http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2013
JJJ - 26
Deonte Burton - 49
Duane Wilson - 55
Embiid at 28.
Wisconsin has Nigel Hayes at 85.
Matt Thomas at 51.
Luke Fischer at 67.
JJJ is up to #26? Wow. :)
Also named as one of the five recruits whose stock is rising:
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8942911/five-basketball-recruits-stock-rose-updated-espn-100 (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8942911/five-basketball-recruits-stock-rose-updated-espn-100)
"JaJuan Johnson (Memphis, Tenn./Southwind)
Old Rank: No. 64
New Rank: No. 26
Signed with Marquette
Johnson is an athletic blend of a small forward and shooting guard who uses a low shoulder and quick first step to create his own shot. He runs the lane and knows how to get to the rim and finish in transition, which is one of his major strengths. Over the course of his senior year he has added reliability to his perimeter jumper to keep defenses honest. He plays with great energy and is working on his defense to apply pressure and become a complete player."
What were their previous ranks (besides JJJ)?
By my rough tallies...
SEC: 19
Current Big East: 18
ACC:12
Big 10: 12
Big 12: 11
Pac 12: 9
C7 + Xavier: 9
Other: 13
Also of note is that of the C7 + Xavier, MU has the top three recruits of the group. It will be interesting to see going forward how any of the conference realignment impacts recruiting, if at all.
MU up to #10 in ESPN's class rankings, which don't even consider Jameel McKay. Not bad, my friends.
I find it interesting that the #1 recruit has only made one official visit, and another guy in the top 50 hasn't made any at all. Is that common by mid-February of one's graduation year?
Awesome to see JJJ rising - late risers almost always turn out well. Which is why losing out on Embiid will haunt me for years.... <shivers> oh what could have been!
Watched #2 Findlay Prep beat #1 Montverde on the tube a few weeks back and was stunned that Nigel Goss-Williams was rated behind Stanford Robinson (#70 to Robinson's 56) on his own team. Robinson was OK, Goss-Williams was the best player on the floor. Well Goss-Williams is up to #20 and Robinson is at #98. Somebody at ESPN is paying attention.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on February 13, 2013, 12:14:31 PM
Awesome to see JJJ rising - late risers almost always turn out well. Which is why losing out on Embiid will haunt me for years.... <shivers> oh what could have been!
Right now we have the #4 SG, the #10 SF and the #13 PG in addition to a juco AA power forward and a borderline top 100 PG. Embid is rated the #2 C, and, like JJJ, is rising. What is is awesome, what might have been is off the charts.
Great to hear about JJJ. I Feel like it's been awhile since we've had a recruit who actually has a reliable outside shot.
Quote from: MisterDMU on February 13, 2013, 11:47:14 AM
Also named as one of the five recruits whose stock is rising:
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8942911/five-basketball-recruits-stock-rose-updated-espn-100 (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8942911/five-basketball-recruits-stock-rose-updated-espn-100)
"JaJuan Johnson (Memphis, Tenn./Southwind)
Old Rank: No. 64
New Rank: No. 26
Signed with Marquette
Johnson is an athletic blend of a small forward and shooting guard who uses a low shoulder and quick first step to create his own shot. He runs the lane and knows how to get to the rim and finish in transition, which is one of his major strengths. Over the course of his senior year he has added reliability to his perimeter jumper to keep defenses honest. He plays with great energy and is working on his defense to apply pressure and become a complete player."
Could we have a burger boy?
Quote from: warriorchick on February 13, 2013, 12:10:22 PM
I find it interesting that the #1 recruit has only made one official visit, and another guy in the top 50 hasn't made any at all. Is that common by mid-February of one's graduation year?
Andrew Wiggins reclassified to 2013 in late October. Unique case. But, everyone is different.
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 13, 2013, 12:35:40 PM
Could we have a burger boy?
If he had signed with Duke, MSU, UNC, Kentucky or Kansas...yes. MU? No.
Awesome class. I can't wait for these guys to hit campus.
Even though I try not to get hung up on missed recruits, it is hard not to think about what adding Embiid would have done. But I'm assuming his huge jump in the rankings is partly based on him signing with Kansas. He also said he was focused on developing into an NBA player and not concerned about playing time, which makes me think he will leave as soon as possible.
Glad we're steppin' up from mid-major players. Still need a stud in the middle to do some real damage.
Get that aircraft carrier, Buzz!
Quote from: warriorchick on February 13, 2013, 12:10:22 PM
I find it interesting that the #1 recruit has only made one official visit, and another guy in the top 50 hasn't made any at all. Is that common by mid-February of one's graduation year?
This is
usually an indicator of academic troubles.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 13, 2013, 01:09:16 PM
Glad we're steppin' up from mid-major players. Still need a stud in the middle to do some real damage.
Doc - Have you seen any of the Milwaukee kids play? If so, what's your take?
While it doesn't really mean anything at all yet, Diamond fell to #2 in class of 2015.
Diamond Stone "dominates the game as a sophomore. He could be in the senior class and still be one of the best post players. Diamond Stone is the man. He is unstoppable physically and skill wise around the basket."
---Paul Biancardi of ESPN
I've seen both Burton and Wilson, but not McKay. Although, I have gotten a very positive report on McKay from another Milwaukee player who has played with/against him in the park.
IMO, both Burton and Wilson should contribute immediately. Certainly, from a defensive viewpoint, Burton is very solid and has a big time college physique. Shot is a little unpredictable, but will mix it up inside. At around 6'5", though, he'll have to develop his J.
Bottom line: I like him a lot and he's Buzz' type of player. Expect him to make his mark at MU.
While Duane Wilson is not a pass first point guard, I'd love to see Buzz give him the rock from day one and fly with him. More upside than any guard on the current roster. Probably needs to get stronger, but I think there's room in his body for that. Seems to like to push the ball up the court, is an adequate defender and passer.
Bottom line: he's better overall than Derrick and, to me, a big improvement over Jr. for what I look for in a point guard. Can also play the 2 guard.
Thanks. Next year should be interesting on many levels.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 13, 2013, 01:45:28 PM
IMO, both Burton and Wilson should contribute immediately. Certainly, from a defensive viewpoint, Burton is very solid and has a big time college physique. Shot is a little unpredictable, but will mix it up inside. At around 6'5", though, he'll have to develop his J.
Bottom line: I like him a lot and he's Buzz' type of player. Expect him to make his mark at MU.
While Duane Wilson is not a pass first point guard, I'd love to see Buzz give him the rock from day one and fly with him. More upside than any guard on the current roster. Probably needs to get stronger, but I think there's room in his body for that. Seems to like to push the ball up the court, is an adequate defender and passer.
Bottom line: he's better overall than Derrick and, to me, a big improvement over Jr. for what I look for in a point guard. Can also play the 2 guard.
Have seen both of them, and agree with 4ever. Deonte needs to tighten up a few things, but he has the most college ready body since Wesley. Very impressive instincts on the floor.
I've gushed enough about Wilson on here, but that cat can ball, and I love his mindset. I'd be very comfortable handing him the keys, like I was with Dominic as a freshman.
Duane Wilson should be given the keys on day one.
I very much look forward to the day in 2 years when, after a lackluster performance, we start throwing all these guys under the bus and start crowing about how great our next incoming class is and how they are ready to play from day one and they should be starting over the guys we currently have.
That will be great.
Atl Warrior
I hope we have an even higher rated recruiting class two years from now to be excited about. As for me, I believe PG is most important position in game today and our two guys are not up to the task. That is shame on Buzz not the kids.
If folks here didn't keep mentioning Embiid, I wouldn't even think about him for 1 second. He made his choice, and it sounds like we have a lot of good kids coming in.
Me being full of regret -- especially about something so out of my control -- would be wasted energy.
Thrilled by the class Buzz is bringing in. Not even the least bit concerned/saddened/lamenting that, um, what's-his-name is going elsewhere.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 13, 2013, 02:28:33 PM
I very much look forward to the day in 2 years when, after a lackluster performance, we start throwing all these guys under the bus and start crowing about how great our next incoming class is and how they are ready to play from day one and they should be starting over the guys we currently have.
That will be great.
Anticipation that something better is around the corner is humanity's best coping mechanism. And every once in a while, you're actually right! Here's hoping.
I think this is great and everything but we really shouldn't get our hopes too high right? I mean think of all the four stars that haven't panned out right away or at all Erik Williams, and Jamail Jones are the two that spring right to mind. But if we don't stroke their egos (Jeronne Maymonn) they may transfer and it'll be hard to do that with all the experience we have next year. And I mean it's even arguable that Juan Anderson, Jamil Wilson and Junior aren't all that we thought they would be by now. So let's wait till they get on the court even though I do have higher hopes for these guys than the others.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 13, 2013, 02:46:13 PM
Anticipation that something better is around the corner is humanity's best coping mechanism. And every once in a while, you're actually right! Here's hoping.
True enough.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 13, 2013, 02:28:33 PM
I very much look forward to the day in 2 years when, after a lackluster performance, we start throwing all these guys under the bus and start crowing about how great our next incoming class is and how they are ready to play from day one and they should be starting over the guys we currently have.
That will be great.
If they don't win on the road against a ranked opponent, they don't have balls.
That's all you need to know.
Truthfully, I
hope they come in a tear it up.
But, even without them, I like next year's roster. Not a ton of holes. If everybody gets a little better, they could win the conference.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on February 13, 2013, 04:20:55 PM
If they don't win on the road against a ranked opponent, they don't have balls.
That's all you need to know.
When do they become choking dogs that pee themselves?
Quote from: Pakuni on February 13, 2013, 04:35:24 PM
When to they become choking dogs that pee themselves?
When they are seniors.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 13, 2013, 01:09:16 PM
Glad we're steppin' up from mid-major players. Still need a stud in the middle to do some real damage.
+1
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 13, 2013, 02:28:33 PM
I very much look forward to the day in 2 years when, after a lackluster performance, we start throwing all these guys under the bus and start crowing about how great our next incoming class is and how they are ready to play from day one and they should be starting over the guys we currently have.
That will be great.
You mean when Diamond Stone signs with two other two top 50 guys to go with next year's class and Kevon Looney?
Quote from: Groin_pull on February 13, 2013, 12:41:55 PM
If he had signed with Duke, MSU, UNC, Kentucky or Kansas...yes. MU? No.
Shouldn't It's Indiana It's Indiana be on that List of Exalted Ones?
Next years class is very big jump on the recruiting class in regards to talent level. The key is saving multiple studs coming in. Everyone was excited with this class early on and have been looking forward to next year for quite some time. I cannot wait to see the new guys on campus.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 13, 2013, 01:50:03 PM
Thanks. Next year should be interesting on many levels.
+1
If we can get through the early part of the season with the seniors carrying us while the youngsters get their feet wet, could be a really fun year. I'm assuming in this that Blue comes back and see absolutely no realistic reason he would leave.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2013, 06:19:02 PM
+1
If we can get through the early part of the season with the seniors carrying us while the youngsters get their feet wet, could be a really fun year. I'm assuming in this that Blue comes back and see absolutely no realistic reason he would leave.
Blue ain't going anywhere unless he wants to see Europe.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2013, 06:19:02 PM
+1
If we can get through the early part of the season with the seniors carrying us while the youngsters get their feet wet, could be a really fun year. I'm assuming in this that Blue comes back and see absolutely no realistic reason he would leave.
Blue has made major strides this season, but without a decent jumper, he's not sniffing the NBA.
What was the deal with JJJ and Southwind about a week ago?
Was he unhappy? Did he leave the team? Did he rejoin them?
Quote from: keefe on February 13, 2013, 06:21:26 PM
Blue ain't going anywhere unless he wants to see Europe.
I don't disagree, but there are more than a few folks here a few weeks ago that feel differently.
Quote from: Groin_pull on February 13, 2013, 06:31:13 PM
Blue has made major strides this season, but without a decent jumper, he's not sniffing the NBA.
Blue HAS a decent jumper. The reason he's improved his 3P% and mid-range shot is because he's improved his jumper. He rises and releases at the peak of his jump now. He is showing consistency in his release unlike previous years when he would figure out how to throw it up after he was in the air. Yes, he still has the kick, but anyone who can't see the immense strides he's made this year from range and not just at the rim isn't watching Marquette games.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 13, 2013, 05:01:48 PM
You mean when Diamond Stone signs with two other two top 50 guys to go with next year's class and Kevon Looney?
No. I honestly don't think it matters who the next recruits are. Regardless of who they are, they'll be seen by many as a huge improvement over the guys on the team that just laid an egg (probably on National TV).
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2013, 07:24:40 PM
I don't disagree, but there are more than a few folks here a few weeks ago that feel differently.
Honestly, I don't think Blue will go this year, but it would be more wise for him if he wants to be a pro. This years draft class absolutely blows. He might sneak in. You look at Blue's senior year draft class, you're looking at Wiggins and that entire Kentucky team. Maybe even Jabari Parker or Nerlens Noel. That class, looking at it now, is absolutely stacked. I don't think he will leave, as he can still improve, but if he wants to go pro, it'll be "easier" this year as opposed to next year.