MU up 2 with the ball in a tight game with Devantae on the line. He misses badly on both and MU never really regains footing. In these tight games their is something psychologically huge to get up by more than one possession. Some times teams start to get tight and jack up threes to make up the difference which can lead to a bigger hole.
Nova had their chance to go up by more than one possession and they got a steal and a layup to move the lead to 5 and never looked back. MU started chucking 3s to regain the difference.
Opening tip on national TV
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 23, 2013, 08:16:47 PM
Opening tip on national TV
you forgot the teal......
Funny how ESPN 2 is considered National TV when we lose, yet when we win a game it needed to happen on CBS or it didnt happen.
If we lost to the 1973 UCLA Bruins on Al Jazzera we would be complaining about crapping the bed on national TV
Junior unbelievably/inexcusably/inexplicably missing Wilson or what would have been an automatic two points.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 23, 2013, 08:22:18 PM
Junior unbelievably/inexcusably/inexplicably missing Wilson or what would have been an automatic two points.
Right Wilson slipping on the wet spot on the floor had nothing to do with it. Good PGs can see those wet spots, can anticipate where their players are going to step, the angle of their step, and see the slip coming two steps before it happens and not throw the pass.
Junior cannot do this which is another reason why he is not a good PG.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 23, 2013, 08:26:03 PM
Right Wilson slipping on the wet spot on the floor had nothing to do with it. Good PGs can see those wet spots, can anticipate where their players are going to step, the angle of their step, and see the slip coming two steps before it happens and not throw the pass.
Junior cannot do this which is another reason why he is not a good PG.
Calm down...Already acknowledged in another thread after being educated, that's was watching in a bar with no sound and didnt realize Wison slipped.
I actually thought it was Jamil Wilson being wide open for the three, then he passed it and bounced off the back of Gardner's head. MU was down like three and after that it went downhill. Wilson should have taken that shot.
Quote from: nyg on February 23, 2013, 08:31:12 PM
I actually thought it was Jamil Wilson being wide open for the three, then he passed it and bounced off the back of Gardner's head. MU was down like three and after that it went downhill. Wilson should have taken that shot.
Ding ding ding we have a winner. WTF was Jamil thinking? Then he proceeds to chuck up 3 horrible 3's post shot/pass!
Quote from: nyg on February 23, 2013, 08:31:12 PM
I actually thought it was Jamil Wilson being wide open for the three, then he passed it and bounced off the back of Gardner's head. MU was down like three and after that it went downhill. Wilson should have taken that shot.
That was big, but you have to be ready for that ball. Junior turning it over trying to split a double team with MU down 3, which promptly turned into down 5 was also big. Too many boners plain and simple. MU was frustrated by Villanova's D, and it showed.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 23, 2013, 08:28:57 PM
Calm down...Already acknowledged in another thread after being educated, that's was watching in a bar with no sound and didnt realize Wison slipped.
So all of your analysis is based on what you saw half buzzed in a crowded bar? You know what this means ... You have now assumed the spot previously occupied by BMA725 as the most insightful person on this board.
I don't know about turning point, but when those two plays happen in close conjunction in a road game, the universe is saying that MU isn't going to win this game.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 23, 2013, 08:34:29 PM
So all of your analysis is based on what you saw half buzzed in a crowded bar? You know what this means ... You have now assumed the spot previously occupied by BMA725 as the most insightful person on this board.
Dude, wake up on the wrong side of the bed, or what? Excuse me for living. I could be blind ass drunk in bar, and would still be able to recognize those plays were key to the final outcome, regardless of who was responsible. Get over yourself.
When Joe the bracketoligy dude came on and spent 5 minutes talking about Miami and Iliininois and the announcers simply ignored that Villanova was taking the game over. Inept and embarrassing.
Navin is right - the attempt by Junior to dribble through two guys was the clincher - hit one's foot, turnover, insurmountable lead (considering our O).
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 23, 2013, 08:40:02 PM
Dude, wake up on the wrong side of the bed, or what? Excuse me for living. I could be blind ass drunk in bar, and would still be able to recognize those plays were key to the final outcome, regardless of who was responsible. Get over yourself.
Relax, nothing posted on this board in the first 24 hours after a loss is worth anything, including my posts.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on February 23, 2013, 08:18:54 PM
you forgot the teal......
If we lost to the 1973 UCLA Bruins on Al Jazzera we would be complaining about crapping the bed on national TV
INTERNATIONAL TV. How bad would we be there?
Quote from: mr.MUskie on February 23, 2013, 08:53:31 PM
INTERNATIONAL TV. How bad would we be there?
How do you spell MU Avenue in Arabic?
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 23, 2013, 08:55:20 PM
How do you spell MU Avenue in Arabic?
per google translate, MU الجادة
When Villanova took a 5 point lead, we were done.
Quote from: ATWizJr on February 23, 2013, 09:24:03 PM
When Villanova took a 5 point lead, we were done.
At 12-7?
Quote from: mr.MUskie on February 23, 2013, 08:53:31 PM
INTERNATIONAL TV. How bad would we be there?
In the old days of the big satellite TV (80's) that would be able to get a buddy sitcom from Pakistan tuned to your TV, MU would have lost to Centenarry by 45
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 23, 2013, 09:26:34 PM
At 12-7?
Nah. late in the second half. We looked unprepared for the press and the aggressive man defense. Trap game?
No real turning point. We played incredibly dumb down the stretch. 'Nova was not all that good tonight, we simply failed time and time again to capitalize. First time in Big East play we lost to an inferior opponent. Disappointed, was eying this game since Jan 26 as the possible difference-maker in winning the league. Need to rebound with a win Monday. If we don't win out, no chance of winning the league outright.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 23, 2013, 09:39:47 PM
No real turning point.
This. Basically two dozen terrible offensive possessions. Turning points other listed were some of the more egregious ones, but no single one was THE turning point.
The sky rebound/travel call on Lockett sucked...
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on February 23, 2013, 08:14:06 PM
Nova had their chance to go up by more than one possession and they got a steal and a layup to move the lead to 5 and never looked back. MU started chucking 3s to regain the difference.
This stretch did us in. Went 2 1/2 minutes with a less than ideal lineup on the floor waiting for the under-8 media timeout. Instead of attacking which would have hopefully led to a whistle we chucked bad 3s and live action points at the other end which is when the lead extended out of reach. Only had two timeouts at that point, so we needed play to stop.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on February 23, 2013, 08:14:06 PM
MU up 2 with the ball in a tight game with Devantae on the line. He misses badly on both and MU never really regains footing. In these tight games their is something psychologically huge to get up by more than one possession. Some times teams start to get tight and jack up threes to make up the difference which can lead to a bigger hole.
Nova had their chance to go up by more than one possession and they got a steal and a layup to move the lead to 5 and never looked back. MU started chucking 3s to regain the difference.
Yeah, stuff like this happens, particularly on the road. Our 85% FT shooter big man misses both his free throws and their 40% FT shooter big man, hits both of his, including the front end of the one-and-one. Those 4 points are the difference.
We were lost from the start IMO. The body language looked like no confidence to me. In addition, when we get in rut with the horrible dribble around half court offense we have hard time shaking out of it.
Quote from: nyg on February 23, 2013, 08:31:12 PM
I actually thought it was Jamil Wilson being wide open for the three, then he passed it and bounced off the back of Gardner's head. MU was down like three and after that it went downhill. Wilson should have taken that shot.
This is what I felt too. Maybe not turning point, but the biggest spot. Momentum that seemed to be swinging back MU's way died right there.