must recruit big east veterans for freshman!

Marquette signees include Matt Wesley, Jim Dominic, and Neal McGeral?
Title: Re: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on February 26, 2013, 07:03:22 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 25, 2013, 10:58:45 PM
awesome game tonight but that is what is so frustrating - tell me that team that beat Syracuse tonight lost to Villanova on Saturday (who got beat by Seton Hall tonight)



Just imagine what Cuse fans are thinking.

They had that game in hand... then a 4 pt play from a bench player, the crowd ignites, and MU pulls off the win.

Life on the road is hard. MU showed a lot of toughness tonight, but if they played like that at the Carrier Dome, they would have lost. They needed every bit of energy the crowd was feeding them. It makes a huge difference.

Great crowd and great energy tonight. When Gardner is feeling it, he's really, really tough. Not sure how to light his candle every night, but I'm sure Buzz is working on it.
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