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Title: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 11, 2013, 02:02:24 PM
Flipping through the media guide they had this on page 23

http://issuu.com/marquettesid/docs/mubb_guide_2012-13

All-Time Leaders

Vertical Jump      Dominic James          36.5"
25-Yard Dash      Dominic James          2.93 seconds
Pro-Agility           Vander Blue            3.85 seconds
Pro-Lane Agility   Wes Matthews         10.14 seconds
Squat                Dominic James          484 Pounds
Clean                Chris Otule                300 Pounds
Chin-up             Wes Matthews           41
185 Reps           David Diggs/Lazard Hayward  26

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That is all it said.  I'm not sure what a Pro-Agility drill is, Or a Pro-Lane Agility drill.  Also I assume 185 reps is bench press reps.  I assume "clean" is short for "clean and jerk weight lift (from the floor to over your head in two motions).

To me, the most surprising on the list is Otule.  For a 7 footer to clean 300 pounds is amazing.

Thoughts?

P.S.  I assume the data do not go back that far but I can imagine that Faisal Abraham, with his arms, would have held some of these records.

Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 02:06:00 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 11, 2013, 02:02:24 PM
Flipping through the media guide they had this on page 23

http://issuu.com/marquettesid/docs/mubb_guide_2012-13

All-Time Leaders

Vertical Jump      Dominic James          36.5"
25-Yard Dash      Dominic James          2.93 seconds
Pro-Agility           Vander Blue            3.85 seconds
Pro-Lane Agility   Wes Matthews         10.14 seconds
Squat                Dominic James          484 Pounds
Clean                Chris Otule                300 Pounds
Chin-up             Wes Matthews           41
185 Reps           David Diggs/Lazard Hayward  26

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That is all it said.  I'm not sure what a Pro-Agility drill is, Or a Pro-Lane Agility drill.  Also I assume 185 reps is bench press reps.  I assume "clean" is short for "clean and jerk weight lift (from the floor to over your head in two motions).

To me, the most surprising on the list is Otule.  For a 7 footer to clean 300 pounds is amazing.

Thoughts?

P.S.  I assume the data do not go back that far but I can imagine that Faisal Abraham, with his arms, would have held some of these records.



My only thought was did D Wade opt out of all drills?
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 11, 2013, 02:06:46 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 02:06:00 PM
My only thought was did D Wade opt out of all drills?

Did not say when they started but I'm guessing they are since the Al was opened.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS on February 11, 2013, 02:08:13 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 11, 2013, 02:02:24 PM
Flipping through the media guide they had this on page 23

http://issuu.com/marquettesid/docs/mubb_guide_2012-13

All-Time Leaders

Vertical Jump      Dominic James          36.5"
25-Yard Dash      Dominic James          2.93 seconds
Pro-Agility           Vander Blue            3.85 seconds
Pro-Lane Agility   Wes Matthews         10.14 seconds
Squat                Dominic James          484 Pounds
Clean                Chris Otule                300 Pounds
Chin-up             Wes Matthews           41
185 Reps           David Diggs/Lazard Hayward  26

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That is all it said.  I'm not sure what a Pro-Agility drill is, Or a Pro-Lane Agility drill.  Also I assume 185 reps is bench press reps.  I assume "clean" is short for "clean and jerk weight lift (from the floor to over your head in two motions).

To me, the most surprising on the list is Otule.  For a 7 footer to clean 300 pounds is amazing.

Thoughts?

P.S.  I assume the data do not go back that far but I can imagine that Faisal Abraham, with his arms, would have held some of these records.


some amazing numbers..
Honestly I would have thought others as well As Dominic would have had more than a 36 inch verticle.  Didnt DJO have 38 or 41 at the NBA combine?

edit

41 chin-ups for a guy that is 6'5" and over 200lbs is freaking amazing!
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 11, 2013, 02:09:05 PM
Last I checked I could do 3 chin-ups.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 02:14:21 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 11, 2013, 02:06:46 PM
Did not say when they started but I'm guessing they are since the Al was opened.

David Diggs is pre-Al, pre-Wade.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: jficke13 on February 11, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
I was just going to say that the 41 chin up reps might be the most impressive.

It's amazing to think of how good of athletes some of these guys are. Dominic James and Wes were off the charts athletes.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: lab_warrior on February 11, 2013, 02:59:07 PM
Very surprised Faisal Abraham is not on here.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: AZWarrior on February 11, 2013, 03:02:07 PM
I think it would be incredibly cool if player Senior stats vs their Frosh stats were available.  That way we could see the difference that Todd's strength training made.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 11, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on February 11, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
I was just going to say that the 41 chin up reps might be the most impressive.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-3000/most-consecutive-chin-ups/


Lee Chin-Yong (Korea), achieved 612 chin-ups at Jongmyo Park, Seoul, South Korea on 29 December 1994. Aged 70, he completed them in 2 hr 40 min.

Palms faced outwards.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Mufflers on February 11, 2013, 03:07:27 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 02:14:21 PM
David Diggs is pre-Al, pre-Wade.

They probably had a couple measures in the Diggs days and added more in recent years.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Skatastrophy on February 11, 2013, 03:31:07 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 02:14:21 PM
David Diggs is pre-Al, pre-Wade.

Diggs was there while Wade was there, iirc.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: JD on February 11, 2013, 03:32:00 PM
I've noticed all of the records are held by guys post the year 2000.  When some of the "seasoned" vets bring up BO Ellis, doc rivers, etc playing, they say how dominant they were, and how special it was to watch them play.

I'm only 24 so i didn't get the opportunity to watch the Al days, my question is, do you think a team with the newer generation players (Lazar, Dominic, Dwight, etc) would dominate the older generation if they were in their prime?  It seems that athletes today are more explosive, better conditioned, have more advantages, etc.  

Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Dawson Rental on February 11, 2013, 04:08:01 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 11, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-3000/most-consecutive-chin-ups/


Lee Chin-Yong (Korea), achieved 612 chin-ups at Jongmyo Park, Seoul, South Korea on 29 December 1994. Aged 70, he completed them in 2 hr 40 min.

Palms faced outwards.


Well, sure.... I mean he's got chin in his name for cripesakes.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Dawson Rental on February 11, 2013, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 11, 2013, 02:09:05 PM
Last I checked I could do 3 chin-ups.

We're not talking stein to chin here.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: GGGG on February 11, 2013, 04:10:39 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 11, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-3000/most-consecutive-chin-ups/


Lee Chin-Yong (Korea), achieved 612 chin-ups at Jongmyo Park, Seoul, South Korea on 29 December 1994. Aged 70, he completed them in 2 hr 40 min.

Palms faced outwards.



Palms facing outwards = pull up.  Facing inwards = chin up.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: GGGG on February 11, 2013, 04:14:53 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 11, 2013, 02:02:24 PM
Flipping through the media guide they had this on page 23

http://issuu.com/marquettesid/docs/mubb_guide_2012-13

All-Time Leaders

Vertical Jump      Dominic James          36.5"
25-Yard Dash      Dominic James          2.93 seconds
Pro-Agility           Vander Blue            3.85 seconds
Pro-Lane Agility   Wes Matthews         10.14 seconds
Squat                Dominic James          484 Pounds
Clean                Chris Otule                300 Pounds
Chin-up             Wes Matthews           41
185 Reps           David Diggs/Lazard Hayward  26

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That is all it said.  I'm not sure what a Pro-Agility drill is, Or a Pro-Lane Agility drill.  Also I assume 185 reps is bench press reps.  I assume "clean" is short for "clean and jerk weight lift (from the floor to over your head in two motions).

To me, the most surprising on the list is Otule.  For a 7 footer to clean 300 pounds is amazing.


A "clean" would mean only getting it to the first position on your shoulders.  The "jerk" is from the shoulders to above your head.

A 484 pound squat is pretty damn impressive for DJ.  That is probably why he also has the vertical he does because a squat is almost all legs.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: copious1218 on February 11, 2013, 04:16:08 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 11, 2013, 02:02:24 PM
I assume "clean" is short for "clean and jerk weight lift (from the floor to over your head in two motions).


NM, Sultan beat me to it.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Sir Lawrence on February 11, 2013, 04:21:20 PM
Anyone know how many chin-ups Davante can manage?
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Abode4life on February 11, 2013, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 11, 2013, 02:02:24 PM
Flipping through the media guide they had this on page 23

http://issuu.com/marquettesid/docs/mubb_guide_2012-13

All-Time Leaders

Vertical Jump      Dominic James          36.5"
25-Yard Dash      Dominic James          2.93 seconds
Pro-Agility           Vander Blue            3.85 seconds
Pro-Lane Agility   Wes Matthews         10.14 seconds
Squat                Dominic James          484 Pounds
Clean                Chris Otule                300 Pounds
Chin-up             Wes Matthews           41
185 Reps           David Diggs/Lazard Hayward  26

----------

That is all it said.  I'm not sure what a Pro-Agility drill is, Or a Pro-Lane Agility drill.  Also I assume 185 reps is bench press reps.  I assume "clean" is short for "clean and jerk weight lift (from the floor to over your head in two motions).

To me, the most surprising on the list is Otule.  For a 7 footer to clean 300 pounds is amazing.

Thoughts?

P.S.  I assume the data do not go back that far but I can imagine that Faisal Abraham, with his arms, would have held some of these records.



I also agree with Sultan's assessment of a Clean.  Usually thats called a Power Clean to differentiate from a clean and jerk (lifting over your head).

The difference between the pro agility and lane pro agility, is pro agility is run one way to your side, then come back the other side the same difference, and finish in the middle.  Lane Agility is running around the bball lane twice (i believe).
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 11, 2013, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: AZWarrior on February 11, 2013, 03:02:07 PM
I think it would be incredibly cool if player Senior stats vs their Frosh stats were available.  That way we could see the difference that Todd's strength training made.
Lazar's freshman v senior #s were in the media guide a few years back. His improvement was inhuman, but I don't recall particulars
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: warrior_rugby15 on February 11, 2013, 05:47:19 PM
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 11, 2013, 03:32:00 PM
I've noticed all of the records are held by guys post the year 2000.  When some of the "seasoned" vets bring up BO Ellis, doc rivers, etc playing, they say how dominant they were, and how special it was to watch them play.

I'm only 24 so i didn't get the opportunity to watch the Al days, my question is, do you think a team with the newer generation players (Lazar, Dominic, Dwight, etc) would dominate the older generation if they were in their prime?  It seems that athletes today are more explosive, better conditioned, have more advantages, etc.  



Imagine if those athletes in the 70's had the same conditioning, weight lifting programs, and supplements available today?
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 11, 2013, 06:49:11 PM
Quote from: warrior_rugby15 on February 11, 2013, 05:47:19 PM
Imagine if those athletes in the 70's had the same conditioning, weight lifting programs, and supplements available today?

What are saying Lance (Armstrong)?
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 11, 2013, 06:56:55 PM
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on February 11, 2013, 04:21:20 PM
Anyone know how many chin-ups Davante can manage?

Probably more than 90% of this board.

I can do 7-8 on a good day.  My johnson gets in the way though.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: muwarrior97 on February 11, 2013, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 11, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-3000/most-consecutive-chin-ups/


Lee Chin-Yong (Korea), achieved 612 chin-ups at Jongmyo Park, Seoul, South Korea on 29 December 1994. Aged 70, he completed them in 2 hr 40 min.

Palms faced outwards.

Yeah but how's his J?
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: AZWarrior on February 11, 2013, 07:45:23 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 11, 2013, 05:08:06 PM
Lazar's freshman v senior #s were in the media guide a few years back. His improvement was inhuman, but I don't recall particulars

I think that's one of the things to stress (and I imagine Buzz and co. do) to recruits, that they will leave MU with an NBA-ready body.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: GGGG on February 11, 2013, 07:55:09 PM
Quote from: AZWarrior on February 11, 2013, 07:45:23 PM
I think that's one of the things to stress (and I imagine Buzz and co. do) to recruits, that they will leave MU with an NBA-ready body.

Pretty much commonplace at most D1 programs these days. 
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 11, 2013, 09:45:18 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 11, 2013, 02:09:05 PM
Last I checked I could do 3 chin-ups.


In a row?
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: warrior_rugby15 on February 13, 2013, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 11, 2013, 06:49:11 PM
What are saying Lance (Armstrong)?

I think anyone would be naive for anyone to think that college players (or any MU players) don't do any PEDs. I know that they get tested, but from what I read the NCAA drug testing is a joke and I doubt they do blood testing.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Henry Sugar on February 13, 2013, 03:56:11 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 04:14:53 PM

A "clean" would mean only getting it to the first position on your shoulders.  The "jerk" is from the shoulders to above your head.


Just because I follow MU S&C on facebook, it annoys me that they constantly mislabel their Snatch and Clean results. They just posted an update to the MBB Snatch record that was actually a hang power snatch. I would expect the S&C program to use the right terminology.

I'm guessing the Clean listed in this record is probably a power clean.

Glad I got that off my chest.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 13, 2013, 04:04:54 PM
Quote from: Warrior's Path on February 13, 2013, 03:56:11 PM
Just because I follow MU S&C on facebook, it annoys me that they constantly mislabel their Snatch and Clean results. They just posted an update to the MBB Snatch record that was actually a hang power snatch. I would expect the S&C program to use the right terminology.

I'm guessing the Clean listed in this record is probably a power clean.

Glad I got that off my chest.

Can you copy the records here?
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: Henry Sugar on February 13, 2013, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 13, 2013, 04:04:54 PM
Can you copy the records here?

I don't know if this will work or not
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=427503623996377

(Hang Power) Snatch record is 80 kg by Garrett Swanson. Clean record is listed above.

A lot of the videos they post are for the other programs (WBB, Lax, etc)
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 13, 2013, 05:59:55 PM
Back in the day I think the MU record for Snatch was around 3 in a day. Of course, that was prior to coed dorms.
Title: Re: MU Basketball Strength and Conditioning Records
Post by: keefe on February 13, 2013, 06:20:13 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 11, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-3000/most-consecutive-chin-ups/


Lee Chin-Yong (Korea), achieved 612 chin-ups at Jongmyo Park, Seoul, South Korea on 29 December 1994. Aged 70, he completed them in 2 hr 40 min.



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