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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on November 30, 2012, 08:22:28 AM
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When he is ready, start him and Blue and bring Lockett off of the bench. Trent and Jake can be the glue guys off of the bench when Mayo and Blue need a rest or get in foul trouble. Trent is just not quick.
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I agree, but I am not convinced Mayo will be back.
I have not been impressed with Lockett at all. He seems to pass up easy passes and shots to force an ill advised drive to the basket. I really hope he improves. Maybe he just needs to feel more comfortable with the team around him. Right now he is a liability, at least as far as his play on the court.
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Or start Lockett, then pull him for Mayo after some time. Mayo played pretty good coming off the bench.
He had a long stretch of games where he couldn't hit a shot, but turned it around at the end of the season.
But agree with premise, Lockett has not shown much yet this season.
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I hope Mayo is as good as you guys think.
I'm not so sure. Better than Lockett? I dunno.
With this said, Todd would be a nice piece to add, and certainly could fill a role on offense.
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What has anyone seen for Mayo that suggests he's goin' to provide whatever this team is missing?
Seriously, Buzz needs to recruit better players at all 5 positions. That'll be harder to do when the conference takes a powder.
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What has anyone seen for Mayo that suggests he's goin' to provide whatever this team is missing?
Seriously, Buzz needs to recruit better players at all 5 positions. That'll be harder to do when the conference takes a powder.
Now THAT'S and overreaction.
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I hope Mayo is as good as you guys think.
I'm not so sure. Better than Lockett? I dunno.
With this said, Todd would be a nice piece to add, and certainly could fill a role on offense.
At least Mayo has an outside shot. I have seen very little of that from Lockett.
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At least Mayo has an outside shot. I have seen very little of that from Lockett.
You're right, but Mayo shot 33% from 3 on the season, and only 25% during conf. play.
He can help, but he's not Novak. Let's be realistic.
BTW, Lockett's career numbers are decent from 3, but he never seems to take many of them.
Maybe MU could play "small" and have Trent play a little of the Jae Crowder role?
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Maybe MU could play "small" and have Trent play a little of the Jae Crowder role?
Trent could never fill the role Jae played. Trent is shorter and no where near as strong as tough as Jae was. No question this could never happen.
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Mayo is a great perimeter defender and play maker. Had he not hit that slump he probably shoots 38%-40% from three while being able to get to the rim and take pressure off of other players. He's not a savior or elite player (not yet at least) but he'd be a good help.
I'm not sure why Lockett isn't as good as advertised but he does look a couple steps slow and trying to force action.
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Even if he did return -- which he won't -- Mayo's no panacea for what ails this team.
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Mayo is a great perimeter defender and play maker. Had he not hit that slump he probably shoots 38%-40% from three while being able to get to the rim and take pressure off of other players. He's not a savior or elite player (not yet at least) but he'd be a good help.
I'm not sure why Lockett isn't as good as advertised but he does look a couple steps slow and trying to force action.
The only problem is that HE DID hit a slump.
He's a good player, no doubt, but let's set our expectations appropriately, right?
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Mayo is a great perimeter defender and play maker. Had he not hit that slump he probably shoots 38%-40% from three while being able to get to the rim and take pressure off of other players. He's not a savior or elite player (not yet at least) but he'd be a good help.
I'm not sure why Lockett isn't as good as advertised but he does look a couple steps slow and trying to force action.
It probably comes from the fact that 90% of the people on this forum never saw him play at ASU.
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Do say how you know so definitively he won't return...
Even if he did return -- which he won't -- Mayo's no panacea for what ails this team.
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The only problem is that HE DID hit a slump.
He's a good player, no doubt, but let's set our expectations appropriately, right?
If Mayo doesn't return he'll become All Big East and a sure fire first round NBA draft pick. A return by Todd will help, but he's not gonna take the team on his back.
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One positive about Todd is that at least he isn't hesitant/afraid to shoot the ball. We have too many guys right now on offense that look like the last thing they want to do is shoot. Don't know if that's due to coaching or if they are just waiting for someone else to step up, but we need guys to start shooting the damn ball if they are open. Way too many pump fakes-1 or 2 dribbles-pass back to the perimeter-repeat for my taste. Shoot the damn ball...these guys are all incredibly skilled or they wouldn't be here...time to show it.
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One positive about Todd is that at least he isn't hesitant/afraid to shoot the ball. We have too many guys right now on offense that look like the last thing they want to do is shoot. Don't know if that's due to coaching or if they are just waiting for someone else to step up, but we need guys to start shooting the damn ball if they are open. Way too many pump fakes-1 or 2 dribbles-pass back to the perimeter-repeat for my taste. Shoot the damn ball...these guys are all incredibly skilled or they wouldn't be here...time to show it.
Almost as if Bo Ryan was coaching last night... Ball must touch every player twice before shooting.
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We need him back badly. I agree that he is not afraid to shoot and create his own shot. Not overly confident that he will be back, but hoping for the best. He showed glimpses last year of being really good and we need really good badly at this moment.
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Mayo is a great perimeter defender and play maker. Had he not hit that slump he probably shoots 38%-40% from three while being able to get to the rim and take pressure off of other players. He's not a savior or elite player (not yet at least) but he'd be a good help.
I'm not sure why Lockett isn't as good as advertised but he does look a couple steps slow and trying to force action.
And had he been 7 feet tall and dominant, he would have been Kevin Durant.
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We need him back badly. I agree that he is not afraid to shoot and create his own shot. Not overly confident that he will be back, but hoping for the best. He showed glimpses last year of being really good and we need really good badly at this moment.
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Fact is that this team needs more talent on the perimeter. Get back to a three guard offense with Cadougan, Mayo, and Blue. Our transition offense sucks this year. I like Trent a lot and I'm happy he's at MU but in my honest opinion he's not a very good fit out there.
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Fact is that this team needs more talent on the perimeter. Get back to a three guard offense with Cadougan, Mayo, and Blue. Our transition offense sucks this year. I like Trent a lot and I'm happy he's at MU but in my honest opinion he's not a very good fit out there.
The thing with Lockett is that he is an undersized forward. He simply has not shown guard skills to-date. Maybe its just a matter of fitting in...we shall see.
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Fact is that this team needs more talent on the perimeter. Get back to a three guard offense with Cadougan, Mayo, and Blue. Our transition offense sucks this year. I like Trent a lot and I'm happy he's at MU but in my honest opinion he's not a very good fit out there.
Our transaction offense sucks, because our defense cannot create turnovers. What is wrong with this team is on the defensive side. Last year, because we had a chance to steal the ball we had a chance to comeback. This team has not shown me that they can do this.
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I agree that our defense is limiting our ability to score quick points. We are not getting the transition buckets and that is hurting a lot. If our pressure does not improve we will continue to struggle scoring points. I would play the most athletic guys as much as possible and roll the dice.
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I hope Mayo is as good as you guys think.
I'm not so sure. Better than Lockett? I dunno.
Better than Lockett? Yes.
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Better than Lockett? Yes.
Seriously? Lockett hasn't been great, but has a pretty impressive body of work... so I assume he will end up with similar performance.
Mayo showed some flashes as a frosh., but was very inconsistent.
If Mayo comes back, I guess we are going to find out who is better.
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If Mayo comes back, I guess we are going to find out who is better.
Better or not the most important thing is that he come back
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And had he been 7 feet tall and dominant, he would have been Kevin Durant.
and if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle.
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Better than Lockett? Yes.
Undoubtedly he is...Lockett has been below what I expected. Now that might change once he gets more acclimated.
But nothing really stands out about his game. I guess it is level-headed and balanced and he does not really try to anything he can't do.
And he can't do much more then he can....if that makes any sense?
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he does not really try to anything he can't do.
Ever see him drive the lane in traffic? Not sure what he is trying to do save for turning the ball over.
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Mayo is hands down better than Lockett. He averaged 8ppg as a freshman last year. Usually the big jump is from freshman to sophomore year.
Players were saying Mayo could be the best on the team this summer. He is so smooth in the way he plays. Him and Vander play with that killer instinct. Guys on the team now hesitate to shoot the ball and this causes defenders to collapse on them. It is obvious that Lockett is having a hard time transitioning to the tough style of the Big East and Marquette's fast paced play.
Our transition offense is being affected by our lack of fast break. I think a line up of Vander, Mayo, Cadougan, Anderson, and Otule with Jamil and Gardner coming off the bench will generate a lot of turnovers on the defensive end. Jamil looks a hell of a lot more comfortable coming off the bench and Anderson is a high energy guy. With us having a hard time starting games off hot I believe Anderson would fit the starting role better at this point.
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Mayo is hands down better than Lockett. Players were saying Mayo could be the best on the team this summer. Him and Vander play with that killer instinct.
Truth
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In the "fwiw" category, someone on the other site said he ran into Mayo coming out of the Al last night and Mayo confirmed he'll be back the 15th.
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Best news all season. Mayo could still be the best player on the team by the end of the year even though he's so far behind with the team.
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In the "fwiw" category, someone on the other site said he ran into Mayo coming out of the Al last night and Mayo confirmed he'll be back the 15th.
This is great goddam news. We need him back.
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Mayo is hands down better than Lockett. He averaged 8ppg as a freshman last year. Usually the big jump is from freshman to sophomore year.
Not saying your wrong, but I don't think this conventional wisdom applies to Mayo at his age.
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IWB is saying nothing is positive and we won't know for a couple of weeks aboiut Todd. I suppose the grades would have to come in first right?
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IWB is saying nothing is positive and we won't know for a couple of weeks aboiut Todd. I suppose the grades would have to come in first right?
I had heard it was not an issue of grades, but the fact that he wasnt considered a full time student based on the amount of classes he was taking...next semester he will meet the requirements for number of classes so thats why he'll be back.
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IWB is saying nothing is positive and we won't know for a couple of weeks aboiut Todd. I suppose the grades would have to come in first right?
If true about Todd mentioning it to someone in person I have to think that is positive unless he wasn't sure at that point himself.
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I had heard it was not an issue of grades, but the fact that he wasnt considered a full time student based on the amount of classes he was taking...next semester he will meet the requirements for number of classes so thats why he'll be back.
It's not that simple. He has to do well in the limited classes in which he is currently enrolled to even have the possibility of being back. Todd mentioning that he will be back is just his confidence talking, because even he doesn't really know.
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I want the Mayo to come back who is as good as so many of our fans think, not the Mayo who fell off the face of the earth almost the entire Big East season.
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It's not that simple. He has to do well in the limited classes in which he is currently enrolled to even have the possibility of being back. Todd mentioning that he will be back is just his confidence talking, because even he doesn't really know.
I would think he would have an idea what his chances are of getting the grades he needs. If I remember from my days, most freshman/sophomore classes didn't have a true final but more multiple tests through the semester. If he got c's/b's on all his other work, I would think he has a right to be confident. Not saying this is the case, but I would think he has some idea what his grades are like and what he needs.
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Failure is only the opportunity to begin again only this time more wisely.
#Dec15
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I want Mayo back as much as anyone, but let's not base our opinion on Lockett on his first 7 games for MU. It seems like there is a contingent here that thinks Mayo comes back and Lockett will be relegated deep on the bench.
He has started slow but that isn't the whole season. I think when it is all said and done, Lockett will still average 10+ ppg and nearly 5rpg. That is pretty darn good.
Everyone was concerned about his turnovers on that ASU team, but his turnover rate is better than all the ball handlers, save Thomas.
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let's not base our opinion on Lockett on his first 7 games for MU.
I agree but the first 7 have not been impressive.
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