1) Some have been harping at how Syracuse and Louisville are so much head and shoulders above the rest of the league, and that MU isn't close to their level. Interesting Cuse had to rally from behind at home to squeak out a win against UC - albeit with Cashmere Wright contributing a a 2-13 performance from the field.
2) Texas is 0-5 in Big 12 play thus far...yes...that is making me paranoid.
IMO, don't waste your paranoia on Texas....I think Barnes is safe. Use it on Mizzou.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
IMO, don't waste your paranoia on Texas....I think Barnes is safe. Use it on Mizzou.
Im getting annoyed with Barnes in the same way that I was annoyed with Norv Turner for so long. It's clear he sucks but somehow manages to fool just enough people to keep his job for another year...and then another year...and then another year.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
IMO, don't waste your paranoia on Texas....I think Barnes is safe. Use it on Mizzou.
That's the barrel we're scraping this year? Missouri?
Quote from: Benny B on January 22, 2013, 12:22:37 PM
That's the barrel we're scraping this year? Missouri?
No game this week. Might as well start early.
Quote from: Ners on January 22, 2013, 12:02:42 PM
1) Some have been harping at how Syracuse and Louisville are so much head and shoulders above the rest of the league, and that MU isn't close to their level. Interesting Cuse had to rally from behind at home to squeak out a win against UC - albeit with Cashmere Wright contributing a a 2-13 performance from the field.
Just because UL lost at home doesnt make them a bad team. Their only two losses come from 2 top 5 teams. They have also won every one of their games convincingly (the UK game was no contest for the first 35 minutes but the final score makes it look like a closer contest than it really was).
I am not as high on SU as some people on this board. While it did seem to take a miracle to beat UC, they did manage to beat the No. 1 team in the country on the road...and without one of their best players. UC zoned them almost the entire game. Without Southerland, I think they are vulnerable since they cant consistently hit from 3. If he comes back, they will have an answer for a zone. I also think you are ignoring that we have struggled for long periods of time in a lot of our wins (unlike UL). SHU had 7 scholarship players and a walk-on and they made it a game on the road.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
IMO, don't waste your paranoia on Texas....I think Barnes is safe. Use it on Mizzou.
Would Mizzou really be a step up? I can understand a jump to Texas but why Mizzou?
It would be a complete slap in the face to Marquette's program and its fans if Buzz left for Missouri. Missouri?! C'mon. If Buzz leaves, he will do better than that.
Quote from: MARQ_13 on January 22, 2013, 12:55:18 PM
It would be a complete slap in the face to Marquette's program and its fans if Buzz left for Missouri. Missouri?! C'mon. If Buzz leaves, he will do better than that.
Is Mizzou a basketball school or a football school? I want to say, "neither." Strange fans.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
IMO, don't waste your paranoia on Texas....I think Barnes is safe. Use it on Mizzou.
Why Mizzou? Are you just messing with us since Haith seems to be on his way out?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 22, 2013, 12:59:39 PM
Why Mizzou? Are you just messing with us since Haith seems to be on his way out?
Yes.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
IMO, don't waste your paranoia on Texas....I think Barnes is safe. Use it on Mizzou.
+1 on Texas.
Barnes has earned some rope to hang himself with. After years and years of good teams, to can Barnes after one year of struggle speaks volumes about why you do not want to go to Texas ... you'll be out in two years if you don't get things turned around real fast.
Barnes is not going anywhere unless he wants out.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
IMO, don't waste your paranoia on Texas....I think Barnes is safe. Use it on Mizzou.
Buzz did serve a 1 game suspension this year. Doesn't make him a dirty coach, but might be enough to keep Mizzou away.
Quote from: LAZER on January 22, 2013, 01:49:33 PM
Buzz did serve a 1 game suspension this year. Doesn't make him a dirty coach, but might be enough to keep Mizzou away.
Seeing they hired Snyder and Haith it may make them MORE interested. :D
Quote from: LAZER on January 22, 2013, 01:49:33 PM
Buzz did serve a 1 game suspension this year. Doesn't make him a dirty coach, but might be enough to keep Mizzou away.
Now there's an intriguing strategy...dirty Buzz up a little....
Oh, wait, that would actually making him MORE attractive to some schools....
Texas would be crazy to can barnes. This years team has a lot of extenuating circumstances, and texas has made 14 straight NCAA tourneys.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 22, 2013, 02:12:06 PM
Now there's an intriguing strategy...dirty Buzz up a little....
Oh, wait, that would actually making him MORE attractive to some schools....
Yeah... just like the one that hired our last head coach.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
IMO, don't waste your paranoia on Texas....I think Barnes is safe. Use it on Mizzou.
Texas is a football school first and foremost.
Quote from: boyonthedock on January 22, 2013, 02:14:13 PM
Texas would be crazy to can barnes. This years team has a lot of extenuating circumstances, and texas has made 14 straight NCAA tourneys.
Mack Brown will be gone before Barnes goes.
Quote from: honkytonk on January 22, 2013, 12:58:11 PM
Is Mizzou a basketball school or a football school? I want to say, "neither." Strange fans.
Its both. I have family from Missouri and I think you guys are all underestimating Mizzou a little bit. Its a pretty rabid fanbase with lots of support. Other D1 sports are very limited in the state (SLU for basketball., and that's about it), professional sports are a joke outside of the St. Louis Cardinals, and there is no NBA team. People love the Tigers.
I'm not saying it would necessarily be a step up for Buzz, but it certainly wouldn't be a step down. I do think Texas is ultimately the bigger threat but I could see Buzz just wanting to get into the
Big 12. Scratch that. Forgot Mizzou went to the SEC. Damn realignment...can't keep track of it all.
Quote from: Victor McCormick on January 22, 2013, 02:35:50 PM
Its both. I have family from Missouri and I think you guys are all underestimating Mizzou a little bit. Its a pretty rabid fanbase with lots of support. Other D1 sports are very limited in the state (SLU for basketball., and that's about it), professional sports are a joke outside of the St. Louis Cardinals, and there is no NBA team. People love the Tigers.
I'm not saying it would necessarily be a step up for Buzz, but it certainly wouldn't be a step down. I do think Texas is ultimately the bigger threat but I could see Buzz just wanting to get into the Big 12. Scratch that. Forgot Mizzou went to the SEC. Damn realignment...can't keep track of it all.
I forgot that it is Mizzou that is the school that just recently received massive pledges earmarked for the athletics department. They are in the process of raising $200M for facilities upgrades.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/21/3977966/missouri-receives-pledge-for-big.html
Didn't Buzz already turn Mizzou down before they hired Haith? That was the same offseason (2011) when he also turned down Oklahoma, Texas Tech or A&M or maybe both, as well as Oregon and we got the "don't mess with happy" quote. And yes, I'm fully aware that things have changes since then.
Quote from: jeffreyweee on January 22, 2013, 12:54:21 PM
Would Mizzou really be a step up? I can understand a jump to Texas but why Mizzou?
They're better than SMU, and you saw where that took people.
Little bit early to be starting this crap aint it?
Quote from: Ners on January 22, 2013, 12:02:42 PM
1) Some have been harping at how Syracuse and Louisville are so much head and shoulders above the rest of the league, and that MU isn't close to their level. Interesting Cuse had to rally from behind at home to squeak out a win against UC - albeit with Cashmere Wright contributing a a 2-13 performance from the field.
2) Texas is 0-5 in Big 12 play thus far...yes...that is making me paranoid.
Ville and Cuse are above the rest of the conference.
There's no shame in struggling against Cincy. One of the best defenses in the country. And, to be fair, Cuse & Cincy both traveled from an emotional win on Saturday night with little rest to play a strange Monday matinee. That game was always going to be kooky.
If Texas fires Barnes, they're fucking stupid. What a mess the NCAA laid at their front door this season.
nm.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on January 22, 2013, 03:18:22 PM
Ville and Cuse are above the rest of the conference.
Everyone except Villanova, apparantly.
UL trips up against Villanova. We trip up against UWGB.
Anyone and everyone is beatable, it's about who does it more often and doesn't have as many of the crappy losses on their ledger that rises to the top.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 23, 2013, 12:18:05 AM
UL trips up against Villanova. We trip up against UWGB.
Anyone and everyone is beatable, it's about who does it more often and doesn't have as many of the crappy losses on their ledger that rises to the top.
Correct ... and I hope we don't trip up against Providence this weekend.
And as if Haith didn't have enough trouble, the NCAA is nipping at him.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 23, 2013, 08:38:28 AM
And as if Haith didn't have enough trouble, the NCAA is nipping at him.
Actually, that's really the only trouble he has. He wouldn't be let go otherwise.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 23, 2013, 09:01:43 AM
Actually, that's really the only trouble he has. He wouldn't be let go otherwise.
Doubt he gets let go unless the NCAA suspends him. After the disaster that was its last coaching search, I don't think Mizzou is eager to do it again unless they absolutely have to.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 23, 2013, 09:27:59 AM
Doubt he gets let go unless the NCAA suspends him. After the disaster that was its last coaching search, I don't think Mizzou is eager to do it again unless they absolutely have to.
I believe that Haith, and in turn Mizzou, could be hit with sanctions.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 23, 2013, 09:32:54 AM
I believe that Haith, and in turn Mizzou, could be hit with sanctions.
Why would Mizzou get hit with sanctions for misdeeds Haith committed at another school.
Indiana wasn't punished for what Sampson did at Oklahoma.
I suppose one could argue that Mizzou would be indirectly punished via any penalties imposed on Haith (i.e. reduction of in-home visits, recruit contacts, etc.), but that's not the same thing as saying Mizzou was hit with sanctions.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 23, 2013, 09:27:59 AM
Doubt he gets let go unless the NCAA suspends him. After the disaster that was its last coaching search, I don't think Mizzou is eager to do it again unless they absolutely have to.
He very well could get hit with a show-cause penalty.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 23, 2013, 09:50:10 AM
He very well could get hit with a show-cause penalty.
They could, except I'm not aware of any instance in which the NCAA applied it retroactively to a school that had hired the coach in violation before the violations/penalties were determined. Heck, Mizzou hired Haith before the investigation began.
It would seem patently unfair (and no, the NCAA isn't famous for its fairness) to punish Mizzou under these circumstances. It's one thing to say "you have to accept these penalties if you hire this coach." It's completely different to say "you have to accept these penalties for hiring a coach who we later decided had committed violations elsewhere."