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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: brewcity77 on December 22, 2012, 03:11:30 PM

Poll
Question: Vote for Gardner
Option 1: Davante Gardner votes: 55
Option 2: Junior Cadougan votes: 35
Option 3: Big Sheesh votes: 17
Option 4: Vander Blue votes: 9
Option 5: Ox votes: 10
Title: SOTG: LSU
Post by: brewcity77 on December 22, 2012, 03:11:30 PM
The case...

Davante Gardner: Huge in the clutch, led the team in scoring including going 9/9 from the line, including 6/6 in the final 0:35.

Junior Cadougan: 17 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds. A few too many turnovers, but stepped up late at the line, beyond the arc, and inside.

Big Sheesh: Huge defensive play, including 5 steals. Also made a monster play on the late home-run pass that almost went out of bounds, showing the footwork of a ballerina.

Vander Blue: Excellent in the first half, finished well in traffic. 17/2/2.

Ox: 5/6 from the floor, and also had a great blow-by in point guard fashion. Simply unstoppable down low.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on December 22, 2012, 03:13:26 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 22, 2012, 03:11:30 PM
The case...

Davante Gardner: Huge in the clutch, led the team in scoring including going 9/9 from the line, including 6/6 in the final 0:35.

Junior Cadougan: 17 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds. A few too many turnovers, but stepped up late at the line, beyond the arc, and inside.

Big Sheesh: Huge defensive play, including 5 steals. Also made a monster play on the late home-run pass that almost went out of bounds, showing the footwork of a ballerina.

Vander Blue: Excellent in the first half, finished well in traffic. 17/2/2.

Ox: 5/6 from the floor, and also had a great blow-by in point guard fashion. Simply unstoppable down low.

Crap.  You tricked me.  I saw DGs name first and voted.  I wish to retract that vote and vote for Big Sheeesh.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: GoMarquette32 on December 22, 2012, 03:16:02 PM
Cadougans performance was very similar to the Wisconsin game. In both games he countered the opposing teams runs with taking control of the game. Still wish he had better control of the ball.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: forgetful on December 22, 2012, 03:16:32 PM
Junior.  Without him we aren't in a position for DG to shoot FTs to seal the win.

He carried the team when no one else would step up.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on December 22, 2012, 03:20:25 PM
Jr was very good also.   
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: keefe on December 22, 2012, 03:26:56 PM
Who is Big Sheesh? Is that Gardner?
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on December 22, 2012, 03:33:00 PM
Yes.   And Ox. 
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: keefe on December 22, 2012, 03:37:07 PM
I see. A rigged ballot. Must be Cook County.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: forgetful on December 22, 2012, 03:41:56 PM
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on December 22, 2012, 03:20:25 PM
Jr was very good also.   

Junior out-rebounded Gardner.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 22, 2012, 03:43:22 PM
One of the tougher SOTG decisions that I can recall (despite Brew's clever biases), but I'm going with Junior. Stepped up every time LSU caught us.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 22, 2012, 03:44:22 PM
Davonte's defense on O'bryant was another reason why I voted for him. Only thing missing from his game is passing out of double,triple teams
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: WarriorHal on December 22, 2012, 03:51:45 PM
I was leaning toward Junior. But Davante came up huge in the clutch and won the game for us. W/o his performance with the game on the line, we lose. Gardner was SOTG.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 22, 2012, 03:55:29 PM
Junior. When things starting falling apart it was Junior who came through.  Gardner great for that drive late and hitting FT's but got to give it to Junior.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: GGGG on December 22, 2012, 03:57:15 PM
I understand the Gardner love, but that game is lost without Junior.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: DCWarriors04 on December 22, 2012, 04:01:54 PM
Ox
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: boyonthedock on December 22, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
I was leaning junior, but I have got to tip the hat to gardner.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: AZWarrior on December 22, 2012, 04:50:11 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 22, 2012, 03:37:07 PM
I see. A rigged ballot. Must be Cook County.

Vote early and vote often.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: MU B2002 on December 22, 2012, 04:50:29 PM
Jr.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: AZWarrior on December 22, 2012, 04:55:32 PM
Jr had a good game and we don't win with out him.  However 4 TOs works against him for SOG.

DG gets my vote, for all the above plus 5 steals.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: bilsu on December 22, 2012, 05:18:17 PM
Towards the end of the gme Gardner was going to the line and I said, if he makes the two free throws he was my player of the game. He made the two and 4 more after that.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 22, 2012, 05:56:15 PM
I'll vote for Gardner, but I don't really think anybody played particularly well.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on December 22, 2012, 06:21:13 PM
Devonte was the difference.  He was fun to watch.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: chapman on December 22, 2012, 06:21:31 PM
Quote from: elephantraker on December 22, 2012, 03:44:22 PM
Davonte's defense on O'bryant was another reason why I voted for him.

Yep, his foot movement was outstanding today.  He had my vote before he won the game with perfection at the line.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: The Process on December 22, 2012, 08:37:22 PM
Right now you have DG listed as the SotG of the UW-GB game.

I think many of us here would prefer not to admit that game ever existed.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on December 22, 2012, 09:07:19 PM
SOTG should have been Junior.  Gardner wouldn't have had a victory to seal without Junior.  And I'm sorry, but Gardner's defense against O'Bryant wasn't that good.  Otule is the one that shut him down. 
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: Aughnanure on December 22, 2012, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 22, 2012, 03:57:15 PM
I understand the Gardner love, but that game is lost without Junior.

+1
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: slingkong on December 27, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
Junior lost SOTG with that 6A to 4TO ratio.  That's really poor point-guarding there.
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: bamamarquettefan on December 28, 2012, 09:52:09 AM
Quote from: forgetful on December 22, 2012, 03:41:56 PM
Junior out-rebounded Gardner.

Well of course. Junior is always going to have more rebounds than Gardner and Gardner is always going to have a lot more steals than Cadougan, right?

Really is amazing that Gardner is stealing the ball more than twice as often as Junior (3.5% of opponents trips vs. 1.7%).  They were both great and much better than anyone else on the court, but Gardner was far and away the best player in the game.  Steals are much more valuable than rebounds, and Gardner scores a ton and draws a ton of fouls without doing the things that COST the team points (missed shots, missed free throws and turnovers).
Title: Re: SOTG: LSU
Post by: bilsu on December 28, 2012, 10:33:14 AM
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on December 28, 2012, 09:52:09 AM
Well of course. Junior is always going to have more rebounds than Gardner and Gardner is always going to have a lot more steals than Cadougan, right?

Really is amazing that Gardner is stealing the ball more than twice as often as Junior (3.5% of opponents trips vs. 1.7%).  They were both great and much better than anyone else on the court, but Gardner was far and away the best player in the game.  Steals are much more valuable than rebounds, and Gardner scores a ton and draws a ton of fouls without doing the things that COST the team points (missed shots, missed free throws and turnovers).
Gardner gets a lot of steals, because of his great hands. He also likes to swipe at the opposing team's player that gets the rebound. Neither Gardner of Cadougan get steals based on their speed. They get them because the other team's player made a bad pass or pick the ball up when it is deflected by another MU player. A Blue defection picked up by Gardner is credited to Gardner as a steal.
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